Thanks to Graywulf for transcribing this and to Bonnie (Stargazer) for
acting as the moderator :-)
There are some gaps b/c mean old TalkCity kept kicking Graywulf out.
Session Start: Sun Jun 20 20:08:59 1999
[20:08] *** Now talking in #sentinel
<DawnCapp> Oh yeas, sirizzy :-) Full of bounce LOL
<DawnCapp> Well, Sk...
<LionLady4> LOL Yuma
<CarolROI> When did you start writing?
<inyx> Hi everyone finally made it!
<yumadesign> Knock him down and he bounces back? LOL! Blair! The
Wonderous Bouncing Anthropologist!
<yumadesign> hello LionLady.
<LionLady4> Hi Yuma
<yumadesign> trying to read the lines as fast as I can while writing
a BMB for Dawn here....grrrr
<DawnCapp> I like to read Blair Angst stories. LOL! As for favorite
authors... um... lots. Danae, Hephaistos (of course) and Kim
(really)... uh, Kristine Williams. More I just can't name em all
<yumadesign> first time in a chat room
<DawnCapp> Ohhhhh, Yuma! Go write :-) I'm dying to read another
one
<RP4032024> Who got you started with the writing?
<SKnepley> I think we have the same kinds of tastes.
<DawnCapp> Writing fanfic or writing in general?
<RP4032024> Fanfic mostly.
<SKnepley> How do you get ideas for stories?
<yumadesign> actually Dawn, its finished......eg...waiting
for beta reader to email me so I can send file...
<DawnCapp> Sentinel Too Part 1. I wasn't really into the show
at that point and stayed away from fanfic, but I started
to read the fanfic to get a flavor of the show and I loved
the fic! So I started writing and now I can't stop.
<kimheggen> Hey Dawn, who are your favorite original fic authors?
<DawnCapp> I await it anxiously, Yuma!
<yumadesign> I bet Dawn has a Blair doll at home and she just
beats him up for ....ahem..inspiration..eg
<DawnCapp> Dean Koontz. Chaim Potok. Those two spring to mind
<DawnCapp> LOL, Yuma :-)
<yumadesign> Dean Koontz ! bg
<DawnCapp> Yes, I like him over Stephen King any day (and
I used to be a big SK fan)
<yumadesign> Yuma got suckered into making it a trilogy....argh
<sirizzy> Hey, another merchandizing idea! Bouncing
Blair Dolls at Toys/R'Us!
<DawnCapp> only DK needs to work on his endings
<yumadesign> stephen king? nah....
<yumadesign> got hooked to kootnz with the book Watchers
<DawnCapp> mine was "lightning"
<LionLady4> Nah, life sized Blair pillows
<DawnCapp> LOL
<inyx> only if they come with matching Jim pillows...
<yumadesign> life size pillows? eg...but wouldn't the feathers
come flying out?
<sirizzy> I'm trying for the Cascade PD nighties, guys!
<RP4032024> Koontz's can be put to TV better than Kings.
<kimheggen> Yeah, Dawn's got a collection of little
miniature rib bandages and mini icepacks for her Blair
doll....
<yumadesign> LOL
<DawnCapp> LOL
<inyx> LOL
<sirizzy> ROTFLOL
<DawnCapp> Yeah, but when they try, they end up messing up
Koontz most of the time
<SKnepley> don't for get the butterfly strips
<RP4032024> Don't they always.
<yumadesign> or the iodine!
<DawnCapp> I have a doctor's bag right here
<Shannonhead59076> everything king writes is original, Koontz
is so formulaic
<LionLady4> or miniature frozen peas for an ice pack for the
blair doll
<RP4032024> A closet doctor. ;-)
<kimheggen> need to leave for a while...hubby's calling
from LA...
<inyx> and sunglasses...
<yumadesign> can you imagine Blair's med insurance with
all Dawn puts him thru?
<DawnCapp> LOL, Shannon, don't get me started *big grin*
<sirizzy> Is it a Chatty Blair doll, Dawn?
<LionLady4> brb - dogs wigging out
<yumadesign> a rubbery bouncy blair doll
<DawnCapp> not with that gag... err... um.. nevermind
<wolfshy> Stop it you guys are killing me. I take two of
each though.
<RP4032024> When are you going to finish that sneak preview
you started?
<Shannonhead59076> Has someone asked you yet when other side
will be finished dawn?
<yumadesign> yeah! other side, dawn!
<wolfshy> yea Dawn.
<sirizzy> Lots of different outfits too, I bet. Blair,
Ice Man style. Blair, Professor. Blair, Witchdoctor Punk.
<yumadesign> when?
<SKnepley> Yes Dawn do tell!
<DawnCapp> *ducking* it's almost finished. Honest. I tried
to get it done by today, but it's so nice here San Diego. I had
to go to a dog show yesterday and... um... there were
these terrorists (as I was telling SK) *big grin*
<RP4032024> Excuses, excuses, excuses.
<SKnepley> I thought you said aliens
<yumadesign> if ya don't hurry and finish..im gonna have
to be...eg...meanie to blair here
<yumadesign> eg
<DawnCapp> Um... they were alien terrorists
<yumadesign> lol
<sirizzy> Dawn has been too busy researching my story for
me. Leave the poor woman alone. It's all my fault.
