Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:35:00 -0500
From: pimann@pobox.com ("Dan Sullivan")
Subject: Re: [libs4peace] Re: I'm against any effort to focus the Libertarian Party toward Peace
To: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com


On 24 Feb 2002,,  hrearden_hr wrote:

> --- In libs4peace@y..., "Dan Sullivan" <pimann@p...>

> wrote: > We should indeed focus, not just on one issue,

> but on > one principle, the non-initiation of force.

> However, > the ultimate violation of that principle is

> the > marauding army laying waste to countries that

> have > offended us. A Libertarian Party that is not >

> consistent and outspoken on that issue has no reason >

> to exist. > > > Dan Sullivan <pimann@p...>

> 

> 

> Do you remember what happened on Sept. 11, 2001? We

> were attacked by terrorists.


I recall that you mentioned that about a dozen times 
on this list. It is like a mantra for you. However, 
this occurred after more than half a century of our 
dominating this region with a heavy hand, overthrowing 
democracies and reinstalling monarchs, backing state 
terrorism against insurgent citizens, fomenting wars 
between neighbors, and, more recently, starving 
hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

Our government is the superpower, and they are subject 
peoples. What you call "terrorism" is the only weapon 
they have, and is akin to cases where black slaves 
rebelled and "murdered" "innocent" white people in 
their attempt to escape. If anything, it should be 
amazing in our eyes, and appalling in theirs, that it 
took them half a century to get America's attention, 
and that nothing short of this desperate and violent 
act was sufficient to do the trick.

> I think it is entirely

> appropriate for the army to take military action

> against those who murdered Americans on U.S.A. soil.


Yes you do, and against any innocent civilians of 
foreign countries who happen to be standing in the 
way. It is mass murder when they do it, and 
"collateral damage" when we do it, even when the 
"collateral damage" is a haf million Iraqi citizens'.

> I

> have not read anything in the LP Platform or Program

> that states that the LP calls for pacifism. The purpose

> of the military is to protect the country from enimies

> who want to murder Americans. Taking offense is not the

> issue, the terrorists who attacked the American people

> on American soil murdered Americans in an act of war.

> That goes way beyond simply offending us.


"Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's 
eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own 
eye?" (Matthew)


Dan Sullivan <pimann@pobox.com>