this is work in progress or homilies or miscellaneous items

that don’t warrant a page by themselves

or seem to fit better here



pending poems  index



chronological order is from the bottom to the top of the page



audio files can be complemented by listening to them  with the eyes closed  !



charles bukowski was a slow developer, his later stuff  is much much better and you can see him starting to develop a really good feel for that   synchronicity for profundity    that he didnʼt have  (so much? )  earlier !

thatʼs autism, that continual lifetime development, even at the end his brain didnʼt crap out !

all those blows    I  II    to the head and alcohol, amazing, a real genetic freak  !  : o )

what does zen  offer  you ?  its not giving you much for your labour !

btw at 29 hopefully you are past earlier vanities ,  contacts have several negative health effects, a new discovery is they  bias  the microbiome in the eye in a more toxic direction

   brad warner has been complaining recently about increased religiosity in zen  . . .

jason  w r i t e s

had a pint of heavy cream several days ago and it made me depressed ,  just getting over it today

the roar of the world

 its just like an endless roar  !

the roar of the world

 its just like an endless roar !

the roar of the world

red stands out against the black doesnʼt it ! ?

eartags on the angus cattle !

red stands out against the black doesnʼt it ! ?

eartags on the angus cattle

red stands out against the black doesnʼt it ! ?

red stands out against the black doesnʼt it !

red stands out against the black doesnʼt it

young adults swipe  to old age !

youth swipes to age !

youth swipes to age

religion is a proxying system, if you are seeing its vacuity more, its because you have become less interested in proxying !

religion is a proxying system, if you are seeing its vacuity more, its because you have become less interested in proxying

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it

yet it is  t o u c h e d

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it

yet it is  t o u c h e d

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it

yet it is  t o u c h e d

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it

yet it is touched

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it, yet it is  t o u c h e d

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it, yet it is  t o u c h e d

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it, yet it is  t o u c h e d

you can touch it, or you canʼt touch it, yet it is touched

you can touch it or you canʼt touch it, yet it is touched

law requires a literary level of reading sophistication, if you donʼt have/do that, then you shouldnʼt go into it  ̱   ̱   of course most who go into it donʼt have that !

law requires a literary level of reading sophistication, if you donʼt have/do that, then you shouldnʼt go into it  ̱   ̱ 

law requires a literary level of reading sophistication, if you donʼt have that, then you shouldnʼt go into it

if you ask for help and people are telling you things you agree with, they are not really helping you are they, because you already agree with them ! ?

if you ask for help and people are telling you things you agree with, they are not really helping you are they, because you already agree with them !

if you ask for help and people are telling you things you agree with, they are not really helping you, because you already agree with them !

if you ask for help and people are telling you things you agree with, they are not really helping you because you already agree with them !

co-operative behavior  amongst hyenas  to kill a bogged cape buffalo calf and drive the mother away !

this is a rational discussion, thereʼs no need to be so defensive !

this is a rational discussion, thereʼs no need to be so defensive

this is a rational discussion, thereʼs no need to be defensive !

this is a rational discussion, thereʼs no need to be defensive

this is rational discussion, thereʼs no need to be defensive !

this is rational discussion, thereʼs no need to be defensive

depression and what goes with it undercuts absolutely everything . . .

depression and what goes with it undercuts absolutely everything

what are you objecting to ?

trying to hassle me out of my opinion or something ?

what are you objecting to

trying to hassle me out of my opinion or something

“  i canʼt have this kind of shit bringing me down every day the way it is now ”

yeah like its her fault ?

there is basically  no fault ,  either herʼs or yourʼs, a partnership has been dissolved and the context disappeared, there is only a context in your own mind !

is it just not thinking straight or is it deliberately dishonest  ?

is it just not thinking straight or is it deliberately dishonest ?

is it just not thinking straight or is it deliberately dishonest

is it just not thinking straight or is it sorta deliberately dishonest  ?

is it just not thinking straight or is it sorta deliberately dishonest ?

is it just not thinking straight or is it sorta deliberately dishonest

my vitamin E bolus  protocol  for migraine  !

one of the interesting things about the internet is the sheer endlessness of difficult malign people . .

its just a huge counter real life proportion and one has to be very wary

the adage  “ if your enemy is making a mistake donʼt interrupt him ! ”  applies to these people

your entire life correcting these people is a waste of a life . . but one sees it occuring constantly and its a mistake oneself is well prone to make as well !

: o ( )

a bit of wallaby brain and i am starting to think straight again !

when the diet is not right i come up with  “ still born ”  homilies ,  they are half there but on thinking more about them ,  they donʼt pan out !

god i sent away a jehovahʼs witness without arguing with him  !

“ iʼm just not interested thanks ”

he was beautifully dressed and had a young son with him !

god i sent away a jehovahʼs witness without arguing with him  !

“ iʼm not interested thanks ”

he was beautifully dressed and had a young son with him !

life is just an accumulation of failures

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blue light is a  stimulant    !

blue light is a stimulant

axyz  is clichéd vacuity

why ?

what is she afraid of  ?

axyz  is clichéd vacuity

why ?

axyz is clichéd vacuity

dr. haas, from the horseʼs mouth, elaine gottshcall   recollects  !

rita   a s k e d   (from a message board on the 5th august 2000)

are superstitions memes or are all memes superstitions ?

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 that question is too difficult  ; o )

iʼm just exploring this, like you

all i know so far is that memes seem to describe certain situations very well, they are an actual thing, so you can look at say christianity or buddhism  (because i am familiar with these) . . .  you can see the coding

13 is an unlucky number

well what do you think ?

is it a meme ?

it came about because 13 = 1 + 12 (dozen) ,  sometimes i have to deliberately think, well thatʼs how it came about, its just another number

is it a stand-alone meme or part of a cultural complex meme ?

maybe there are  “ cultural superstitions ”  memes ?

its not clear to me at all.

the way i visualise memes is they are like the outer part of a vortex, a sort of swirl of colours cohereing or becoming fluid as they rotate around the associative pole of the vortex

existance has an associative pole and our lives are this swirl of colours, so as you point out memes are both our hard and soft neurology, parental roles, superstitions, religions

i remember seeing a pic years ago of a french painting  ( 18th century ? )  which was designed to be viewed in a convex mirror, it looked like a circular swirl of colour around a center, but when you looked at it in the mirror, it straightened out and became like we normally see

So human neurology and culture is like the condition without the mirror, seemingly meaningless and endless, but viewed through the mirror of undistorted understanding, things are simple and understandable

i think a defining aspect of memes is that they are a pretend undistorting mirror, they falsely claim to represent truely when viewed through its semantic/semantics

an actual undistorting mirror, like some of wang weiʼs or emily dickinsonʼs poetry or dogens discursion on heavenly and earthly stones . . .  they are not pretend and they are not memes

ducks flashing in the water

ripples running in the light

today, tomorrow, the day after, where am i going ?

ducks flashing in the water

ripples running in the light

today tomorrow and the day after

where am i going ?

a good  commentary  on the iliad, i must confess i had no idea what it was  about  !

lindy beige looks  interesting  !

a way of looking at it is it is all occurring in the one brain  ?

a way of looking at it is it is all  occurring  in the one brain !

a way of looking at it, is it is all  occurring  in the one brain !

it is all occurring in the one brain !

‘ alice in wonderland ’  sprang out of the intensity and boundary morphing of love, he loved those children  !

‘ alice in wonderland ’  sprang out of the intensity of love, he loved those children  !

‘ alice in wonderland ’  sprang out of the intensity of love, he loved those children

to a lot of people, i think the notion that medications, psychiatric or otherwise have very significant side effects is really dissonant

upsets their mentally lazy world view

to a lot of people, i think the notion that medications, psychiatric or otherwise have very significant side effects is really dissonant

to a lot of people, i think the notion that medications, psychiatric or otherwise have side effects is really  dissonant

upsets their mentally lazy world view

to a lot of people, i think the notion that medications, psychiatric or otherwise have side effects is really dissonant

a safe is opened by whatever combination opens it, the opening itself is the prior conditioning . .

the prior conditioning is the safe itself being open . .

the condition or capacity of it being open inhering in it as a safe being closed or open naturally arise from its existance as a safe, that is the potential for opening/being open is always there and maybe accessed in a neural  “ reservoir computing ”

a safe is opened by whatever combination opens it, the opening itself is the prior conditioning . .

the prior conditioning is the safe itself being open . .

a safe is opened by whatever combination opens it, the opening itself is the prior conditioning . .

the prior conditioning is itself being open . .

a safe is opened by whatever combination opens it, the opening itself is the prior conditioning . .


sepehr asks

could you elaborate on what you mean regarding parallelism being true versus the singularity at the big bang

you once said the universe is infinite parallelism, and i would appreciate it if you elaborate more in laymanʼs terms

i can kind of see what you are pointing to in a mystical sense, but i actually feel i have more work before i can understand the full extent of what youʼre conveying

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thereʼs only parallelism as processes, so we are concerned with identity with infinity but there are only parallel processes existant !

there are also parallel processes in identity with infinity, both completely convergent to meaninglessness and in a state of flux !

singularity is basically a convergence to meaninglessness but reality and physical reality is parallelism and flux

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in terms of parallelism the big bang is now thought to to be a condensed point of a transition between two universes rather than itself being an existant origin from meaninglessness

this condensed point is highly ambiguous being both an excursion close to meaninglessness and rather robust parallelism forced to mutual close proximity

its really the old zen koan, theoretically the point of a needle may not pass, but in practice a horse and coach passes through

my view and experience is that the whole thing is much more benign, in theory there is no needle point, just effective carriage combinations if you see what i mean

a safe is opened by whatever combination opens it, the opening itself is the prior conditioning . .

so, i have some fence to repair, four sections blew off in the gale ,  i was too slack to tack one section back when it started to go and the next three had gone by cantilever when i looked again . .

a little lesson about not putting on the rain gear and getting out when something starts . .

anyway it bounds the house from a temporarily empty paddock, told the the farmers who gave me a week, its now a week and a half and still about four days left

usually i rush at these jobs and finish them in a day exhausted

this time i am doing enough to meet my daily requirement for exercise, then stopping

am i getting older or what ?


dr. van nunen  advises  using an ether containing spray such as wart-off or ʻ medifreeze skin tag remover ʼ to freeze-kill adult ticks in situ without them squirting an allergen in and waiting one to three hours until they drop off  rather than pull them off !

a permethrim containing cream such as for scabies is used for larvae/nymphs, in the usa nymphs are of concern because they transmit lymes, removal or freezing may be appropriate in that case !

sepehr  a s k s

what other artists do you also consider to have a nice magical realist touch ?

whatʼs your opinion on james gurney ?

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james gurney is like david wiesner and jim lamarche, sorta half there but locked into a failing meme, unfeathered dinosaurs in his case !

obviously chris van allsburg is an outstandingly successful magical realist childʼs artist

i think when you do something like  that  it has to carry you and you believe in it . .

jason  w r i t e s

i couldnʼt tell all my stories at once if i wanted to anyway

the other day at work, in the morning i was just having flashes of all these dreams that iʼve had in the past, different distinct dreams, it was a strange morning and i wish i wasnʼt working, i was working alone though so i stopped to think

even my boss said he couldnʼt focus, i caught him once just staring at a pile of dead branches and also at the goats in their pen, btw iʼll be milking the goats soon and w.e. i milk i get to keep

two goats so about a gallon of milk

where i used to work

promote the incompetent, demote the competent

shishuang said ,  “ donʼt  need  you ”

the rabble of reddit zen, mongering on, they all need  “ you ” 

blind fools, farts and piss holes !

sepehr   w r i t e s

iʼve been looking at a lot of maxfield parrishʼs artwork, and i love the way he uses brilliant hues thatʼre contrasted with their complementary color, sometimes on the same object, in order to intensify the color in order to give off a magical realist feel

what are your particular favorite pieces by him ?

i also bought some of the children stories he illustrated for inspiration and study

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june skies  is one i quite like, you have to  “ mode ”  into it to appreciate it !

the ones that really did well for him had people or a single person/child in !

jason   w r i t e s

my father used to get tickets to hockey games at the nassau coliseum, heʼd sometimes take me while i was still young and usually it was just to humor him as i didnʼt and still donʼt know the rules of hockey very well

well it was the last period and our team was down by five, there was something like five minutes left and most fans were getting up walking out up the aisles to leave, my father was ready to leave to but i told him to wait until the end, i had a good feeling

one goal, two goals, more goals and by the end we were winning, the remaining fans were going nuts, the loud buzzer went off and i walked out of there like i accomplished something

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why are people like flies attracted to shit ?