<yumadesign> oh dawn
<SKnepley> oohhh OK
<SKnepley> <G>
<BSgal> I
<DawnCapp> LOL. Actually Soul hijacked my brain and left me
with a little teeny case of writers' block for OTHER SIDE,
but I'm beating it into submission
<sirizzy> Wait, Dawn, that sorta sounds like one of those
alibis I was talking about once . . .
<inyx> Dawn - Soul was beautiful
**** Missing chat (gap) *****
<sirizzy> It always amazes me how much dust can collect in a decade.
<DawnCapp> LOL. I hate to see what's underneath my laptop's
keyboard
<teddbar06> Any hints, Dawn?
<teddbar06> Ewwww.
<lrhb> *Pointless* Blair pain/angst... Is there such a
thing? Isn't that a genre in its own right?
<DawnCapp> Well, the Constitution series has to do with the
"legalization of Marijuana" and the other one I'm not
telling
<teddbar06> I spilled coffee into my keyboard at work.
<teddbar06> It is in Dawn's world
<DawnCapp> and does it still work, TAE?
<sirizzy> Oh, TAE, who has time for cleaning? We all
have to read your stories and Dawn's and everyone else's? Get
real!
<SKnepley> coffe and keyboards do not mix well
<teddbar06> Yeah, rubbing alcohol works wonders
<yumadesign> neither does writing fic and chatrooms...
<yumadesign> got booted out of chat while doing a fic..grrr
<DawnCapp> I think I have a whole bunch of crums in my keyboard
:-)
<MyrnaMimi> THere's no such THING as pointless BPA!!
(Blair Pain/Angst!!!)
<teddbar06> Hey, I manage to read almost everything
that
comes out and still write.
<inyx> I haven't gotten the hang of that yet
<yumadesign> I think I have Lash lurking in my keyboard
running it amuck...
<teddbar06> Of course, since the weather's nice, I'm
spending more time on the horses.
<SKnepley> The point of blair pain is all that h/c that
comes after!
<DawnCapp> I told Jane once (ahem, she's supposed to be
here) that I could just read the same Blair angst story
over
and over again with different bad guys and slightly different
events. LOL!
<inyx> I just finished printing off about half a ream of stories
today
<DawnCapp> I like my escapism. Okay? :-)
<teddbar06> Yep
<yumadesign> whatever works Dawn
<sirizzy> We like your escapism too, Dawn.
<yumadesign> me too
<lrhb> What do you mean by a "Constitution" series?
<MyrnaMimi> No one comforts quite like Jim! ;-)
<SKnepley> I save everything on a ZIP disk. Saves a
tree
here or there
<poki_chu> At the risk of being assaulted, a lot of BPA
*does* read like the same story over and over...
<DawnCapp> Constitution Series is a series of "real law"
articles woven into the Sentinel Universe
<poki_chu> (Sorry, Jimbabe has entered the room!<g>)
<DawnCapp> Like the Search and Seizure Drug Courier
Profile one. :-)
<CarolROI> Just the point I was about to make, poki!
<DawnCapp> Hello!
<inyx> that was wonderful - but painful to read
<poki_chu> Hi, Dawn!
<SKnepley> that one amazed me! Everyone can be searched!
<DawnCapp> Poki, hep, it does
<teddbar06> Wasn't it, though?
<DawnCapp> that's supposed to be YEP it does - but that's
okay b/c I like it!
<teddbar06> It's still scary.
<sirizzy> Yeah, it does. Not all that funny, is it?
<DawnCapp> Yeah, pretty much
<teddbar06> So much for human rights, eh?
<SKnepley> Is the Border Exception still on the books?
<teddbar06> Yes.
<lrhb> I haven't read much fanfic, but I was handed the
"Search and Seizure..." story. Quite enjoyed it.
I didn't
realize that you wrote that one.
<DawnCapp> there's now a class action suit pending against
customs
<teddbar06> Good.
<DawnCapp> LRH, yep, that was me :-)
<inyx> interesting - keep us informed of the outcome....
<inyx> wb Kim
<teddbar06> Hope uncle loses big-time on that one.
Especially to the lady who almost lost her baby...
<DawnCapp> There is a slash version of the search and
seizure story (not by me)
<SKnepley> I saw the tag at the end of the story. Jim(my
Dh) couldn't believe it
<kimheggen> thanks...
<DawnCapp> tell me about it, TAE. That makes me so mad
<lrhb> As a person who crosses the U.S. border once or
twice a week, I've had some pretty horrible experiences
with
being searched, but forturnately not to Blair's extent!!!
<teddbar06> I can think of nothing worse than someone
using their 'righteous might' to hurt the people theyr'e
supposed to protect.
<DawnCapp> Well, most don't go to Blair's extent, but
there are some true horror stories out there
<inyx> Which story is your personal favourite (written by
you/written by someone else)?
<DawnCapp> Oh - that's tough INYX.
<wolfshy> That is something I don't have to worry about. I
don't Fly.
<inyx> I only ask the tough ones ;-)
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 20:27:52 1999
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Session Start: Sun Jun 20 20:28:13 1999
*** Now talking in #sentinel
<LionLady4> The border patrol in S. Cal.
stops people driving from San Diego toward L.A.
