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> From: undisclosed
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 6:01 PM
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> Subject:      Re: A CALL TO ARMS.....
>
> Okay im going to weigh in on this. Ive been thinking
> about it for a few
> weeks, and im in Mexico, doing my other job, but
> this Woodstock business has
> weighed heavy on me.
>  Heres what i think;
>  I think theres been a seachange lately in "rock".
> It started for me at the
> KROQ Acoustic christmas. Who the hell were these
> sort of Def Lepard chicks in
> the front row in white pants with the nineties
> version of feathered hair ( it
> still IS feathered hair) absouloutly bored and
> frightened of us? I havent
> seen that wierd face on a girl in the front row
> since 1990, its that, "my
> boyfriend told me your a freak" face or the "You
> dont have a cock and are
> therefore useless to me" face- wich is essentially
> true if youre these girls-
> i cant marry them and im certainly not going to buy
> them any more white pants
> ......some Prada maybe......I couldnt figure it and
> it REALLY caught me by
> surprise.....they were absouloutly old school 100%
> groupie girls and they
> wanted to be.
> wierd.
> obsolete , i thought.
> What the hell i thought.
> why  would anyone want to have that energy in 1999
> and WHO the hell is around
> to service them? (NIN not being on tour -we all know
> how i felt about the
> exploited groupies on the NIN tour. The girl in Ann
> Arbor who was underaged
> and serviced the band bus then switched at a truck
> stop to the crew bus, then
> was left in the Mezzanine of the Ritz Carlton,in
> Chicago, where she was
> abandoned and had to hitchike home an d was raped.
> She was 16 years old. )
> and THEN it hit me.
>  .Korn.
> Somehow we were playing UNDER Korn, i had been too
> lazy to whine about the
> billing, and kevin from KROQ is so suppportive of us
> i just do what he wants
> ,within reason.
>  yeah ,well, stupid me, cos now im stuck with a
> front row full of these girls
> who really really really dont want to play guitar or
> drums and really  DO
> spend alot of time on thier hair.
>  BUT, im trying to do the math on this.
>  Korn is "alternative"- the singer is a sweet
> sexually conflicted guy with an
> amazing voice, i dont really think he loathes women.
> i think he barely
> notices them.
>  The rest of the band run the average boyband gamut
> from arrogant to gangster
> to sweetheart ( no math boys for me to even really
> talk to but theyre nice
> enough fellows)
> So I play a lame show and  go off on them some, and
> i go backstage super
> super confused.
>  KROQ my people, my community where a womans brain
> is her most important
> asset sort of- i know its loose, but compared to say
> groupie dinosaur bands
> like NIN or GnR, the KROQ backstage is normally a
> brain trust, Metallica dont
> do the groupie thing- even Manson  and his kids seem
> pretty sensitive about
> the way women are on tour- theres lots of girls but
> they tell me they are
> treated well and basically one girl told me dressing
> up to fuck a band
> member(in Manson) is sort of her Carnival comes to
> town sex fantasy- Ill be
> Mary Magdalene  and ill sleep with the Antichrist.
> Sounds fair to me. As long
> as she brings her cab fare.
>  anyway, im walking around and these chicks are
> everywhere!! Alot of old ones
> alot of new ones, alot of strippers, so I conclude
> that Korn- who arent
> actually SEXY people per se; for whatever Mysterious
> reason tap into  this
> repressed groupie collective.  these chicks havent
> been out in a while theyre
> a bit of an obsolete breed and maybe they finally-
> after allthese years-
> found a band to put on the dog for.I dont get it ,
> i dont love it, but i
> accept it.
>  Ah But theres more, the plot thickens.
> So the next thing were in Australia, were not
> playing Under Korn were
> headlining the Big Day Out and they are third, and i
> dont see these girls in
> the front row again- i see groovy girls with bunny
> ears and  i see goth girls
> with bad attitudes and i see the usual jock boys who
> muscle to the front- its
> a scary scary place the front , and the laws of
> nature dictate that the
> strongest people with the most desire to show off
> are going to get to the
> front so they are always there- squishing and
> pinching boobies, thats sort of
> the nature of the pit. You get your boobies pinched
> and you slap him. the end.
>  But creeping around the edges are the Korn PEOPLE,
> the Korn MANAGEMENT team,
> and i do mean "creeping" cos theyre creeps. Big
> ones. i dont mean  just
> Mysoginist- but oily. These are also the Limp Bizkit
> people, just so youll
> see where this is going.
