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From: <Hausmutti@aol.com>

If you haven't seen this, here is a good list and planning guide. The theology of these guys is a little weird, but this is useful.

http://www.millennium-ark.net/News_Files/Hollys.html

Look at the Long Term storage at the Mormon 12 month and 52 week lists. Here is the list we have drawn up so far. Some has been implemented. Much of it still needs work.
God bless all of you, Jeff Ottle, jaggedrock@aol.com:

Y2K Preparation List

SPIRITUAL PREPARTION & ITEMS

Pray in all manner of ways constantly
Prayer with every preparation performed
Prayer for continuous discernment
Rosaries, Scapulars, Medals, Prayer cards
Devotions, Novenas

PRIMARY FOODS

Wheat
Oats
Other grains
Corn meal
Canned foods
Bulk dehydrated fruits/vegetables
Powdered milk
Pastas
Kool aid
Cocoa
Top Rommen

FOOD ENHANCEMENTS

Honey
Peanut butter
Vitamins
Herbs/spices (fight blandness)
Dried tomato powder
Dried cheese powder
Staple cooking items: sugar, salt, pepper, flower, corn meal, brown rice, various beans, white rice
Chili powder

COOKING/FOOD PREPARATION SUPPLIES

Cooking oil
Shortening
Baking soda
Yeast

CLEANERS

Dish/pot/pan cleaners
Laundry soap
Scour powder

COOKING HARDWARE

Charcoal top Dutch oven/regular Dutch oven
Frying pan
Cast iron cook set - all items including coffee pot
Utensils

DISHES/EATING THINGS

Paper plates
Cups
Silverware

FOOD STORAGE HARDWARE & RELATED

Food storage bags
Variety of Tupperware's

ENERGY ITEMS

Alternative power
Generator, batteries
Candles
Extra car battery for 12V power; rotate them
Solar battery re-charger/NiCad-cads
Variety of alkaline cells/NiCad-cad cells
Calculator batteries

LIGHTING PLAN

Candles
Oil lamps
Kerosene lamps
Flashlights

HEAT PLAN

Blankets
Warm clothing
Wood stoves/pellets

SURVIVAL ITEMS

Make list from Family Survival handbook
Military quality survival knife
Campus/instructions

MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS

Pencils
Paper
Markers
Plastic bags
Paper bags

FUEL ITEMS

Gasoline
Propane, gas cans for cars
5 gallon propane bottles
Gas cans
White gas
Motor oil

WATER STRATEGY ITEMS

Pool kit for water
Cover of some type
Water filtration system plan (Jason)
Silver tablets
Iodine tablets
Water jugs

MEDICAL/FIRST AID ITEMS

Medicine
Complete first aid kit
Various shelf medicines
Prescription drugs just to have them (ampicillin, etc.)
Aspirin
Excedrin
Antacid
Alcohol
Hydrogen Peroxide
Ointment

HUNTING EQUIPMENT (we live in deer country)

Rifle
Ammunition
Cleaning/care items
Certification/training to use them
Butcher knives
Hide tanning supplies

SHARING POLICY

We will share
We will rely on the Lord to multiply supplies as they run down via sharing

EXIT SCENARIO

Keep cars gassed up
Make contingency plan to get out (cars, trailer, gas plan for that, etc.)
All camp gear rigged and ready
Need small utility trailer, loaded
Need large gas tank trailer (150 to 300 gallons)
Have emergency bags packed and ready to go
Have quick exit scenario - primary and secondary routes planned
Maps
Atlas

VEHICLE ASSETS

Get trailer and connection

PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS

Feminine pads
Toothpaste
Soap
Shampoo
Deodorant
Razors
Shaving Cream
After Shaves/Cologne/Perfume
Personal packs
Junk wood, pallets (to burn and build with)

COMMUNICATIONS

Power 895XLT from car and other equipment too
Cobra's, ATS 803A, SSB, mobile antennae, 895XLT
Tape recorder to tape monitoring
Baygen radio/solar cell/light
Frequency lists/books
Power plan for 895XLT, replace XLT100 battery
Replacement cobra antenna
Roof antenna for SSB/cables
Mobile antenna for 895XLT/cables
Order 895XLT mobile mounting kit
Save box for scantenna
Take down dipole
SW antenna
Get new SW coax/connectors
Handheld AM/FM from work