<SKnepley> But I don't think the border
exception covers the search then, LionLady.
<LionLady4> I don't know, I only know I try
really hard NOT to look hispanic at those times
<DawnCapp> Iris' "Closet Monsters"
Danae's Saviors trilogy some of Jane's
stuff... for my own I like INSIDE and OUT,
Cherry Bombs, and Soul of Mne
<inyx> no, it should only be brought into play when
someone is entering the country
<BSgal> How can border patrols stop people
traveling in the US like that?
<teddbar06> Yeah, it does. Because of the
illegal immegrant problem. They can stop any
'suspicious' vehicle clear up to LA. As a
border 'area'
<kimheggen> Yes!!! Inside and Out! Love it,
love it!
<DawnCapp> I've driven to LA lots of times
but never been stopped
<teddbar06> That means primarily Latinos...
<DawnCapp> Thanks, KIM
<SKnepley> WOW another reason not to move
to Cali
<yumadesign> Inside Out Cherry Bomb and
Fatigue!
<LionLady4> Not to mention the roads
leading from Mexico toward LA are also a main
drug corridor
<teddbar06> That's why they have the extended 'border
control'
<sirizzy> Canada is a main drug corridor too, more's the
pity.
<SKnepley> Cherry Bombs is always on my list of fic
suggestions for new readeds
<SKnepley> readers
<LionLady4> I have a friend who works at one of the scales
and they have armed policemen there because they find
smuggled
drug shipments
<inyx> Cherry Bombs was priceless
<DawnCapp> :-) Thanks, SK.
<kimheggen> Okay, Dawn...what do you suggest for writer's
block?
<tian_oz> i agree...cherry bombs is excellent
<kimheggen> or do you ever get that?
<poki_chu> Kim, chocolate, a warm puppy, and an episode
blitz...
<teddbar06> Since you seem to be suffering with a block at
the moment...
<inyx> sounds like a good way to work through a writer's block
<DawnCapp> I don't know. I'm experiencing it now with
OTHER SIDE. He.HE Basically, I try to just do other things
until inspiration strikes, but I can't do that with OTHER
SIDE
or I'll by lynched. HeHe. Teach me to send out a tease...
<sirizzy> Get out your Blair doll and the butterfly
bandages and have fun!
<teddbar06> Take the puppy for a long walk.
<SKnepley> We won't lynch you. If we did that, we'd
never
get the rest of the story
<DawnCapp> been doing that :-)
<DawnCapp> LOL! Good point, SK
<kimheggen> oh, we won't lynch you. you'll get to it
eventually.
<teddbar06> Dawn, did you hear about the pitbulls here in
Sacramento?
<DawnCapp> It's coming along, Kim. Really. :-)
<DawnCapp> I've heard a couple of things - the fighting
ring they busted up? That one?
<SKnepley> Do I want to know? Will it make me mad?
<poki_chu> I keep swearing I won't post in parts, and
then...an alien kidnaps me and forces me to!
<teddbar06> Yeah. They put all the dogs down last week.
<DawnCapp> LOL, Poki. Must be the same aliens that came
here.
<wolfshy> Bye all Got to go.
<inyx> see ya wolfshy
<SKnepley> Bye Wolfie!
<DawnCapp> Yeah, TAE, I heard about that... got some
rescue requests but just too many dogs and they've been
fought
so ... you know...
<teddbar06> Even the barely weaned puppies were attacking
anything that moved...
<sirizzy> Bye, wolfshy!
<CarolROI> I find posting in parts keeps me enthused about
writing.
<DawnCapp> bye wolfshy
<kimheggen> posting in parts, poki, is a major leap of
faith in yourself
<poki_chu> No doubt. Uhmmm...amongst all your ideas, you
didn't mention one for Virtual TS<g>
<DawnCapp> That's all hush-hush *big grin*
<sirizzy> Were they bred specifically for the pit, TAE?
<BSgal> My next door neighbor has a beautifully colored
pit bull called Precious.
<poki_chu> Hush-hush? Shoot, nobody told me!<vbg>
<BSgal> She thinks she's a cat. Acts like one.
<teddbar06> Unfortunately, yes. Even the puppies were
mean and couldn't be saved. I haven't heard anything
on the
'virtual season' except that I volunteered for one, but
haven't
heard any more.
<inyx> welcome lupeloo - pull up a chair and join in!
<DawnCapp> TAE, that's not tue, actually. Barely weaned
puppies, no matter how aggressive their parents, aren't
going
to be attacking things that young. I've never seen it
happen.
<sirizzy> Virtual TS? Dawn, with all the teasing, you're
still holding out on us?
<DawnCapp> I'm sworn to secrecy IZZY.
<SKnepley> I have a friend with a Rottie. the dog is
a
full grown male and thinks he's a lap dog
<LionLady4> well - this was very nice - but I have to go.
<kimheggen> Besides the science lab and the courtroom ,
Dawn, what are some other sources you've used for ideas?
or are
they random
<LionLady4> see ya around all
<DawnCapp> Oh, bye Lionlady
<teddbar06> The good ones are like that
<SKnepley> bye Lion Lady!
