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THE JESUS FALLACY!
BELOW YOU WILL READ & LAUGH AT SOME OF THE FUNNIEST POSTINGS EVER TO GRACE A FORUM!
FOR SOME ODD AND UNKNOWN REASON, THESE 'PEOPLE' ARE TRYING THEIR VERY BEST TO "BRING ME TO JESUS"...WELL PRAISE JESUS!
TO UNDERSTAND THE CHRISTIAN a.k.a. 'XIAN' MINDFRAME, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME FORM OF DEMENTIA.
THESE NUT CASES HAVE ME CLASSIFIED AS 'EVIL' JUST BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE MANKIND NEEDS A SAVIOR TO COME RESCUE US!THE REASON THEY WANT TO SAVE MY 'GOD-DAMNED FORSAKEN SOUL" LOL! IS BECAUSE THEY FEEL JESUS WILL GIVE THEM A CROWN AND A BETTER SEAT NEXT TO HIM IN HEAVEN. IF THEY COULD 'ONLY REACH ME FOR JESUS',,, JESUS WOULD LOVE THEM MORE!
THEY CONSIDER ME A 'SPECIAL MISSION' AND THEY ARE 'SENT BY JESUS' TO SAVE ME!
ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THIS:
THE MOTIVATION A XIAN HAS IS NOT FROM THEIR HEART.
WHAT MOTIVATES THEM TO DO 'GOOD DEEDS' IS BASED ON ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY...THEY ARE "KISSING JESUS' ASS".
IF THEY DO GOOD DEEDS LIKE THEY BELIEVE THEY WERE 'COMMANDED TO DO' THEN JESUS LUVS THEM MORE.
IF THEY WERE TO LEARN THE TRUTH AND UNDERSTAND JESUS IS JUST ANOTHER MYTH, EVERY XIAN IMMEDIATELY WOULD STOP DOING WHATEVER DEEDS THEY "DO4JESUS"
HOWEVER, WHEN A XIAN CAN NOT GET THEIR 'WAY' AND -FORCE THEIR GOOD DOWN YOUR THROAT- VIA ACTS OF 'KINDNESS' ,,,THEN THEY WILL GO TO -PLAN B- AND KILL YOU LIKE HISTORY VERIFIES.
RECALL ALL THE TORTURE AND BLOODSHED CAUSED BY XIANITY
-IMPOSING THEIR WILL ON OTHERS-
...XIANITY HAS BROUGHT NOTHING TO THIS WORLD OTHER THAN TERRORISM!
JUST READ HOW THESE PATHETIC LOSERS BEG ME TO
"ACCEPT JESUS AS MY SAVIOR"
...YOU WOULD THINK EVENTUALLY THEY WOULD QUIT IT, RIGHT?
BUT THESE PSYCHOS HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO GO TO EVERY METAPHYSICAL FORUM AND 'CAST THE DEVIL OUT' OF PEOPLE.ANYTHING THAT SEEMS 'SUPERNATURAL' TO THESE RETARDS IS OBVIOUSLY 'SATAN' TO THEM!
IF THEY 'BELIEVE' METAPHYSICS IS 'EVIL' WHY DON'T THEY GO TO A 'PRAISE JESUS' FORM?
THE REASON IS;
THEY ARE MISERABLE BASTARDS AND WANT TO 'SPREAD THEIR MISERY BECAUSE MISERY LOVES COMPANY'!
IT'S THE SAME SHALLOW REASONING THEY UTILIZE TO BOYCOTT EVERY GOOD TELEVISION PROGRAM AND BLOCK ABORTION CENTERS.
IF XIANS DO NOT LIKE SOMETHING, THEN LET THEM TURN AWAY AND TUNE IT OUT AND NOT INTERFER WITH OTHERS FREEDOMS!
HOW FK`N PATHETIC CAN THESE ASSHOLES BE?
THE ANALYSIS OF A TORTURED AND DEMENTED XIAN MINDXIANS ARE THE TRUE EVIL CROWD.
ANY ADULT WHO CAN BASE THEIR WHOLE LIFE BELIEVING IN AN INVISIBLE GOD IS LIKE BELIEVING IN SANTA CLAUS OR THE TOOTH FAIRY.
A PERSON THAT INSANE HAS THEIR OWN SHARE OF "INNER DEMONS".
XIANS ARE THE SERIAL KILLERS AND CHILD MOLESTERS.
THEY ENJOY TORTURING NON-BELIEVERS.
USUALLY THE XIAN BECOMES INSANE AT A YOUNG AGE IF THEY GROW UP IN A XIAN FAMILY.THEIR FATHERS BEAT THEM AND THEIR MOM IS SEXUALLY DEPRIVED. THEIR MOMS AND SISTERS ARE USUALLY BEATEN IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN. IN TURN, THIS LEARNED BEHAVIOR IS DONE FOR ALL GENERATIONS TO COME.
A XIAN CHILD IS PROGRAMMED TO LOVE JESUS AND NO MATTER WHAT THE COST, "PREACH JESUS" TO EVERYONE YOU MEET.
OFCOURSE THE POOR LITTLE XIAN KID WILL NEVER HAVE A REAL FRIEND, AND MOST OTHER KIDS WILL BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THIS JESUS FREAK KID!
BY THE TIME THIS KID BECOMES AN ADULT, HE WILL BE HATED BY SOCIETY AND HAS BECOME A PSYCHOTIC MISFIT.
SO HE JOINS A CHURCH AND THIS ENHANCES HIS OR HERS 'CULT MENTALITY' WHICH IS BASICALLY:
-ONLY XIANS ARE GOOD PEOPLE! EVERYONE ELSE IS EVIL AND DAMNED FOR ETERNITY!-
AREN'T YOU GLAD GOD CHOSE YOU?!
NOW THE XIAN FEELS ELEVATED ABOVE THE REST OF SOCIETY.
THIS WAY, IT MAKES THE XIAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES.
XIANS ALWAYS LOOK FOR SCAPEGOATS (AZAZEL IN LEVITICUS).