LAUNDRY STRATEGY

Wash boards
Wringer
Tubs

GARBAGE STRATEGY

Garbage bags
Burning

TOILET STRATEGY

Toilet paper
Lime
Picks
Shovels

GAMES

Dice
Cards
Chess, Checkers, Cards, Scrabble, 5 in a row, Chips, Puzzles
Hoyle game rule book

PERSONAL RECORDS/PAPERWORK

Taxes and major financial events boxes
Family member/Assets/Warranties/Insurance file box
Social security cards
Birth certificates
Vaccination records
Medical records

LIBRARY

Bibles
Spiritual books
Spiritual booklet/pamphlet box
Survival handbook
Medical
Gardening
Water storage
Food storage
Family preparedness handbook

BARTER STRATEGY

Make rosaries
Make sacrifice beads
Supplies for above

TOOL ITEMS

Have tool kit packed

NEIGHBOR STRATEGY

Who can we partner with

UTILITY STRATEGY

Get utility deposits back

EFT/BANKING DISCONNECT STRATEGY

Withdraw money timely
Disconnect from use of Quicken timely
Cut off EFT of paycheck timely, or would it work better than US mail for checks?
Have supply of checks on hand

GARDEN PLAN

Watering plan
Fertilizer
Non hybrid seeds
Garden sticks

CAMPING EQUIPMENT & RELATED ITEMS

Rope
Bungies
Tarps
Tents
Sleeping bags
Stoves
Lanterns
Mantles
White gas
Complete tent stake bag fully loaded up
Ax
Hatchet

CONTINGENCY PLANS

Stop pay EFT paycheck to checking account and payment EFT's
Get inoculations ahead of time
Bankruptcy
Plans for extended family???
All cash out of bank and in hand

THINGS THAT COULD GO WRONG

Car chip problems
Job loss
Continuing income loss
No mail service for paychecks
How do I pay bills?
No electricity, gas lights, running water
No phone, PC net, scanner out, no lights
No heat, no hot water, no laundry, no TV, no wall power only radios
No refrigerator/freezer
Chaos in neighborhood, entire city, state, country, the world = get out?
Unable to leave as planned
Problems on the road
Government/military goes wacky on us
PDD's/EO's implemented

From: Jeff Ottle jaggedrock@aol.com

ONE MONTH IN A BOX

One 20 quart size powdered milk (4 pounds)
One 10 lb bag rice
Two 4 lb bags beans
Two 3 lb bags of macaroni
Three 13 ounce quick oats
Two 5 lb bags flour
One 8 ounce baking cocoa
One 4 lb bag of sugar
One 10 oz baking powder
One 8 oz baking soda
One 4 lb jar of peanut butter
One 1 qt bottle of syrup
30 miscellaneous cans (soups, vegetables, chili, etc.)
One bottle hot sauce
One bottle soy sauce
9 miscellaneous spice bottles
2 vitamin bottles
One 4 ounce bottle of vanilla extract
One 4 ounce bottle of yeast
One 16 oz bottle of jalapeno peppers
One copy Better Times Cookbook and Almanac of Useful Information for Poor People

Found a 23 inches by 21 inches by 10 inches computer box, and all of above food fit into the box, with the lid folding flat. The above would provide the following daily servings: (for one person)

2-1/2 cups milk
1-1/2 cups cooked rice
1-1/2 cups cooked beans
1-1/2 cups cooked macaroni
1 cup cooked oats
1 cup flour
4 Tbs. peanut butter
1 miscellaneous can of food
Plus daily sugar and spice

I am not in the business of giving nutritional advice, but it seems that if a half gallon or so of cooking oil, another can per day and a serving of fruit juice (equivalent of another can) are added, which wouldn't fit in this space, you'd be all right for a month. Depending on the assortment of cans, a variety of stuff can be made from these ingredients, including cinnamon rolls, oatmeal cookies, peanut butter cookies, tuna casserole, etc. This box would fit under my bed.-----------Robert Waldrop