<teddbar06> Bye.
<DawnCapp> Sources for ideas :-)
<DawnCapp> Um...
<DawnCapp> Well, the news the other day gave me a story...
<kimheggen> tough question...sorry
<teddbar06> The newspaper, class?
<DawnCapp> but I'm not saying what it is. HeHe
<DawnCapp> class gives me tons of stories.
<sirizzy> IZZY? Am I supposed to be intimidated now,
Dawn? (Just checking . . . LOL)
<DawnCapp> Sometimes it's just random
<teddbar06> OOh, I love random smarm attacks
<DawnCapp> Soul came about after working on the science
page. :-)
<DawnCapp> Izzy, intimidating... nah *grin*
<kimheggen> Random smarm attack? Where???
<sirizzy> Random angst attacks! Sounds like a MacDonald's
commercial . . .
<teddbar06> Especially when it's one of my muses
<DawnCapp> LOL.
<poki_chu> I *need* a smarm attack...I've been feeling
silly lately...
<teddbar06> Join the club
<SKnepley> Smarm s Good. Smarm is very good
<inyx> I've got no problem with Smarm...
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 20:37:41 1999
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Session Start: Sun Jun 20 20:38:43 1999
*** Now talking in #sentinel
<DawnCapp> LOL, SK I was trying to figure
out what addition had to do with anything
<teddbar06> Or at work?
<SKnepley> Actually we watch very little
TV. Ts was about it
<DawnCapp> During class, no - but sometimes
I go off in my head :-) LOL
<CarolROI> I used to do that in college<G>
<inyx> this is not a good night for irc...
<yumadesign> writing fics during class is
my way...best way to write I found
<poki_chu> Hey, I wrote stories for class
assignments (not English class, either). Usually
went over OK!
<DawnCapp> Not too often, though. I'm real
good in class.
<yumadesign> not me...bad kid in class..eg
<teddbar06> Before work, during lunch are
my best times.
<kimheggen> I write best at the office...don
't know why.
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<yumadesign> whumping blair and danny in
class all the time eg
<DawnCapp> LOL
<BSgal> Given all the time you spend
between school/FF writing/Dogs & RL, do you
really read much TS FF on the net?
<teddbar06> I can come in really early and
get in an hour before work
<DawnCapp> Heck yeah!
<DawnCapp> I read all the fic I can get my
hands on!
<sirizzy> It's when I'm screaming at the tV
"FAKE LAW" that I get my best ideas . . .
<DawnCapp> Gen, though
<teddbar06> Keeps the brain nimble, doesn't
it.
<kimheggen> Dawn, do your RL friends and
associates know you write this stuff?
<DawnCapp> LOL. Izzy. I tend to scream more
"fake science!"
<DawnCapp> Hell no
<teddbar06> Her family does!!!!
<DawnCapp> (Kim that is)
<SKnepley> we sceam fake martial arts
<DawnCapp> My family does, yeah. they tease
me
<teddbar06> But they love you anyway.
<DawnCapp> I hope so ;-)
<kimheggen> But you write under your real
name...at least I assume it's your real name.
<sirizzy> Well, give them the transcript of
this chat. Prove you have a public!
<SKnepley> Asking with trepitation. . .
<kimheggen> a public what
<poki_chu> Dawn, if you're young, you're
weird -- but if you're older, you can simply be
"eccentric"
<teddbar06> She does.
<inyx> wb lrhb
<DawnCapp> Yes, it is under my real name.
Had I known how much I would get into this, I
probably would have chosen a pen name
<SKnepley> Are you planning to do more
shirts in the future?
<DawnCapp> Poki, I'm btwn young and old. 26
:-)
<DawnCapp> No, the shirt torch has been
passed to Iroshi
<sirizzy> Kim! A public readership that
DEMANDS she write instead of study!
<inyx> Dawn - you're a sapling....
<teddbar06> Who is taking orders
<DawnCapp> Iroshi
<poki_chu> You're just a baby! I had the
big...dare I say it?...5-0 this month!
<DawnCapp> Well, congrats Poki! :-)
<poki_chu> Shirts, what shirts? No one told
me about any shirts...
<teddbar06> Oh, good, someone older than I
am! You're half way there!
<inyx> Many happy returns Poki
<DawnCapp> Cascade PD shirts, Poki
<teddbar06> Cascade PD shirts
<SKnepley> I knew I shouldn't have asked
<poki_chu> I'm older than everyone, thank
you very much.
<sirizzy> I'm impressed, Poki. (Another
person ahead of me for Crown Crone.)
<teddbar06> Iroshi is taking orders for
them
<teddbar06> Just more experienced.
<DawnCapp> what is this crone thing. I must
have missed a few posts :-)
<kimheggen> Dawn, wait until you're done
with school and you're the boss. No one will
dare to think you're weird then.
<SKnepley> you're not old enough<G>
<teddbar06> It's those of us hitting the
menopause wall.
<sirizzy> Oldest CT member.
<inyx> right TAE - definitely more experienced...
<DawnCapp> LOL. I keep waiting for that,
Kim, but then I keep going to school... and keep
going... and keep going. LOL
<poki_chu> Crown Crone? Consider that sound
a *cyberslap*!
