Session Start: Tue May 19 18:35:20 1998
* Logging #campus to '5-19-98-html102.log'
*** Zonie changes topic to 'Advanced Web Design: Style and Substance'
<Kayroller> I got some more on my webpage 
<Kayroller> I have great disabled grafics 
<Zonie> I got my memorial day welcomes up : )
<Zonie> what your URL may want to hmmm borrow some : )
<Kayroller> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2821/disability.html
<Zonie> my welcome is on every site : )
<z-kayroller> yes it is she is going to make it tranparent next she said
<AngieDixon> I LOVE that basketball player. Did you do that from scratch, 
Granny? That's GREAT.
<z-kayroller> I gave her a drawing and she scaned it the animated it 
<Granny-Wicked> the link on zonie's site is a great tutorial
<Granny-Wicked> well tell him that his link to frames site is great tutorial
<z-eagel> I dont like frames and I rarely stay where there are frames
<Otter> They are especially annoying if you want to bookmark a site!! 
 It can be done -- but it's a pain!!!
<z-Seraphina> Me too! Nothing worse than trying to bookmark when stuck in frames!
<z-eagel> Too hard for me unless that is the only page I have up and 
can concentrate on that page alone
<z-dowie> I was looking for graphics the other day.  Was stuck in a frame and
<z-dowie> wanted to give credit where it was due.   What a pain to have 
to try to circumvent those frames!
<z-holly> but I wanted to use frames so you could see all my button
 links all the time
<z-holly> I thought this wouldmake it easier to get around
<AngieDixon> I have something I'd like some opinions on. 
If you'll go to http://www.signasoft.com/oliver/development/index.htm, 
then click on the logo in the center.
<anneH> the beta pixelsight is now opened with the new subscription service
<AngieDixon> Sorry the music is so annoying--I need to tone that down.
<AngieDixon> Anyway. On the page AFTER the page with the dancing seahorses, 
does anyone see blue streaks in the logo?
<AngieDixon> I can't see them, I promised to get other opinions.
<AngieDixon> GIF Wizard is incredible. I had a site with 31 photos. 1209 
seconds to load. Got it down to 226 seconds.
<z-jimbird> Angie, I'm getting a Method Post not allowed on that URL.
<z-Granny-Wicked> which logo angie?
<z-Granny-Wicked> the sheri oliver and company?
<AngieDixon> The green oval with the dolphin in it.
<AngieDixon> Sorry.
<z-Granny-Wicked> on the dolphin yes there is a blue green line mid body
<Otter> I don't see any lines in it!
<z-Granny-Wicked> other then that no lines
<z-Granny-Wicked> <-------- viewing with 640 x 480 16 bit color
<z-Granny-Wicked> high color
<Blossom^> i don't see any blue lines in it........
<AngieDixon> Okay, I think the dolphin is supposed to be shaded; the bluish 
streaks (I think) were on the actual green oval. Probably she's either looking 
at an old version (not refreshed)
<z-Granny-Wicked> very possible angie
<AngieDixon> or she's got something going on with her monitor. She said 
if no one else coudl see them,
<Zonie> I don't see no blue streaks in IE4
<AngieDixon> she'd drop it, but I told her I would make sure it wasn't 
MY monitor or MY vision.
<Ghatten> Looks fine here on my monitor
<z-Granny-Wicked> dolphin has white spot on head, and orange near base of tail, 
other then that not bad, a little loose in color here and there, 
but otherwise okay (how you say loosy)
<Otter> 640x480 True color (24bit) -- NS 3.01 -- looks great!!!
<AngieDixon> I've had them magnified 4X in PSP & couldn't see
 anything but teal, but I wanted to be sure.
<Zonie> don't see in NS4
<AngieDixon> We're not talking about the spots on the dolphin. 
I don't even want to discuss the spots on the dolphin.
* z-Granny-Wicked said also useing netscape communicator 4.
<AngieDixon> And if anyone finds fuzzy edges, you're fired.
* z-Granny-Wicked said opps sorry angie
* z-Granny-Wicked looks at only lines, not fuzzies
<AngieDixon> (I'm feeling a little sensitive tonight :>:>)
<Zonie> don't see in NS3
<z-kayroller> I looks great on aol too 
<AngieDixon> Great. Thanks. That should be good enough.
