Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:22:31 -0000
From: rallena3@aol.com ("rallena3")
Subject: [libs4peace] The Bottom Line
To: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com


Now let me see if I have this straight:

The people on the side in question mostly came recently to the area
known as Palestine or Israel during the 20th century.  But a minority
have ancestral roots back into antiquity.  Prior to the 20th century,
their side did not control the region.  Their side has continually
attacked, harrassed, terrorized, and killed people of the other side. 
Their side gets a significant amount of their weaponry from US foreign
aide.  Their side is in desperate need of a homeland and if pushed out
of Palestine/Israel has no place to go (more a political reality than
an actual reality).  Their side, while in charge, has taken land from
people from the other side and given it to their own people.

Oops, I seem to have forgotten whether I was talking about the Jews or
the Palestinians.  From the recent history lessons onthis list I must
have been talking about both.

The Jewish state of Israel is oppressive and does not deserve the
support of freedom loving libertarians.  Any presumed Palestinian
state does not deserve libertarian support either.  I can and will say
the same about the US government and every other government on this
planet.  So what is the problem with saying that both sides are wrong
and demanding that the US government, which is the institution which
is taking taxes from most of us on this list, stop supporting both
sides?  The lesser of two evils is still evil.  Does no one believe in
libertarian ideals anymore?

The state of Israel performs atrocities.  Palestinians perform
atrocities.  There is no excuse for either side.  Palestinian bombings
are nothing more nor less than murder.  Israeli counter-strikes are
nothing more nor less than state-sanctioned murder.  There is no
excuse for either side.  The state of Israel is an oppressive regime. 
All other regimes in the area are oppressive.  The assumption that a
Palestinian regime will be oppressive is hardly unfounded.  There is
no excuse for either side.

I have heard for many, many years that libertarians promote free trade
with all people.  I have heard for many, many years that the US
government should have no entangling alliances.  I have heard for
many, many years that the only legitimate role of government is
self-defense and that getting involved in foreign affairs hardly
constitutes self-defense.  I have heard for many, many years that
libertarians believe that the initiation of force is wrong in all
cases.

I was led by many libertarians over the years to believe in
principles.  We are now in the biggest crisis ever to face
libertarians since our movement became an identity.  It is time to put
up, NOT shut up!  It's time to honor the "liber" in libertarian.

Randy Anderson
Millville, Mn



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