Session Start: Sun May 24 19:05:42 1998
*** Now talking in #browsers
<marty7> now I used Earthlink to get connected and then went to
 mIRC so I didn't use a browser did I?
<marty7> Is ICQ better than mIRC?
<candyman1> And possibly put a fee on it...but no one is talking about it.
<eagel> I am not worrying about it
<marty7> I figure if I can understand IM and mIRC that was enough
<candyman1> no browser is necessary for mIRC
<candyman1> AOL is going to get back its investment and more
<FlorenceF> quite right, pretty hard to be high in the rain
<marty7> what is diff or better with ICQ
<eagel> I like this cause of things like this
<marty7> meaning aol will charge?         
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<eagel> and this 
<marty7> eagel made it go by too fast
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<marty7> marib something
* candyman1 zzzzzz
<candyman1> marbilis.com web page
<FlorenceF> What is all the gibberish on my screen?  Is that
 when you guys are using IRC or ICQ/
<eagel> yes florence
<candyman1> you must be using java  Florence
<eagel> that is a really kewl treehouse
<eagel> that is one of the many benefits of mirc
<FlorenceF> Well, I might as well go practice because I do
 now have either.
<candyman1> java does not show color or graphics
<eagel> no flo
<eagel> we can still do netscape
<FlorenceF> I can't spell either I meant I do not have either
<candyman1> what about NS?
<eagel> no netscape florence?
<marty7> you all disappeared
<marty7> so I left and came back
<eagel> Are there any netscape questions?
<marty7> still asking, what's better with ICQ?
<FlorenceF> I'm working hard on Netscape, though I find Outlook
 Express easier, because I am used to it.
<candyman1> does anyone have a question on netscape?
<eagel> I like the messaging screen system with ICQ
<candyman1> I like ICQ too
<eagel> I use outlook as well for my email Florence
<candyman1> so do 10 million others
<marty7> I haven't been able to put a saved thing into a folder
 but I do have some instructions.
<marty7> this is in bookmarks
<candyman1> F, do you have Netscape?
<eagel> ok in bbookmarks in netscape you cant get it to EDIT
<eagel> you need to create a new folder and stuff like  that
 when you organize
<eagel> like say you wanted to now have a file 
<eagel> for all the urls from this class
<eagel> you would create a new folder named netscape class urls 
<eagel> and then drag all the bookmarks into that folder
<eagel> all this is done in edit bookmarks
<marty7> i can do that much
<FlorenceF> Yes candyman, I have Netscape, and I am on this 
course, because I thought it fair to learn each before I
 decide which is better.
<eagel> ok then what marty
<marty7> I can make folder but can't get the dragging done
<candyman1> what version do you have?
<marty7> 4.04 I think
<candyman1> ok
<eagel> are you there now also Marty?
<candyman1> I haven't made any folders in bookmarks
<eagel> lets do it together I have some that need moving as well
<candyman1> My saved bookmarks are in chronological oder
<eagel> then shall we have a lesson on creating folder
<eagel> and moving files
<marty7> no I just went from Earthlink to mIRC  haven't clicked on NC
<candyman1> which is bad because there is no grouping
<eagel> is there some reason you did them that way cm?
<eagel> I agree
<candyman1> no 
<eagel> then you also need to do this CM
<Jayne> yes i think that would be good,, creating folders
<candyman1> I was to busy to set up folders
<candyman1> at the time
<eagel> ok first you all need to get this screen onto the desktop 
<eagel> can everyone do that?
<Jayne> done
<candyman1> but I plan to set up folders and group like BM's 
in folders
<eagel> k
<FlorenceF> I don't know how?
