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all
the
pretenders
will
be
stealing
this
stuff
i
bet
when we are
is when the blind is down
is a blind over window looking out onto a lovely garden
when the blind is pulled up, that is ourselves out of the way
the lovely radiance of the garden flows in warming and illuminating all
when we are
infinity
is
not
life is a dream and the real is a dream within a dream
it's still real
but its a dream within a dream
infinity is the true intensity against which all of this is measured
real is just another form of imagination
andrew :
i am not even sure that the notion of “ healing ” is a valid perspective
eileen :
wrong word
more accepting of i guess i mean or the realization its useless to twist and turn on the end of the rope
just cuts deeper
andrew :
when one gets more distanced from oneself its apparent that theres no-one to be hurt
in the end
we are just disembodied ghosts floating through
if
we
don't
have
a computer
we
don't
have
a relationship
its
sorta
like
that
a
bit
weird
constancy
of
change
is
about
the
only
certainty
anyway poetry
fun and not Lol
its like a breath of fresh air, you being frank in a witty way
maybe i can appreciate sarcastic wit more now
we
all
lead
very
flawed
lives
the depth
of
the
flaws
is
staggering
isn't
zen
like
everything
else
some
sort
of
illusion
or
grasping ?
you
are
not
standing
on
solid
ground
that
is
the
illusion
it's women
that
choose
men
not
the
other
way around
you
may
think
you
are
top of
the food
chain
being
male human
but women are
and then children are
eating both
parents in turn
men
are
the
prey
of
women
the
minimum
is always
occurring
maybe
humans are one species
for which it
doesn't
occur
yet
from
a certain
perspective
it is
also
occurring for
humans
philosophy
of
the
minimum
never do
more
than
the minimum
necessary
but do
the minimum necessary
if
you
have
been
dying
all
your
life
you
are
not
so afraid
to die
maybe
its interesting
to
see
the
limitations
of the
english language
apostrophes for
plurals
are
visually dissonant
mostly i leave
them
out
for
this reason
theres
a
whole
art
of
agreeing
with
people
and
not
trying
to
right
the
world
i don't think
a man
can
ever
love
a woman
enough
from
a
woman's
point
of view
i
think
i
am
finally
“getting”
spread
too
thin
i
am
not
getting
a
lot
done
you
can't
service
the
needs
of
others
and
make
progress
yourself
i think
the
surest
sign
that
the catholic church
is
in
a
state of
dramatic
decline
is
it
is becoming
distinctly more schizophrenic
including
the
pope!
if
something
goes
wrong
and
you can
get through
it
with
minimal damage
its
better
it
occurred
because
you
will
have learnt
the
questions
asked
begging
instruction
the
replys
carefuly
posed
devoid
of
whole
truths
to
ensure
this
one
will
stay
you
ever
find
the
“whole
truth”
let me know
there
may
not be
a market
for
it
but
at
least
i
would
know
it
exists
have
found
what
i
thought
were
whole
truths
only to discover
each
whole
truth
is many fold
the
price
of
access
to
infinity
is
going
against
the
grain
and
work
when
i
became
successful
all
i did
was
get
busy
my
life
passed
in
a blurr
of busy-ness
its
too
much
when
you
actually
drop
something
don't
get
upset
over
what
you
have
no
control
of
if
life
has
one
law
its
that
exclusive
attention
in
one
area
leaves
you
vulnerable
in
other
areas
let it
be
too
much
because
if
it
is
too
much
then
its
going
to
stay
that
way
too
much
i still can't quite get
how
much
&^%$king
work
computers
are
to
keep
running
in
the
same spot
one of the things
about being on autistic spectrum
is
you
always
get
your
portion
of
hell
tiger woods is on spectrum
and
i think
he
is getting
his
portion
now
string theory is really a very different understanding of the universe from what we have been taught
basically the teaching has been it all began with the big bang and there was nothing before
now it looks like universes come into being and disappear as these "branes" collide and move back and forth
eileens comment:
i've often wondered if it isn't a bit like ribbons running next to each other sort of with different universes/dimensions that sometimes touch each other
or like paths although i don't mean set in a physical plane
my reply:
a cycle, old universies collapse to a seed that becomes a new one
yeah ribbons is a good description
andy
warhol
was
not
surrealistic
he
was
a
very
concrete
thinker
why
are
men
so
homophobic?
