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Sleepless in Fulham: Rambling and gambling by David Young
Tuesday, 16 May 2006
Debunking a couple of poker myths.
Topic: Poker
Here are two myths concerning the British poker scene that I would like to debunk:

'You'll be all right!'

It's sad to see the otherwise brilliantly well informed Joe Beevers attributing the phrase 'You'll be all right' to Neil Channing. Although the latter uses it quite a lot, the phrase belongs firmly to Francis Rohan. I thought Miros had alluded to this somewhere on his blog, but I can't find it anywhere. Perhaps it was a comment on someone else's. Whatever the case, the next time you rubbish like this:

In the immortal words of the unknown Gutshot member 'You'll be alright'.

You'll know better.


The demise of UKPOKER

Another common myth is that Mark Strahan's poker website fell into decline after he made it pay-per-view. While it's probably true that this led to a fall in traffic, the more significant decline in its popularity and influence happened long before that. It was when he switched forum providers away from Bravenet towards some other system that readers found less user-friendly. Traffic nosedived immediately. Several people wrote in to request that he revert to Bravenet*, but Mark was adamant.

I recall seeing Jon Shoreman (who has rival site Poker In Europe) and hearing him say about it - 'It's great! The more people tell him he's made a mistake, the more stubbornly he sticks to it'. Mark did eventually revert to Bravenet about a year later, but the damage was irreversible. One reason for this was that not longer after the forum change, the Hendon Mob website started. Within a few weeks someone posted a piece about the failure of an attempted online poker site that had sought out investors from the British poker community. The post was taken down after a few days because it was considered defamatory. (I printed it because I could see this would happen). While it was on display, traffic to the Hendon Mob forum exploded and it grew from there. That was where Strahan blew it.

* The reason for the switch was that he wanted to save the $99 per annum fee to keep Bravenet free of pop-ups. I think this proved to be a false economy in the long run.

_ DY at 5:55 PM BST
Updated: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 6:00 PM BST
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Wednesday, 17 May 2006 - 1:27 AM BST


No, actually...

At the time UK Poker only had the impenetrable Poker Europa for competition, which eventually improved.

The content on UK Poker was pretty poor and early on it was obvious that Mark was looking to cash-in on the new craze.

When THM and Gutshot entered the scene they immediately appealed to their "fan" bases as poker is essentially a "sport" for the image obsessed.

It was also very odd that someone based in Dublin was running what was meant to be a UK poker site. A certain detachment that could not have helped.

As poker became more popular, new devotees would gravitate either to a site run by LNP players they saw on TV or one run by some crafty cockney they met in a game one night. Mark had no fans (still doesn't) and no attachment with the UK scene.

Regarless of who served his forum he would never have survived the moment the Hendonians and Craftonians entered.

Wednesday, 17 May 2006 - 2:47 AM BST

Name: David Young

Interesting point - you do agree with me that the decline predates the decision to go 'pay per view'. Thanks for that support. I get so fed up of reading this myth, because I know it's utter nonsense. But perhaps he was doomed once more attractive alternatives appeared on the scene. As it stands, it did chronologically coincide with the Bravenet fiasco.

Prior to Mark's move to Dublin to work on an IT contract, he did used to play a lot in the southern scene. I'm fairly sure he was a regular at Reading. I certainly knew him long before he started UKpoker.

DY

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