<eagel> ok to place this screen on to your desktop do this
<eagel> 1. in the upper left hand corner of this screen next to
 the word #browsers
<eagel> 2. cklick in the grey box
<eagel> 3. click on desktop and that will put a check mark next
 to desktop
<eagel> 4. no in the upper right hand of the main mirc window
<eagel> 5. click on the - next to the box and X
<eagel> .6 that will minimize the main mirc window
<eagel> 7. leaving this window here for you to see
<eagel> done
<eagel> now open a netscape window
<eagel> and click on the double boxxes between the - and the X in 
the upper 
<eagel> right hand of the screen
<eagel> then you will be able to go to the edge of the screen and 
get the double headed arrow to come up
<eagel> that is the resize arrow
<eagel> you can also move the screen around by grabbing onto the
 blue tool bar on the top
<eagel> ok now with the netscape window click on bookmarks
<Marty8> i lost you all
<eagel> ok where are you marty?
<Marty8> seems when I click on something everything goes away
<eagel> is there 1 or 2 squares between the - and X in the upper 
right of the screen?
<eagel> where you minimize
<eagel> and close X
<eagel> where you minimize -
<eagel> and go to split screen and full screen
<FlorenceF> I am trying to write this down, but I lose the 
screen when I try to do it.  Eagel would you put this on e-mail for me?
<eagel> yes for sure 
<Marty8> me too
<eagel> and I will tell you how to log later if you want also 
so you dont have to write anything down
<eagel> these will also be posted at 
<eagel> Eagel's Nest- the URL for study groups info at
<eagel> http://members.tripod.com/~MCW_2/EagelsNest/en
<Marty8> when I go to netscape navigator it fills screen
<eagel> is there 1 or 2 squares between the - and X in the 
upper right of the screen?
<eagel> click on the double boxes between the - and X
<eagel> that will make it moveable
<eagel> then there will only be 1 box(screen)snowing between
the - and the X
<Marty8> now I have both NN and browser on desktop
<eagel> I understand what you are going through trying to get 
this set up
<eagel> dont get flustered but it is really important I think to
 know how to do this to get the most usage out of your puter
<Marty8> when I click on bookmarks they cover the screen
<eagel> ok the do the same thing to the bookmark screen
<eagel> I have mine with the bookmarks across bottom
<eagel> with this one above
<eagel> and minimize the netscape screen also 
<eagel> so you only have this and bookmarks open
<Marty8> my bookmarks cover the screen, how can you - them?
<eagel> click on the double box(screens)in the upper right
<eagel> and resize 
<eagel> with arrow
<eagel> like we did with other screens
<eagel> all screens can have this done to them
<eagel> no I take that back
<Marty8> my bm screen doesn't have - to minimiz
<eagel> some function windows you can't resize
<eagel> no not minim bm
<eagel> just the browser screen
<FlorenceF> I'm still here but lost.   When I made the screen 
its default size, I ended up with 2 screens so I close the 
extra one & came back.  I just can't learn this, I really need to read it first.
<eagel> ok Flo
<Marty8> ok I have 2 screens, this and nsc
<eagel> I will be on all night and tomorrow
<eagel> read and if you still have questions you can find me around
<FlorenceF> Is there somewhere I can read up on how to do this?  
Netscape's help is the pits.
<eagel> ok make this screen cover the top half of your screen 
<eagel> and the netscape window cover the bottom half
<eagel> I hate netscapes help
<eagel> yes florence read these logs
<eagel> and if you can ever find anything in net help
<eagel> there 
<eagel> but like we said net help is the pits
<eagel> and it takes forever to load
<eagel> and it is too big
<eagel> and I hate frames
<Marty8> where to get log
<eagel> ok now with these 2 screen split you are going to 
open bookmarks BUT it will probably cover this whole screen Dont panic
<Marty8> how did I change from marty7 to 8?
<eagel> you can resize it to fill the bottom half of your screen
<eagel> you dont need to see the browser screee now
<Marty8> Ok, I have these 2 on right hand side so it only covers part
<eagel> dont know marty maybe wne we split
<eagel> ok are we ready to continue now with bookmarks and this open
<Marty8> k
<eagel> click on edit
<eagel> just a sec
<candyman1> Flo   what is your email address?
