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A look at the dark side of what drives feminism. Not a pretty sight.

*********Think feminism is about giving choice back to women? Think again!*******

No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children… Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.
Simone de Beauvoir

********************Real man-haters!*******************

"Under patriarchy, no woman is safe to live her life, or to love or to mother children. Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's daughter is a victim, past, present and future.
Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman,"
Andrea Dworkin, Liberty, p. 58.

"Patriarchy requires violence or the subliminal threat of violence in order to maintain itself... The most dangerous situation for a woman is not an unknown man in the street, or even the enemy in wartime, but a husband or lover in the isolation of their home,"
Gloria Steinem in Revolution from Within: A Book of Self-Esteem,
pp. 259-61.

"The fact is that the process of killing - both rape and battery are steps in that process- is the prime sexual act for men in reality and/or in imagination,"
Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 22.

"Man's discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax,"
Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape

"Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks,"
Andrea Dworkin in the Philadelphia Inquirer, May 21, 1995.

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometime gain from the experience,"
Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3,1991, p. 52.

"In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent,"
Catherine MacKinnon in
Professing Feminism, p. 129.

"Compare victims' reports of rape with women's reports of sex. They look a lot alike....[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is
that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it, "
Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, "Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation," Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991.

*****Here’s some real ‘winners’ from the current editor of MS magazine**************

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to
class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them."
Robin Morgan,

Sexism is NOT the fault of women--kill your fathers, not
your mothers."
Robin Morgan

******************Patriarchy strikes again!!****************

"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system,
eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys

********Radical Feminists hate traditional familes*********

From Female Liberation by Roxanne Dunbar.
"How will the family unit be destroyed? ... the demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare."

From article, "Is Marriage the Answer?" by Barbara Findlen, Ms magazine, May-June, 1995:
"Feminists have long criticized marriage as a place of oppression, danger, and drudgery for women."

From Sisterhood Is Powerful, Morgan (ed), 1970 p. 537.
"The Feminists -v- The Marriage License Bureau of the State of New York...All the discriminatory practices against women are patterned and rationalized by this slavery-like
practice. We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage."

Functions of the Family, Linda Gordon, WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969.
"The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together. ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process. ... "Families have supported oppression by separating people into small, isolated units, unable to join together to fight for common interests. ...

**********************Hmmmmmm….***************************

Some of us are becoming the men we wanted to marry.
-Gloria Steinem

******What about ‘Christian Feminists? Many of them have been infected by pagan, anti-biblical philosophies. Here are a couple of quotes from a women’s conference attended my representatives from many of the major Christian denominations.***********

"The Church has always been blessed by gays and lesbians, witches and shamans"
Judy Westerdorf, a lesbian Methodist minister at the 1993 Re-Imagining Conference

"Our Maker Sophia, we are women in your image, with the hot blood of our wombs we give form to new life; with nectar between our thighs we invite a lover; with our warm body fluids we remind the world of its pleasure and sensations"
A chant from the Re-Imagining 1993 conference

*****Here’s a twist—a secular feminist decries the negative effects of a self-centered lifestyle in the first quote. The second quote is from ‘Christian feminists’ , promoting a self-centered lifestyle*******

"We can predict a higher divorce rate when the criteria of
success in marriage change from family, integrity, security, and contentment to happiness in which people are to grasp
opportunity to feel vital; when compromise is judged to be a
sign of inadequacy; when "doing your own thing" and "getting yours" are legitimized. . . . [W]hen divorce is easy to obtain . . . when the negative costs of commitment are emphasized... when selfishness is idealized as autonomy...
and moral responsibility is to the self rather than to the
relationship, divorce increases. ...Commitment involves not only mutual feeling but also interdependent obligation."
Feminist Judith Bardwick

"In an equal-partner marriage, both spouses are equally committed to their respective careers... Furthermore, there is role interchangeability with respect to the breadwinner and domestic roles... a woman should have autonomy and should find her fulfillment in her own achievement endeavors rather than through second-hand enjoyment of her husbands' success. Under these egalitarian sex-role norms, a woman should be free to pursue her own interests without subordination to those of her husband and children."
‘Christian feminist’ Letha Scanzoni

**********’Christian Feminism’ and homosexuality******

" Could it be that the continued affirmation of the primacy of heterosexual marriage is possibly also the affirmation of the necessity for the sexes to remain in a hierarchically structured relationship? Is the threat to the "sanctity of marriage" really a threat to hierarchy? Is that what makes same-sex relations so threatening, so frightening?"
Karen J. Torjesen "Sexuality, Hierarchy and Evangelicalism," TSF Bulletin, vol. 10, no. 4 (March-April 1987), pp. 26-27.