walt
disney
surrealism
for
the
masses
the
world
is
fundamentally
insane
this
springs
from
the reason
for
its
existance
which
is
fundamentally
insane
a
lot
of
so
called
“great
art”
is cartoon-like
heironymous
bosch
savador dali
i'm
not
saying
its not great
but its cartoon-like
how
sorry
is
“sorry
i got
exasperated
with you”
sorrow
like
eating
an ice cream
or going
on
a holiday?
in judged competitions
the best
never win
its
always
the second
tier
that win
you're
manic
when
you
want
to
run
the school
crossing
sign
lady
over
:o)
just displace the counterproductive activity with productive
especially things that have to be done i find is the best way
the real magus incognito
some late ninteenth/early 20th century drizzle wit
he promoted the very toxic "law of attraction" which is still doing the rounds
i suppose that sort of con artistry has been around for ever in fact
i say “con”, but its meting the deserving with what they deserve
how simple and aggressive humans are !
the
trouble
with
“spiritual circles”
is all the infectivity
from the viral
no
hopers
the south
island
of
new zealand
is
very
beautiful
you
can
wander
there
for
a lifetime
and
perhaps
i should
have
whats
the
difference
between
a thumb
and
a
finger?
its something
i
had
never
thought
about
before
but
a thumb
has one
joint
and
a
finger two
zen
masters
are
pretenders
prison
food
is
a
form
of
execution
philosophy
is
a
step
more
articulated
than
poetry
its
hard
being
artistic
in
an
anti-artistic
world
they
are
a
pretty
dumb
arse
species
humans
half
bowerbird
half
twit
and
half
homicidal
maniac
yeah
i know
three
halves
;o)
when is a man
henpecked?
when
he
looks
at
his
arm
and
theres
bits
of
flesh
missing
its
a
big
mistake
to look
to
the
net
for a social
life
its
all about information
the problem
with
the
net
is
its
like
a
mirror
that
reflects
what
people
want
to see
too
much
men can blather, women i notice are more real about what affects them
when you think
about
humans
and intelligence
think
about the jews
and the
holocast
it
was the deliberate
elimination
of
a more
intelligent
race
a
lot
of
things
can
only
be
understood
by
virtue
of
making
a
mistake
employment
is
basically
a slavery
system
men
ruled
by
women
one
woman
kills
a
man
two
women
kills
him
twice
over
s
w
c
steer
well
clear
theres
always
more
tempting
fruit
on
the
tree
of
sex
the
male
is
female
and
the
female
is
male
men
no
matter
how
much
money
they
make
they
are
still
oxen
looking
for
a
plough
to
yoke
to
you know
you
are
addicted
to
a
computer
when
changing
to
windows
7
is
a
total
life
trauma
its a great trick to hide behind the words of others
say some of your own stuff and we will see how that stacks up
if at all
you are not outclassed here, you are below class
but i have noticed people like you never
realise it
overconfident when facing a firing squad
the bible
90%
plain wrong
9.9999% ambivalent
.00001%
truth
limpet
love
a
female specialty
limpet
love
a
female specialty
an ounce of one's own thinking
is
worth
ten
ounces
of
anyone
else's
jesus said :
if you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you
if you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you will kill you
jesus said , “ if you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. if you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you will kill you ”
when korea was invaded by china by the japanese in the Imjin War (1592-98) a zen/chan monk organised a monk army that helped save korea
the ruler thanked him by keeping zen supressed
when i read this stuff, the penny started to drop about life
rulers and their cliqués only act according to a narrow view
their retention of power
being nobody is special in the eyes of infinity
throwing your life away in the service of others is toxic
its just all little bankers with their investment in learning some sort of spiritual vocabulary
anything that threatens that, they react against
they look at me with the horror of finding someone else with their hands in the cash box
the
absolute
fundamental
mistake
of zen
is
that
this
sort
of
understanding
can
be
transmitted
it
cannot
transmission
is
a load
of cobblers
what zen can do
is create a facility
with plagarism
and the presentation
of the understanding
of others
as
ones
own
and
this
it
does
very well
there's a
lot
of
power
in atheism
but
it can
lead
to
a narrow
minded
destructiveness
cult leaders
need
the elimination
of feedback
to
maintain
the illusion
of
their supremecy
and
of
course
this
kills them
the weird
thing
now
is
in
some
respects
i am
making so
much
progress
so
fast
i
am
getting
wind chill
if
a
man
doesn't
pay
a
high
price
for
love
he
doesn't
value
it
sometimes i get two versions of a poem and put both versions on the page as they each seem to say something a bit different but add to give the right meaning
the price
men
pay
for
sex
they
just
have
no
idea
when you get a poem born like that, its like a baby, you have to accept it pretty much as it is
you can't reenter that creative space
i hardly ever ever make any changes to what i wrote in the first intensity of composing it
thats just something i have found
there is a sorta satisfaction
in getting
a consistent
explanation
as
to
how the world
works
how rare!