<DawnCapp> Ah.
<teddbar06> No, someoene else was older
than you Izzy
<kimheggen> the energizer bunny of
education!
<SKnepley> ourse I'm only 28, so I can't
say too much
<inyx> another sapling....
<teddbar06> She was even older than Otter,
who is also older than Izzy.
<DawnCapp> I wish I were a crone during
those times of the month :-)
<teddbar06> No, you don't
<sirizzy> Trust me, Dawn, you don't.
<poki_chu> I give new meaning to the words
"towering inferno"
<teddbar06> My cousin is having power
surges and PMS to kill her for.
<DawnCapp> LOL. You ever watch a dog dream?
It's hilarious. Fitz is chasing something in his
sleep. :o)
<sirizzy> You know you can trust me, right?
I am a lawyer!
<teddbar06> LOL
<kimheggen> my cats do that. very funny.
<teddbar06> Is he running?
<DawnCapp> LOL Izzy. Yeah, right...
trust... a lawyer :-)
<DawnCapp> His legs are twitching, so yeah.
:-)
<teddbar06> Puppy 'talks' in his sleep.
(puppy is my cat)
<DawnCapp> LOL. Fitz makes little noises.
<teddbar06> The little whuffly panting ones?
<sirizzy> I talk in my sleep too, but no
one calls me "Puppy." They usually use an older
word.
<DawnCapp> Yep. Those be it
<DawnCapp> LOL, Izzy
<teddbar06> Well, you're not a ten pound
cat, either.
<kimheggen> Any more cross-overs in your
future, Dawn? I loved the Star Trek and X-Files
x-overs you wrote.
<SKnepley> How did you come up with Puupy
to name a cat?
<inyx> let me guess - the size of a small dog???
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 20:47:45 1999
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Session Start: Sun Jun 20 20:48:32 1999
*** Now talking in #sentinel
<teddbar06> May I read it?
<poki_chu> The difference between fanfic
and most professional "adaptation" novels is
that the fanfic is generally better written!
<DawnCapp> Izzy, all the ST series are
pretty good for crossovers, but I would say
wither the original or the next gen
<DawnCapp> Sci fi both novels
<sirizzy> Hey, Dawn is writing real
fiction. We all are. It may not sell to
publishers, but it's our brainchild anyway!
<DawnCapp> Read it? Um... the first one is
in FrameMaker wich hardly anybody has
<DawnCapp> The second one is only ten pages
long :-)
<DawnCapp> I've been working on it since
Xmas but - its hard going
<CarolROI> I agree with that. Anything
that gets people to create is wonderful
<teddbar06> Can you save it in .txt?
<DawnCapp> I've been trying, TAE :-)
<teddbar06> and send it to me?
<kimheggen> True. Since I discovered
fanfic, I've only picked a book when I wanted
something portable.
<sirizzy> Hard science or soft science?
<DawnCapp> The first novel is kind of in
need of revision
<teddbar06> I have some binders I take
fanfic with me.
<DawnCapp> first is soft sci -fi (as in
philosoph sci-fi) second is hard sci-fi/psycholog
y thingie
<CarolROI> I just take my laptop and
modem<G>
<teddbar06> Sounds good to me.
<kimheggen> okay, RL calls. See you all
later!
<teddbar06> Oh, can you save it in html?
<DawnCapp> bye, Kim! Thanks for coming
<teddbar06> Bye, Kim!
<sirizzy> Bye, Kim.
<DawnCapp> Prob easier to do w/ the second
<poki_chu> Hush with the laptop! I'm soooo
jealous...
<teddbar06> I want to read the first one,
though. :{
<sirizzy> What is your educational
background, Dawn?
<CarolROI> It belongs to my company, don't
tell them I write fanfic on it!
<teddbar06> Still getting it.
<poki_chu> She's a professional student...<g
>
<teddbar06> Scientist/Lawyer
<sirizzy> Yes, but what discipline exactly?
<poki_chu> Evil combination -- if you screw
up, you can sue yourself!
<inyx> gives a good perspective for writing
<Amanacer> Bye all. I keep getting kicked
out of chat and missing a lot. I guess I'll have
to read the transcript later.
<yumadesign> gotta head back to mee fics or
mee brain will forget everything...here's where
I bid you all adieu!
<sirizzy> Bye, folks!
<DawnCapp> background. Um. went to a
woman's college in undergrad and got a
Bachelor's in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
then went to A&M - started PhD program but got
the Master's in Medical Biochem and genetics to
go to law school and, here I am in law school :-)
<teddbar06> Bye
<DawnCapp> bye folks!
<inyx> bye
<teddbar06> She wants to be a lawyer to
save the world and make it safe for pit bulls
and the nice people who own them.
<DawnCapp> Yep, TAE. bring 'em on!
<sirizzy> Why the jump to law?
<teddbar06> There's a lovely new pit bull
at the stables. Such a lovely puppy.
<DawnCapp> I've always kind of been
interested in the law, but the more I got into
pit bull work, the more I realized i really
liked fighting on the law front and did NOT like
inhaling toxic fumes every day :-)
<teddbar06> LOL
<sirizzy> I hear that! (LOL)
<poki_chu> Toxic fumes? Has someone tried
to clean my cat box?
