What common grounds did the people who formed FFF have at that time?
What holds you
Andi: We formed FFF 'cause we were friends and wanted to make music. As we are still friends
and we still wanna make music, we still play together. We've some problems nowadays because
Dolly lives in Canada most of the time and we have only 3 or 4 months a year to make concerts but
that's no reason not to play when we have the possibility.
Dominik: For us it was and is more important to have the same views on music, create our own
style and have the same feeling than being popular. For us the band is much more than 4 people
coming together twice a week to play because each person plays an Instrument.
What kind of studies/work/... do you people do? Is having a fulltime job (for a 'boss') to be
condemned? Can you think of any usefull/interesting/satisfying /.. Jobs?
Dominik: Nobody works. Andy, Vladi and me study various subjects. Dolly has no Job, she doesn't
exactly know what she wants to do. Work is only satisfying if you like it very much. Being a
musician would be a good Job but I don't want to play boring shit In order to be able to make a
living of music.
Andy: Vladi studies electro-technics, Dominik learns about social work and I study political
Vladi you come from Chile..
Do you follow the sociopolitical Situation in your (ex-) country? Can you
tell us a bit about it?
Vladi: Now that Pinochet isn't president anymore, the whole political situation is "a little bit more
democratic". The people can vote but the ex-dictator is still the man In power. He's still in charge of
the army and the police and lt he wants to, he can stop everything the parliament decides. No-one
can be charged for human rights-violations commited during the dictators.... I don't exactly know
what the situation is like right now because I haven't been in Chile for a long time and here in
Germany Information about the country is rare nowadays.
Was putting out your album on your own label a necessity or an ideological
Dominik: We wanted to put out a record we can identify with and...
Andi: ... There was nobody also who wanted to release the master-tape we already recorded on
our conditions. So we released it on our own label.
Dominik: I already had bad experiences with so called Independent labels with my former band. I
think it is better to sell less records and get back maybe only the money you've put into it, than to
see others (people you can't identify with) making big cash of you. We are very satisfied with our
album, we wanted our first to be really good and that's why we waited 6 years before putting out an
LP. (Brob: the album is excellent!)
What do you think of the evolution of the german HC-scene? What can we do about the fact that
people only wanna see big (wellknown) bands - preferably from the US - and arenīt interested In
decent european bands? Why is it (hat most people who are organizing tours run everything so
commercial/unaltemative? What's the Influence of mags such as ZAP or TRUST?
Andi: The general evolutlon is that the scene is going in a "professional" direction. There are more and
more clubs where HC-bands can play and where you have to pay higher prices than in squats or
youth centers. All the things you mention work together: a tot of people are Interested in US-bands
and these are interested in commercial organization and these want to make money. If you read ZAP,
you'll find Interviews with the "HC-gods from New York" or things Iike that and that has a big influence
on a tot of people. I don't know what to do to make people change their minds... Probably just show
that you neednït be a US "HC-god" to make good music but I sometimes think that the little mark
"from the USA" is more important than playing good music. That's sad but there is no way to change
people if they think that's OK and if there is the request for these bands and people accept the prices,
why shouldn't people organize things in a "commercial" way? (Brob: Because they are slowly killing the
alternative scene that way!) It is an easy way to earn their living. Luckily there are still people who do it
differently you or the people from the Mauritiuswall In Cologne, people from a lot of youth clubs, Luca
in Torino who organized 5 gigs in Italy for us and a lot of others. I'd like to thank them all here. We - as
a band - try to organize everything on our own, without a manager or so - even it is hard work and you
need lots of friends everywhere to help you. Maybe that is a way to stop this
Dominik: ZAP and TRUST have a very big influence. 9 years from now, the scene was totally
different: german bands were very popular and only a few US-bands came to Germany. There were
only a handfull of german bands that had english lyrics and people wanted to hear german. Now its
totally the opposite: the more american a german band appears to be, the better their chance is to get
good critics in ZAP or TRUST and as everyone knows about their big influence, bands copy every
new "trend" from the States that is written about in these magazines. German punk lost its own
identity. Punk was about individuality against trends, about finding your own identity, about solidarity
and against rock-idols and commercial attitudes. The whole scene is going the opposite way. I've
talked to many people about this problem and it is the same all over Europe. The people care less for
their own scene and it gets harder and harder to get concerts for a local unknown band. Luckily we
know a lot of people alter the 8 years we play together but it is really a problem because every
american band comes to Europa since they have much better conditions, audiences and more money
here compared to the US. Many of the US bands haven't even toured In the States yet, no-one knows
them there but they come here and they are the stars from the US (that's what they say themselves).