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“ so youʼre okay with just sitting around ? ”

yeah

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jason says that the story about watching the hockey game was inspired by  ‘ the  weirdest  day ’  poem and in my view that story is a very good bit of writing, much more to it than meets the eye just like charles bukowskiʼs poems !

jason  r e p l i e s

i knew there was more to the story as i wrote it, but iʼm not really sure what, maybe because i canʼt pinpoint it with my  “ eye ”

iʼve got lotsa good stories, canʼt tell them all at once though !

my  reply

you often canʼt tell until afterwards and it can be weeks months years, decades !

imo jason has a savant ability to pick a gestalt of the way the teams are going  !

whatʼs the definition of   “ idiot ”  ?

someone you argue with because they take nothing on board  !

why are you arguing with them  ?

whatʼs the definition of   “ idiot ”

someone you argue with because they take nothing on board  !

why are you arguing with them

whatʼs the definition of   “ idiot ”  ?

someone you argue with because they take nothing on board

why are you arguing with them  ?

whatʼs the definition of   “ idiot ”

someone you argue with because they take nothing on board

why are you arguing with them

when you can say to yourself iʼm a bit of an idiot, no, really, then you are enlightened  !

when you can say to yourself iʼm a bit of an idiot, no, really then you are enlightened !

when you can say to yourself iʼm a bit of an idiot, no, really, then you are enlightened

when you can say iʼm a bit of an idiot, no, really then you are enlightened  !

when you can say iʼm a bit of an idiot, no, really, then you are enlightened !

when you can say iʼm a bit of an idiot, no, really then you are enlightened


we are all very distant from each other,  distant, distant, distant, distant

we are all very distant from each other,  distant, distant, distant, distant  !

we are all very distant from each other,  distant, distant, distant, distant

the  “ laid back enlightened game playing nihilistic zen master ”  posture ?

your  “ mature mental health professional who has seen it all but is still a kindly benign person ”  posture ?

games like football evolved from village battle practice, of course the fans are all  battle  and no practice ! : o)

i feel fundamentally that life is a bitter experience, that is life seen truely

the problem with psychiatric medications is the side effects from long term use and compounding of side effects with more than one medication !

you have to have seen the level of suffering from this to believe it, 8 medications in some cases, more meds added to solve snowballing problems, callous and irresponsible to say the least !

i have stopped posting on reddit zen ,  its the only thing that worked for me before, its sorta taken a week to get to this position which is really  “ when your enemy is making a mistake, donʼt interrupt them ” ,  they are hostile and just aim to screw any real understanding around, why help the unbenign crazies to my cost ?

what i find interesting about lsd is that the effect is not neutral but negative  l o n g  t e r m

“ under  the influence ,  brain networks that deal with vision, attention, movement and hearing became far more connected, leading to what looked like a  ‘ more unified brain ’ .  But at the same time, other networks broke down.  Scans revealed a loss of connections between part of the brain called the parahippocampus and another region known as the retrosplenial cortex ”

the temporary change in functional connectivity must be just too much for it, too alien an experience to be harmoniously integrated and carries some degree of physiological and semantic heft of harm . .  !

the claims for lsd are that it gives a genuine  “ mystical ”  experience, but in reality the effect is the opposite, not simply ersatz, but harmful !

what i find interesting about lsd is that the effect is not neutral but negative ,  that is people taking it get a permanently distorted fucked up view of reality !

this view of mine is of course contrary to the druggie bullshit of the harmlessness of LSD, but honestly i have not seen one instance of a LSD user who has become  “ enlightened ”

the temporary change in functional connectivity must be just too much for it, too alien an experience to be harmoniously integrated ,  instead just creating a stinking waste heap that with usual drug user stupidity and hypocrisy is called   “ beneficial ”

the nearest analogy i can think of is bad writes on a solid state hard disk ,  the timing and thresholds altered, the cells will never read right again !

what i find interesting about lsd is that the effect is not neutral but negative

oddly, some utiʼs are helped by growing a beard, thereʼs a useful bacteria that grows on them !

my view of psychotropics and hallucinogens is similar to medical drugs, they have effects and side effects and use is based on the realities of the balance and utility

from a mystical viewpoint my observation is psychotropics and hallucinogens are a waste of time and some or most cause at least a degree of brain damage !

honestly, insanity breeds way better than sanity

the future was always doomed  !

honestly, insanity breeds way better than sanity

the future was always doomed

honestly, insanity breeds way better than sanity

some of us are so hyperlexic, it makes me wonder about a  “ scribe ”  gene !

some of us are so hyperlexic, it makes me wonder about a  “ scribe ”  gene

some people are so hyperlexic, it makes me wonder about a  “ scribe ”  gene

some people are so hyperlexic, it makes me wonder about a  “ scribe ”  gene

some of these reddit zen guys are absolute arseholes, donʼt understand shit, but know how to press buttons

mackowski has a drug history and has damage i am sure so just spends his time on reddit zen

i think you have to be careful, reddit zen can damage oneʼs sense of self worth, i strictly only use it for writing material, that is what it takes to ensure i stay sane !

maybe i should phase out again

its such a collection of retarded obstructive idiots as you never find in real life . .

iʼd be careful of her, a user of men to fulfil some dream she has or image she is trying to match

sheʼs semi-talented, an adele clone, she could be more, but you know . .

she will continue for years to use men for this end imo

the musical scene is always a nightmare and full of drugs

i think sheʼs definitely a burden you canʼt and donʼt want to carry . .

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imo sheʼs really autistic, you can meet a thousand people, but the one that is really autistic will stand out to you and you to them !

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yeah i was in the supermarket one week and she was talking about how she saw a beautiful bird somewhere and her co-worker was just  ‘ uh-huhing ’  her

brad warner no longer has a car and his bike just got stolen !

yup, thereʼs money in zen isnʼt there !

: o ( )

brad warner no longer has a car and his bike just got stolen !

yup, thereʼs money in zen isnʼt there !

“ is it only poetry, or literature too ? ”

this is going to seem  “ not right ”  but the most authentic and completely zen text i have come across is   the story of the stone

“ most things we read, and knowledge we come across donʼt bleed out into reality like zen does ”

thatʼs not true, a lot of poets and poetry and mystics have that same bleeding . .  (good phrase btw !)

whatʼs different about zen compared to say poetry is it is celibate  (or at least the authentic zen was) and in fact for the not too bright ( i donʼt exclude myself here)

some of the super talented poets (anna akhmatova, dylan thomas, charles bukowski) ,  they are right in it, but slow learners like myself do need considerable assistance . .

“ can you tell me more about the visionary you were speaking earlier as being truer intense reality ? ”

its just work and experience !

i think ewk is a product of the  “ bible belt ” ,  its just that scriptural approach transplanted to zen . .

he is trying to make zen what christianity is, you have a set of  “ sacred texts ”  ie the zen records and that becomes the base of the religion that everything refers too . .

because he and most people on reddit zen have no real life experience of  “ better quality ”  zen they donʼt know the literalness of zen being about  “ the transmission outside the scriptures ”  the records in zen are variable quality guides, that is all !

you must be old enough to remember records stuck in the same groove ?

bonding inequality  :  some bond stronger than others, why is that ?

bonding inequality  :  some bond stronger than others, why is that

“ cornell university researchers found that exposure to LED sources for even a few hours degrades the perceived quality of fluid milk more so than the microbial content that naturally accumulates over time

their  study  determined that milk remained at high-quality for two weeks when shielded from LED exposure, and that consumers overwhelmingly preferred the older milk over fresh milk stored in a typical container that had been exposed to LED light for as little as four hours ”

the solipsism of zen implies a limited concern for the welfare of others and total scepticism as regarding any  “ betterment ”  of the universe . .

what is the point of  endless posturing  ?

what is the point of  endless posturing  ?

what is the point of endless posturing ?

what is the point of endless posturing

i would never donate a kidney because of the flow on health problems !

i would never donate a kidney because of the flow on health problems

ewk, your zen is just a sort of nilhistic humanism !

certainly suits some !

thatʼs the thing about real zen, until dia kensho happens you will be of that viewpoint, same for me, i thought it was all rubbish !

thatʼs what zen and the approval system is about, buji is the unenlightened position !

kaneckt   a s k s

what do you want to accomplish on reddit zen, if i may ask ?

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lol ,  you want me gone  ?  : o )

reddit zen is my second bout of intense message board experience, my first was with health boards and my  compendium

i really learnt that thereʼs no justice on message boards, rather the whole purpose and benefit is to extend your understanding and improve your processing

as you go, so you get, so to speak . .

the net is filled with argumentative stupids with hidden agendas and issues, use them in the only way you can . .

why did you reply to this OP ,  you canʼt even  understand  yourself, its because deep in the recesses of your box, you are attracted to my light, the light of genuine inquiry and communion !

 you will be alone with the gods and the nights will   flame  with fire 

its the actuality of this that zen is about, you can talk or meditate or construct or push schemas, all worthless . .

this is what the masters and patriarchs say !

when that happens what you write, think and speak flames, you canʼt fake it though the industry of the world does nothing else !

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you will be alone with the gods and the nights will   flame  with fire

blogs are now the predominant literary form !

if you put a serious amount of time and effort into one then you are a writer !

in fact  99.9%  of writing has always been  “ income negative ”  !

blogs are now the predominant literary form !

if you put a serious amount of time and effort into one then you are a writer !

a real  treasure ship ,  unlike various polish nazi treasures  and treasure trains ! : o)

the zen  “ form is emptiness ”  is a piss poor translation that is also heterodox

“ form is a manifestation of infinity ”  is orthodox, but raises too many questions for the moronic public !

“ bray like a sheep ”  is their motto  !  : o )

sepehr  a s k s

two of my favorite children stories iʼve read so far :  david wiesnerʼs  ‘ flotsam ’  and jim lamarcheʼs  ‘ the day tiger rose said goodbye ’ .  iʼm interested in your opinions on them

they are both competent, but donʼt  "rock"  jumanji  "rocks"

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well to be honest they both  suck  ! : o (

 are there any zen teachings on honesty ? 

lie to your wife and about bedding young disciples seems to be the norm !

look not at what they say, but what they do !

there is a missing dimension in peoples lives

what is it ?

there is a missing dimension in peoples lives  what is it ?