<DawnCapp> LOL
<sirizzy> LOLOL>
<teddbar06> Nope. I use a pine litter, and
have almost no smells
<teddbar06> Now, if I could only keep the
dogs from helping me clean it...
<SKnepley> Oh man that was not pretty.
Just got kicked form the chat and had about
twenty internet windows fly open. had to reboot
the entire system.
<BSgal> Your ability to emulate the
energizer bunny and your IQ must rival our
favorite anthropologist!
<SKnepley> What did I miss
<DawnCapp> LOL. Do they like the "treats"
TAE
<DawnCapp> Me? Nah... not even close. LOL!
<lrhb> Dawn, I see now where your
educational background has contributed to your
stories... Law and Science. Is this where the
clone idea came from?
<sirizzy> Did you tell me you are interning
with a court job now?
<poki_chu> Dogs think cats are only good
for one thing -- the Tootsie Rolls in the cat
box!
<teddbar06> Not if I catch them.
<inyx> eeewwww
<SKnepley> yuck!
<sirizzy> eeeeewwww 2
<BSgal> Please, I haven
<DawnCapp> The cloning idea got me when I
was updating the science page. But like I said
in the "intro" all these cloning stories rub me
the wrong way. But I wanted to write a hard
sci-fi for the Sentinel
<inyx> it was well done
<teddbar06> Well, my cat and dogs sleep
together...of course it gets a little crowded on
the twin bed with the shepherd/husky/wolf mix
and the german shepherd and me...
<BSgal> What I was saying was I haven't
eaten dinner Yet!!! yck
<tian_oz> well you did that Dawn...congrats
on it
<DawnCapp> I start in the fall for the
internship. Now I'm working as a class asst and
for the LA Daily journal ( a legal newspaper)
<teddbar06> It was brilliantly conceived
and executed.
<inyx> though you may have known where it was going
- the journey was wonderful...
<inyx> and touching
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 20:57:57 1999
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Session Start: Sun Jun 20 20:58:21 1999
*** Now talking in #sentinel
<DawnCapp> bye, LRH
<teddbar06> I know you don't like Blair as
a cop, are you going to ignore the end?
<SKnepley> bye LRH
<sirizzy> Too literal, TAE. I want Dawn to
write a story about a Sentinel from L>A>!
<DawnCapp> I don't think I'll ignore it,
but I haven't decided yet :-)
<CarolROI> I agree with you there, Dawn.
<sirizzy> Bye, LRH!
<DawnCapp> Sentinel in LA... hmmmm :-)
<poki_chu> Bye LRH
<SKnepley> Hey carol how about Dee
<teddbar06> He could always get another
type of job, perhaps using his 'profiling'
skills...
<inyx> that's one sentinel that would have his/her
hands full of weirdness
<DawnCapp> Thanks Carol :-) I just can't
say enough of how much the image of Blair as a
cop urcks me. It's part of why I really got into
the Sentinel (him not being a cop)
<CarolROI> What about Dee?
<sirizzy> Oh, Yeah, Sentinel in LalaLand!
<SKnepley> being the Sentinelof LA
<BSgal> I like the idea of Blair using his
Shaman abilities and his minor in Psych and
becoming a profiler! Get more mystical.!
<teddbar06> THe LA Sentinel is the
newspaper, they have a building on La Brea in
Inglewood
<CarolROI> I've worked up several ideas for
me to deal with it in my fic.
<CarolROI> None of them have to do with him
becoming a cop. Just seems toomuch against the
grain
<DawnCapp> I agree, Carol
<DawnCapp> *shiver*
<sirizzy> Same here.
<teddbar06> He can change his major to
psych and get his BA or Masters and then qualify
for a non-packing member of the squad
<SKnepley> ouldn't he go through the aceemy
and still b a consultant
<teddbar06> I can see him packing, but not
using.
<DawnCapp> I don't think he'd be allowed
back into any school
<tian_oz> I'v noticed the shaman stuff in
people's fics...some focus on it and others
don't touch it at all
<sirizzy> He could just take a one-year
degree in Criminology backed by his research
on-the-job already done.
<CarolROI> I just read a real good story
with him going to the academy but as a
consultant..
<BSgal> I agree. Blair as as cop is a no,
no! But as a profiler he could be a consultant
maybe?
<tian_oz> I read that one too Carol
<sirizzy> Well, if I ever get back to
getting PIABIAR Blair out of LalaLand, maybe he
would be . . .
<SKnepley> so did I. can't think of the
ttleright off the top
<CarolROI> It's under what's new at
Guideposts
<SKnepley> I know I saved it
<teddbar06> I can see him as a cop. He'd
be possibly one of the best cops around, but I
don't think he'd draw his weapon unless Jim was
going to die.
<SKnepley> good point
<sirizzy> Ah, but TAE, he can't bargain
with the ethics of hte job like that! Every
life is as important as Jim's!
<poki_chu> If he carries his weapon as
required, I imagine Jim will have to dust it off
every now and again or Blair will forget he has
it!