IF A XIAN FAILS, THEY HAVE SOMEONE TO BLAME.
RATHER THAN ASSUMING THEIR OWN BLAME, THEY LIVE IN DENIAL AND SAY 'SATAN TEMPTED ME...BUT SATAN TEMPTED JESUS TOO!'
THEY COMMIT SOMETHING MORALLY WRONG THEN UPON COMPLETION PRAY TO JESUS FOR FORGIVENESS...IT'S ALL PRE-MEDITATED.
THEN THE XIAN GOES ON METAPHYSICAL FORUMS AND BREAKS MY GOD DAMN BALLS!
WHAT THESE NARROW-MINDED ANAL RETENTIVE RETARDS CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IS:
A PERSON DOES NOT NEED 'A GOD' TO BE SPIRITUAL.
TO ME, THE CONCEPT OF "GOD" IS DEAD AND WAS KILLED BY KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM. NO LONGER DO WE NEED TO BE CHAINED AND BOUND TO A GOD WHO DEMANDS WE KISS HIS PATRIARCHAL ASS.
WE ARE ALL GOD.
WE ARE ALL MASTERS OF OUR -OWN- DESTINY.I BELIEVE SOME PARTS OF THE BIBLE WERE GIVEN TO MANKIND BY EXTRATERRESTRIALS AND THE REST OF IT IS;
-A COMPILATION OF ASSORTED MYTHS THAT WAS WIDESPREAD PRIOR TO THE HEBREWS EVEN BEING BORN.
-THE REST OF THE BIBLE IS PATRIARCHAL NITWITS TRYING TO SCARE THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE TO TURN THEM INTO SLAVES.
_IT WORKED WELL!_
THE INVENTION OF SATAN AND HELL BROUGHT MORE MONEY TO ORGANIZED RELIGION THAN THE 'LOVE OF GOD' COULD EVER BRING.
FEAR IS A MUCH STRONGER EMOTION THAN LOVE AND THE CHURCH DUDES KNEW IT.
THE HELL WITH SATAN...BEWARE OF GOD!WHAT'S SO IRONIC IS THESE KNUCKLE-HEADS ARE TRYING TO GET ME INTO 'BUYING THIS FEAR BULLSHIT'. NOTICE HOW THEY TRY AND TELL ME 'SATAN HAS ME DECEIVED' ALL BECAUSE I STUDY AND PRACTICE A DIFFERENT FORM OF SPIRITUALITY THAN THESE KOOKS DO.
THEY LABEL ME 'SATANIC' BECAUSE I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN A 'SATAN'!THEY CALL ME 'EVIL' BECAUSE I HAVE STUDIED THE HISTORY OF XIANITY AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A MONEY MAKING SCAM!
HOW DOES KNOWING 'TRUTH' MAKE ME EVIL?
GIVE ME A FK`N BREAK ALREADY!
-THERE'S ALSO SOME CHANNELINGS IN THE BIBLE, WHICH WAS AS COMMON BACK THEN AS IT IS TODAY IN EVERY NEW-AGE KOOK SIDESHOW CIRCUS.
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Now start reading and watch how I, -single-handedly-...&`methodically:
Belittle, Taunt and Disgrace the shit out of these Morons and they keep coming back for more!
I received dozens of E-Mails from people applauding me on and asking me Not to quit posting...they are having wayyyyyyyy too much fun watching me taunt these wackos and prove that , for once and for ALL~
CHRISTIANITY IS FOR LOSERS!
THANKS TO ALL THE XIANS FOR HELPING ME TO CREATE THIS PAGE!
Mike (Guest) (23 posts)
10-Jul-02, 03:22 PM (EDT)
"to all the xians"
I don't need to keep explaining myself. My points came across very LOUDLY in my 'jesus Fallacy' page and posting.
I can't be bothered wasting my time talking to a bunch of lame brained xian losers.
If xianity works for you, then do it and be happy...just don't push your shit on those who don't want it.
All religions topple and fall. xianity has cancer. xianity is terminally ill. People like myself seek to crush it until it gives its final whimper like your pedophile savior whimpered before he went to hell.
I have nothing to say to xians, as I have been through the forums brawls thousands of time. Quite frankly, they bore me.
As usual, the argument goes nowhere, like here.
You, like your bible, is full of contractions.
Heres a simple one:
Luke 19:27 But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
compare that to 'turning the other cheek'.
As for old testament enthusiasts, like CAT, who is probably a jewess, tell me...who is El Elyon?
And don't tell me it's another name for IHVH
And I know the qabala very well, but I personally partake of the qlippothic tradition myself.
Any of you dimwits know what this is -HVSHHI- ?
I don't know...I may just be a glutton for punishment for even talking to you idiots.
Truth (Guest) (4 posts)
10-Jul-02, 03:57 PM (EDT)
1. "RE: to all the xians"
Mike, indeed when you speak of Luke 19:27, it is simple. So simple it is a shame you have missed the obvious. Perhaps you need to quote the verse in proper context rather than out of context. The verse you chose to toss out as a 'contraction',
which by the way means:
Main Entry: con·trac·tion
Pronunciation: k&n-'trak-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1 a : the action or process of contracting : the state of being contracted b : the shortening and thickening of a functioning muscle or muscle fiber c : a reduction in business activity or growth
2 : a shortening of a word, syllable, or word group by omission of a sound or letter; also : a form produced by such shortening
when I think you meant to say 'contradiction' which means:
Main Entry: con·tra·dic·tion
Pronunciation: "kän-tr&-'dik-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : act or an instance of contradicting
2 a : a proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something b : a statement or phrase whose parts contradict each other <a round square is a contradiction in terms>
3 a : logical incongruity b : a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another
(which strangely enough is a simple word and is testament to just how little your master the devil has prepared you for debate.)
...is in fact a Parable and you have yet again, misquoted and misrepresented it. I will however for your benefit provide the full text so that others can see the whole truth and not the half truth you provided.