****Why Feminists re-interpret or reject the Bible****

"Feminist theology must create a new textual base, a new canon.... Feminist theology cannot be done from the existing base of the Christian Bible"
Rosemary Radford Ruether; Womanguides: Readings Toward a Feminist Theology, p. ix

"A feminist who loves the Bible produces, in the thinking of many, an oxymoron.... After all, if no man can serve two masters, no woman can serve two authorities, a master called scripture and a mistress called feminism"
Phyllis Trible; God and the Rhetoric of Sexuality

******In other words, lawlessness*******************

"Whether it is the choice to be out as a lesbian or bisexual, or to say "no comment"; to be single and celibate or to have multiple partners; to devise alternative families or to affirm our right to marry and have children in conventional family structures, I see the decision to make our own choices as empowering and necessary, even when we feel we might be making mistakes, wrong turns, or be heading into uncharted territory altogether. The essence of feminism for me is the freedom to live our lives as we please, and to reinvent the world as we do so."
Patricia Ireland, in What Women Want

***Even a school crossing sign can be a tool of evil male oppressors****

Sarah McGarth, in a letter to the editor of the Bergen County Record, recently pointed out the heretofore unnoticed subliminal sexist message in school crossing signs. Her letter, reported in the National Review, August 11, 1997, is reproduced here. We are not making this up.
"I’d like to call your attention to the subliminally sexist message of one of our most common roadside signs: the ‘school-crossing’ sign that appears in almost every neighborhood in the country. This sign features a picture of two children, a boy and a girl, crossing the street together. The boy is much taller than the girl, portraying the part of the older brother, while the girl’s role is that of the dependent younger sister. The boy seems to have his hand gripping the little girl’s elbow, as if he were guiding her. All these details suggest that the boy is dominant, and the girl is weaker. I suggest that half of our school-crossing signs be changed to show a taller girl and a smaller boy. A small change like this could give American children a much better sense of the full range of possible relationships between males and females."

