also zen/chan, zen used to be celibate centuries ago
i do think theres strong differentials between male and female celibacy
but its a heightened state of being that has strong utility for cfs especially for men
a path of practicality that used to be commonly walked
but all the ethos and theory of celibacy has pretty much gone i think with the advent of easy contraception
people can only ridicule mother teresa when they should be in awe