"The parable of the pounds
11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
As you can see Jesus was telling a Parable. He speaks of a master that went away and what happened upon his return. Jesus is not saying we must slay anyone here. This is a Parable. But you should have known that Mike, after all you are a bible scholar. Friends, the devil is convincing because he mixes lies with truth. That is very deadly. Partial truths can seem like whole truth unless we look into things ourselves. We must be very careful because in these end times, the devil will deceive if possible the very elect.
Mike I know why you curse and rant on this board. There is truth and you are seeing it revealed to you once and for all. You thought your master to be strong but he is just another created being. He gives you what you want now, but in the end what will it be worth to you if the true power was Jesus Christ and you missed out? Better to be a household pet now, but a child of God, than to follow the fallen father of lies whose very days are numbered. Friends when the devil reminds you of your past, of your sins, remind him that Jesus Christ has died for you. That his blood has washed away your sins, and that Satans fate will be death. Remind him of his fate and remind yourself that Jesus loves you no matter who you are. Weak, strong, evil or good. Jesus loves us all. We have merely to accept and believe in him. Read your bibles and find the truth behind this world for yourselves.
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CAT (Guest) (454 posts)
10-Jul-02, 04:43 PM (EDT)
2. "RE: to all the xians"
Mike,
El Elyon means the most high!
Genesis 14:20, "And blessed be God Most High Who has delivered your enemies into your hand."
All heaven is His throne and the earth is His footstool. He rules in the kingdom of men. He judges among them and chooses whomsoever He will. He is righteous in all the works that He
does. His laws were set in the earth by His servants the prophets. His rulers serve and obey Him. His dominion is everlasting. His kingdom is from generation to generation and shall not be destroyed. He is a living God, steadfast forever.
Be exalted, O God, above the heavens and let your glory be over all the earth, El Elyon, The God Most High.
The name El Elyon came from Abraham which at that time spoke Semitic Akkadian displaced with the Sumerian language (Hebrew did not exisist yet.) Abraham came from UR west of the Euphrates. Abraham and his father were pagans. They warshipped sumerian gods for 75 years untill G-D called onto Abraham and away from the other gods. Here is where Judaism started.
El Shaddai, El Shaddai, El Eyon Na Adonia, age to age your still the same by the POWER OF THE NAME!
Erkamka Na Adonai, I will praise you and lift you high!
Now here is the kicker, just because Abraham worshiped pagan gods and associated this name of El Elyon does not make it the devils pagan name! It is just mearly stating that the only way that Abraham knew how to translate the name of the most high was by the name in his language El Elyon! G-D later specifies himself to Moses as he wrote the first 5 books of the Torah as being the FATHER of ABRAHAM, ISAC and JACOB. AND PROCLAIMS HIS NAME AS YAHOVA! (YVH)
CAT...
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TimeTravelActivist (782 posts)
10-Jul-02, 06:31 PM (EDT)
3. "RE: to all the xians"
Mike,
You said you’ve been through these kinds of discussions with Christians thousands of times. Yet when it comes to showing us what you’ve learned and how well you are at debating with them, we see that it was the thousand and one time that finally brought it all into focus, that ended up debunking you.
I read Truth’s and CAT’s post, and I read yours. Maybe you should too and take a look for your self who’s really being inconsistent here, the Christians or You!
-TTA
P.S. I told you, you would be exposed welcome to the TTI forum.
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Mike (Guest) (23 posts)
10-Jul-02, 08:05 PM (EDT)
4. "RE: to all the xians"
Not for nothing, CAT, but Elohim is plural. There's an admittance right there that the godS were more than one. El Elyon is ONE of the gods, and a pagan one to boot.
I know you probably aren't a christian. Quite possible the jesus word annoys you as much as it does me. But out of all the white-lighters here, you are cool (so far, LOL)
The Luke 19:27 detour that the imbocile "truth" (should call you LIE) gave me don't cut it. It's a parable but it's in direct relation to jesus telling his apostles to 'sell your cloak and buy a sword'. So, you're wrong.
Don't give me the 'god is love' bullshit either because if you do, I throw this one at ya:
Psa 58:6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD.
David exhorts God "to dash the heads of his enemies' children on the rocks" and to "break all the teeth in the heads" of his foes. Yahweh supposedly slaughters thousands! Tough love, right? HAHA!
See, to all the people you are hoping to bring to jesus by allowing them to read this forum, I too, hope to pull them away. Verses like above will do it because most xians don't read their bible.
Now, tell me, about satan?
And I will show you, that satan and IHVH is the same dude, just like I proved it in my 'jesus Fallacy' post
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boot (Guest) (21 posts)
10-Jul-02, 08:43 PM (EDT)
5. "RE: to all the xians"
mike,for an ancient myth who never existed, this jesus guy you keep talking about sure has you all riled up. you talk about jesus here more than anyone else on the board, actually more than i've ever heard in any sunday service...what's really bothering you my friend: are you 35, lonely, and still a virgin? perhaps we could find you some nice fella.
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CAT (Guest) (454 posts)
10-Jul-02, 10:42 PM (EDT)
6. "RE: to all the xians"
Mike,
What would it take for you to believe and change your morals from evil to good?
What kind of proof would you need?
CAT...
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TimeTravelActivist (782 posts)
10-Jul-02, 10:43 PM (EDT)
7. "RE: to all the xians"
Mike, you said:
<<See, to all the people you are hoping to bring to jesus by allowing them to read this forum, I too, hope to pull them away. Verses like above will do it because most xians don't read their bible.>>
Well I’m not a Christian Mike, I’m a TimeTravelActivist . And by bull shiters coming on here (especially those versed in the dark arts), I hope to expose them and show them for who they really are.
Do you really think you can turn a whole crowd over on just one biblical scripture, that you misquoted yet again?
Poor naive Mike, you will learn to see the difference yet.