We're not against the bands but against the guys that make cash out of the stupidity of the people that
believe "US-HC = good" and "lokal bands = shit"; an attitude that is spread by not only the mentioned
Have you played in the ex-DDR? Howīs the scene
Andi: As we only played in Erfurt and Jena, we only know about the scenes there. We (and the people
there too, I suppose) had a lot of tun at these shows but people generally listened to old german
punkrock like SLIME, DAILY TERROR or CANAL TERROR. Sometimes it seemed that they hadn't
heard the music we play before.
Dominik: ... Or HC in general. Also the bands we played with from the area played this typical german
81 punk-sound and the people also dress this way. There is supposed to be much trouble with fascist
skins, especially in Jena. Most of the people that come to punk shows only go in groups and are
armed with gas, knives.... We were also told not to leave the car in front of the place because
sometimes the skins would put cars on fire or cut the tires.
Andi: This was only in Weimar...
Dominik: We had no
Andl: Organizing the gigs was a problem
because it is very hard to phone people there. Most of them
don't have a telephone. When we arrived there (Erfurt), nobody knew that we were supposed to play.
They organized a concert for the following day and it was really good.
The most used language in the international HC-scene is english. You, who sing in german, do you
see that as cultural imperialism? Do you think that people who talk english and donīt understand
german, should make an effort and try to understand you in your own
Andi: The growing use of english words in other languages (not especially in the HC-scene; think of
computers e.g.) is cultural imperialism. On the other hand different languages are a barriers between
people and using one language that alot of people understand, makes it easier to be understood by
everybody. There can be a problem e.g. in lyrics written in english by people who's motherlanguage is
not english... I think itīs better to express yourself In your motherlanguage. That's a bit generalizing
but itīs more or less true. By the way, do you understand everything people sing (even if you know the
language) if you haven't heard the song before? On lyric sheets it's possible to write in two languages.
As I study 2 languages (italian & spanish), I'm convinced that it's always good to try to understand
'No Paseran' for the yankees... What about the gulf-crisis? Do you see Hussein as a potential second
Hitler? Isn't there more at stake than the control over the oil-supply??
Andi: As I answer this question 4 months after the end of the gulf-war, itīs easier because we see the
results of this war. Hussein is still in power, Kuwait is free (and burning) and Iraq is destroyed.
Business as usual can continue. We had a lot of commercials for american weapons on TV. I don't
think that there was more at stake than the control over the oil-supply. None of the problems that
should've been solved, have been solved except one: the Emir of Kuwait is back.
How would you try to stop racism? By forbidding all racist propaganda/actions a d dismantling alt
racist/fascist organizations or by encouraging the integration of emigrants or
Andi: Well, forbidding is no solution. Just look at the ex-DDR: after 40 years of official
internationalism and "solidarity with everybody", you have a growing racism there, even more than
over here. There is no easy way to solve this problem. All you can do is remembering people that
in spite of the differences in language, colour of skin, culture and so on, everybody is a human
being. The fact that you're born here or there is just a coincidence which doesn't make you better
than another human being or your parents.
Dominik: Racism is a question of tolerance. If people were educated towards being more tolerant
about other ways of thinking, colour of skin and appearance and were more openminded, there
would not be so much troubles. People Just are not aware of different cultures, their rites and their
ideas; that's why they're afraid and feel threatened by what they can not understand. Racism reduces
thinking for your own and looks for easy solutions, things are easily divided In good or bad. That's
why itīs so popular.
"Legalizing drugs will get it out of criminal spheres." Your
Andi: At least not legalizing drugs hasn't solved the problem. I don't really understand why itīs no
crime to drink alcohol but it is to smoke joints or take other drugs.
Dominik: The society is the problem; if everyone was reality free and happy and we lived in a
human society, people wouldn't want to escape. Users of hard drugs are addicts, not criminals but
they need a lot of money for their drugs. They are forced to do criminals things as long as the
prices remain that high. If one could buy it in pharmacies for low prices, the big dealers wouldn't
make any profits and there would be less criminality. I don't know if it would be a good idea to
legalize all drugs but nobody would do them just because it is forbidden.
These were some ideas of the people in FFF (Fanatike Feinde des Fascismus - Fanatic Enemies
of Fascism), a longlasting german band that combines power and originality. Their music is - and
Iīm not exaggerating - fantastic. If you want to order their album or just write, here's the address
FFF ...etc. Bonn, Germany. FFF are: Dolly (vocals/electric violin) Andi (bass) Vladi
(guitar) Dominik (drums/voc.)