<tian_oz> I agree with TAE...he goes
through the training but won't use the gun
unless absolutely necessary
<DawnCapp> I don't think he'd draw his gun
easily, either, TAE. I just don't like the whole
idea of him being a cop and carrying a gun
everday. Blair with a holster *shiver*
<teddbar06> He's handled guns and even
fired them. It looked (to me) to be more a case
of a fear of guns from not being familiar with
them.
<SKnepley> he can keep one bullet in his
pocke
<SKnepley> pocket
<teddbar06> and his line about
<inyx> like Barney Fife??
<SKnepley> xactly
<teddbar06> I'm not carrying a gun' could
be put down to his fear.
<SKnepley> ,g.
<poki_chu> Just don't leave it in the
pocket when it goes through the dryer...!
<sirizzy> I hate the idea of Blair with a
gun, not because I think he wouldn't use it but
because I think it would be angst-plus to have
to.
<teddbar06> Bye-bye dryer
<inyx> ;-)
<DawnCapp> Oh I don't think Blair is
"unfamiliar" with guns, not at all (well, not
that he's used them a lot, either). But I like
him b/c he doesn't WANT to pack a gun. Or at
least, he didn't way back when. If they change
that part of his character, I'll be very
disappointed.
<teddbar06> Oh, what a great bunch of
stories that could lead to
<SKnepley> And what will Naomi do when she
realizes whartt Blair in the acedemy really means
<inyx> TAE - did you get my email about the beta?
<teddbar06> Not yet. I haven't been online
since Friday morning. Which account did you
send it to?
<inyx> I think Naomi already does
<inyx> just a sec.
<tian_oz> got to go do some work
people....is this a regular chat room or only
for fanfic chats?
<sirizzy> Ah, Naomi. Dawn, do you have any
ideas about Blair and Naomi in the future?
<inyx> yahoo
<DawnCapp> No, I don't really have any
Blair-Naomi ideas at the moment :-)
<DawnCapp> tian, this is open all the time
but only scheduled author / ep chats
<SKnepley> i think it's here all the timeee
<SKnepley> bye tian!
<tian_oz> okey dokey thanks...may see you
all at a later point. cheerio for now
<DawnCapp> bye tian
<sirizzy> Bye, tian
<teddbar06> I can just imagine Naomi when
she finally realizes that Blair is going to be a
'pig'
<teddbar06> Bye!
<inyx> is there a lag or is no one talking?
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 21:09:30 1999
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Session Start: Sun Jun 20 21:09:37 1999
*** Now talking in #sentinel
<SKnepley> I think Blair will feel he could
have avoided the situation, Jim will feel guity
for getting Blair into the situation, and Naomi
will have a lot of processing to do
<BSgal> Do you think Blair could ever pick
up a gun again after hurting some one?
<sirizzy> Again, what if he doesn't draw
and shoot? What could happen then is truly
tragic!
<DawnCapp> I don't think Blair would be
that upset if he just shot AT someone. If he hit
them, whether or not they died, I think that
would nearly devastate him
<SKnepley> precisely
<teddbar06> If it was the choice between
saving someone innocent and stopping the bad
guy, I think he oculd handle it.
<CarolROI> But bad guys have families too...
<DawnCapp> That's why I said "nearly" He He
<sirizzy> He'd have to. A bargain with the
devil.
<DawnCapp> But it would change him... and
not in a way I'd really like
<teddbar06> I *don't* think he could ever
accept an accident, like the one Jim had in S2-1
<SKnepley> but that doesn't mean he won't
think there was another way out of the situation
<sirizzy> No, and that's why I really don't
like the ending to BSbBS (my name for the ep).
<DawnCapp> of course, Blair could make that
big sacrifice and Jim get shot the next day :-)
<DawnCapp> I have an evil mind. tragic
<teddbar06> I think he'll always try to do
anything else, first, just like he does now.
<sirizzy> so what d we propose? Blair
takes the course, becomes a cop, shoots someone
by accident, has the guilts and quits? Where
does that leave Sentinel and Guide then?
<CarolROI> And how about the angst everyone
else would feel for pressuring Blair into
becoming a cop, if something tragic happened
<teddbar06> Even most cops try everything
else first and then draw their weapon
<DawnCapp> sure, but in Sentinel land just
count how many times Jim has drawn and fired his
gun :-)
<inyx> yeah, but we're not dealing with the real
world here
<DawnCapp> I don't think anybody wants
Blair to really quite for good. But I am not too
happy with the way things are looking
<BSgal> If I knew a person like Blair, I
would never accept the whole of him possibly
cheating on his Diss in the first place.
<inyx> actually - Blair is the type of cop I'd like
to see on the streets...
<SKnepley> True TAE, and some are lucky
enough to never have to fire their weapon
<sirizzy> Jim is already established as a
killer. You know, Covert Ops. Blair is not.
<DawnCapp> exactly - part of the dichotomy
btwn the two and why I don't want Blair to be a
cop.
<DawnCapp> I like the contrast.
<DawnCapp> I really like Blair's "willing
to fight" but "not too into it" character
<sirizzy> I do too. Blair as Jim-wannabe
doesn't work for mel.
<SKnepley> I just don't want to see Blair
lost in Jim's shadow
<DawnCapp> Me either
<inyx> but Blair isn
<sirizzy> Soor, that was 'me'.