<<Now, tell me, about satan? And I will show you, that satan and IHVH is the same dude, just like I proved it in my 'jesus Fallacy' post>>
Uhhh actually Mike, if I remember correctly, you didn’t get the last word on that thread to prove anything (if you can call bias and ignorance proof) was debunked big time. If you still feel like you have something to prove, just bring it
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Truth (Guest) (4 posts)
11-Jul-02, 11:14 AM (EDT)
8. "RE: to all the xians"
Mike before I start I would like to inform you that I have lifted up your name in prayer at last night's Prayer meeting. I have asked for God to touch you in some way that you may see the truth.
For starters, it is no detour about the parable. The detour is only in the way you word yourself. That parable speaks about the coming of Christ's kingdom. How we each have things given to us and how one day the master will return to see how we have used those "talents". But we do not know when the master will return so we must be ready at all times.
As for chapter in Psalms that you misquote by providing just a snippit as your argument, perhaps it's best if we once again read this in it's proper context beginning from Psalms 54.
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Psalm 54
David, complaining of the Ziphites, prays for salvation with confidence in God's help
To the chief Musician on Neginoth, Maschil, A Psalm of David, when the Ziphims came and said to Saul, Doth not David hide himself with us?
1 Save me, O God, by thy name, and judge me by thy strength.
2 Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth.
3 For strangers are risen up against me, and oppressors seek after my soul: they have not set God before them. Selah.
4 Behold, God is mine helper: the Lord is with them that uphold my soul.
5 He shall reward evil unto mine enemies: cut them off in thy truth.
6 I will freely sacrifice unto thee: I will praise thy name, O LORD; for it is good.
7 For he hath delivered me out of all trouble: and mine eye hath seen his desire upon mine enemies.
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Psalm 55
David, in prayer, complains of his fearful case
To the chief Musician on Neginoth, Maschil, A Psalm of David.
1 Give ear to my prayer, O God; and hide not thyself from my supplication.
2 Attend unto me, and hear me: I mourn in my complaint, and make a noise;
3 Because of the voice of the enemy, because of the oppression of the wicked: for they cast iniquity upon me, and in wrath they hate me.
4 My heart is sore pained within me: and the terrors of death are fallen upon me.
5 Fearfulness and trembling are come upon me, and horror hath overwhelmed me.
6 And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest.
7 Lo, then would I wander far off, and remain in the wilderness. Selah.
8 I would hasten my escape from the windy storm and tempest.
He prays against his enemies, whose wickedness and treachery vex him
9 Destroy, O Lord, and divide their tongues: for I have seen violence and strife in the city.
10 Day and night they go about it upon the walls thereof: mischief also and sorrow are in the midst of it.
11 Wickedness is in the midst thereof: deceit and guile depart not from her streets.
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company.
15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
He finds comfort in God's preserving him and confusing his enemies
16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me.
17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
18 He hath delivered my soul in peace from the battle that was against me: for there were many with me.
19 God shall hear, and afflict them, even he that abideth of old. Selah. Because they have no changes, therefore they fear not God.
20 He hath put forth his hands against such as be at peace with him: he hath broken his covenant.
21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
22 Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.
23 But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.
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Psalm 56
David again complains of his enemies
To the chief Musician upon Jonathelemrechokim, Michtam of David, when the Philistines took him in Gath.
1 Be merciful unto me, O God: for man would swallow me up; he fighting daily oppresseth me.
2 Mine enemies would daily swallow me up: for they be many that fight against me, O thou most High.
3 What time I am afraid, I will trust in thee.
4 In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.
5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.
6 They gather themselves together, they hide themselves, they mark my steps, when they wait for my soul.
7 Shall they escape by iniquity? in thine anger cast down the people, O God.
8 Thou tellest my wanderings: put thou my tears into thy bottle: are they not in thy book?
9 When I cry unto thee, then shall mine enemies turn back: this I know; for God is for me.
10 In God will I praise his word: in the LORD will I praise his word.
11 In God have I put my trust: I will not be afraid what man can do unto me.
12 Thy vows are upon me, O God: I will render praises unto thee.
13 For thou hast delivered my soul from death: wilt not thou deliver my feet from falling, that I may walk before God in the light of the living?
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Psalm 57
David again complains of his dangerous case
To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David, when he fled from Saul in the cave.
1 Be merciful unto me, O God, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.
2 I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.
3 He shall send from heaven, and save me from the reproach of him that would swallow me up. Selah. God shall send forth his mercy and his truth.
4 My soul is among lions: and I lie even among them that are set on fire, even the sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows, and their tongue a sharp sword.
5 Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth.
6 They have prepared a net for my steps; my soul is bowed down: they have digged a pit before me, into the midst whereof they are fallen themselves. Selah.
He is moved to praise God
7 My heart is fixed, O God, my heart is fixed: I will sing and give praise.
8 Awake up, my glory; awake, psaltery and harp: I myself will awake early.
9 I will praise thee, O Lord, among the people: I will sing unto thee among the nations.
10 For thy mercy is great unto the heavens, and thy truth unto the clouds.
11 Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens: let thy glory be above all the earth.
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Psalm 58
David reproves wicked judges
To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David.
1 Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O congregation? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of men?
2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.
delivers them to God's judgments
6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD.
7 Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.
8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
9 Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.
10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.
11 So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.
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Now Mike, as you can see, David is a mere man, praying to God that God may deal with his enemies for him. When he mentions breaking of teeth he is speaking figuratively. Revenge is not ours Mike, it is the Lords. God has never brought pain and death to anyone unless they deserved it. Notice, God always sent someone to warn first. When that failed he sent another. And another. It is when men's wicked hearts failed to be moved by the warnings of God's messengers that God took action. When he says "Let my people go" he isn't kidding. But he still offered the Pharoah some time to change his mind. Any pain, sufferring or death that came after that was his own fault for not doing as God the almighty, and the one and only creator, commanded.
Mike I will continue to lift your name in prayer because prayer is power. It is communication with God and anyone can do it. No one has to do it for you. There is no need for an intermidate because Jesus Christ is our mediator. We can speak to him at any time. Even you Mike, you can invite him into your life. You can see the true power for yourself. If you think it is a lie, then you have nothing to fear, but if you accept my challenge to pray and do so honestly, you will have a whole new understanding of life and our purpose on this earth. You will see the power of my God, our God.