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there is a missing dimension in peoples lives  what is it

there is a missing dimension in peoples lives what is it

reddit zen was always ruined  —   too many thugs, retards and stupids

you have to take the good with the bad  !

you have to take the bad with the good  !

you have to take the good with the bad

    you have to take the bad with the good  !

  you have to take the good with the bad  !

you have to take the bad with the good

you have to take the good with the bad

you have to take the bad with the good

its entirely personal

  please do not PM me !

its entirely personal

please do not PM me

its entirely personal

  do not PM me !

its entirely personal

do not PM me

reddit zen ,  the retarded, the scripting, the druggies, alcohol addicted, the pragmatic -semantic d i s o r d e r e d

charles bukowski and i are alike in this respect ,  taking endless wrong  turnings

the almost completely black feral kittenʼs left eye was closed and covered in a mucosey fluid, i was tempted to leave it as it had no handling experience but i thought it could lose the eye and i would feel guilty ever after

so i put on a lot of upperwear clothes and a heavy leather lefthand glove and nabbed it unawares . .

claws and legs were flashing   ( lol,  almost wrote  “ arms and legs ” )

but i managed to put several drops of colliodal silver into the eye and it dramatically improved the next day . . .

this experience combined with my attempting the same thing the day after but grabbing it too low made it impossible to catch again, though friendly and capable of being handfed, it would not touch food put on that glove !

also it was bronchial so was in a run down condition, i figured what it needed was wallaby liver so i went out and shot three, it is just amazing the amount of meat and offal cats can get through over several days, no wonder the ferals are always hungry . .

the eye is almost completely healed now and the bronchial condition is gone . .

actually when you read john martinʼs version, you start to want to do violent things to him

right hand  side

the real bukowski

secret laughter shining

the home of the hunted is

underneath the last place

youʼd look

and even if you saw it

youʼd think it wasnʼt there

much the same way

as the average person

would look at

a great painting

 a masterʼs certainty can be a guide, bringing you to enlightenment 

from practical experience it doesnʼt

certainty is something that takes decades of your own working out

toni packer was the only teacher i ever met who was certain, the others werenʼt when you got down to it

when you  see  it you are certain !

and then it takes a lot of work to counterbalance the  “ normative ”  view of things !

you need to know how it works in fine detail, nothing can ever get around that ! : o )(

more scriptural ranting ewk ?

enlightenment will give you your own font, but you claim to have jumped the baptism !

you donʼt know how zen works ,  its not  “ scriptural ”  like christianity, its based on personal enlightenment ,  thatʼs what i mean by  “ font ”

that is you become the  “ master ”  or  “ patriarch ” in my case

you provide the source for  “ the records ”

you are written in as a stupid monk in  “ the records of the seventh patriarch ”

when i saw  this  i thought of you

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“ not that interesting to anyone ”

ed.  ewk quote speaking of andrew / 7th patriarch

see you are not solipsist, you are communal

validity comes from communion and baptism, not the gaping gawking murmuring agreement of the proles !

your  problem  is you have picked up a book and thought that was zen and you have never corrected this original mistake of lack of real life zen experience so you just donʼt know how it works !

it is not necessary to test people ,  you can see by what they say and the way they say it where they are at  !

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it is not necessary to test people ,  you can see by what they say where they are at  !

it is not necessary to test people ,  you can see by what they say where they are at

it is not necessary to test people, you can see by what they say where they are at

it is not necessary to test people ,  sometimes one sentence will give you a glimpse of where they are at  !

it is not necessary to test people ,  sometimes one sentence will give you a glimpse of where they are at


“ the mentality that blocks the tracks just grows stronger ”

7th patriarch approved !

thatʼs a really good  quote  you picked out, arenʼt you interested in making progress in zen instead of just becoming  more wrong  which is what most do on reddit zen !

“ inanely enter into vicious circles ”

fa-yen spent thirty years visiting teachers and seeking to understand, the average reddit zenner apparently has an immediate complete understanding !

the  genius  of charles bukowski

some  (ed. poets)  are good at

keeping shit stains

 out of the toilet,

others at

polishing the mirrors

 of their vanity.

some are good at

double-shifting

 on the upgrade,

others at

 sucking dick.

as drippings from

thin minds

spill from their tongues

I type

jason  a s k s

why do zen teachers feel compelled to find an heir but great writers like charles bukowski donʼt ?

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well the writing is the heir !

wang wei, li po and tu fu left their poems, but they were literate

i think a characteristic of tang and sung dynasty zen is the lack of literacy by most zen masters, you needed heirs or followers to have your pearls passed on, joshu i think was illiterate !

plus there's always a lot of manual labour in zen to keep the monasteries and hermitages going, any man over age 40 running such a place needs young labour !

in addition celibacy places a different perspective, charles bukowski had a daughter for instance !

toni packer who wasnʼt keen on the idea of  “ heirs ”  eventually caved in and gave permission to teach to some students of hers, i think this was to keep the springwater center running and care for herself as she got older

i think really its a circumstances thing

   a lot to do with the direction your life takes . .


its the big  problem  with editors, inferior minds, one of the reasons i write up all my stuff direct in html !

i am constantly using message boards, blogs and pmʼs to get the editing function and it works !

f u c k  y o u  editors !

: o )

this  study  says that cannabis is addictive, it disrupts and alters the brain reward system in its favour !

i would also guess that the  "normal"  reward system is disrupted which is why these  "stoners"  are so intractable and malfunctional !

a william s. burroughs quote OPʼed  on reddit zen

desperation is the raw material of drastic change.  only those who can leave behind everything they have ever believed in can hope to escape

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yeah, another reddit zen  " stump the brains trust "  role model  !

nothing so stupid it wonʼt be promoted by a reddit zenner, though he never did any jail time for

" in 1951, burroughs killed vollmer by shooting her in the head in what was apparently a drunken attempt at playing william tell "

so is certainly a successful  " escapee "

" in absentia, burroughs was convicted of manslaughter in  vollmerʼs  death

he received a two-year suspended sentence "

money talks very loud in mexico !

ask  reddit

when she showed me a sonogram of an aborted baby she kept in her sock drawer, and warmly spoke of it ,  like it was any other baby photo

the cemetery of the   sémillante ,  endless bodies, dead dead dead

the  cemetery  of the sémillante ,  endless bodies, dead dead dead

the cemetery of the sémillante ,  endless bodies, dead dead dead

the cemetery of the sémillante, endless bodies, dead dead dead

donʼt talk reasonably to a madman ! :o)

donʼt talk reasonably to a madman !

donʼt talk reasonably to a madman

donʼt talk reasonably to a mad man ! :o)

donʼt talk reasonably to a mad man !

donʼt talk reasonably to a mad man

if you stop being a pedagogue, what is left ?

the beginnings of enlightenment ?

ewk, if you stop being a pedagogue, what is left ?

the beginnings of enlightenment ?

if you stop being a pedagogue, what is left ?

its a form of depression to work too hard to line the pockets of others !

to work too hard to line the pockets of others ,  its a form of depression !

its a form of depression to work too hard to line the pockets of others, its a form of depression !

its a form of depression to work too hard to line the pockets of others, thatʼs a mistake i have made, its a form of depression !

the moon floats above the pines

and the night veranda is cold

as the ancient clear sound comes from your fingertips

the old melody usually makes the listener weep

but zen music is beyond sentiment

do not play again until the great sound of the way accompanies you

a poem by hsueh tou  (980-1052)

my   r e p l y

the moon floating above the pines beams its healing rays, warming those  “ who know ”

harmonies flow from the finger tips to make the listener and player weep . .

an intrinsic deep melody of a complexity, beauty and harmony that rivets !

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jason   r e p l i e s

really good

bet no one on the r/zen could translate that better

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a bit more than a translation !

this is the big thing to get used to in zen, what we see in the records is like an emaciated shorn sheep compared to the original, or at least what some of the originals must have been

the  “ boundarized morons ”  of course pout and sling mud because their empty fraud is exposed when confronted with real emotional depth !

jason   r e p l i e s

they canʼt read it or they canʼt believe it

they want to stay in their paltry understanding

when you read zen stuff, are you doing a sort of translation as youʼre reading ?

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nah, it takes literally decades to get the background to   realign   this stuff and then add a dash of inspiration !

actually i guess what you say is somewhat the case !

dota2nub ,  your replies would be better if you accounted for your reading age difficulties  !

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your replies would be better if you accounted for your reading age difficulties  !

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your replies would be better if you accounted for your reading age difficulties  !

your replies would be better if you accounted for your reading age difficulties !

your replies would be better if you accounted for your reading age difficulties

zakaj  w r i t e s

it seems to me that thereʼs still some incoherence in what you currently are, that has to be resolved  -  and it revolves around the vision and its centrality !

that is still something that has to be deconstructed

my  r e p l y

visions are like everything else, ranging from meaningful to half meaningful to utterly un-understood and not understandable !

god that happened to me last night  ,  an endless panolpy of places and people turning over and across like some weird film !

hakuin was a great   bet hedger   which was just as well as very few of them ever turned out for him !

if you actually read dogen and look at a map of the monasteries he visited ,  you realise he went to china !

what zen master kowtowed to mental health professionals ?

what is the source of genius ?

you donʼt understand what i am saying do you ?

genius is going outside the boundaries in a coherent way, the boundarized morons point and bray  “ bad ”  and kill it if they can !

the 7th partriarch speaks/writes

straight up real zen, not fake voynich ! :o)

anyway

the very act of looking changes you and changes what is seen !

what ground do you think you stand on ?

the very act of looking changes you and changes what is seen !

what ground do you think you stand on ?

a good poem has many layers  !

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a good poem has many layers  !

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a good poem has many layers  !

a good poem has many layers !

a good poem has many layers

ewk doesnʼt like dogen for the same reason he doesnʼt like me, we both elevate the visionary and that doesnʼt fit with his dull psychiatric pseudo scientific view of the universe !

“ what do you mean by elevating the visionary ? ”

well, its a bit like alice in wonderland, a truer more intense reality !

“ like psychedelics ? ”

 no, they are machine built, not the true eye !

“ by "machine built" you mean like man-made ? ”

thatʼs a good question, i'm glad you asked, not all reddit zen is "dumb and dumber" ! : o)

what i mean is that psychedelics are too random and not directed enough in effect, an eye, but not the  "true eye"  so to speak !

the  "way"  is like a long trail you have to find your way along, following paths, clues and results

psychedelics are just throwing spanners in the neurocognitive works and the effect is too random and not even in any direction let alone having the fineness of detail necessary for the  "way" / this work !

i have never seen any effective understanding come from psychedelics or ayahuasca though ayahuasca seems to be more directed in the way it can unlock memories

the contemplative work of zen and quality mysticism is the "directed drive"' of "the way" you canʼt short cut it with drugs and drugs have the additional problem of brain damage !

“ boundarized morons ”  are without imagination !

“ boundarized morons ”  are without imagination

obnoxious does not equal interesting !

obnoxious does not equal interesting

if you look at your own life in any level of detail, it sucks the will to fight !

if you look at your own life in any level of detail, it sucks the will to fight

if you look at your own life at any level of detail, it sucks the will to fight !

if you look at your own life at any level of detail, it sucks the will to fight

you donʼt think you get attached, but you do  ̲   .  ͟ 

ran over the grey/black striped kitten backing out of the garage early this afternoon, it was sleeping on a wheel i think

it made me sad, stopped off at the flooding stream to think about it !

sentimentally i thought i was going to bury it but i just tossed it over the fence !

all a bit a  painful 

if the world rejects you

reject it

just be careful how you

go about it though

it is not friendly

to

you

if the world rejects you

reject it

just be careful how you

go about it though

it is not friendly

to

you

if the world rejects you

reject it

what i write is worthy of whitespace

a

fragrant

cadence

bears

heavily

what i write is worthy of whitespace

a

fragrant

cadence

bears

heavily

some people are like farts

unannounced they come

when they leave

you

donʼt

want

to

see

them

again

some people are like farts

unannounced they came

when they leave

you

donʼt

want

to

see

them

again

its like a fart

unannounced they come

when they leave

you

donʼt

want

to

see

them

again

its like a fart

unannounced they came

when they leave

you

donʼt

want

to

see

them

again

the very act of looking changes you and changes what is seen  !

the very act of looking changes you and changes what is seen !

the very act of looking changes you and changes what is seen

i never criticize a poem as good or bad

sometimes i write a reply to them  !

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i never criticize a poem as good or bad

sometimes i write a reply to them  !

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i never criticize a poem as good or bad

sometimes i write a reply to them  !

i never criticize a poem as good or bad

sometimes i write a reply to them !

i never criticize a poem as good or bad

sometimes i write a reply to them

reddit zen

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth

m  e  a  n  i  n  g l  e  s  s  l  y

reddit zen

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth endlessly

without

 m  e  a  n  i  n  g

reddit zen

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth endlessly

without

m

e

a

n

i

n

g

reddit zen

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth endlessly

without meaning

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth

m  e  a  n  i  n  g l  e  s  s  l  y

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth endlessly

without

 m  e  a  n  i  n  g

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth endlessly

without

m

e

a

n

i

n

g

one hundred

different pages

in

a book

they just flip back and forth endlessly

without meaning

“ wasnʼt socrates a fictional character made by plato ? ”

what would  xanthippe  say ?

plenty of old lotus posture cripples

stand on your head, what does it matter, the buddha ghost is going to razz you ?

mental health

youʼre a  different  page, iʼm not interested in educating the billigerent and unsee-ing

so much of the reddit zen  “ trauma ”  is due to really big foundational differences, the pages differ, which one is right and which one is wrong only matters to the page that its on  .  .