<Ghatten> no fuzzies here LOL
<z-Cammy> Dolphin looks great on Netscape 4
<z-anneH> looks good in netscape 3.04 640x480
<Otter> Great raves Angie!!!!!
<z-anneH> http://beta.pixelsight.com/ has a yearly fee which is a little
 expensive but a bonus is during the beta testing you get
 two to six months extra time before they start the year
<z-Granny-Wicked> angie all site pages look great really I don't see any 
lines on logo
<AngieDixon> Thanks. I'm sure she's just seeing an old copy or something, 
but I told her I would get SEVERAL people to look, on different monitors.
<Otter> Tell her the "Pros" said it's just fine!!!!  :)
<z-Granny-Wicked> good that is the best way to do it, as per two great
 teachers: "always ask for more then your own opinion"
<AngieDixon> She'll probably believe you guys, unlike some other people 
I've dealt with, who thought we must all be wrong.
<z-anneH> angie, does she know how to clear the cache in her browser?
* z-Granny-Wicked loves the sail boat pic!!
<z-jazsl> I was late, what are we discussing--can't figure it out...
<AngieDixon> I had asked everyone to look at a site for me & tell
 me if there blue streaks in the logo.
<z-jazsl> oh, I see
<z-jazsl> I was trying to make a spinning 3-D aplet and all that's 
spinning is my head!
<AngieDixon> Ooooh. That sounds rough.
<z-dowie> If anyone comes across any good summer graphics in the next
 week or so, send the URL my way, please.
<z-dowie> Looking for beachy stuff and the like.
<z-kayroller> I get to start serfing tomorrow I get second line tomorrow 
<AngieDixon> And some of my distant friends are online.
<z-Granny-Wicked> I open my email and minimize it, then I know if my mail
 is new or not
<AngieDixon> And I think I am just a little TOO caught up in dealing with 
everything urgent right away.
<z-Granny-Wicked> you need icq angie, then you will know when they are on line
<AngieDixon> That's a great way to do it; I do that, too.
<Otter> and AOL Instant Messenger
<z-Granny-Wicked> aw, yes I know that one, angie, everything is urgent one!!
<z-Granny-Wicked> can you use aol instant messanger even if you don't 
have aol? and will it affect your puter otter?
<AngieDixon> I have ICQ, but none of them do. I have given it to one. 
One is a teacher & can't use it at the Job Corps center, and 
the other is a lawyer & probably just doesn't want to be bothered.
<AngieDixon> Also, my hubby & I exchange emails during the day.
<AngieDixon> And some other friends here locally, whom I don't talk to often.
<Otter> GW -- yes -- I have it because a lot of friends and relatives are on AOL
<Otter> and they can't use ICQ
<Otter> But you can't send messages unless they are online!!
<z-Granny-Wicked> now that is the real reason angie, and the best reason!!
<Blossom^> did I hear ICQ?
<z-dowie> Otter, AOLers can't use ICQ?
<z-Granny-Wicked> kayroller has icq otter and she is aol person
<Blossom^> I use AOL Instant Messenger too dowie
<Otter> no dowie
<z-kayroller> dowie I am an aol and I use ICQ
<z-jazsl> so did our teacher just leave
<Otter> KR -- do you use another ISP besides AOL?
<z-Granny-Wicked> wb angie
<AngieDixon> I'm here.
<z-kayroller> no 
<AngieDixon> I had a slight little, uh, problem. 
<Otter> hmmmmm.....
<z-kayroller> I use only aol 
<z-dowie> My cousin has AOL and ICQ, but is having probs with ICQ.
<z-kayroller> but I did not hook ICQ into aol 
<z-eagel> I have aol at one of my students and I cant even access class chats 
from it All I get is a big grey box nothing else
* z-Granny-Wicked thinks otter needs to investigate aol and icq, lolrof
* Otter doesn't like AOL!!!!! :)
<z-kayroller> I have aol but I minamixe it to do Icq 
<z-Granny-Wicked> aw maybe that is why otter, independant workings not connected 
or hooked together
<z-anneH> night guys
<z-kayroller> I didn't put mirc in aol either 
<z-Seraphina> I have aol, but I haven't learned ICQ yet.
<z-dowie> Mamabear do you still want me to look at that form?
Session Close: Tue May 19 20:20:26 1998