Message #25 (32 is last):
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:39:00 -0700
From: AZGovernor@Earthlink.net ("AZ Governor's Race 2k2")
Subject: Fw: [lpaz-discuss] (fwd) RE: Is Barry Hess really taking matching funds?
To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com



----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Hess <BarryHess@earthlink.net>
To: <lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] (fwd) RE: Is Barry Hess really taking matching
funds?


> Dearest Rick and/or Kathy;

>

> Your true colors are showing....Thank you for your willingness to jump to

> wrongful and distorted conclusions as you note below.  I appreciate your

> assumption that there's no way in Hell I can win.  Further, wouldn't it be

> better and more honest to simply ask 'me', if I was accepting 'matching

> funds'?  The lying coward of a so-called Libertarian who started this

> nonsense with their gnome-like mental idget-ry should get great solace

from
> you should have you out for a beer.

>

> Just for the record:  I have not, and at no time did I relay to anyone

that
> I was going to accept said "matching funds".  Further, if you aren't

> completely familiar with the actual guidelines of the Clean Elections Act,

> you have no standing even for comment.  And finally, just to point out the

> ignorance you display, I will make note that nobody, from any party, is

> 'signed up' for the Clean Elections Act, mainly because there is no place

to
> sign up, and if you knew what you were talking about, you would know that

> the program doesn't even start until August 1st....that would be tomorrow.

>

> My only intent is to do all that I can to actually realize FREEDOM,

nothing
> more, and nothing less.  And I will not sit back while pseudo-freedom

> fighters continue to kick those of us willing to forward the real cause of

> restoring FREEDOM,in the side.

>

> As always, I remain at your service--

>

>                                                       Barry Hess

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Rick Tompkins/Kathy Harrer <spooner@gbis.com>

> To: <lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:32 AM

> Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] (fwd) RE: Is Barry Hess really taking matching

> funds?

>

>

> > At 07:08 AM 7/31/01 -0400, you wrote:

> > > ""

> > ><> wrote:

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, this is a troubling trend that has been taking root

> within

> > > the LP for quite a while now, and my estimate is that it will cotinue

> on

> > > that path until a paradigm of ethics and integrity is injected into

the
> > > veins of the party. As far as I'm concerned, that won't be happening

at
> any

> > > time in the near or distant future.

> > >

> > > Although I do personally like Barry Hess as a friend, I must say that

> I'm

> > > not surprised at the opportunity to take state matching funds, just to

> win a

> > > gubernatorial election. If the national and state parties won't

campaign
> on

> > > maintaining their ideological purist stands on the issues and, at the

> same

> > > time, establish national and state policies on ethics and integrity in

> > > campaign fundraising and party practices, then the LP will never have

a
> shot

> > > at drastically reducing the cost, size, and scope of the government,

as
> we

> > > know it.

> > >

> >

> > And you heard it here first:

> >

> > Despite a rather fatuous insistence on "positive thinking" and all that

> > folderol (being upbeat and "thinking positive" isn't a bad thing at all,

> IF

> > SINCERE and

> > not carried to nauseating extremes, but insisting "I'm going to win"

when
> > you _know_ -- or should know -- there's no chance in hell is just

> dishonest);

> >

> > And despite the willingness to be "practical" or "pragmatic;"

> >

> > And despite the "join 'em in order to lick 'em" strategy;

> >

> > And no matter how much money is spent (and especially stolen money);

> >

> > Hess will not come even close to winning the governorship.

> >

> > The irony is that even if such tactics were to yield a "victory," it

would
> > be so

> > hollow as to be worse than useless, for obvious reasons. The term

> "Pyrrhic"

> > comes to mind.

> >

> > Rick

> >

> >

> >

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>

>



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