Do you know Jesus Christ as your personal Savior Mike?
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CAT (Guest) (454 posts)
11-Jul-02, 12:00 PM (EDT)
9. "RE: to all the xians"
Truth, your post is FANTASTIC!!!
But this is what is pushing Mike farther away! These parables make no sense to him what so ever! He is completely blocked because he doest like the preeching meathod. Hes associates it with decite and lies. He probably didnt even bother to read through your whole posting above!
Mike is angry with G-D! I would be willing to bet something happend in his life that he thought was exstemely unfair! Maybe death of a loved one? who knows?
But what Mike doesnt understand is that the more power he recieves from darkness the more evil will exspect him to reciplicate back! 7 Fold!!!
If evil is is meathod in percieving the world and understanding G-D. This might actually be the tool in which G-D uses to direct him unto him. Even him creating his evil web site could be the very tool in which G-D is using to exspose him to uncover the answers. Remember the story of Joseph and his vision of the stars and the moon bowing down to him and his saga of being sold as a slave first? sometimes bad has to happen for good and so therefore G-D allows it as a learning tool.
I guarantee that Mike coming to this site with his web site was no mistake and incountering us the religious plague that he so hates!
Sometimes the ones who turn out to be the wisest about religion exsperience hell to the full degree and therefore being exsposed to it is really the best teacher one could ever ask for!
I should know, of all people me!
Mike did you know that Jesus fulfilled all prophecy regarding himself?
Did you know that he died on the eve of the passover? He was the sacraficial lamb! His blood is spiritually used as the lambs blood was used upon the door posts in Egypt so that the pestalance plague of G-D would pass over the houses marked with it. Thats why the holiday is called PASSOVER.
CAT...
WAIT!......HERE'S MORE! LOL
Mike (Guest) (23 posts)
09-Jul-02, 05:06 PM (EDT)
"The jesus Fallacy"
THE JESUS FALLACY - PHALLUS, SEE?
SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH JESUS?
NOTHING...AS LONG AS YOU REALIZE HIS MYTH IS FULL OF HOLES.
I will explain it this way...
I am a biblical scholar and most don't realize this. I have debated on forums with christians for a long time. I will bring up a topic and christians (from this point on a.k.a. 'xians') will start ranting about how I am misinterpreting and twisting and misquoting 'scripture'.
But the funny part of it this. When I ask them to EXPLAIN what I did when I am supposedly " misinterpreting and twisting and misquoting 'scripture' "...
THEY CAN'T.
Ofcourse they CAN'T, because I am NOT misinterpreting and twisting and misquoting 'scripture'.
This is when the xians realize I am a biblical scholar. At this point, xians will resort to all types of tactics. Labeling me 'evil' or changing the subject and mount a massive attack against my credibility, which is useless because they can't prove me wrong. It usually ends when they say they will 'pray' for me.
LOL!
Xians are pre-programmed at their chruch to say stupid things like that. Most xians have never read their whole bible, or they do the lame 'read the bible in a year' program. Ofcourse if it takes a full year to read one book, you will forget most of it by the time you're finally finished.
Again, no coincidence, they're supposed to forget, because if they remembered all the contradictions in it, they would of thrown it in the trash where it truly belongs.
Xians are naive and dumb creatures who all have a guilt and sin 'I'm not worthy' trip going on in their pathetic lives. The only person who rquires a savior is a person hurting. Crutches are for the lame and feeble.
A meek person inherits nothing.
A strong person takes it and will pursue it until they rightfully EARN it.
Inheritance is waiting for somebody to 'hand it over to you'.
Examing the historic jesus, we will find he never even lived. His gospels were written decades after he supposedly died and vanished. None of the gospels were written by the supposed authors,,,do your research. Archeology proves all the history in the old testament is fake.
Under a microspcope the sad myth of this 'jesus' showed him to be a radical and infidel who was homelss. There's alot of lazy insane people who are homeless and blame the government for their own self-afflicted crisis.
His supposed return left people waiting for milleniums and the dopes still wait!
Ofcourse they say it's prophecy, but the kind of prophecy any good con artist can come up with.
For instance, I will prophesy this:
" xians reading this web-page will hate it and say I am evil and a liar"
There ya go...now watch and see if my track record is better than the bible's track record.
jesus is nothing more than a plagarised copy of other myths long before the Hebrews were even born.
Study the Epic of Gilgamesh and all the Sumerian writings. Read all the Egyptian myths and you will see there are hundreds of pagan saviors born of a virgin, died for his disciples and promised to return...where are they?
Hello?
All Deity stories stem from ASTROLOGICAL wonders.
The planets, star systems, etc., were always explained by personifying them and making some bad guys and some good guys.
Now if you want to debate that...YOU BEST HAVE SOME GOOD PROOF TO BACK IT UP!
Don't tell me:
"UMMM,,,DUHHH,,,YOU'RE MISQUOTING THE BIBLE,,UMMM,,,DUHHH"
You want me to lower myself and destroy my self-esteem and go backwards down the path of evolution and force myself to believe god died for my sins because some bitch I don't even know ate a f*ckin' apple?
C'MON PEOPLE!
If you seriously want to learn about how this scam has lasted so long, understand there's alot of money to be made off of gullible people.
The vatican has it's wealth from grabbing land from deceased owners. Purgagtory was a good friend of the catholic church amd hell is an even better money maker.
Scare the hell out of people for $100.
Con man authors eager to make a buck can now come up with " I can tell you when the rapture is coming if you read my $29.99 book"
Evangelists get on your T.V. screen and say the stupidest stuff and pull in million$.
When we are in troubled times bible sales skyrocket.
But anyone serious enough to 'buy' into this nonsense can easily discern for themself they are being conned.
When you have a book supposedly written by god, inspiring humans to write his every 'divine word', you would have the exact blueprint of DNA and scientific reference for Earth's creation. Rather we are told the earth is flat and is in the center of the universe!
