i was thinking of mother teresa, john of the cross and saint teresa


also zen/chan, zen used to be celibate centuries ago


i do think theres strong differentials between male and female celibacy


but its a heightened state of being that has strong utility for cfs especially for men


a path of practicality that used to be commonly walked


but all the ethos and theory of celibacy has pretty much gone i think with the advent of easy contraception


people can only ridicule mother teresa when they should be in awe