Hootie and The Blowfish 1/03/03
Intro:
The band has benefited from this collaborative effort immensely, judging from the
many fans around the world. Recently I was able to talk to Mark about his music,
songwriting and his work both in and out of Hootie. The results were what you
would expect from a member of this honest band-open and upfront.
Right: Hootie
and The Blowfish (Mark Bryan is on the far left)
E.C.: When did you start playing music? Was the guitar the first instrument you picked
up?
Mark: I started playing guitar when I was 10. I'm left-handed so I naturally held it as
such. The old dude who was teaching me made me flip it over because he "didn't
know how to teach me left handed." Who knows I might have been a virtuoso.
Anyway I put it down for a couple of years, then look a guitar class in junior high
when I was 14. I quickly learned "TNT" by AC/DC and I've never looked back.
E.C.: What bands/artists had a big influence on you when you first started playing?
Mark: I heard "My Generation" on the radio when I was about 14 and remember being
immediately taken by the energy. It was mostly classic rock until high school
at which point I got into The Police, U2, and R.E.M. I always liked George
Benson.
E.C.: Was Hootie and The Blowfish your first band or did you play with any other
bands in your hometown before that?
Mark: I played with Dean, our bass player in a high school cover band called Missing
In Action. I also had a band in Maryland that played in the summers during
college. We were called The Norms, and that's where I first started doing original
music.
E.C.: How did you meet the other members of the band?
Mark: When Dean and I both decided to go to school at the University Of South
Carolina, Darius lived on our hall in the dorm. Darius and I started playing
acoustic shows as The Wolf Brothers, then we got Dean on bass and started
Hootie. By senior year, Soni and I had a class together, and we were looking
for a drummer. Plus Soni played soccer for USC, and Darius' girlfriend had
a crush on him, so we knew him.
E.C.: I recently spoke to another musician from D.C who says he remembers getting
demos from you when Hootie was just starting out. Were there any DC based
bands that you enjoyed while growing up?
Mark: I loved Tommy Keene. I would see him and like The Meatmen at the 9:30, or
The Replacements at The Bayou and I would just be starstruck. He has some
really great songs. In MIA we used to cover DC Star's "Is It You" and Face
Dancers-"Red Shoes."
E.C.: Hootie and The Blowfish formed in 1986. You basically just played anywhere and
everywhere to get noticed. Was is it hard to keep up this pace without some kind
of record label support?
Mark: The hard part was traveling with 6 dudes in a van, but every time we went back to
a market, more people would show up to see us than the last time. By 1993 we
had sold 25,000 copies of our own stuff without any record label support.
E.C.: What do you miss about those early days? Is there anything you would like to
forget?
Mark: I miss the innocence of being the underdog, the time when no one put un-
realistic expectations on our success. I don't miss playing a shit club in say,
Virginia Beach on a Tuesday to like 4 people.
E.C.: After many years of persistence, Hootie signed to Atlantic Records in 1993.
Cracked Rear View came out the next year. Were you prepared for the huge
sales that followed?
Mark: No, we thought we could maybe sell like 200,000, but we were fortunate in
that our success was based on us being ourselves-musically and otherwise.
E.C.: At the same time that fans were going crazy, there also was a critical backlash
against the band. How did you counter the critics who said your music was
either bland or just too mainstream?
Mark: I actually didn't try to counter that. In some ways I agreed. I'm a big enough
music fan to know that we weren't exactly knocking down doors of innovation.
But we were real; our sound is a true representation of our 4 styles coming
together, and people really like it. We were also young. I think that as time
goes on and we become better, more rounded musicians, our styles will continue
to develop. If you don't like it, don't listen. We know plenty of people who will.
E.C.: Your second album-(Fairweather Johnson) seemed to go to great lengths to explore new musical territories. Different textures and instrumentation was used and it may have surprised some of your hard-core fans. In retrospect were you happy with the results?