When we show it to be illogical, we are told to have "faith"
Now if it had some good quantum physics and told me how to learn the secrets of the universe, then I would enjoy it.
But telling me to pray to some old bastard through the name of his son, and sell my possessions and give them to some poor lazy slob is ridiculous!
Turn my other cheek so my enemy can crack my head open!
Give me a damn break!
If jesus ever walked through a inner city slum and asked people to "come follow me homey", they would alright. They'd follow him and cut his throat and steal his cardboard box shelter!
Two thousand years later, living in a high technical world, we no longer need this stupidy folks.
The ancients didn't understand science and believed the thunder and lightening came from pissed off gods. Now we understand these things, and no longer require mthys to unravel science.
Think of all the sensless killing and plunder done in the name of religion.
All the blood could fill oceans...yet when I won't bend my knee to some senile god, I AM CALLED EVIL!
LOL!
If you, as a person, 'requires' somebody to hold your pathetic hand when times get rough, then you are not a human,... you are a born-again coward.
A household pet needs basic needs supplied to them by their master because they can not function by themselves in a modern world.
If you -consider yourself- nothing more than a stray homeless dog in need of support from an invisible god, then do our world a favor and learn the art of euthanasia.
Because people like 'you' have made this world regress hundreds, no thousands(!), of years backwards.
Xians seek to boycott things 'they feel' others should not have. Alcohol, Gambling, Sex, Television/Movies...if xians do not approve of it, then XIANS should simply STAY THE F*CK AWAY FROM IT!
Do NOT impose your inhibitions on others!
Xians will say they are doing it for YOUR own good, but I beg to differ. Xians can not stand the temptation of having something 'fun' around them!
If a strip-tease bar opens down the road from a xian, they will rebel and whine about it because they know, while they are praying to god to take away this 'evil sin of masturbation and lust', they eventually will go down to that strip-tease satanic place and join in the fun!
To end my notes of observation, I want to express one last thing. xianity is dying out, and is taking on a new face lift.
'New age white lighters' are now joining in the rhetoric and announcing a 'new age of love and light.'
Its the same bullsh!t.
Instead of reading what jesus said, new agers can now offer another dimension...they can 'channel jesus'.
Again, more superstitious nonense.
Magickally speaking, anytime enough people put their energy to something, whether it be mass delusion, hypnotic trance, or just strong belief, the energy does form into a 'unified consciousness'. So now, ofcourse, again metaphysically speaking,,,xians have created their own jesus.
But also know this...
xians have also created their own satan and their own hell as well. so now they are bound by their own laws that they self imposed on themselves. they have literally boxed themselves in by their own mass hysteria and combined lunatic paranoid frenzy!
This energy can be powerful, and wasting it on an 'egregore' like jesus is stupid.
Voodoo, Santeria, any religion where there is blood sacrifice, gives more energy to their gods because it literally feeds them the energy.
Recall all the blood sacrifices in the old testament?
Thousands of livestock daily....the Hebrews fed a god,,,they were the ones who resurrected an otherwise weak storm god named yahweh.
Through the myths, yahweh became satan, the adversary. Basically, if you did not feed the 'yahweh troll', he was no longer "abba"--daddy-- but now your adversary, satan.
If you disagree, then get out a Concordance and do some research of what them 'old hebrew' words mean. Buy an Emphatic Diaglott and do some digging into the new testament greek words.
Study the Dead Sea scrolls, the Apocrypha, the Pseudopigrapha, the Nag Hammadhi scrolls.
Don't tell me the average person has no time to study either.
Instead of sitting in church for hours a week, get behind your computer and do some research.
Your are being swindled and led away down a path that seeks to strip you of your dignity.
why do you think xians are called sheep?
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TimeTravelActivist (782 posts)
09-Jul-02, 06:28 PM (EDT)
1. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Mike,
<<I am a biblical scholar and most don't realize this. I have debated on forums with christians for a long time.>>
I should have known, you sure do sound like a scholar NOT! Bytheway, where’s the scripture in your post people say you keep misquoting? I didn’t see any .
All I read out of your post were your biased opinions, and they weren’t even intelligent ones at that .
I don’t know whom you were posting to, or where you posted before. But it’s obvious you have never posted in a place like this before. You can be rest assured about one thing though, around here people like you have a tendency of becoming exposed .
-TTA
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CAT (Guest) (452 posts)
09-Jul-02, 09:13 PM (EDT)
3. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Nice try Mike, but no go!
You posted above:
<<Examing the historic jesus, we will find he never even lived. His gospels were written decades after he supposedly died and vanished. None of the gospels were written by the supposed authors,,,do your research. Archeology proves all the history in the old testament is fake.>>
Wrong again Mike! I myself can testify to this. I have been to Israel and have been to the site of the old temple and touched the wall with my own hands and have walked with my own two feet around King David's wall, and slept on the mountain of Massada and been to the garden of Gethsemane and the valley of Armageddon, the Sinai dessert and Mount Zion where I almost got mugged!
Where have you been Mike? I can testify that these things and places are real and infact there!
When it comes to understanding religion I think I have a fairly good background to lean back on. I went to Hebrew school and church and got the best of both! and I'm also very open minded to science. I have found that science and religion are one in the same.
I have studies the Hebrew Bible, Kabala, Dead Sea Scrolls and the Apocrypha. There is nothing in there that stipulates evil! And if there was it would be your way of interpreting it wrongly. I have dug deep and I can honestly say that I have found the real answers to life itself and even though I can understand this after 35 years of my life I am just touching the surface in understand what time travel is really all about. I cannot possible teach and explain this to you in a few brief posts but what I can do is plant the seed for you and others to go in search of this information for themselves.
I would suggest Mike to keep reading your Bible, Kabala, Dead Sea Scrolls, apocrypha and the others and maybe it will eventually come full circle around and you will begin to understand.
A little secret about religion...it has everything to do with Biology, mathematics and good quantum physics and the secrets of the universe!
And of course Time Travel!