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i donʼt find you informed, but your view is that you are informed, so basically all we are arguing over is  “ who is informed ”

pointless  no ?

youʼre a different page, iʼm not interested in educating the billigerent and unsee-ing

youʼre a different page, iʼm not interested in educating the billigerent and and unsee-ing

what zen master retreats to a cut and paste when he gets in a tizz  ?

ed. ewk  ?

ok, so not a zen master !

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what zen master retreats to a cut and paste when he gets in a tizz  ?

what zen master retreats to a cut and paste when he gets in a tizz ?

what zen master retreats to a cut and paste when he gets in a tizz

just put me on ignore and sleep soundly ,  thereʼs zillions of hours wasted on your sort  (ed. ewk)  of bullshit, your extra 600 thousand is neither here nor there ! :o)

just put me on ignore and sleep soundly ,  thereʼs zillions of hours wasted on your sort of bullshit, your extra 600 thousand is neither here nor there ! :o)

“ why does soto zen disapprove of koans   [. . .]   i was wondering what the historical reason for this was

after all, theyʼre just stories ”

i really think there is no method except the actual doing, if you say koan or meditation or zazen then people get tangled in endless successive generations in some sort of  “aboutness”  that doesnʼt cut any real action !

why would anna akhamatova's famous    words

too sweet is earthly drink

too tight the nets of love

sometime let the children read

my name in their lesson book

and on learning the sad story

  let them smile shyly . .

since you’ve given me neither love nor peace

grant me bitter glory

be any less of a koan than some of the great masterʼs conversations ?

iʼm not really into wittgenstein, heʼs a bit dry and not necessarily correct

actually a crap artist !

iʼm not really into wittgenstein, heʼs a bit dry and not necessarily correct

the ending verse in mumonʼs preface

the great way is gateless

there are a thousand alleys

if you pass the barrier

in royal solitude you walk the universe

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the great way is gateless

except it has a gate

there are a thousand alleys

but only one really

If you pass the barrier

"no you"  passes the barrier

in royal solitude you walk the universe

it doesn't seem so royal, but i guess it is ! : o)

“ what ?  philosophers have ratings ?  who determines them and how ? ”

iʼd say there was some sort of concensus amongst the   “ cognoscenti ”

aristotle imo wasnʼt much good, but socrates who was very  “ zen ”  is !

guess which one got executed and which one had a  memorial  built to him ?

negativegpa states

yes, but there are many examples of those who have done  the same  and led relatively stable lives

my reply

say who and see if we are the same page  !

negativegpa replies  

rene descartes, immanuel kant, baruch spinoza, kurt vonnegut, terry pratchett, neil bohr richard feynman

my reply  

thanx, it really makes things clearer to give that sort of detail !

we're not on the same page, from a philosophy point of view, all of who you list are second or actually third rate, maybe descartes makes second rate and terry pratchett is down there at one millionth rate !

schopenhauer, heraclitus and derrida are first rate

emily dickinson and   al ma'arri  are first rate

anna akhmatova and osip mandelstam are first rate

i have noticed that some prefer  “ buddha ”  to be real which heʼs not and the zen patriarchs to be fictions because what the patriarchs say is so unpalatable to them !

i have noticed that some prefer  “ buddha ”  to be real which heʼs not and the zen patriarchs to be fictions because what the patriarchs say is so unpalatable to them

its a funny thing, the first ssd i brought was a micron which gave me a lot of trouble with slow corruption, looking at the web i couldnʼt make any sense of reviews or comments about it, but then i talked to a real life computer supplier and they told me the samsung had the best reputation and least returns, there was just no way this info was there on the web, though now i know what to look for, i can see it a bit !

the surprising thing about zen is the legendary figures like bodhidharma and the 6th patriarch are real people, though of course heavily hagiographed

i think the chinese are more honest

the inidans are not and gautama buddha is obviously a complete fiction, his so called life and teachings are stories in fact added together over many generations and buddhism of course got its big fillip during the reign of aśoka !

muhammad and jesus are similar fictions !

mani is not and let his fate be a caution !

thereʼs a central issue, obviously what zen is, is more than just a restricted religious area of interest over certain rather long gone periods of chinese, korean and japanese history !

jason  a s k s

what do you think are positive aspects of studying zen face to face irl with a teacher ?


my reply

the odd thing about my time with toni packer who was important for me was that i was not experienced enough to talk to her about things it would have been useful to have a conversation about, the life issues of spending time on contemplative inquiry, and though it was to my advantage to be able to stay in what was really her creation,  "the springwater center"  i didnʼt feel she had made a right life choice for herself getting so involved in it and putting her remaining life so completely in it !

if you look at well known people who have made  "contemplative inquiry"  their lifeʼs work, nietzsche, dogen hakuin even the possibly executed bodhidharma and certainly assassinated huike, schopenhauer, van gogh, keats, dylan thomas, charles bukowski, there's a long list, the vast majority has made bad messes of their lives and like myself, taken every wrong turning in the book . .

those with reasonably sane lives are very few, jacques derrida would be one for instance, wang wei another . .

"enlightenment"  seems to be the result of giving coherence and meaning to an unsuccessful life, that is life itself is unsuccessful and you canʼt see this without being a wreck and wrecked !

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everyone on that list i gave was autistic or on  "autistic spectrum" ,  so i guess i mean what is now called developmentally disabled

of course you can be too wrecked which is what alcohol and drugs do, a few of those on r/ zen . .

my entire observation of drugs is they do nothing helpful in this  "search"  and are a contrary road

i might say the same about alcohol, but there is always charles bukowski . .

zakaj  a s k s

“ do you think aurobindo/motherʼs thing was a cult ? ”

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     yes aurobindo/mother is a cult and  con . . .  !

“ do you think a programming career is good for a contemplative type ? ”

do what you are good at and find easy, life should be fun and not drudge

you will have seen the refugee problem, a million unskilled but able, you donʼt want to be in the same labour pool as those !

yeah the future is automation, robotics programming engineering

the raspberry pi is good value, a really good learning and real life tool !

no practicing at golf, no handicap improvement  !

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no practicing at golf, no handicap improvement !

no practicing at golf, no handicap improvement


i had a vision of a long surf beach with great crashing waves and it was very bright and also hazy from the salt spray, maybe even a touch of pink in the light

the waves as they crashed were constantly spitting out clothed people onto the beach where they crawled, stood about and walked

they looked very small and many as this was seen from above and some distance away further down the beach and out over the sea a bit

there were a lot of them and behind the beach it was quite urban ,  maybe with towers and a road above the sand

it just amazes me where this stuff comes from, never in a million years could i have thought this up by myself

actually i have a fairly exact picture of it ,  if i was an artist i could draw it up

it would make a good painting

two days after it happened i came across a joshu koan which says pretty much the same thing !

brown rice can have high arsenic levels and arsenic does negatively affect the kidneys and small intestine since they have the highest  physiologic  concentrations of it !

bizarre ,  if you gave it to me and i didnʼt know what it was, i wouldnʼt even attempt to sell it to a second hand mart !

grapes have biofilm problems, fungal promoting sugars, they really are only designed for wines which convert the sugars !

ed.  you could say bred but  "designed"  captures the  "flavour"  more

basically its grape sugars and flora feeding or seeding bad gut bacteria/flora/biofilm/microbiome, the degree of problem depends on the state of your digestion and immune system of course !

thereʼs something wrong with your attention span ,  you go forward too aggressively and canʼt go back !

thereʼs something wrong with your attention span ,  you go forward too aggressively and canʼt go back

thereʼs something wrong with your attention ,  you go forward too aggressively and canʼt go back !

thereʼs something wrong with your attention ,  you go forward too aggressively and canʼt go back


spinozaʼs motto

 be careful, never say exactly what you’re thinking 

but with writing you are saying exactly what you are thinking, why does that cause so much trouble ?

peopleʼs projections clash with what they read ?

you canʼt teach abstract thinking to those with no inclination for it, they just make a hash never comprehending their error !

you canʼt teach abstract thinking to those with no inclination for it, they just make a hash never comprehending their error

you canʼt teach abstract thinking to those with no inclination for it, they just make a hash of it never comprehending their error !

you canʼt teach abstract thinking to those with no inclination for it, they just make a hash of it never comprehending their error

arguing with an old person, you might as well throw the sea down a drain  !

arguing with an old person, you might as well throw the sea down a drain !

arguing with an old person, you might as well throw the sea down a drain

i donʼt think you have understood what i wrote, the  ‘ real zen ’  is the work of a lifetime, we can spend decades making the same mistake !

allergies are a hyper immune response  !

allergies are a hyper immune response  !

the anti-inflammatories like fish/krill oil and vitamin D, should help, immune system promoters like B-12 might have the opposite effect ?

taking your shirt off and getting five minutes sun on the skin is also very immune suppressing !

zinc as per the compendium may help, it tones down the allergic immune response

with sun exposure just go by what works, i think its better to take off oneʼs shirt for a while and donʼt overdo the head, you have a lifetime of exposure  "ahead"  of you !

i had a mango allergy that zinc cured me of !

allergies are a hyper immune response

its your pretending to know something you have no real life experience of, frustrating to deal with as that lack of experience makes anything you say fantasy !

you go backwards more than you go forwards so the questions lead in the wrong direction !

fyi real life zen is basically organised around  masters  or the supposed enlightened versus the proles, ie the rest !

if you read the zen records it has always been this way

i think people come to grief on this because their experience is christianity which is  "holiness"  through the scriptures and often doesnʼt even claim  "priests"  are that special in that respect !

ewk ,  i think our difference is our views of the universe, you are humanistic materialistic like the rest of  "buji"  zen ,  essentially atheism with its usual veneer of  "niceness"

my view is visionary at its foundation . . anti-materialist and actually anti  "spiritual" !

how crazy is it to think you know something without any real life experience of it ? !

how crazy is it to think you know something without any real life experience of it ! ?

how crazy is it to think you know something without any real life experience of it ?

how crazy is it to think you know something without any real life experience of it !

the key phrase is  "hip opening"  which is what goes on behind the  scenes  , sex is the real driver for this bullshit !

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sex AND money, though there is not usually much money around, though there can be as per osho/rajneesh et al !

zen is more on the sex and broke side, there are various yoga and hindu type gurus who have done very well  (by their lights)  in both respects

till bad publicity rears its ugly/beautiful head . .

a reddit zenner quoting  me

“ you have to interact to understand something, not simply read ! ”

i would rather say that you have to DO or PRACTICE something to understand, not merely read it.  iʼm not sure that debating it with others is a necessary step, although it may sometimes be helpful

my

r e p l y

at the risk of seeming clichéd, there is no "i" and what you have just said is the usual voynich, that is mistaken because the viewpoint is wrong !

"practice" in practice is a uniform disaster area in my observation, another meaningless proxy designed to waste time in a life !

i think in relationship, men tolerate a mind boggling level of dishonesty by the female and once out of the relationship, he no longer does that and its very disturbing to the female !

“ it just struck me  —  is this what r/zen is ? 

 refugees whoʼve been banned from other subreddits ? ”

r/zen's uncensored stance gives a true energy of inquiry, all the other subs like r/ meditation, buddhism, hinduism etc are highly censored and very flat to read, endless stupids pontificating the "party line"

though most seem to do that on r/ zen, only its their own  "party line" ,  even those apparently claiming allegiance to buddhism seem to have their own highly idiosyncratic version shaped by a complete lack of real life experience and reading of s t u p i d s

dogenʼs views  changed  throughout his life, soto treats him like an unvarying rock of unchallengeable knowledge, thatʼs one of the big issues with the way he is presented . .

he was highly autistic and a lot of the early rules and vocabulary are scripted, he improves as he gets older, its a pity he didnʼt live longer

but ewkʼs claim he was a fraud and never went to china is untrue . .

he was genuine and visionary, thatʼs why ewk doesnʼt like him or hakuin, he canʼt handle the visionary aspect, but visions have always been essential or foundational to the mystical truth

the unenlightened will never understand of course !

the division of those who know and those who donʼt is essential in zen, you canʼt paper it over with a scientific - materialist - humanist view of the universe !