Mark: Yeah, we have no regrets. We had like 30 new songs at the time, and it was time
to move on from Cracked Rear View. I don't think we tried to reinvent ourselves,
we just wanted to evolve a little.
E.C.: 1998's Musical Chairs seems to be a mixture of some "signature" pop songs
but again expanding your sound with some country and even blues-influenced
songs. What are some of your favorite songs from that CD?
Mark: I really like "One By One", it's kind of an alt-country thing. I feel like
"Wishing" is one of our best rockers and "Home Again" is a hit song that
never got the chance.
E.C.: Can you go into more detail about how a new song is created? How is it a
collaborative effort?
Mark: We literally even write lyrics together. Some songs come in further developed
than others, but they all get the full Hootie treatment before they make it to
a CD. We'll jam on a riff or chord progression until it feels good, and if someone
already has a melody or a lyric, we'll start there, but everyone keeps an open mind.
E.C.: Obviously you've played so many shows that some may be a blur. Are there any
shows that still stick in your head for some reason?
Mark: I loved playing our home football stadium at USC for Farm Aid '96. Our set felt
great and Son Volt was unbelievable. I remember seeing them from out in the
crowd, and I got choked up because it sounded so good. There are many others.
Some of the overseas shows were special. There is something about having your
music accepted by a different culture.
E.C.: What musicians outside of Hootie would you like to write songs and/or play with?
Mark: The Boss, Stewart Copeland, Paul Westerberg, Flea.
E.C.: What are some Hootie tracks that you never get tired of playing of and are
there any that you would like to retire forever?
Mark: I love playing "Honeyscrew" from Fairweather and we sort of rework all
the songs that get old, so we don't burn out on them.
E.C.: In 2000 Hootie released Scattered, Smothered, and Covered. Whose idea was
it to do an "all-covers CD"? Some other bands have pretty poor track record
with this-Guns and Roses The Spaghetti Incident immediately comes to
mind.
Mark: We just had a bunch of tracks that we'd recorded and never released, and
we knew we weren't going to put out an original CD anytime soon, so we
did it for our fans.
E.C.: Did you get any feedback through any channels from some of the artists you
covered?
Mark: Yeah, Radney Foster and Bill Lloyd were psyched. Walter Salas Humara
showed up at The Bottom Line and did "I'm Over You" and "Commodore
Peter" with us. 54-40 was always happy with "I Go Blind." John Croslin
from The Reivers showed up at The Fillmore in San Francisco.
E.C.: 2000 also saw the release of your first solo CD-30 On The Rail. Were some
of these songs recorded with Hootie that did not make the cut?
Mark: Yeah, we always seem to have a surplus. Songs don't get nixed because they
are bad songs, we just keep the ones that are working the best within the combo
at that particular time.
E.C.: The liner notes credited all the songs to you except one of the standout tracks "City By The River"-which was credited to all of Hootie. Is this the Hootie single that got away?
Mark: Actually that is my song. The reason we credited Hootie is because the band
ended up recording it for the JESUS soundtrack based around the made for
TV movie. Every song we record as Hootie, gets the publishing split four ways,
regardless of who wrote it originally.
E.C.: It seems to be more guitar-oriented and harder rocking-was that a goal
for you while recording these songs?
Mark: No, that's just what happened.
E.C.: This CD was also about going back to your roots. You went back to the studio
where Hootie recorded your early EP-Kootchypop and worked with Don Dixon again-how was that experience?
Mark: It was phenomenal. Having Dixon producing and playing bass, Fred LeBlanc from
Cowboy Mouth on drums and Peter Holsapple on various other instruments, in
the studio where Murmur and Reckoning were recorded, felt legendary.
E.C.: Did you get to jam a lot with the musicians involved? Did you ever rock out
to "Praying Mantis" for instance?
Mark: No, we did 15 songs in 10 days, so we stuck to the album material. We jammed
on my stuff-if you listen to the end of the album, you can hear Fred throw his
drumsticks down and scream-he was naked at the time. (No lie).