I don't disagree that the Vatican hides religious information from the public down in the catacombs. You have every right to me bad about the deceptions of religion that deceives all the gullible people into giving there every last penny to the church and religious schemes! It makes me mad too! but you know what? It came from the peoples hearts and the intentions were there and that's all that matters in the eyes of the creator!
And you know what, it must really either hurt you or really piss you off when religious people say they will pray for you. I'm sure it really makes you feel low! And them telling you that would be like a slapp in the face of bad swear words! I dont think people mean that intentionally, that cant possible be knowing your thoughts and feelings obviously that stem from a greater hurt in life.
CAT...
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sonofbabylon (Guest) (17 posts)
09-Jul-02, 07:51 PM (EDT)
2. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Your "faith" is going to be sorely tested here Mike. The spirit of the living God is on your trail. You have already shown that it is you who will not be able to take the heat. You were ready to run at the first sign of resistance to your ideas. You find all kind of inconsistencies with the Bible because your understanding is SHALLOW as it is with all others who have tried to make it of none effect. MUCH better than you have tried. The lying spirits that you have gained your knowledge from, whether you realize it or not, are under the CONTROL of the Living God. Anybody can gain KNOWLEDGE. All the sources you mentioned are not HIDDEN at all. This is all common knowledge. It seems that the only Christians that you have had contact with are apostates to begin with. Talk about the blind leading the blind. If you find inconsistencies in the Bible, it is because you have been unable to go deep enough to discover the TRUTH. Why do you think Christ spoke in parables? It was so people like you would not discover the truth, be converted and therefore immortalize ERROR. Do you actually believe that you can say that you are a legend in your own mind by going on a mind trip and access the demon power, and convince us that you have any relevance as to the truth about anything? Before this is all over, you will be more of a witness FOR GOD to the others on this forum than you will be a witness for your father--the Devil. This is how God uses people like you--for His purposes and for His ends. Don't get me wrong. I FULLY understand the power you have access to, that Creedo claims pitifully the power that he has access to, and the false Jesus that Clara claims that she has access to. The Bible says that the children of darkness have greater knowledge than the children of light in this generation. This is no advantage. Satan is making his great move of deception and we who can see this are not without power either. All things that Jesus did--we can do too. God has been known to send evil spirits to do His bidding at times to reach those who were not totally given over to the adversary. He would not send an angel to such a loathsome place which you place your "faith" in. Now that you have exposed yourself in such an open manner, do not be surprised that the next time you "surf" the realms that an especially evil spirit makes your acquaintance to shock you out of your evil course. I would say the same thing to Creedo and Clara. I hope you don't let your "pride" stand in the way of seeing the truth. You can still be a CHAMPION for God if you receive Him in His visitation. The choice is yours. When you stand before the Judgement Seat of God, this opportunity if lost, will testify against you if you claim any ignorance of opportunities to change your ways. All knees will bow to the sovereignty of God--and this includes you.
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Truth (Guest) (3 posts)
10-Jul-02, 01:11 PM (EDT)
4. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
I believe that Mike is refering to my previous response to his post. It has angered him. But Satan tends to make us proud like I said, then he laughs when we step forward and try to stand on our weak foundation. You have shown your true colors Mike and I'm sorry to say it has only praised God by your response.
You claim that we must be free of this nonsense called "Religion" you say we are like common household pets, and still you claim that weak people should kill themselves. Is this the great plan your master has shown you? Strangely enough it sounds exactly like Hitler's plan. Kill the weak, destroy those that do not go along with us. The strong must survive over the meek. Do you see what such great power got Hitler? Nothing. He ended up killing himself pathetically in a bunker. Is that the great plan your master has for you? The poster above was correct. Jesus spoke in parables because his message spoke against the evils of this world. It helped ensure that the bible would last for all to seek it's knowledge. Those who cared not to seek the truth, the real truth would dismiss it as rubbish, but those that sought in ernest would find it's deepest most inner secrets revealed to them by the holy spirit.
I dare say Mike that your vision for the future holds nothing for those who are handicapped or for the old and weak. Your vision is one of death and pain where only the strong survive. And let me assure you, if your master (your god) had any real power, he would be the only survivor. He is like a raging lion and would devour you in an instant if not for my kind and loving God who protects you despite your freedom to deny him. The devil wants to take as many with him as he can. Read Revelation. We are in those end times my friend. You can still turn back. I don't think that this discussion happened by accident. I believe someone out there is leaning towards salvation and this discussion may save them. So even as you rant and rage in your anger, you may very well be showing the readers out here that it's time to make a decision. In one hand you have eternal life in the other eternal loss. I hope people open their eyes to the truth soon.
And Mike? I will pray for you. I have faith that when I do, you will feel the power of my God as his kindness is placed upon you if nothing more than to give you the opportunity to decide for yourself your own eternal fate. My God is real.
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boot (Guest) (21 posts)
10-Jul-02, 08:25 PM (EDT)
5. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
mike the bible xpert says:
"some bitch I don't even know ate a f*ckin' apple?"
were in the bible does it say eve ate an apple?..not in genesis..
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TimeTravelActivist (782 posts)
10-Jul-02, 10:28 PM (EDT)
6. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Actually Boot, it’s a fruit that has no name in Genesis that Adam & Eve eat. The idea that it’s an apple comes from the author of “Paradise Lost” –by John Milton.
I suppose over time, people have grown accustomed to identifying the fruit from the tree of knowledge as being an apple. However, it is not.
-TTA
P.S. Bytheway, very funny post to Creepo LOL.
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Arcangel (Guest) (1 posts)
11-Jul-02, 00:22 AM (EDT)
7. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
This debate has only proved that those who claim superior knowledge rarley have any wisdom to go with it.
I have a challange for you Mike. For the sake of argument, let's assume the entire bible is fiction and its all just a faded story. Real or not, why has Jesus's message had such a positive impact on billions of people for the last 2000 years? Surely you must have an opnion on that.
Being a bible scholar, can you even tell us what the message is?