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youʼre not understanding what i am saying, your perspective is  semantic pragmatic  or literal,  just the wrong place from which to view these things !

quasi-literalism is where its at !

why so ashamed to say who you find to have deep insight and not say who your teacher is, thereʼs really something wrong there !

99%  of people in zen would have been better to play golf than waste their time so shamefully . .

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you say teacher, you mean  "drugs"  donʼt you !

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i think i know who you are, and the reality of your zen teacher association is just bullshit, and he certainly doesnʼt approve of you

wanking fraud, drugs probably ?

just floating around on the periphery of zen trying to rationalise . .

iʼm the real thing and you canʼt handle it, we have had a run in before !

if after reflection and weighing over time, you see that things are a certain way, they are that way, donʼt listen to the braying jackasses  !

if after reflection and weighing over time, you see that things are a certain way, they are that way, donʼt listen to the braying jackasses  !

if after reflection and weighing over time, you see that things are a certain way, they are that way, donʼt listen to the braying jackasses

if after reflection and weighing over time, you see that things are a certain way, they are that way, donʼt listen to the jackasses


one philosopher is executed

the other has a  memorial  built to them

uneven,  no ?

one philosopher is executed

the other has a memorial built to them

uneven no ?

i suppose you want more of a poem

well

thereʼs

just

no

point

in

increasing

the

grief

!

i suppose you want more of a poem

well

thereʼs

just

no

point

in

increasing

the

grief

!

i suppose you want more of a poem

well

thereʼs

just

no

point

in

increasing

the

grief

thereʼs just no point in increasing the grief  !

thereʼs just no point in increasing the grief !

thereʼs just no point in increasing the grief

my life as far as i can see is just endless roads in the wrong direction

until the road sorta runs out

or i change too early

or

too

late  !

my life as far as i can see is just endless roads in the wrong direction, until the road sorta runs out, or i change too early, or too late  !

my life as far as i can see is just endless roads in the wrong direction, until the road sorta runs out, or i change too early, or too late

god the zillions of words pumped into a vacuous universe !

god the zillions of words pumped into a vacuous universe

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on trying to understand the world better  ̱   ̱ 

i wonder why  ?

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on trying to understand the world better  ̱   ̱ 

i wonder why ?

god the zillions of words pumped into a vacuous universe !

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on trying to understand the world better  ̱   ̱ 

i wonder why ?

god the zillions of words pumped into a vacuous universe

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on trying to understand the world better  ̱   ̱ 

i wonder why ?

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on trying to understand the world better  ̱   ̱ 

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on  "spiritual stuff"

i wonder why  ?

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on  "spiritual stuff"

i wonder why ?

i donʼt have energy to spare, yet i am spilling it all out on  "spiritual stuff"

when a woman has children by a man she doesnʼt love, thereʼs always something missing  !

when a woman has children by a man she doesnʼt love, thereʼs always something missing !

when a woman has children by a man she doesnʼt love, thereʼs always something missing

when a woman has a child by a man she doesnʼt love, thereʼs always something missing  !

when a woman has a child by a man she doesnʼt love, thereʼs always something missing !

when a woman has a child by a man she doesnʼt love, thereʼs always something missing

remember  that pond, cattails globular on the sides

you ask me what that means

i donʼt know !

i remember that pond

cattails

globular

on the

sides

you

ask me

what

that

means

i

donʼt

 know !

i remember

that

pond

cattails

globular

on

the

sides

i remember starting on  ‘ the water babies ’  when young and thinking after reading awhile, its all screwed up and when i look at it  again  its still screwed up !

: o (

thereʼs no morality to theft, its just business, youʼd best look to the company you keep though !

thereʼs no morality to theft, its just business, youʼd best look to the company you keep though

if you mix with the rabble, you will start to sound like the rabble !

if you mix with the rabble, you will start to sound like the rabble

if you mix with the rabble, youʼll start to sound like the rabble !

if you mix with the rabble, youʼll start to sound like the rabble

the world is a madhouse, the less you have to do with it the better !

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the world is a madhouse, the less you have to do with it the better !

. .


o


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the world is a madhouse, the less you have to do with it the better !

the world is a madhouse, the less you have to do with it the better


i bet if i posted on r/mindfuless i would be soon banned, thatʼs what happened to me on r/meditation, within a post or two i got the most awful crazy schizophrenics latch onto me and when it became obvious i well outclassed them as a debater, bingo banned !

i donʼt mind betting the same thing would happen on r/mindfulness !

you have to interact to understand something, not simply read !

i bet if i posted on r/mindfuless i would be soon banned, thatʼs what happened to me on r/meditation, within a post or two i got the most awful crazy schizophrenics latch onto me and when it became obvious i well outclassed them as a debater, bingo banned !

i donʼt mind betting the same thing would happen on r/mindfulness !

you have to interact to understand something, not simply read !

“ professionals in  any field  of work ”

iʼm a jack of all trades

: o ) ( 

“ professionals in any field of work ”

iʼm a jack of all trades

: o ) 

“ professionals in any field of work ”

iʼm a jack of all trades

the question with any message board is how to make it productive for yourself  !

donʼt worry about changing people or getting the board to conform to some  "party line"  you envisage as being correct, rather take the viewpoint, if it closed down tomorrow what do i walk away with apart from a few scars !

the only possible useful answer to that is you have used the dialogue to develop a better and more functional understanding on whatever subject and hopefully that has translated into increased functionality in real life

“ things are as they should be ”

should be  ?

you asked about  ‘ should be ’ ,  there's no should be except yourself  !

“ things are as they should be ”

should be ?

you asked about  ‘ should be ’ ,  there's no should be except yourself  !

“ things are as they should be ”

should be ?

you asked about  ‘ should be ’ ,  there  !s no should be except yourself !

ashram  wars ,  its hard to understand the degree of warfare over such nonsense !

once while walking along the lake shore with mazu, mayu asked  “ what is the great nirvana ? ”

mazu said  “ windswept ”

mayu asked, what is it that is windswept

mazu swept his arm out over the lake and said  “ look ”

alice ,  a landscape of bumbling idiots and  s t r a n g e  transformations

alice,  a landscape of bumbling idiots and  s t r a n g e  transformations

alice  a landscape of bumbling idiots and  s t r a n g e  transformations

alice ,  a world of bumbling idiots and  s t r a n g e  transformations

alice,  a world of bumbling idiots and  s t r a n g e  transformations

alice  a world of bumbling idiots and  s t r a n g e  transformations

pressure cookers do require maintenance and some understanding of how they work !

theyʼre a lifetime investment !

pressure cookers do require maintenance and some understanding of how they work !

thatʼs  void

that isnʼt  void

void

or

not

void

its

giving

me haemorrhoids

: o)

thatʼs  void

that isnʼt  void

void

or

not

void

its

giving

me haemorrhoids

: o)

thatʼs  "void"

that isnʼt  "void"

void

or

not

void

its

giving

me haemorrhoids

: o)

thatʼs  "void"

that isnʼt  "void"

void

or

not

void

its

giving

me haemorrhoids


the monk asked  :   what is the unsleeping eye ?

 joshu replied  :   that which is seen and unseen

the monk asked  :   what is the sleeping eye ? 

  joshu replied  :   that which sees and doesnʼt see

what is the unsleeping eye ?

joshu replied, that which is seen and unseen

what is the sleeping eye ?

that which sees and doesnʼt see

i think humans as a species have always been designed to lose a large portion of its male population through warfare  !

i think humans as a species have always been designed to lose a large portion of its male population through warfare  !

i think humans as a species have always been designed to lose a large portion of its male population through warfare

oneʼs life may be bitter, not just in terms of what has happened, but what hasnʼt happened  !

. .


o


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oneʼs life may be bitter, not just in terms of what has happened, but what hasnʼt happened  !

oneʼs life may be bitter, not just in terms of what has happened, but what hasnʼt happened

the spectacular success of japan in the russo - japanese  war  laid the foundation for their ill fated, bizarre even, strategies for ww2, admiral isoroku yamamoto for instance was an ensign aboard the nisshin and badly wounded in the battle of tsushima, losing two fingers from his left hand !

vasily  vereshchagin, very striking  art  from his travels in central asia, india, tibet, all over really, a very remarkable man !

such a bizarre death aboard the ill fated petropavlovsk

he must have been an influence on maxfield parrish !

thereʼs no repair in the past or future

because thereʼs nothing to be repaired in the past or future

thereʼs no repair in the past or future because thereʼs nothing to be repaired in the past or future

why argue with the insane  ?   i do it all the time apparently !

. .


o


)


(

why argue with the insane  ?   i do it all the time apparently !

. .


o


(


)

why argue with the insane  ?   i do it all the time apparently ! :o)(

why argue with the insane  ?   i do it all the time apparently !

why argue with the insane  ?   i do it all the time apparently

‘ why is it important with a pressure cooker to be careful of not running out of water besides burning the food  ? ’

fair comment, i have run out of water heaps of times, its just a nuisance to remove the burnt and baked in stuff, but also i donʼt like the plastic on the cooker getting hot !

a stainless steel scouring pad works well !

i would never attempt to cook any dried bean without a pressure cooker

yeah soaked overnight

but basically frozen peas is where i am at, dried beans are just not worth the trouble and have digestive problems

“ you will die without descendants ”  is a fairly standard insult in the zen records, you can infer a lot from that phrase !

“ you will die without descendants ”  is a fairly standard insult in the zen records, you can infer a lot from that phrase

letʼs not fight, we are both people for whom life has been bitter, why visit more on ourselves  ?

letʼs not fight, we are both people for whom life has been bitter, why visit more on ourselves ?

letʼs not fight, we are both people for whom life has been bitter, why visit more on ourselves

what zen is about is wider than zen

literature, quality mysticism, the arts

if you follow that, it will naturally break the strangle hold of zenʼs limited compass

that is the only safe way to do it !

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the thing to get is obviously zen or what its about must be wider than zen since it is of infinity and  "all"

so if its just zen it's not wide enough !

if you can see that the christian and islamic/sufi mystics and english poets and writers express what infinity is about much better than the often distorted zen records . .

what i feel is unique about zen is that it is a celibate tradition and its rather complete and effective simplicity suits that, but thatʼs like how your life is, as a celibate it suits me and grounds me in the higher reality of celibacy, the world of course just wants you to breed and tells you that reality is otherwise !

this forum  (ed.  r/zen)  just looks ridiculous in the context of western art, the people are so limited ,  repetitive and lack basic understanding that in the real world they wouldnʼt hold up for a minute . .

so thatʼs one thing that really sticks out to me, all the huge investment of time here, only to be come more rigid and crimped and less real world effective

how is the world made better by imposing an opinion on it ?

what is exploration  ?

writing is much more what you think to yourself and not the public face we all live so constrained by !

writing is much more what you think to yourself and not the public face we all live so constrained by !

writing is much more what you think to yourself and not the public face we all live so constrained by !

writing is much more what you think to yourself and not the public face we all live so constrained by

who has the last word   ?  !

who has the last word  ?

who has the last word  ?

who has the last word

who has the last word

ewk, so no hours break from the computer, walking more than ten minutes a day and extending your diet and fluid intake beyond cereal, pizza and tea ?

i have seen several tea  "obsessives"  on the net and they all seem to have cognitive issues !

what zen master knowingly induced metabolic syndrome in himself ?

thatʼs a very  dense  tattoo and black inks have the highest nanoparticle levels !

i donʼt know why zen attracts the most unread, boring stupid people who feel impelled to tell me how wonderful they are and how upsetting to them i am . .

t h i n k  a b o u t  i t  i f  y o u  c a n

i donʼt know why zen attracts the most unread, boring stupid people who feel impelled to tell me how wonderful they are and how upsetting to them i am . .

ewk asks the 7th patriarch

“ oh, great master ,  what is  THE DILEMMA OF EXISTING ”

a rather intelligent question for the rotund blob paying homage in front of him, tea still in one hand and a rather dated pizza in the other, how does he manage it the 7th patriarch wondered ?

with an eye on the stenographer in the corner he replied

endless endless endless endless and what do we do with endless

we drop out and we drop in

THE DILEMMA OF EXISTING

endless endless endless endless and what do we do with endless

we

D

R

O

P

out

or

in

endless endless endless endless and what do we do with endless

we

D

R

O

P

out

or

in

THE DILEMMA OF EXISTING

endless endless endless endless and what do we do with endless

we

d

r

o

p

out

or

in

endless endless endless endless and what do we do with endless

we

d

r

o

p

out

or

in

endless endless endless endless and what do we do with endless

we

drop

out

or

in

walking in natural surrounds is meditation and doesnʼt damage the knees !

walking is meditation and doesnʼt damage the knees !

zenmonki, you are associated with antaiji ?

dogen should have got more of that hot summer sun on his skin and dried   in the sun for vitamin D over winter !

looks nice but i donʼt think you could drag me in to a zen center/monastery again !

got some sort of allergy rise just looking at those  videos ,  too much energy just to stay in one place ?

perosnally i am confident of the quality of what i write, it will last and be seen !