>  At one point i have the singer and bass player from
> Korn in my dressing room
> and, knowing these are working class guys from
> Bakersfield who are probably
> getting really screwed regarding thier publishing
> and thier royalty rates, i
> want to extend my knowledge- wich is alot - about
> such matters.
>  One of thier people is present.
>  I ask them did they sell thier publishing? Yes they
> say. for how much iask?
> they name an  astonishingly low sum. i look at the
> "person" what the fuck is
> THAT? i ask. Your partner went to Harvard for THAT.?
>  after a few more
> questions i realise that Korns situation with its
> management is beyond
> pathetic. Thier people own them in ways unimaginable
> in 1999- 1952 yes, but
> not now. They are essentially;slaves. slaves with
> Rolexes and groupies
> purchased for them by thier "people" So these guys
> have obviously been
> suckered massively- they dont know what the hell is
> going on, and their
> "person" is giving me a headache and a hairy eyeball
> for my enlightenment
> session.
> It worries me,korn getting ripped off and these
> groupies are somehow part of
> it- i just know it but ihavent figured it all out
> yet.
> Is this some Suge Knight fallout? i won der, pussy
> instead of cash? How is it
> here in rock? i thought it was a rap problem. oh
> yeah but raps crossed over,
> i guess korn have a sort of rap vibe to them, and
> Limp Bizket....are they
> doing business like rappers? getting screwed like
> rappers- who are famously
> ripped off and left penniless constantly ( read
> "have Gun Will Travel")
>  So  on the eve of the second Big Day Out i go back
> to the hotel and there
> they are! The groupies are back.  or hookers. or
> strippers. theyre here and
> they ALL look miserable. I remember this routine
> from the heavy metal
> years....theyre waiting to get PICKED!!!! I cannot
> fucking believe my eyes ,
> as i say hello, look at the floor and get my key. So
> embarassed. i see the
> "People" wrangling chicks for the band and
> themselves.  I see some of the
> girls looking at me like theyre embarassed to be
> caught doing this sort of
> thing. I dont look back at them im ashamed.YUCK.
> I go to sleep disturbed as hell. But what can i do.?
> Im gonna sound like a
> priss if i say anything. When  i said something in
> the NIN tour i got called
> all sorts of names, and as punishment ended up
> sleeping with that singer.
> wich, even though it was over in a second, has just
> haunted me- a real season
> in mysoginist hell.
>  I havent seen any mis behaviour, just 25 miserable
> women in the lobby
> waiting to give head, theyll say "boys will be boys"
> theyll say  im being a
> boor so i shut my mouth.
> The n ext afternoon i go downstairs  , i walk
> throught he lobby and i hear my
> name - wailed- in wretched voice- i whip around,
> here in fro
> nt of me is a bedraggled girl-18 maybe younger.  One
> of Korns security
> "people" is dragging her.
> "Courtney "she screams"they raped me Courtney"
>  Okay NOW im pissed. Now im fucking mad,okay? NOW im
> pissed. But the truth is
> im pissed at HER.
>  i pause at that.
> Yeah i am ,im pissed at her. Cos I know everythings
> shes gonna say before she
> says it. And saint Courtney the Avenging Angel is
> going to do what? Kick
> thier asses?Make a scene? What the hell do these
> guys know? They arent smart
> like Trent is ( wich is what makes his Chick thing
> all the more evil)They
> were lucky to get laid Ever once before they were
> famous-come On! Theyre from
> BAKERSFIELD!
>  So i turn around all full of piss and vinegar and i
> look at this poor kid
> and i just , i dont know i just melt,  The Korn
> "person" is saying "Just
> ignore her Miss Love she was stalking a band member"
>  yeah right,
> is that why her clothes are torn? is that why shes
> got scratches on her? is
> that why she has a laminate dangling down? Is that
> why her eyeliner and
> lipstick applied so carefully last night- maybe she
> thought, Im going to have
> sex with a travellin g musician its going to be so
> glamourous,maybe hell fall
> in l,ove with me, maybe hell take me back to LA with
> him, maybe ill be his
> girlfriend-is smeared all over her face? Did she get
> to have an Orgasm? Hell
> no from the looks of it.
>  I grab her from him. he grabs her back Bozo KNOWS
> hes in some shit- plus my
> security person is bigger than him.
