Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:15:24 -0700
From: Tavares@alum.mit.edu ("C. D. Tavares")
Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] Fw: ::: shudder :::
To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
At 10:00 AM -0500 6/20/01, you wrote:
> Ah, those precious unguarded moments!
>
>>Okay. Is anybody ELSE horrified by this???
>>[Colin Powell] - "Finding the Russian scientists may be a problem being
> that
>>Russia does not have a Social Security System, as here in America, that
>>allows us to monitor, track down and capture an American citizen"
>>
>>--Fox News Sunday 06/17/01, being hosted in the first segment by Tony Snow.
Beware. This MAY be a hoax.
From: ScanThisNews [mailto:mcdonalds@airnet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:41 AM
To: ScanThisNews Recipients List
Subject: [FP] Ruse Message About Sec. Powell's SSN Comment?
SCAN THIS NEWS
7.19.2001
An email message is circulating which claims that, on last Sunday's FOX News
program, US Secretary of State Colin Powell made the following comment:
"Finding the Russian scientists may be a problem being
that Russia does not have a Social Security System, as
here in America, that allows us to monitor, track down
and capture an American citizen"
In my opinion, the message has all the earmarking of a ruse or an attempt to
start an "urban legend," not unlike the false Janet Reno quote about
Christians that never happened. I strongly question the accuracy of the
Colin Powell story.
In the first place, Russia does in fact have a social security system much
like the one here in the United States (as do some 170 other countries). I
am including detailed information on this fact below. I find it hard to
believe that Colin Powell is not aware of this easily researched fact.
Secondly it is extremely hard to believe that Colin Powell would make such a
lame comment. While it is obvious that SSN databases are used to locate and
track Americans, it is doubtful that he would express this fact as an
analogy to Russia.
ScanThisNews will not circulate the Colin Powell rumor until it is
substantiated with some hard facts -- such as a transcript of the news
program in question.
If this turns out to be a ruse, I would conclude that the perpetrators are
either agents who expect to benefit from it in the long run by discrediting
those who are interested in such subjects, or someone who simply has no clue
as to what's going on and should never be trusted.
Following is some relevant research I prepared which can be found in my SCAN
SSN FAQ:
http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page6/fp-ssnfaq.htm
Social Security is Global
As a consequence of various international treaties, every industrialized
nation has instituted a national "social security" program. Under the GATT
agreements, every signatory country is required to "register" (number) all
child at birth. Presently, over 170 countries currently have a social
security system in place. The list includes every major country in the
world.
In terms of population, the world's 10 largest countries which have a social
security system are:
1. China 1,210,000,000
2. India 968,000,000
3. United States 268,000,000
4. Indonesia 210,000,000
5. Brazil 165,000,000
6. Russia 148,000,000
7. Pakistan 132,000,000
8. Japan 126,000,000
9. Bangladesh 125,000,000
10. Nigeria 107,000,000
Followed by the next 15 largest countries: Germany, Mexico, Italy, France,
Philippines, Turkey, Thailand, Egypt, Spain, South Korea, Poland, Iran,
Burma, El Salvador, and Ethiopia, each with a population of between 30 and
80 million people.
The complete list of Countries with existing Social Security programs
includes:
Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Antigua-Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia,
Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados,
Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bermuda, Bolivia, Botswana, Brazil, British
Virgin Islands, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burma (Myanmar), Burundi, Cameroon,
Canada, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia,
Congo (Brazzaville), Congo (Kinshasa), Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia,
Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominica, Dominican Republic,
Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji,
Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada,
Guatemala, Guernsey, Guinea, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hong Kong, Hungary,
Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica,
Japan, Jersey, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Korea-South, Kuwait,
Kyrgystan, Latvia, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania,
Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands,
Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Micronesia, Federated States of Moldova,
Monaco, Morocco, Nepal, Neherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria,
Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Panama, Papua, New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru,
Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Kitts & Nevis,
Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, San Marino, Sao Tome and
Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia and Montenegro, Seychelles, Sierra
Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South
Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria,
Taiwan, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey,
Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay,
Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, Western Samoa, Yemen, Zambia, and
Zimbabwe
[http://www.ssa.gov/statistics/ssptw97.html]
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