<inyx> t a Jim-wannabe
<BSgal> More of a 'willing to protect'
character.
<DawnCapp> Yeah, more "willing to protect"
and/or stand up for himself. Like in GIRL NEXT
DOOR and SEIGE
<sirizzy> Yeah, but Blair's already got the
skills and ability to protect. Especially in
the realm of the psychological.
<teddbar06> He isn't even if he becomes a
cop, he'll still be him. Not Jim, not Simon,
Blair. He was always willing to fight for what
was right.
<inyx> dead on TAE
<sirizzy> Just not with a gun, by choice.
Does he have a choice, now at the end of TSbyBS?
<teddbar06> The only difference now will be
the gun. Whether or not he ever actually uses
it, we donl know
<inyx> I can't see him ever becoming a Jim-wannabe
- any more than Jim could become a Blair- wannabe
<SKnepley> He'll always have a choice.
MacGyver never carried a gun
<BSgal> You know Blair's a very strong
person. How else could he have conducted the
press conference and made it through emotionally?
<DawnCapp> He'll be "Blair Sandburg" but
putting a gun insomeone's hand and giving him
the mentality where he knows every day that
there's a decent chance he'll have to use it,
changes a person's psychology and *does* change
the character. It would be like putting Dr.
McCoy in Security and a red shirt
<DawnCapp> No
<inyx> A lot of people forget his strength of
character
<inyx> hello?
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 21:19:09 1999
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Session Start: Sun Jun 20 21:19:26 1999
*** Now talking in #sentinel
<poki_chu> SAY WHAT?
<teddbar06> No.
<inyx> what did I miss???
<DawnCapp> miss? Just talk about Blair as a
cop.
<inyx> I keep getting dropped
<teddbar06> Whatever the department allows.
Most are now using semi-automatics, but some
still use revolvers.
<inyx> I saw part of that - but from the reaction I
just came back to...
<sirizzy> It's kind of a personal choice,
mostly how the weapon fits the person's grip.
<teddbar06> The pistols hold from 9 - 13
rounds, and a revolver holds 5-6
<teddbar06> Since bad guys have big
firepower, the cops have changed to meet the
challenge
<BSgal> I see Jim as a 13 round kind of
person <grin>
<SKnepley> yeah, I know the differenc. I'm
trying to think what Blair could carry
<poki_chu> With fourteen spare magazines...!
<SKnepley> sadly that's only too true
<teddbar06> Personally, I prefer the
revolver, I'm looking for a .357 revolver and
rifle.
<sirizzy> Oh, heck, give him a whip a la
Indiana Jones . . .
<carolroi> There is a big controversy here
in NYC with the semi automatics
<inyx> poki - only 14?
<teddbar06> Having seen Blair's hands, I'd
say he'd prefer tha revolver.
<SKnepley> I can see him more with a
revolver that a pistol
<poki_chu> The bulging pockets would
destroy the cut of his clothes...!
<teddbar06> But that's only based on the
shape of his hands and the length of his fingers
(shorter with bigger palms)
<sirizzy> Well, we can't have that! Rafe
would croak at the fashion mistake!
<SKnepley> Can he still qualify with a
revolver?
<BSgal> He'd carry it on his back like Jim,
I bet.
<teddbar06> LOL
<inyx> ;-)
<teddbar06> Only if he's narrow waisted
with a big arch in the small of his back.
<sirizzy> Dawn, where are you?
<poki_chu> I think it would be funny for
Blair to try to find a comfortable place for the
holster -- left shoulder,right shoulder, hip,
ankle. Very funny!
<BSgal> I got it! He could carry it under
his hair. LOL.
<teddbar06> He might use a cross-draw on
his belt, with a snub-nose Chief's Special....Oh,
yeah.
<DawnCapp> I'm right here :-)
<sirizzy> Actually, since Jim drops his gun
at eveyr possible moment, I think Blair oughta
carry four.
<DawnCapp> Was getting Bonnie's e-mail
about being frozen out
<DawnCapp> LOL. IZZY
<poki_chu> LOL!
<inyx> or he could always pick up Jim's dropped
guns...
<SKnepley> A belt holster would work better
for the revolver
<poki_chu> He'd need another backpack...
<inyx> lol
<SKnepley> the ankle would be out. Too
hard to get to in an emergency
<teddbar06> Especially with the cut of his
pants.
<SKnepley> and the hiking boots
<poki_chu> I've found some pistols that fit
even my stubby little hands.
<teddbar06> I'd go for the Chief's special,
that 2-inch barrel would be perfect to hide in a
cross-draw holster
<teddbar06> Besides, what else should Blair
carry?
<DawnCapp> Chief's special - perfect name.
LOL
<SKnepley> Ok that's settled. Now we need
to write the story.
<sirizzy> Yes! TAE! Perfect!
<poki_chu> A 2-inch barrel? How's that for
distance?
<teddbar06> One good thing about the
Chief's Special is that it's only accurate up to
about 30-40 feet...
<sirizzy> Distance? When every bad guy in
the world wants to get up close and personal
with Blair?
<inyx> dawn - I'm going to get going - I'll send the transcript in
a few
minutes, such that it is....
Session Close: Sun Jun 20 21:28:02 1999