Uriel
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TimeTravelActivist (782 posts)
11-Jul-02, 02:07 AM (EDT)
8. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Angel of peace,
I feel that you may be wasting your time on any worthwhile dialogue coming from Mike. His answer to you will go something along the lines of: “People are stupid, they need something to cling to, to make them feel safe.”
I know his type all to well, having dealt with Clara and Creedo. I can personally say Mike will not allow any form of religious reasoning to cloud his occult interpretation of his personal faith he has for his God.
Instead, I propose showing him what his dark God Satan is capable of. If your intention is to save him, then showing him the evil of the dark side and seeing if there is any light of hope within him, is the only way to reach a man like Mike.
-TTA
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boot (Guest) (21 posts)
11-Jul-02, 04:31 AM (EDT)
9. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
"Actually Boot, it’s a fruit that has no name in Genesis that Adam & Eve eat."
i know, it was purposely a loaded question, it seems our resident "bible scholar" mike is stuck on the "apple" thing.
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clara (Guest) (278 posts)
11-Jul-02, 07:04 AM (EDT)
10. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
all gods are aliens. It just depends on which god you care to listen to . Mary was artifically insiminated by an alien race of beings who yes! were superior to us in technology, the darkness was a neccassary step in our evolution. We had to be allowed to learn on our own and through that learning we would become technological to and then it would shrink the gap between ourselves and them . Jesus said ye are Gods. When we grow up enough we will be allowed to join the galactic federation of planets and will use are technology to better our planet and our people . But we must choose this because we have free will. In order to do this we all must become one unit. the very thing that holds us back is religion, organized, that is. No one understands anything because they are to busy listening to humans and not the source. The source is one and many . Many races of off world beings acting as one under the guidance of wisdom not power. . Some being here on earth have arrived at this time to help those that would seek freedom from the so called gods and to help humans claim their rightful place in the cosmos. any being or god who would have you worship him is not working for the light . The light is simply your own self awareness and wisdom. the ability to see beyond your limited vision.
Boot the bible is a mixture of distored history , channellings and alien interfernce. Some of this comes from fear on the part of these aliens that humans will be given the opportunity to leave this planet and travel to other planets. We are a warring and territorial species which puts others in danger of us infilterating there peacefull planets with out darkness. The darkness will have to been exposed and cleared before will we will be allowed to join the confederation. In order to clear it it will have to be exposed. Jesus said all things would be made known that were hidden the truth of all things would be revealed. that is what is happening now . forces are exposing the truth and when someone has been in the dark for so long the light tends to be painfull. this is happening on an individual level and on a massive level . you see they see us as both one unit and individuals. there is no group to join or church to follow we simple belong to the human family . so don't be so hard on the human family they have been through much and have a lot of pain to heal. they aren't stupid in fact there are many here who are highly intelligent they just have not been allowed to use this intelligence to help mankind. YOu my friend are human and right now are just mad because you see others as being stupid , you are afraid of stupidity , as most of us are. We are all the same, we all have problems and we all need to clear them up . good luck as you will need it clara
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CAT (Guest) (452 posts)
11-Jul-02, 10:08 AM (EDT)
11. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Here we go again Clara with your alien rigmarole! and all mannor of fallen angels! You to are one to talk and base facts...
Open your bible up again and read Genesis when Lucifer is cast out of Heaven with 1/3 of the angels that chose to follow him. And than latter these light beings manifested themself threw interbreeding with earth women into human form. THESE ARE YOUR ALIENS, AND ALL MANOR OF THEM!!!
The famous Zacharia Stichen that you so highly regard these days talks about the Enke and the Ananaki as being giants. Yes Zacharia S. pulled this right out of the bible, The bible is very credible to this fact! These giants are stipulated about in the bible as being angelic beings that genetically interbreed with earth woman. The bible comments that because the angelic spirit was to powerfull to be contained in a human body that giants were born of this manipulation. Goliath originated and came about in these perspectives.
I posted a whooper to Creedo recently about his favorite author Barbara Marcinak. I'll see if I can find it and repost it under here for you incase you missed it.
CAT...
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CAT (Guest) (452 posts)
11-Jul-02, 10:29 AM (EDT)
12. "RE: The jesus Fallacy"
Heres the post Clara that I posted to Creedo,
I see you get allot of your resources from Barbara Marciniak. She has been around for some 10 years now with her story about the Pleiadians and Frequencies evolution.
You had mentioned in one of your past posting that you are positively sure that Barbara M. book was 100% correct to you. Barbara also mentions the book of Enoch and its teachings as being very important, but she neglects to specify exactly why? Perhaps maybe its because of what I told you about the fallen angels and their true origin?
These are all things that come from the secret Hebrew transcripts that the demi Gods (aliens/Pleiadians/all manor of them/fallen angels) utilize this knowledge to their advantage! THEY ARE ALL SATANIST AND FOLLOW IN HIS FOOTSTEPS IN STEELING THE DEVINE THRONE AND WAGING WAR AGAINST MAN KIND! In Barbara book she talks about how the aliens took our genetic material and blended it with all manor of theirs. This knowledge of creation can be found in no other place except in the sacred Hebrew transcript scriptures called the "book of formations" and in this is contained the secret keys of creating life with the Hebrew letters of G-Ds name JVH (Yud, Vav, Hey.)(They, the aliens) "DID NOT" create these sacred transcripts because it was written in spirit and light with the DEVINE AUTHORSHIPS SIGNATURE OF THE NAME OF G-D.
She is caught ever so helplessly into spreading this message to find and tune into your frequency in the name of a hostile alien control system and takeover. I think this is a guisefull deception in evading the truth so that these aliens can use us for their disposal! AS BARBARA TALKS ABOUT THESE ALIENS AS NEEDING THIS FREQUENCY FOR "FOOD!!!" Are you so sure that this frequency that Barbara speaks about is the correct one? I believe there is one true G-D of spirit and light and only one frequency and song that reunites us with him, and this song would be the song of the Lamb regarding our SALVATION!!!
CAT...
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