<FlorenceF> ffowlie@direct.ca
<candyman1> and Marty7 also
<Marty8> mmesserly@earthlink.net
<eagel> cm are you going to send logs?
<candyman1> another Canadian !
<eagel> Thanks!
<eagel> not to me to them
<Jayne> watch it candy  *S*
<candyman1> thanks you two
<eagel> ok now you see a screen with lots of flags and folder
<FlorenceF> Of course candyman.  A west coast Canadian at that.
<eagel> my top line says Bookmarks for......
<eagel> hilight that line and
<Marty8> so does mine
<eagel> 1 go to file
<eagel> 2.new folder
<eagel> 3. a popup box will appear give file name
<candyman1> eagel, I am going to send emails to Flo and Marty 
with the URL's for netscape FAQ
<eagel> great idea
<candyman1> it may be a help
<eagel> there are also some listed in the url file at nest and 
other tips as well
<Marty8> click ok?
<eagel> yes 
<eagel> clik ok
<eagel> now look down your list for a file to go in that file
<eagel> sorry had to look far
<eagel> hilight it and hold down button
<eagel> drag up to the folder and let go
<eagel> if you are on another page just move slowly up
<eagel> it will scrool
<eagel> you will now see that url in the new folder
<Marty8> it's below it
<eagel> now do you want to change the name of that url so you can 
remember in a year what it is?
<eagel> yes thats correct marty
<eagel> to change the name of a bookmark
<eagel> 1. hilight the bookmark
<eagel> 2.click on edit in the word bar
<eagel> 3. click on properties
<eagel> in the hilighted box change name
<eagel> description is always optional
<eagel> always remember to hit ok after making any changes
<Marty8> finally I did it. Now to move other things
<eagel> yup
<Marty8> and remember how I did it.
<Marty8> Thanks a whole bunch
<eagel> if you want to view them as you go
<eagel> I have to do that with alot cause I forgot what they are
<Marty8> what do you mean by view them
<Marty8> open?
<candyman1> this is good.  Some times when I click Add BM. the bookmark 
does not show a name
<eagel> just double clik on them and they will open in bbrowser window
<Marty8> good
<eagel> now you can give it a name CM
<candyman1> thanks to you eagel
<eagel> this is also where you would inport your bm fron IE
<eagel> go to file/inport
<eagel> import
<eagel> and to add something to the toolbar
<Marty8> i don't use IE much but I do have some bm there
<eagel>  I have had to give my personal toolbar titles only 1 or 2
 letter names
<eagel> too many:)
<eagel> I dont care for IE 
<eagel> locks up on me
<Marty8> i like ns best
<eagel> I know some really like it I use to use it all the time
<eagel> now mostly netscape
<eagel> you use what you know and become familiar with I like different 
thins in each
<eagel> I do like outlook express for mail
<eagel> and dont use netscape mail
<eagel> mostly cause I still cant get it set up
<FlorenceF> Me too!!!!!
<Marty8> IE 3.l doesn't have outlook exp does it?
<eagel> I would like to be able to send from netscape
<Marty8> I use Netscape Communicator and Juno
<candyman1> I think it is easy to send and rec mail from NS
<FlorenceF> I don't think so Marty8, as least I didn't have it on IE3.1
<eagel> cant get stmp and pop right
<eagel> I have used what isp said
<Marty8> what's nest
<eagel> Eagel's Nest- the URL for study groups info at
<eagel> http://members.tripod.com/~MCW_2/EagelsNest/en
<candyman1> You will edit the log and everyone can get it from the nest.
<eagel> this is where all the logs and notes are
<eagel> yes I edit and all can get it there save CM some time
<Marty8> I must go too, this has been most helpful.  You don't know how
 many others who have tried to help me to no avail
<eagel> are we finished are there more questions?
<Marty8> not tonight. gotta try it out thanks again
<FlorenceF> I really should leave too & try again to make mIRC accept
 what I have given it.
Session Close: Sun May 24 20:03:29 1998