ONE YEAR STORAGE FOR FAMILY OF 8

The food types and amounts are what is recommended for 3 females over the age of 12, 1 female age 7 to 12, 3 males age 0 to 6 and 1 male over the age of 12. This is the shopping plan our family has adopted, with extras being added as well. All of these foods are being purchased locally through discount grocers as well as co-ops (our initial plan had been to go directly through Walton's, but we found a local distributor of some of their grains and now we do not have to pay the exorbitant shipping, nor wait extended periods for delivery and can purchase as we can afford, which is more feasible for us) I will only list individual storage suggestions, not cost, but can tell you that the total for one year's food for 8 is$1625.00. This does not include our home canned veggies from the garden, nor the little extras like cocoa and coffee (we have a rotating stock already) nor does it include personal care products or OTC medications. Here goes:

Wheat 1088 lbs.
Flour (enriched) 101 lbs.
Cornmeal 247 lbs.
Oats (rolled) 247 lbs.
Rice (white) 491 lbs.
Pearled Barley 22 lbs.
Pastas 247 lbs.
Dr. Beans(variety) 272 lbs.
Mayo 8 qts.
Veg. Oil 16 gals.
Shortening 32 lbs.
Peanut Butter 32 lbs.
Non-fat dry milk 112 lbs.
Evap. milk 96 cans
Sugar-white 320 lbs.
Sugar-brown 24 lbs.
Molasses 8 lbs.
Honey 24 lbs.
Corn Syrup 24 lbs.
Jams/Jellies 24 lbs.
Dry yeast 4 lbs.
Soda 8 lbs.
Baking Powder 8 lbs.
Vinegar 4 gals.
Salt 64 lbs.
Bleach 8 gals.

Extras we will also use are: tuna, country ham, canned ham, canned chicken, raisins, home dehydrated fruits and veggies, home canned fruits and veggies, tea, coffee, Kool-aid, lemon juice, cocoa, condiments, corn starch, every spice we can possibly think of, hard candies.

Personal Care items and amounts needed:

Shampoo 24 bottles (cheap stuff!)
Soap 30 bars
Deodorant 24 sticks
Toothpaste 12 tubes
Fem. Products 36 packs
Toilet Paper 12 - 24 packs Total Cost: $285.00

Medical/OTC
Tylenol (adult) 500 tabs
Sinus Med. 6 packs
Cough Syrup 4 bottles
Vitamins 16 bottles
Band-Aids 10 boxes
Peroxide 12 bottles
Alcohol 12 bottles
Pepto 2 bottles
Tums 100 tabs
Tylenol (children's) 2 bottles
Total Cost: $140.00

Total of food, personal care and medical: **$2050.00** May I suggest with the OTC meds adding several tubes of antibiotic ointment, anti-inflammatories such as ibuprofen, and in case of GI upset from bad water or food - anti-emetics and anti-diarrheals. Also, for families such as yours with children, something to deal with dehydration from GI problems.

We've acquired initial amounts of all of these items, being sure to date food items with a permanent marker to aid rotation. I keep a printed inventory, so I know how much I need, how much I have, and what I've budgeted for that week. Equipment needs are: Katadyn TRK Filter system, grain mill, Dutch oven, 5 oil lamps (I have several already!), lamp oil, water storage unit, small generator (for freezer only). Total cost: $1000.00. Hubby and I have made sure that everything we plan to purchase now are things we would use under any emergency circumstance. Last year we had a terrible snow storm, roads were impassable, power outages lasted for days and we were not prepared. We've also been through the experience of busted water mains and boil water advisories. Total preparations are a little over $3000.00. For a family of 8 for one year, I don't think that is too bad! Sorry this post is so long, but I hope this is helpful to anyone with a large family who doesn't know where to start (been there, done that :-D!!)

SEVERAL GUYS' SHOPPING LISTS

[I combined several lists here, so there's a lot of duplication. Never mind: it's still useful to scan through and make sure you didn't completely forget something important.]