E.C.: Will there be a follow-up to 30 On The Rail?
Mark: Yes, I have another stack of songs. I'm trying to record these with The
Occasional Milkshake, a three piece side project that I started with
Hank Futch, the upright bass player for The Blue Dogs and Gary Greene
Hootie's percussionist. Like the name says though, we only play when
both bands are off, so it's been slow coming together.
E.C.: You also tried your hand at producing another artist recently? What was that
like?
Mark: I've produced two full length albums since August of 2002. Five Way Friday
and Patrick Davis, both South Carolina artists. Their CD's are available on the
Hootie website. I enjoyed it. It's a lot of work, but its cool being on the other
side of the board. Kind of like coaching as opposed to playing ball. When you
get into an artist, you get a vision of how their CD can sound, and you try and
focus the project in that direction, arranging songs and parts. It's challenging,
but highly satisfying when it's complete.
E.C.: Can you tell us the story behind Handpicked Records and your involvement
with it?
Mark: We had a label named Breaking Records to which Atlantic Records was the
parent company. After little success, Atlantic decided not to pick up our option.
I decided to go to the label and suggested putting a little money into a bunch
of up and coming artists, as opposed to a bunch of cash into one. Kind of in the
vein of Aware. They liked it, and our second Handpicked compilation will be
be available in April. Also on our website.
E.C.: What bands/artists have made an impact on you lately?
Mark: The Old 97's have a great combination of rocking energy and clever
songwriting. Their singer, Rhett Miller just released a solo CD that is as
good as The 97's. The list goes on.
E.C.: The new self-titled CD from Hootie comes out in March 2003. One of the big
changes I noticed was the change in producer. Why did you decide to work
with someone other than Don Gehman this time around?
Mark: After taking four years off and changing management, we felt it was time to
start over, try something different, a new approach.
E.C.: How has this influenced the recording sessions?
Mark: Well for one thing we recorded most of the album live with everyone and
their instruments in the same room. We also used some drum loops for the
first time. We built the loops with our own sounds. It was an overall looser
approach. Don Was is a great producer/musician with great feel and a
wonderful vibe.
E.C.: What new tracks are you most excited about?
Mark: I love "Go and Tell Him" because it just flat out rocks, and it has a unique
arrangement. I also love "Little Brother", an outtake from Darius's album that
marks the first time we really achieved the R&B direction we've always sought.
E.C.: How many guitars do you own and which ones are your favorite to play?
Mark: I have about 25 different stringed instruments. Gibson's have always been
my favorites, but I really love this '59 Gretsch that I've been playing with
The Milkshake, and recording with. I also have a Sam Bush model mandolin
that I have fallen in love with.
E.C.: What do you see your future to be with both Hootie and your solo career?
Mark: I have no idea. That's the fun part isn't it, you just kind of go with the flow.
I love to write, play and record and I will continue to do these things. I hope
Hootie and The Blowfish lasts a long time. I mean if we stop sounding good,
or stop enjoying it, then it's over. But it sure feels good right now.
E.C.: In 2003 will Hootie start up another world-wide tour for the new CD?
Mark: Yes, we plan on touring as much as possible. I guess it's somewhat
dependent on how well the album does, and on what our overseas demand
turns out to be. We haven't toured internationally in 4 years.
E.C.: Thanks for your time. I'm sure all your fans are eagerly awaiting what's
next for you and Hootie and The Blowfish.
Mark: Cheers!
Hootie and The Blowfish-Fishco Records (Demo)-1991
Time-(Demo)-1991
Kootcypop EP-1993-Fischo Records
Cracked Rear View-1994-Atlantic Records
Fairweather Johnson-1996-Atlantic Records
Musical Chairs-1998-Atlantic Records
Scattered, Smothered and Covered-2000-Atlantic Records
Hootie and The Blowfish-2003-Atlantic Records
30 On The Rail-2000-Atlantic Records
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