not the
satisfaction
but the
consistent
explanation
eternity
is
real
though
manifold
the
way
people
think
theres
no
clarity
just
a
mish
mash
of confusion
theres no
justice
no
“i
told
you
so”
just silence, ignorance
and
the sweet
breath
of
eternity
i
was
a
genius
and
everybody
walked
over
me
yeah!
physics
is
concerned
with the
mutation
of matter
and
time
and
space
it
is
not
concerned
with existance or
non
existance
since physics
itself
would cease
to exist
what
is existance
and
non existance?
writing this
put
me
in
mind of
an
older
poem
i wrote
existing because it can
constrained by possiblity
strung between is and is not
curled within the vastness of inconceivability
enwrapt outside the universe
what do we say?
mistake
after
mistake
just
keep
moving
forward
if you
don't
go
to the movie's
what
do
you
get?
time
and
the
saved
brain
sugars
its unfortunately
something
thats
not taught
who
is greater
edward witten
or
henry
darger
henry darger
chopins
best
work
was
his
most
playful
the
etudes
there is
a
different
perspective
on
music
against
which
most
sounds imperfect
and any
approximation
towards
improvement
is
good
horses
are
a
difficult
animal
you can spend a
lifetime
trying
to get the
hang
of
them
they
just
cost
money
they really do
are
over
confident
about
your
judgement
again
and again
this
is
all
i have
to say
its
a
uniform
hopeless
world
“ i don't want to read this”
what
if
i tell
you
to
go
jump
off
a
cliff
you
don't
have to
go
jump
off
a
cliff
look
you
slimy
twit
why
don't
you
go
and
breed
and
make the
gene pool
even
more
slimy
the
hsin
hsin
ming
is a particularly
toxic
piece
of
zen
patsy
it
has
a subtly
distorted
viewpoint
and just shows
you
how
nice
sounding
shit
can
get
transmitted
down
the centuries
what
meaning
is there
if
we all
die?
there
is
no
meaning
to the
"fatties"
the way you
eat
sucks
the way you supplement
sucks
the way
you
exercise
sucks
you haven't tried everything
you have
only tried
what doesn't work
you do
find
it all
gets colder
as
you
get
older
is that
what is taught is wrong
they take the good brains
of
children
flush them out of the observations of real life that
are
occurring
around them
and filling them with atrocious crap
and wrong
minded problem
solving procedures
are really an invitation to look deeper
and reap the benefit from that
is really
being
able
to juggle a useful
mix
mix
is
will
be
quite
different
to
what
others
think
it
should
be
a lot of stuff i right is only semi personal and is like flows of deeper waters so to speak if you look and allow it
muzak
is
an
anesthetic
its played
in
supermarkets
not
for the
customer
but
to
keep
the staff
crippled
i
think
poems
are
a
form
of
memory
for
the
developmentally
disordered
one
of
the things
to
get
used
to
about writing
on
the
net
is
blank
space
is free
jane
austen
used to write
slant ways across
what she already had
written
to save
paper
my wrong
will
be
righter
than
your
right
ever
was
why is ohio
so
stupid?
low
iodine?
americans
have
a
public
face
that
is
very
feminized
australians
and
new zealanders
the
public
face
is
more
masculine
the poms
of
course
are
simply
bizzare
sex
by
itself
doesn't
work
what
is
hitting
the
newspapers
and
other
companies
as
much
as
anything
is
a
decline
in
personal
compedence
you
just
can't
tell
someone
to
do
something
and
expect
to
make
money
anymore
you
can
sorta
take
three
or
four
steps
whereas
most
people
only
take
one
step
but
you
can
compact
them
so
it
looks
like
one
step
poetry
if
it is
any
good
is universal
human
experience
when self concern
is
in
abeyance
the
heavens
and
earth
are
open
toni packer