“ Obvious troll is obvious ”

 oblivious cretin is oblivious !


i have a bar of lindtʼs  "excellence"  90% cocoa on the top shelf of the fridge, every time i open the door, i get an eyeful of it . .

i have decided that in the end between chocolateʼs natural toxicity, possible heavy metals, habituation and burn and crash effect that its just not worth it

so every time i look, i think  N  O

it seems to be working, a sort of effective desensitization technique that would also work for other "substances"  ?

 horse carousel, cream studios?

shouldnʼt the horse be leaping into an ember fire, as we all know, this business is about wrong turnings, the real rumi and murdered cohort shams - i - tabrizi say this ! says this !

thereʼs no understanding outside fluidity ! :o)

thatʼs what the world says and you can observe !

thereʼs no understanding outside fluidity ! :o)

thatʼs what the world says and you can observe

thereʼs no understanding outside fluidity ! :o)

thereʼs no understanding outside fluidity !

thereʼs no understanding outside fluidity

the net is a vehicle for  "frictionless pretense"  that is, a perpetual motion machine for nonsense !

the moment you introduce "friction" in the system it all falls apart !

the net is a vehicle for  "frictionless pretense"  that is, a perpetual motion machine for nonsense !

the net is a vehicle for  "frictionless pretense"  that is, a perpetual motion machine for nonsense

commercial success, i would if i could ,  but i canʼt so i donʼt !

: o )

commercial success, i would if i could, but i canʼt so i donʼt !

: o )

commercial success, i would if i could, but i canʼt so i donʼt !

commercial success, i would if i could, but i canʼt so i wonʼt !

: o )

commercial success, i would if i could, but i canʼt so i wonʼt !

you shuffle words like cards, no inner coherence, developing that inner coherence is what real zen is about . .

one can pretend  f o r e v e r  of course !

a  relative  w r i t e s

hi andy, worried about your writing, you are wasting your talents, please could you write positive thoughts, what about going for a walk everyday and writing about what you see ,  its amazing whatʼs going on out there!

i loved hearing about the cats sneaking in to be by your fire out of the rain and cold.

everymorning wake up and say its good to be alive im glad to be here, what is happening around me ?

Its very important to write positively, no backbiting, its degrading to you!

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basically with writing one is looking for effect and intelligence and that takes it out of the realm of social nicety and convention, i was very interested to see karl ove knausgaard say something to the same effect !

life is underlyingly bitter, too heavy a topic to take up in the family context, hence family reactions to quality writing are usually adverse !

i write to explore life and myself, not conceal it !

feral cats are interesting some of them really have  "domestic"  inside of their brains, the little black kitten is always on the doorsill waiting for any chance to get and and is a very reluctant leaver !

note :  karl ove knausgaard is a serious writer  (norwegian)  having great commercial success at the moment, well worth a search on the web on, he does good interviews !

bright moonlight looks like

day

but it doesnʼt have the

warmth of day

mackowski tells me this is not a  koan

my

r e p l y

its better than most koans, indivisible !

not like drugs which are divisible !

“ sickly sweet ”  is like a coin, you turn it over and it becomes  “ sour puss ”  !

“ sickly sweet ”  is like a coin, you turn it over and it becomes  “ sour puss ”

sickly sweet is like a coin, you turn it over and it becomes sour puss

whatʼs the point of telling a dull witted person they are dull witted ? !

whatʼs the point of telling a dull witted person they are dull witted ! ?

whatʼs the point of telling a dull witted person they are dull witted ?

whatʼs the point of telling a dull witted person they are dull witted

“ internet unreality syndrome ”

internet unreality syndrome

try mixing your aggression with a few brains  !

try mixing your aggression with a few brains !

try mixing your aggression with a few brains

lame brains limp to reddit to their debbit and reddits credit

lame brains limp to reddit to their debbit and reddits debbit or credit

this is something i come across endlessly, people who think poetry is something only dead people write so excusing themselves from any creative endeavor or acknowledging it in others

this is something i come across endlessly, people who think poetry is only something dead people write so excusing themselves from any creative endeavor or acknowledging it in others

sanity  eschews  haikus

which are just

your imagination !

sanity eschews haikus

which are just

your imagination !

celibacy by obesity  !

celibacy by obesity  !

celibacy by obesity  !

celibacy by obesity !

celibacy by obesity

ah the vanity of the self righteous ! : o(

ah the vanity of the self righteous !

ah the vanity of the self righteous

with aluminium canned drinks, you actually drink from a coating in contact with a liquid and not aluminium !

ewk why not write about how you managed to take an hours break from the computer, walked for more than ten minutes, ate something else besides pizza and cereal and drank something other than tea

you are just coming across as a slightly demented old fool !

r e a l l y !

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is this what the future holds for you, an angry demented old man ?

“ Sometimes Iʼll emasculate you, I say, I wonʼt mean too, but Iʼll totally do it because thatʼs what I learned.  I donʼt even mean it, but it will hurt ”

laya martin, best  advertisement  (her post on the right)  for celibacy ever ! : o)

what a tangled ratsnest of hopes and illusions threaded through by too much brutality and fake sentimentality all around !

lev gumilyov  (anna ahkmatovaʼs son) was  right  after all !

dogen upsets people because of his visionary mysticism !

not your pizza and banana flavoured milkshake reality !

he also was celibate and in his later writings gave no hope for lay people to ever develop any sort of understanding, a fact r/zen and the whole ,  manic fornicating zen establishment bears the truth of !

rumi reads quite a bit different in his original writing, the translations the public likes  (coleman banks)  are sickly sweet, in fact rumi is drier, more abstruse and literary !

if you think rumi has things right, his son murdered rumiʼs best friend and himself a renowned mystic

lots going on in that persian world !

well she has her  audience

sheʼs very english actually !

thereʼs something to her, more than a bit screwed on the semantic pragmatic front though !

bright moonlight looks like

day

but it doesnʼt have the

warmth of day

i was out hunting last night at midnight, the moon was bright although about mid wanning gibbous

really bright but jeez it was cold, a hard frost !

i had changed from lead free to winchester primers, four shots, four wallabies, though the last shot was taken with an unseen cattle beast too close concealed by the mist !

gutted and butchered two wallbies very early morning, the other two i will do today, cats already fed from last nightʼs ones !

the wallabies around here are in plague proportions and need to be culled !

bright moonlight looks like

day

but it doesnʼt have the

warmth of day

bright moonlight looks like

day

but it doesnʼt have the

warmth of day

bright moonlight looks like day

but it doesnʼt have the warmth of day

when you enter something start to leave   !

‘ when you enter something start to leave  ! ’

another of lifeʼs one way streets, leaving is easier said than done !

“ when you enter something start to leave  ! ”

another of lifeʼs one way streets, leaving is easier said than done !

when you enter something start to leave  !

when you enter something start to leave

when you enter something start to leave it  !

when you enter something start to leave it !

when you enter something start to leave it

when you enter something prepare to be leaving it  !

when you enter something prepare to be leaving it !

when you enter something prepare to be leaving it

youʼre dishonest in life and you are dishonest on the web  !

 youʼre dishonest in life and you are dishonest on the web  !

youʼre dishonest in life and you are dishonest on the web !

youʼre dishonest in life and you are dishonest on the web

ewk has an ill informed obsession on the  subject  because dogenʼs visionary approach interferes with his pizza, tea and games world view !

if her ex wants to  talk  to her, he hasnʼt left her in his own mind, so it could be trouble !

there may already be trouble, are your emotions telling you something ?

in your shoes i would go as well, it should give interesting insights !

: o )

what zen master divides the world into right and wrong with no shades of grey  ?

what zen master divides the world into right and wrong with no shades of grey ?

what zen master divides the world into right and wrong with no shades of grey

no meditative inquiry, no self awareness  !

no meditative inquiry, no self awareness  !

no meditative inquiry, no self awareness  !

no meditative inquiry, no self awareness !

no meditative inquiry, no self awareness

ewk, youʼre like an avatar, donʼt you have real feelings and thoughts ?

lost in the land of make believe ?

youʼre like an avatar, donʼt you have real feelings and thoughts ?

lost in the land of make believe ?

ewk, what zen master  yelped   “ protect me mods! ”

cats get cut in half, a finger gets cut off, pit bulls roam the yard . .

where do you think you are ?

you  can  p r e t e n d   t o   y o u r s e l f   !

you  can  p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f  !

you  can  p r e t e n d   t o   y o u r s e l f   !

you  can  p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f  !

you  can  p r e t e n d   t o   y o u r s e l f

you can p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f   !

you can p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f  !

you can p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f  !

you can p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f  !

you can p r e t e n d  t o  y o u r s e l f

from  ‘ Zen and Zen Classics ’ ,  volume three by R.H. Blyth

One day a monk came along, and, not knowing it was Yuefeng, asked him the way to Yuefengʼs room

Yuefeng took off his sandal and hit the monk on the head with it

The monk ran off

Yuefeng called after him  “ Your reverence! ” 

The monk turned his head

“ Thatʼs the way to it ”  Yuefeng said, pointing at him !

Yuefeng took off his sandal and hit ewk on the head with it

ewk being rotund and greasy, rolled away !

Yuefeng called after him ,  “ You stupid arsehole ! ”

 ewk winced and a visible shudder went through that fat blab of rolling pork ! !


sepehr    w r i t e s

A lot of people here are confused by user/zaddar1ʼs  (andrew)  unconventional  style of commenting, so I am going to provide an introduction to the complexity and depth of his thought.  I believe he is genuinely enlightened, but he is purposefully off-putting for a reason

What is zaddar saying  ?

Zaddar isnʼt trying to indoctrinate you with discursive thought.  Instead, what he is doing is three-fold :

1)  he is pushing to break you out of normalcy, or feeling secured with a false sense of stability in oneʼs conventional reality

2)  he wants you recognize your sense of aloneness or solipsism and seek solitude in natural scenery to tacitly apprehend how the  "I"  is illusion, that you are nothing but stability and oscillation

3)  he is encouraging creativity  —  this is harder to understand if you donʼt read good literature or poetry, check the bottom.

Zaddar wants you to respond to him with your own original thought, that emerges spontaneously from your own experience, and not reciting what you've heard elsewhere.  I'm only doing this for people who are utterly confused by him.  There is also a big importance on nutrition and financial stability in his approach

How does zaddar resemble and differ from modern Zen ?