Food:
Dried beans, peas, and lentils
6 cases Power Bars/Survival Bars
Rice, Pasta
Peanut Butter
Powdered Juices, Gatorade, Iced Tea, Milk, Cocoa
Powdered/condensed milk, cheese
Canned/Dehydrated Fruit, Vegetables, Meats, Tuna Flour
Vegetable Oil/Lard Spices, Salt, Pepper
Whole Grains (Corn, Barley, Millet)
Sugar
Multi-vitamin/minerals - you can buy now with expiration dates of 01

Seeds for Gardening:
Eggplant, Tomato, Green Pepper, Squash, Spinach, Lettuce, Green Beans, Radishes

Herbs to grow indoors in a sunny window:
Basil, Parsley, Oregano

Toiletries:
Soap, Shampoo, Toothbrushes, Toothpaste, Fluoride Rinse, Deodorant, Disposable Razors, Combs, Hair Brush, Sanitary Pads (good as pressure bandages), OTC pain relievers and medications you use now.

Warm, Waterproof, Windproof clothing. Think wool, Gore-Tex, Thinsulate, Polarfleece. Spare pairs of shoes/boots, gloves, hats, socks, underwear. Lots of that stuff is on sale now that it's summer time. If the power goes out in January lots of people will be cold.

Equipment: Some type of water filtration/purification and storage system. I'm using a Katadyne(tm) water filter/purifier.
Can Opener
Food-Grade Airtight Containers
Camp stove and Coleman Fuel (White Gas)
Meat Grinder
HD Aluminum Foil, Oven Roasting Bags, Dutch Oven
Solar Oven, Solar Water Still
Hammer, Roofing Nails, Wood Screws
Hacksaw, Blades, Wood Saw Hatchet, Chisel/Wedge
3' Crow Bar, 10" Wire Cutters
Good sledge hammer (short handle)
Tow Chain/Straps
24" or 30" Bolt Cutters
CO Detector, Smoke Detector, ABC Fire Extinguisher (2)
Duct/100 MPH Tape
Thick, clear plastic to repair/insulate windows
Sewing materials (needles, thread, patches, fabric)
Solar Lights
Paper, Pens, Pencils
Medical/First Aid Kit
Candles, Matches

AND..PAPER GOODS
Toilet Paper
Kleenex
Dinner Plates
Napkins
Plastic knives, forks, spoons
Reynolds Wrap Foil
Ziploc Bags - Sandwich Ziploc Bags - Storage
Rubber dish gloves
Latex disposable gloves
Paper cups

PERSONAL HYGIENE
Soap Bars
Liquid Hand Soap
Liquid Hair Shampoo (Adult)
Liquid Hair Shampoo (Child)
Toothbrushes - Adult - Child
Toothpaste
Dental Floss
Deodorant - Mens - Womens
Shaving Blades - Womens - Mens
Shaving Cream
Mouthwash
Astringent

MEDICINE
First Aid book
First Aid Kit
Cough Drops
Aspirin: Adult - Children's
Pepto Bismol
Cold & Allergy
Feminine supplies
Peroxide
Alcohol
Kaopectate
Prescription Drug supply
Vitamins

Coleman metal dinner plates (to hold cheap paper plates)
Dutch Oven
Grain Mill (non electric)
Dish soap
Hot pad holders
Clothes soap
Various food spices
Scrub pads
Thermos (wide mouth type for cooking food)
Electrolytes

TOOLS/EQUIPMENT
Gas Cans
Rubber Mallet
Hammer
Nails
2 cycle oil (if you have a chainsaw)
Stabil gas treatment
Shovels
Wood saws
Work gloves
Wood Axes - Large - Small
Pry Bars - Large - Small
Rope
Heavy duty bolt cutters (just in case)

HEAT/LIGHT
Propane Tanks
Coleman lantern
Coleman stove or backyard BBQ
Coleman lantern mantles
Butane lighters
Flashlights w/batteries
Flashlight bulbs
Candles - 7 day type
Matches - Stick type
Sterno cooking fuel cans
Bags of charcoal Charcoal
Starter tube
Lamps - Aladdin kerosene type
Kerosene Gasoline Generator (if you want to use this)
Newspapers for starting fire

MISCELLANEOUS

Wind up or solar type radio
Water buckets
Clothes washing buckets - 15 gallon galvanized type
Metal bucket - for charcoals/ashes
Clothesline