The Dark Side of Feminism A look at the dark side of what drives feminism. Not a pretty sight. *******Think feminism is about giving choice back to women? Think again!*** No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children… Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. Simone de Beauvoir ****************Real man-haters!*************** "Under patriarchy, no woman is safe to live her life, or to love or to mother children. Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's daughter is a victim, past, present and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman," Andrea Dworkin, Liberty, p. 58. "Patriarchy requires violence or the subliminal threat of violence in order to maintain itself... The most dangerous situation for a woman is not an unknown man in the street, or even the enemy in wartime, but a husband or lover in the isolation of their home," Gloria Steinem in Revolution from Within: A Book of Self-Esteem, pp. 259-61. "The fact is that the process of killing - both rape and battery are steps in that process- is the prime sexual act for men in reality and/or in imagination," Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 22. "Man's discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax," Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape "Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks," Andrea Dworkin in the Philadelphia Inquirer, May 21, 1995. "Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometime gain from the experience," Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3,1991, p. 52. "In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent," Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism, p. 129. "Compare victims' reports of rape with women's reports of sex. They look a lot alike....[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it, " Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, "Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation," Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991. *Here’s some real ‘winners’ from the current editor of MS magazine********** "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Robin Morgan, Sexism is NOT the fault of women--kill your fathers, not your mothers." Robin Morgan **************Patriarchy strikes again!!************ "When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys ****Radical Feminists hate traditional familes***** From Female Liberation by Roxanne Dunbar. "How will the family unit be destroyed? ... the demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare." From article, "Is Marriage the Answer?" by Barbara Findlen, Ms magazine, May-June, 1995: "Feminists have long criticized marriage as a place of oppression, danger, and drudgery for women." From Sisterhood Is Powerful, Morgan (ed), 1970 p. 537. "The Feminists -v- The Marriage License Bureau of the State of New York...All the discriminatory practices against women are patterned and rationalized by this slavery-like practice. We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." Functions of the Family, Linda Gordon, WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969. "The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together. ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process. ... "Families have supported oppression by separating people into small, isolated units, unable to join together to fight for common interests. ... ******************Hmmmmmm….*********************** Some of us are becoming the men we wanted to marry. -Gloria Steinem **What about ‘Christian Feminists? Many of them have been infected by pagan, anti-biblical philosophies. Here are a couple of quotes from a women’s conference attended my representatives from many of the major Christian denominations.******* "The Church has always been blessed by gays and lesbians, witches and shamans" Judy Westerdorf, a lesbian Methodist minister at the 1993 Re-Imagining Conference "Our Maker Sophia, we are women in your image, with the hot blood of our wombs we give form to new life; with nectar between our thighs we invite a lover; with our warm body fluids we remind the world of its pleasure and sensations" A chant from the Re-Imagining 1993 conference *Here’s a twist—a secular feminist decries the negative effects of a self-centered lifestyle in the first quote. The second quote is from ‘Christian feminists’ , promoting a self-centered lifestyle*** "We can predict a higher divorce rate when the criteria of success in marriage change from family, integrity, security, and contentment to happiness in which people are to grasp opportunity to feel vital; when compromise is judged to be a sign of inadequacy; when "doing your own thing" and "getting yours" are legitimized. . . . [W]hen divorce is easy to obtain . . . when the negative costs of commitment are emphasized... when selfishness is idealized as autonomy... and moral responsibility is to the self rather than to the relationship, divorce increases. ...Commitment involves not only mutual feeling but also interdependent obligation." Feminist Judith Bardwick "In an equal-partner marriage, both spouses are equally committed to their respective careers... Furthermore, there is role interchangeability with respect to the breadwinner and domestic roles... a woman should have autonomy and should find her fulfillment in her own achievement endeavors rather than through second-hand enjoyment of her husbands' success. Under these egalitarian sex-role norms, a woman should be free to pursue her own interests without subordination to those of her husband and children." ‘Christian feminist’ Letha Scanzoni ******’Christian Feminism’ and homosexuality** " Could it be that the continued affirmation of the primacy of heterosexual marriage is possibly also the affirmation of the necessity for the sexes to remain in a hierarchically structured relationship? Is the threat to the "sanctity of marriage" really a threat to hierarchy? Is that what makes same-sex relations so threatening, so frightening?" Karen J. Torjesen "Sexuality, Hierarchy and Evangelicalism," TSF Bulletin, vol. 10, no. 4 (March-April 1987), pp. 26-27. Why Feminists re-interpret or reject the Bible "Feminist theology must create a new textual base, a new canon.... Feminist theology cannot be done from the existing base of the Christian Bible" Rosemary Radford Ruether; Womanguides: Readings Toward a Feminist Theology, p. ix "A feminist who loves the Bible produces, in the thinking of many, an oxymoron.... After all, if no man can serve two masters, no woman can serve two authorities, a master called scripture and a mistress called feminism" Phyllis Trible; God and the Rhetoric of Sexuality **In other words, lawlessness*************** "Whether it is the choice to be out as a lesbian or bisexual, or to say "no comment"; to be single and celibate or to have multiple partners; to devise alternative families or to affirm our right to marry and have children in conventional family structures, I see the decision to make our own choices as empowering and necessary, even when we feel we might be making mistakes, wrong turns, or be heading into uncharted territory altogether. The essence of feminism for me is the freedom to live our lives as we please, and to reinvent the world as we do so." Patricia Ireland, in What Women Want Even a school crossing sign can be a tool of evil male oppressors*** Sarah McGarth, in a letter to the editor of the Bergen County Record, recently pointed out the heretofore unnoticed subliminal sexist message in school crossing signs. Her letter, reported in the National Review, August 11, 1997, is reproduced here. We are not making this up. "I’d like to call your attention to the subliminally sexist message of one of our most common roadside signs: the ‘school-crossing’ sign that appears in almost every neighborhood in the country. This sign features a picture of two children, a boy and a girl, crossing the street together. The boy is much taller than the girl, portraying the part of the older brother, while the girl’s role is that of the dependent younger sister. The boy seems to have his hand gripping the little girl’s elbow, as if he were guiding her. All these details suggest that the boy is dominant, and the girl is weaker. I suggest that half of our school-crossing signs be changed to show a taller girl and a smaller boy. A small change like this could give American children a much better sense of the full range of possible relationships between males and females."