Zaddar does encourage Shikantaza, but he doesnʼt value  "proper posture" ,  which he rightly thinks destroys knees.  To him, Shikantaza first and foremost is about letting thoughts occur and seeing the patterns, letting it dissolve.  You let the thinking patterns breakdown or the mind turn on itself over and over again  —  it has no reference point.  This can be done in strolls in natural scenery, a room, or other settings

How he differs, fundamentally, is his emphasis on creativity and reading high art.  Zaddar believes when one is in solitude and mindful, that the words flow from the scenery, pointing to something deeper this life is a reflection of.  Wang Wei and Han Shan wrote poetry in such states, so you should spit out a diamond too.  Emily Dickinson and many other poets were enlightened too in Zaddarʼs view.  What this requires is constant reading of high art and not wasting your life away in low-caliber art like video games or manga

Philosophy is a failing approximation of poetry to Zaddar, for poetry cannot be confined to terse language but has a fluidity that is of the ultimate reality

What does Zaddar think is reality ?

To Zaddar there is no bottom turtle, there is no fundamental ground.  Reality is a recursive process, not a substance, so he is a process philosopher.  His views resemble Derridaʼs who didnʼt accept  "crystalline belief systems"  as conforming to an unstable Becoming in this Universe.  Becoming is recursive in that all dichotomies have  "undecidables",  or  "trace",  and  "indeterminacy",  to use Derridean terms; there is an interweaving movement between presence and absence in the meaning of what you say, and Zen gets to the root of this  "writing forever",  the insufficiency of ever coming to closure.  To Zaddar, enlightenment is found in the quasi-border between the real and unreal, it is a union of both the imaginative and actual world.  Therefore, a Zen Buddhist cannot eschew the phantasmagorical inner word.  The artistic spirit was fundamental to early Zen, and abandoning it is to abandon the path. This is what fundamentally distinguishes Zaddar from contemporary Zen

What is up with Zaddarʼs obsession with celibacy and abstaining from entertainment ?

As Iʼve said, Zaddar places a lot of emphasis on breaking our sense of conventional reality.  Constantly upending our sense of stability is what a Zen Buddhist does because reality is a topsy-turvy, upending Becoming.  Whenever we form a dichotomy and cling to it, it will surely be upended, somehow.  Zen Buddhists were celibate for a reason, in order to allow the mind to be fluid and unhindered

His approach seems too difficult for me !

This path is not for everyone.  This is one reason Zaddar can be rude.  He is tired of people half-assing Zen and making it into a communal thing.  Zen was always more solipsistic and had a sense of individual creativity, such as Joshu.  People have abandoned this and made it into a communal thing, into another religion.  If being celibate, getting daily solitude in natural scenery, doing a lot of Shikantaza, reading good poetry, and so forth seem too much or difficult, then abandon the path or at least take it in a more humble and slow way, realizing everything you do is insufficient like ewk.  This is not a prescription or telling you what to do, but suggestions because you are in this alone, not to show off to others.  Once you realize Infinity ,  you  ‘ get ’  something that can never be taken since you can sip from it a lot.  The ending of Zerkalo becomes common-place in daily life

One Final Note (edit)

There is also a Magical Realism aesthetic to a lot of his own poetry you can read.  His aesthetics resembles the Symbolists and Magical Realists moreso than the Surrealists.  It took me awhile to get this.  I think David Wiesnerʼs artwork is very Zaddar-esque

You can read Zaddarʼs poetry  here

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Heʼs saying poetry of the Greats, such as Wang Wei, is aligned with Infinity.  It has an identity with Infinity.  If one writes from that boundless state, which solitude in natural scenery and/or Shikantaza  (w/o emphasis on  "proper"  posture)  facilitate, then oneʼs poetry is one and the same as Infinity.  It becomes of it since it comes from oneʼs original voice, not parroting or  "proxying"  (as he says)

There is a level of art that is  "Zen"  in nature.  The Germans call it  "Kunstreligion"

people who drink a lot of tea seem to have some sort of mild dementia, or maybe not so mild, its not as harmless as is made out imo !

ewk, you washed all your neurons down the drain with tea  !

ewk, you washed all your neurons down the drain with tea !

ewk, you washed all your neurons down the drain with tea


what evolution and learning theory are about are the metas evolving from the pragmatic, same with zen, you canʼt get the evolving metas without doing the work

but the idiots just pile in thinking they know and understand the theory . .

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ziggah gives quite a reasonable definition of  meta

General overview of a time and place, invented in ancient Greece

Meta  ( from the Greek preposition and prefix meta-  (μετά-)  meaning  "after",  or  "beyond" )  is a prefix used in English to indicate a concept which is an abstraction from another concept, used to complete or add to the latter

what evolution and learning theory are about are the metas evolving from the pragmatic, same with zen, you canʼt get the evolving metas without doing the work

but the idiots just pile in thinking they know and understand the theory . .

drugs, alcohol, bullshit, check all three ?

the usual reddit trio !

drugs, alcohol, bullshit, check all three ?

the usual reddit trio

drugs, alcohol, bullshit, check all three

the usual reddit trio

suicide note : tired of a mean world

we all find it this way

could it be any other way

no

not if its going to exist ! :o(

suicide note  :  tired of a mean world

we all find it this way

could it be any other way

no

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just a drop in the bucket of the storm of life

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just a drop in the bucket of the storm of life

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just a drop in the bucket of the storm of life

A

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just a drop in the bucket of the storm of life

anger, just a drop in the bucket of the storm of life

manʼs super competent technology and thought all pale compared to that almost blind idiot, evolution  !

manʼs super competent technology and thought all pale compared to that almost blind idiot, evolution !

manʼs super competent technology and thought all pale compared to that almost blind idiot, evolution

manʼs super competent technology and thought all pale compared to that blind idiot, evolution  !

manʼs super competent technology and thought all pale compared to that blind idiot, evolution !

manʼs super competent technology and thought all pale compared to that blind idiot, evolution

man may be proud of his technological efforts but evolution already has a parasite for them, women  !

man may be proud of his technological efforts but evolution already has a parasite for them, women

man may be proud of his technological efforts but nature already has a parasite for them, women  !

man may be proud of his technological efforts but nature already has a parasite for them, women

if you start to look at her as a person, rather than a lover, things will fall into place for you !

if you start to look at her as a person, rather than a lover, things will fall into place for you

the less you have to do with people, the better youʼll get along with them  !


the less you have to do with people, the better youʼll get along with them

the less you have to do with people, the better you get along with them  !

the less you have to do with people, the better you get along with them

writing is not the context of  polite company ,  but an intense dialogue between you and the reader  !

uncensored thought actually

writing is not the context of  polite company ,  but an intense dialogue between you and the reader

uncensored thought actually

writing is not the context of  polite company ,  but an intense dialogue between you and the reader  !

uncensored thought really

writing is not the context of  polite company ,  but an intense dialogue between you and the reader

uncensored thought actually

writing is not the context of  polite company ,  but an intense dialogue between you and the reader

uncensored thought really

jason writes :   i tried coconut flour and it didnʼt cook well

thereʼs voynichated fiction and de-voynichated fiction  !

:  o  (  )

thereʼs voynichated fiction and de-voynichated fiction  !

thereʼs voynichated fiction and de-voynichated fiction !

thereʼs voynichated fiction and de-voynichated fiction

“ one day the world honored one ascended his raised chair

manjushri struck the gavel and said  ‘ clearly behold the dharma of the king of dharma;  the dharma of the king of dharma is thus ’

the world honored one then got down off the raised chair ”

“ one day the world honoured one ascended his raised chair ”

ewk and muju for once in agreement and muju was shall we say, a bit  “ manic ” ,  sneaked up behind him and garrotted him !

manjushri struck his gravel and said ,   behold the dharma of actuality 

 the reddit zen audience being the product of necrophilia wanked as usual ! !

jason  a s k s

does ultraviolet light go through clothes ?  say iʼm wearing a long sleeved shirt, will the sunʼs rays still affect me ?

letʼs say the uv from the sun is 50 iu/min, if only you head is showing to the sun, are you still going to receive 50 iu/min ?

do you mix your vegetables or do you usually stick with one vegetable for meals ?  same question regarding fruits

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thereʼs two sorts of uv, uvb which makes vitamin D and uva which doesnʼt

uvb never goes through clothes, uva will go through in inverse proportion to the degree of shade the clothes provide but it doesnʼt take much shade for the uva to be stopped completely, internal reflection of the material is also an important factor, like white has a lot of internal reflection but black has none !

your sun at midday at this time of year would be more like 65 iu/minute and the amount of vitamin D the body makes from that is proportional to the skin area exposed, whole body naked that would be about 300??  iu per minute with your skin colour, and say about 10%  of that for just the head, about 30iu per minute

i think you need about 3 different veges for a meal  (one coloured with a pigment like red, orange, yellow or purple) ,  fruit can be mixed, but doesnʼt have to be !

i peel and remove the seeds of apples and pears now, reduces the phenols and pectin !

and then i cook them !

jason  replies

tough to think of legal vegetables with those colors

youʼre still against purple cabbage ?  and you arenʼt pressure cooking carrots ?

your legality page listed dates as somewhat illegal, I had some rolled dates in shredded coconut from the market, so good

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yeah i have to say i am against cabbage

i pressure cook carrots so they are well cooked to the point of softness

the shredded coconut acts as an  “ anti-biofilmic ”

in english  “ donʼt proxy  ,  but that is too  frightening  for you !

in english  “ donʼt proxy  ,  but that is too frightening for you !

in english  “ donʼt proxy  ,  but that is too frightening for you

20 years of writing ,  20 years of suicide  !

basically i am saying that writing is a form of suicide  !

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20 years of writing ,  20 years of suicide  !

basically i am saying that writing is a form of suicide  !

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20 years of writing ,  20 years of suicide  !

20 years of writing ,  20 years of suicide

20 years of writing, 20 years of suicide

20 years of writing

20 years of suicide

20 years of writing

20 years of suicide

20 years of writing

20 years of suicide

what good are explanations ?

everything is just meaningless babble

 donʼt be offended

  i want to work hard on this.  never be offended, do you think its possible ?  

the thing is to be more aware of when you are offended and let that insight as to its happening and the circumstances modify your response !

over time you get deep insight as to how shallow our responses are in this respect and in other respects our sense of offense is fully justified, it just doesnʼt pay to blow oneʼs top about it, but be cautious and aware of what one is dealing with ! !

sorta  “ zen ”  street smarts if you will !

people who offend you will deal with you badly if they can !

the mad are mad because like the deaf to hearing and the blind to sight they cannot cognitively manage new truths !

the horrible snarling mess that emerges is their life !

the mad are mad because like the deaf to hearing and the blind to sight they cannot cognitively manage new truths !

the horrible snarling mess that emerges is life !

the mad are mad because like the deaf to hearing and the blind to sight they cannot cognitively manage new truths !

when you are drawn too completely into something, i think you have to avoid it completely for a while to recover a sane distance !

when you are drawn too completely into something, i think you have to avoid it completely for a while to recover a sane distance

when you are drawn too completely into something, i think you have to avoid it completely for a while to recover a healthy distance !

when you are drawn too completely into something, i think you have to avoid it completely for a while to recover a healthy distance

emily dickinson is not real  estate

a good  article  on emily dickinson and her skills and interests as a gardener and naturalist

whatʼs the good of telling a madman heʼs mad ?

whatʼs the good of telling a mad man heʼs mad ?

  they say that  “ time assuages ”  –

  time never did  assuage  –

an actual suffering

strengthens

   as sinews do, with age  –

time is a test of

  trouble  –

  but not a remedy  –

if such it prove, it

prove too

there was no malady  –

if you have lived with vacant stupidity ,  nothing is going to remedy that now  !

if you have lived with vacant stupidity ,  nothing is going to remedy that now  !

if you have lived with vacant stupidity ,  nothing is going to remedy that now

if you have lived with vacant stupidity ,  nothing is going to remedy that now

if you have lived with vacant stupidity nothing is going to remedy that now

ewk, there is an empty sterility to you ,  the life of a vacuous man who has spent too long in the comfort of his own thoughts  !

ewk, there is an empty sterility to you ,  the life of a vacuous man who has spent too long in the comfort of his own thoughts !

ewk, there is an empty sterility to you ,  the life of a vacuous man who has spent too long in the comfort of his own thoughts

ewk, there is an empty sterility to you ,  a vacuous man who has spent too long in the comfort of his own thoughts  !

ewk, there is an empty sterility to you ,  a vacuous man who has spent too long in the comfort of his own thoughts !

ewk, there is an empty sterility to you ,  a vacuous man who has spent too long in the comfort of his own thoughts

zakaj ,  my strongest advice to you is not to learn sanskrit, you already know too many languages, it has used up too much of your brain

my strongest advice to you is not to learn sanskrit, you already know too many languages, it has used up too much of your brain

zakaj ,  my strongest advice to you is not to learn sanskrit, you already know too many languages, its used up too much of your brain

my strongest advice to you is not to learn sanskrit, you already know too many languages, its used up too much of your brain

you have to be careful with soy, it has digestive enzyme inhibitors !

iʼve seen people in zen centers whose health has been damaged by it !

mostly i have gone through life with people telling me i am an idiot !

they still do !

mostly i have gone through life with people telling me i am an idiot !

they still do

mostly i have gone through life with people telling me i am an idiot

they still do

zakaj  w r i t e s

The Bible says  “ Its either God or Money ! ”

Well I split my reading into two categories

God, and Money  .  .  .