Washboard - for clothes
Clothes Wringer (hand crank)
Clothespins
Bicycle tube repair kit
Bicycle tube (spare)
Bicycle tube hand air pump
Bike rack for carrying supplies
Tire pressure gauge
Disinfectant/Cleaner Sponges
Watering can - (for do-it-yourself shower)
5 gallon paint bucket w/lid - emergency toilet
Trash bags - 33 gallon size
Trash bags - 13 gallon size (for toilet bucket)
Toilet seat
Ant spray concentrate
Sprayer/Pumper - 2 gallon size
Portable push vacuum
Fire extinguishers

WATER

Bleach - 1 gallon (5.25%) - to purify water (4 drops/qt. - 2 teaspoons/10 gal - =BC cup/55) Children's pool - rigid wall type - 6 ft. diameter =3D 200 gallons (for washing)
Pool water testing kit
Water chlorinating granules (for pool)
Pool tarp - 11 x 16 ft.
Water can - 5 gallon size
Water bag (collapsible) - 5 gallon size
Water/gas funnels
Water Filter
55 gallon water drums (for drinking)
Water pump for drums (hand type)

STARTERS' LIST FOR PREPAREDNESS

Maybe this little list will help put things in order. I realize this is very simplistic but to start maybe that's best.

Think in large categories.

1) Pray about everything before, during and after you do it.

2) Water - a source. Possibly storage. May be necessary to invest is a filter.

3) Warmth - depends on your location. Wood, propane, solar.

4) Food - simple, sound nutrition, multi vitamins. Wheat, rice, beans, pasta, bullion, dried milk, powdered drink mix, powdered tomato, powdered cheese, dehydrated veggies, oil, honey, sugar, molasses, salt and other spices etc.

5) equipment - grain grinder, Dutch oven, wind up short wave radio, oil lamps,flash lights and batteries, big tubs for washing bodies and clothes.

6) fuel - your choice - wood, propane, coal, solar, oil for lamps

7) proper clothes

8) spend time learning some basic living skills -- baking bread, gardening, cooking with fire, etc.

9) build a little library of info books.

Its a beginning to build on.

ONE GUY'S SHOPPING LIST

Food:

Dried beans, peas, and lentils
6 cases Power Bars/Survival Bars Rice, Pasta
Peanut Butter
Powdered Juices, Gatorade, Iced Tea, Milk, Cocoa
Powdered/condensed milk, cheese
Canned/Dehydrated Fruit, Vegetables, Meats, Tuna
Flour
Vegetable Oil/Lard
Spices, Salt, Pepper
Whole Grains (Corn, Barley, Millet)
Sugar
Multi-vitamin/minerals - you can buy now with expiration dates of 01

Seeds for Gardening: Eggplant, Tomato, Green Pepper, Squash, Spinach, Lettuce, Green Beans, Radishes

Herbs to grow indoors in a sunny window: Basil, Parsley, Oregano

Toiletries:
Soap, Shampoo, Toothbrushes, Toothpaste, Fluoride Rinse, Deodorant, Disposable Razors, Combs, Hair Brush, Sanitary Pads (good as pressure bandages), OTC pain relievers and medications you use now.

Warm, Waterproof, Windproof clothing. Think wool, Gore-Tex, Thinsulate, Polarfleece. Spare pairs of shoes/boots, gloves, hats, socks, underwear. Lots of that stuff is on sale now that it's summer time. If the power goes out in January lots of people will be cold.

Equipment:
Some type of water filtration/purification and storage system. I'm using a Katadyne(tm) water filter/purifier.
Can Opener
Food-Grade Airtight Containers
Camp stove and Coleman Fuel (White Gas)
Meat Grinder
HD Aluminum Foil, Oven Roasting Bags, Dutch Oven Solar Oven, Solar Water Still
Hammer, Roofing Nails, Wood Screws Hacksaw, Blades, Wood Saw
Hatchet, Chisel/Wedge
3' Crow Bar, 10" Wire Cutters
Good sledge hammer (short handle)
Tow Chain/Straps 24" or 30"
Bolt Cutters
CO Detector, Smoke Detector, ABC Fire Extinguisher (2)
Duct/100 MPH Tape
Thick, clear plastic to repair/insulate windows
Sewing materials (needles, thread, patches, fabric)
Solar Lights
Paper, Pens, Pencils
Medical/First Aid Kit
Candles, Matches