>  "They raped me" shes sobbing
>  "what did you think they would do?" i ask
> her-sternly i feel like a fucking
> parole officer- its so wierd.
> she doesnt answer. she gulps, she sobbing. and then
> she names the person. and
> LO AND BEHOLD, its one of the Korn "People" - You
> knew this was coming right?
> And all of the sudden she turns into a negotiation,
> shes no longer a person.
>  " i swear she crazy Miss Love ," (he wants me to
> drop it desperatly)For
> whatever  reason i start to believe this guy- itd be
> alot easier-but he
> continues"whod touch her? Shes a dog"
>  OKAY NOW IM REALLY FUCKING PISSED>
>  I  get the girl a bunch of money to go home,i make
> her swear shes going to
> make a police report , and i leave when i get to the
> venue i storm by the
> Korn "People" what can i do? Tell me what the hell
> im supposed to do? i dont
> know if anyone raped her, i wasnt there, you tell me
> what i was supposed to
> do? Ive got alot of power, i know i do, but SHE  was
> in the lobby, she got
> "picked"- SHE put herself there. Or maybe the
> "people" thought she was a
> tasty young thing and they put her there. either way
> she attended the
> ceremony.
>  Well, variations of this same story happened for
> the whole 2 weeks- girls
> storming at me in lobbies ,in parking lots,in the
> STORE, with a
> KornKomplaint, I started to shrug, i told them to
> get guitars, what the
> fuck?OfficerKortney KornKOmplaint "they exploited
> me. those guys in Korn used
> me" It was incessent and id listen and be polite,
> and feel empathy, but
> really i was pissed at these girls for getting
> suckered. And they always had
> really nice hair. Long . (An expression of the
> acquirers taste?)
> And whats intersting is it DID NOT happen on the
> -aborted- Manson tour. Youd
> think? Right? but they seem to treat women pretty
> well as ive said,maybe they
> like thier Moms , or maybe most importantly, thier
> "People" are so occupied
> with Trent, that they dont pimp at them, i say "at"
> instead of "For" because
> i think this pimping business is control within the
> Korn/LimpBizket nexus.  I
> dont think these guys "demand" picking sessions, i
> think they think that its
> a normal "rock" activity,i think these guys get
> these kids so much nookie
> they dont know what to do with it, The singer of
> korn described big decadent
> scenes that sounded cool and funny but only  if
> everyo ne is really
> participating, and I think it sends out a 'vibe' and
> i think that vibe is
> foul and  it stinks. I thin k audiences pick up on
> that vibe or image- that
> its Ok to disabuse and degrade us. I think the
> head"Person" of the
> Korn/LimpBizket ( and amazingly the Backstreet boys
> i dont even want to THINK
> about that) needs to cool his shit out or im going
> to start naming him, out
> loud and everywhere, and whats he goin g to do? Not
> ask us on the Family
> Values tour? Make it wierd at Interscope? better is
> he going to say im a
> crazy stalker groupie? uhhuh.   ok baby.Ive stayed
> awake at night thinking
> about these poor stupid girls, and praying that
> these guys will get some
> terrifying girlfriends soon so this shit stops.  and
> after Woodstock i just
> feel the SOURCE of this rape environment is buried
> somehow in this story-
> because this did not happen before now, since 91.
> Maybe im crazy ,maybe somehow, all of the sudden the
> boys got really fed up
> with all the singer songwriter girls and all the
> gentle emo alternative
> bands, i would if i was raging with testorone ( I
> actually am raging with
> testoterone: my  gynocologist told me) damm straight
> id seek out a  boy band
> where No Girls Allowed was the deal, Ive dealt with
> raging testoterone
> audiences and I can RELATE to them,  I think the
> problem here is that us
> girls still think were "allowed" at a Limp Bizket
> show like we were at
> Nirvana, so its a card trick, Woodstock. And i
> turned it down .The truth is i
> had a bad bad feeling about it, and if idve been
> there i wouldve taken off my
>  shirt, damm straight, and that probably would have
> made things worse anyway-
> the intention would have been to fuck with thier
> heads but theydve just
> thought i was stripping. So what to do? who knows.
> Cool the "person" out
> specifically. i think. and dont go mosh at these
> guys shows. and maybe  we
> will go on  the Family values tour just to get some
> estrogen in there as
> they all seem to TRY and behave when im around. I
> really dont know.  you tell
> me.
>