Can one do both, Andrew ?

Most mystics and spiritual masters of the past said :  “ Nope ! ”

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the mysticʼs experience is too bitter to be embraced willingly

when you read, you should mostly follow your own interest, if its interesting, read it, if its not donʼt !

however donʼt get caught in the trap of pissing time away with mindless junk, which unfortunately is the usual !

mountain rain patters against my window and beats asubtle rhythm  — 

just like the billowing ocean writhing against my ship

page   252

the giant hills move aside

mazu  peeks  out

“ i never claimed to be the seventh patriarch

leave me in peace

and btw ewk, you have been pencilled in as a stick insect in your next rebirth ”

the hillsfold back

well zen has no real humans ,  just retarded frauds as you may have noticed  !

well zen has no real humans ,  just retarded frauds as you may have noticed  !

well zen has no real humans ,  just retarded frauds as you may have noticed

well zen has no real humans, just retarded frauds as you may have noticed

i have always been careful to never own a tv because i spend too much time watching it  !

i have always been careful to never own a tv because i spend too much time watching it  !

i have always been careful to never own a tv because i spend too much time watching it

a linji quote or  “how to garble”

the   ‘ record of linji ’  was not completed until 250 years after his death !

sometimes I first illumine and then function;  sometimes I first function and then illumine.  sometimes illumination and function are at the same time, and sometimes illumination and function are not at the same time

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sometimes i think about or discuss it and then do it, other times i do it then think about it !

sometimes i think as i do it, other times i need space between them

love the obfuscation donʼt you

iʼm starting to realise all the people in so called  "zen"  are fucking lunatics, playing a game of making common sense obscure so they can pretend they understand something others donʼt !

c r a z y   c r a z y   c r a z y

i have always wondered why i was quite keen on connie nakaʼs  blog

then you see something that is very very different !

“ why do you write ?

the answer to that question wells up from a place where i go .  .  .  that no one else  (but god)  can access.  that probably sounds strange to some and yet others are nodding their heads ”

“ but the peonies at mount auburn cemetery are  already  blooming while the late-leafing oaks ease into green ”

i remember walking around the mt. auburn cemetry in autumn all those years ago, if you hadnʼt mentioned it, i would never have thought of it again !

lol some of us are peonies, others are autumn leaves ! : o)

i just see it said over and over again  here ,  that its the bad relationships that there is no closure for ever !

its more you are a possible  backstop  if the current guy doesnʼt pan out !

heʼs a   reconnection   but if it hasnʼt worked out once, it wonʼt work out again

thatʼs one lesson i learnt ! :o)

the way women treat exʼs is like how men treat old cars, still useful if handled the right way  !

the way women treat exʼs is like how men treat old cars, still useful if handled the right way !

the way women treat exʼs is like how men treat old cars, still useful if handled the right way

with women, exs are like men and their old cars, still useful if handled right !

with women, exs are like men and old cars, still useful if handled right !

with women, exs are like men and their old cars, still useful if handled right

with women, exs are like men and old cars, still useful if handled right

with women, exs are like men and their old cars, still useful if handled the right way !

with women, exs are like men and old cars, still useful if handled the right way !

human history stretching back 2000 years seemed so old !

its

just

  nothing  !

wumen huikai is an hallucination !

whereas the 6th, 7th partriarchs and joshu are real

you keep company with frauds ewk !

wumen huikai is an hallucination

whereas the 6th, 7th partriarchs and joshu are real

you keep company with frauds ewk

ewk, did it ever occur to you that you will be in the zen records in two hundred years as the  fall  guy in my writing ?

ewk, did it ever occur to you that you could be in the zen records in two hundred years as the  fall  guy in my writing ?

if only heʼd learn to make sense instead of just writing nonsense !

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if only heʼd learn to make sense instead of just writing nonsense !

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if only heʼd learn to make sense instead of just writing nonsense !

if only heʼd learn to make sense instead of just writing nonsense

someone asked  :   who is the master of birushana buddha ?

joshu said  :   you are the pupil

ewk  replied

to rephrase ,  who is the teacher of the first buddha ?

zhaozhou/joshu  :   you are the pupil

in other words, you, yourself, are the first buddha

lol

 heʼs a live wire !

my

r e p l y

quoting ewk  :   to rephrase ,  who is the teacher of the first buddha ?

ewk, youʼre not enlightened so have got it wrong, what can i say ?

my  retranslation

  who  masters  infinity  ?

joshu  replies

you  not  you

 now that takes enlightenment you overweight, tea doused fraud !

“ buddha is a dried shit stick ”  just means all that fairy proxying into buddhism and the sutras is just dried shit !

“ buddha is a dried shit stick ”  just means all that fairy proxying into buddhism and the sutras is just dried shit

at the administration or most senior social hierarchical positions ,  japan has always  “taken the cake”

storing spent fuel rods on the roof of the reactor at fukushima

japan led in wwll by an emperor and admiral who didnʼt believe they could win

not developing its already advanced nuclear bomb program in WW2, but sinking a huge portion of its resources into giant, waste of time submarines

zen monastic training turning out samarized cretins

perversion  of dogen, who was when all is said, a gentle soul !

eiheiji is the mentality that fed soto zenʼs support of the nanking massacre and the funding of several zero fighters !

its a regime designed to suppress the sex drive of young men who are only there because its necessary to inherit the family business

stupidly brutal !


a small bat hibernating

in the

woodpile

stretched

out

along

the

wood

not

exactly

deluxe

bedding !

the bat was likely a  ‘ large forest ’ ,  still tiny, about 7cm long and very black, hidden under bark and its little limbs pressed hard again the linear ridges of the split wood, didnʼt look comfortable !

a small bat hibernating

in the

woodpile

stretched

out

along

the

wood

not

exactly

deluxe

bedding !

reddit zen, a lot of people with very different opinions about zen determined to impose them on others !

autism and aspergers syndrome co-morbid with psychosis, schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, retardation, dementia, downs syndrome, dwarfism, gigantism, semantic pragmatic disorder   ̱   ̱    ̲ 

the list is endless and no doubt it has always been this way !

the world is more bad than good ,  if you happen to strike some good, stay with it !

the world is more bad than good ,  if you happen to strike some good, stay with it

the world is more bad than good ,  if you happen to strike some good, stay with it

you need some years of stability

time to think and work things out

it took me thirty years to learn what a verb was, iʼm not ready to move onto adverbs yet ! :o)

it took me thirty years to learn what a verb was, iʼm not ready to move onto adverbs yet !

it took me thirty years to learn what a verb was, iʼm not ready to move onto adverbs yet

as far as i can see the japanese monastic system is  designed  to supress the sex drive of young men who donʼt want to be there !

its a farce and outright stupidity, a product of the meiji  "deformation"  of zen !


iʼm definitely getting older, one gets weary and seeks release from the weariness

this whole aging thing is

 .

one is crying all the way to where-ever one is  c r y i n g !

“ fuse the buddha dharma and worldly phenomena  into  one ”

 heterodox  !

jason  w r i t e s

“ asking about my prescriptions, thatʼs not how you make friends, thatʼs how you make enemies ”

good insight to how people feel about talking about their prescriptions

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i remember at tassajara there was this guy who would go into the woods and smoke pot while there, i thought he was definitely wasting his time and just continuing down the same stupid road

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i was outside sitting on a rock, bright night with the full moon, when a coyote about fifty yards away right on the tree line started barking, couldʼve been the same one to have eaten the kids

i thought i heard it thumping around but it was only my heartbeat

seth   a s k s

what are your thoughts on memories or experiences, that feel outside of what we perceive as the norm ?

my entire experience with life leads me to believe that experience and life itself is a sentient being.  but I feel insane to say that

whatʼs your opinion on seeing/experiencing beings or situations that are deemed paranormal ?

my

r e p l y

those are reasonable questions and you have a lot of work ahead of you to put them in a context so they make sense

they are basically questions about the zen/mystical/solipsist viewpoint

the solipsist viewpoint is you are the center of the universe therefore the  "norm"  and what occurs to you is the true reality, this needs to be modified with objectivity or one becomes insane !

both need working on, the first by solitary contemplation and the second by quality reading and thinking !

seth   r e p l i e s

what is your opinion on solipsism ?

iʼm generally isolated from most socializing, so i find solipsism to be a very convincing way to view life.  i sometimes believe the universe has a sort of instability, if viewed in a conventional way

when seeing things deemed super natural, do you believe such things have basis in reality ?  or do you think it's more of a subconscious message ?

thank you very much for your reply

my

r e p l y

thereʼs no immediate answers to these sort of questions, i made my suggestions !

the big mistake is people read junk like alan watts instead of emily dickinson !

its a lot of basic solid work and its all an internal discussion with oneself, one doesnʼt get anywhere by discussing it with others !

arguing can become an end in itself ,  no-one is concerned with progressing their understanding ,  but rather seek to impose a viewpoint !

arguing can become an end in itself ,  no-one is concerned with progressing their understanding, but rather seek to impose a viewpoint !

arguing can become an end in itself, no-one is concerned with progressing their understanding, but rather seek to impose a viewpoint !

“ seriously love david foster wallace

his ideas in   ‘ this is water ’  really spiked my interest in eastern ideas such as zen

what a great, troubled, tragic man ”

nothing like suicidal depression for giving you insight !

nothing like suicidal depression for giving you insight !

nothing like suicidal depression for giving you insight

david foster wallace on  “ blind certainty ”

blind certainty  –  a close mindedness that amounts to an imprisonment so  total  that the prisoner doesnʼt even know heʼs locked up


its the death of life

its the

life

of death

its the death

 of life

its the death of life

its the

life of

death

its the death

 of life

its the death of life

its the life of death

its the death of life

so we have the  senile ,  the  schizophrenic  and the  hubric illiterate ,  thatʼs reddit zen

oh and the  retarded

i think  his  involvement has been with trungpa, smokes pot everyday for gut issues, is not well

so we have the  senile ,  the schizophrenic and the hubric illiterate, thatʼs reddit zen

oh and the retarded

i reckon 80% of the people on reddit zen, or even 95% who pontificate about zen have less than zero real life experience of it and donʼt see the necessity . .

like all the highly murderous action adventure war gaming giving you a real life picture of combat i suppose

in the real world zen varies from quite buddhist to not buddhist, but even the buddhism is more like a  “ cover ”  and its core teachings are its own flavour and quite different from the conventional religious  “ proxying ”

also it doesnʼt really have any overall organisation, each teacher is his own pope and thatʼs were the buck stops, people on r/zen without real life experience just have no inkling of this and try to enforce some christian or buddhist organisational or doctrinal schema in the nature of large organised religions !!

approval is central and this really comes strongly across in the records, who approves of who and not who the organisation they are associated with  (if there is any, a lot of the masters were hermits)  approves

r/zen is full of wannabe masters who donʼt approve of each other, hence the friction, but this actually is the way zen works . .