AND PAPER GOODS

Toilet Paper=20
Kleenex=20
Dinner Plates=20
Napkins=20
Plastic knives, forks, spoons=20
Reynolds Wrap Foil=20
Ziploc Bags - Sandwich=20
Ziploc Bags - Storage=20
Rubber dish gloves
Latex disposable gloves=20
Paper cups

PERSONAL HYGIENE

Soap Bars=20
Liquid Hand Soap=20
Liquid Hair Shampoo (Adult)=20
Liquid Hair Shampoo (Child)=20
Toothbrushes - Adult=20
Toothbrushes - Child=20
Toothpaste=20
Dental Floss=20
Deodorant - Mens=20
Deodorant - Womens=20
Shaving Blades - Womens=20
Shaving Blades - Mens=20
Shaving Cream=20
Mouthwash=20
Astringent=20

MEDICINE

First Aid book
First Aid Kit=20
Cough Drops=20
Children's Aspirin (Pain Reliever)=20
Adult Aspirin=20
Pepto Bismo=20
Multi Symptom - Tri Cough=20
Cold & Allergy=20
Feminine supplies
Peroxide
Alcohol
Kaopectate=20
Prescription Drug supply
Vitamins

FOOD/SUPPLIES

Coleman metal dinner plates (to hold cheap paper plates)
Dutch Oven=20
Grain Mill (non electric)
Dish soap
Hot pad holders
Clothes soap
Various food spices
Scrub pads
Thermos (wide mouth type for cooking food)
Electrolytes=20

Eliminating food list here, as I still don't know what to buy yet.

TOOLS/EQUIPMENT

Gas Cans=20
Rubber Mallet
Hammer
Nails=20
2 cycle oil (if you have a chainsaw)
Stabil gas treatment=20
Shovels=20
Wood saws=20
Work gloves=20
Wood Ax - Large
Wood Ax - Small
Pry Bar - Large
Pry Bar - Small
Rope=20
Heavy duty bolt cutters (just in case)

HEAT/LIGHT

Propane Tanks=20
Coleman lantern=20
Coleman stove or backyard BBQ
Coleman lantern mantles =20
Butane lighters=20
Flashlights w/batteries=20
Flashlight bulbs=20
Candles - 7 day type
Matches - Stick type=20
Sterno cooking fuel cans
Bags of charcoal
Charcoal Starter tube
Lamps - Aladdin kerosene type=20
Kerosene
Gasoline
Generator (if you want to use this)
Newspapers for starting fire

MISCELLANEOUS

Wind up or solar type radio
Water buckets=20
Clothes washing buckets - 15 gallon galvanized type
Metal bucket - for charcoals/ashes=20
Clothesline=20

Washboard - for clothes
Clothes Wringer (hand crank)
Clothespins=20
Bicycle tube repair kit
Bicycle tube (spare)
Bicycle tube hand air pump
Bike rack for carrying supplies
Tire pressure gauge
Disinfectant/Cleaner=20
Sponges=20
Watering can - (for do-it-yourself shower)
5 gallon paint bucket w/lid - emergency toilet
Trash bags - 33 gallon size=20
Trash bags - 13 gallon size (for toilet bucket)
Toilet seat
Ant spray concentrate=20
Sprayer/Pumper - 2 gallon size=20
Portable push vacuum
Fire extinguishers
Guns & Ammo (if desired)

WATER

Bleach - 1 gallon (5.25%) - to purify water (4 drops/qt. - 2 teaspoons/10 gal - =BC cup/55) Children's pool - rigid wall type - 6 ft. diameter =3D 200 gallons (for washing)
Pool water testing kit=20
Water chlorinating granules (for pool)=20
Pool tarp - 11 x 16 ft.
Water can - 5 gallon size=20
Water bag (collapsible) - 5 gallon size=20
Water/gas funnels=20
Water Filter=20
55 gallon water drums (for drinking)
Water pump for drums (hand type)