UFO over Keller, Texas USA

By Dave Lieber

The following is a transcript of an interview with Star-Telegram photographer M.L. Gray and Star-Telegram columnist Dave Lieber concerning Gray's photos of an unidentified flying object which he spotted on the afternoon of Nov. 30, 1998 near Keller, Texas.

QUESTION. OK, first M.L., please don't be messing with me. Do you swear on a stack of bibles that what you're going to tell me is true? I just got back from vacation today and have no time for any silly games.

ANSWER. No games. It's all true.

Q. OK, start at the beginning and tell me EVERYTHING. Where were you going, when and why, etc.?

A. It was Monday afternoon between 4:30 and 5 p.m. I was on my way home from work. I was in a hurry, in fact, because my wife had to go to school and I had to watch my daughter. About the time I got to Southlake -- heading west on Southlake Boulevard (Farm Road 1709) out of Grapevine, I noticed a bright light to the west, pretty much directly over the road in front of me. It struck me the way anything else bright in the sky would: you try to identify it and then go back to what you're doing. But this light changed. It grew from a small spot, slowly, into an extremely bright light. Approximately one-fourth the brightness of the sun. And then it began to dim. This process took about eight to 10 seconds. At first I thought, "How unusual. Perhaps it's a supernova and the light is reaching the earth for the first time." Because it was very unusual.

Q. And then?

A. And then it caught my eye so much, I kept a tight look on it. The light did not completely disappear. It turned back into an object. That really caught my attention. The object was so far away it was impossible to make out a clear shape. It was basically a speck in the sky. But the unusual thing about this speck was that it didn't seem to be moving anywhere. So I kept an eye on it, trying to avoid a car wreck at the same time. I was looking for a place to pull over and take my camera out. About the time I got my camera out and was ready to shoot, the object began to descend not an angle, but straight down. From my best estimate, I guess the object was about three miles away. I guess it descended a thousand feet in a few seconds. And then it stopped again after the descent. Now I was really curious.

Q. I'll bet.

A. It slowly began to hover, still very high in the sky at this point. And it moved back and forth in a very unusual and seemingly pointless manner. By this time I had my longest lens trained on it -- which was a 300 millimeter. I desperately needed a 1,000 millimeter, but I began to shoot anyway. The object continued in its meandering path for about 30 seconds, as I continued to shoot photos. I shot about 15 frames or so, and at that point it disappeared. I could no longer see it.

Q. Were you in Keller?

A. By this time I was in Keller. I lost sight of it when I got to the corner of Rufe Snow Drive and Farm Road 1709. I shot about 10 frames in Southlake and another five frames in Keller.

Q. Do you think it was flying above Keller?

A. No, probably two to three miles west.

Q. That would put it close to Interstate 35, right?

A. Probably even a little further west than that. I got the sense it was very large and had to be a long way away.

Q. What color was it?

A. The light that appeared at first was a blazing white. Whiter than the sun at first. A pure white. And then it faded into an object that was very gray and mute in tone. But it had a brightness of its own. It's hard to explain.

Q. Was the sun out at this point?

A. Yes, it was. It was in the sky, but it was about 10 degrees to the left of it, south of it.

Q. So could it have been a reflection of the sun on something?

A. Possibly, but I've never seen an object drop from the sky in the manner this did.

Q. Could it have been a weather balloon?

A. Again, balloons don't tend to drop like that -- and that quickly.

Q. An airplane or a helicopter?

A. The bright light at first I saw ... I couldn't say it was not a reflection. But if it was, it was one of the most intense reflections I'd ever seen. At the same time, everything else that happened after that was very unconventional. When you put it all together, it was highly unusual.

Q. Who have you told about this?

A. Only a few of the people that I work with that I thought might enjoy hearing about it.

Q. You have experience photographing objects in the sky, don't you?

A. Yes, in fact, it's been said I shoot way too much in the sky. I photograph just about every aerial and atmospheric phenomenon that's known. Everything from rainbows to lightening. I've done it all. But this was something very different.

Q. M.L., what do YOU think it was?

A. That's a good question. (Long pause.) Since the skies around D/FW are some of the busiest skies around the face of the planet, I can't say that it's not a plane or something of that kind. However, my instinct is this object was not something conventional that people see everyday. I would say it was something brand new in the commercial or military establishment or something that's paying us a visit from a long ways away.

UFO over Keller By Dave Lieber The following is a transcript of an interview with Star-Telegram photographer M.L. Gray and Star-Telegram columnist Dave Lieber concerning Gray's photos of an unidentified flying object which he spotted on the afternoon of Nov. 30, 1998 near Keller, Texas. QUESTION. OK, first M.L., please don't be messing with me. Do you swear on a stack of bibles that what you're going to tell me is true? I just got back from vacation today and have no time for any silly games. ANSWER. No games. It's all true. Q. OK, start at the beginning and tell me EVERYTHING. Where were you going, when and why, etc.? A. It was Monday afternoon between 4:30 and 5 p.m. I was on my way home from work. I was in a hurry, in fact, because my wife had to go to school and I had to watch my daughter. About the time I got to Southlake -- heading west on Southlake Boulevard (Farm Road 1709) out of Grapevine, I noticed a bright light to the west, pretty much directly over the road in front of me. It struck me the way anything else bright in the sky would: you try to identify it and then go back to what you're doing. But this light changed. It grew from a small spot, slowly, into an extremely bright light. Approximately one-fourth the brightness of the sun. And then it began to dim. This process took about eight to 10 seconds. At first I thought, "How unusual. Perhaps it's a supernova and the light is reaching the earth for the first time." Because it was very unusual. Q. And then? A. And then it caught my eye so much, I kept a tight look on it. The light did not completely disappear. It turned back into an object. That really caught my attention. The object was so far away it was impossible to make out a clear shape. It was basically a speck in the sky. But the unusual thing about this speck was that it didn't seem to be moving anywhere. So I kept an eye on it, trying to avoid a car wreck at the same time. I was looking for a place to pull over and take my camera out. About the time I got my camera out and was ready to shoot, the object began to descend not an angle, but straight down. From my best estimate, I guess the object was about three miles away. I guess it descended a thousand feet in a few seconds. And then it stopped again after the descent. Now I was really curious. Q. I'll bet. A. It slowly began to hover, still very high in the sky at this point. And it moved back and forth in a very unusual and seemingly pointless manner. By this time I had my longest lens trained on it -- which was a 300 millimeter. I desperately needed a 1,000 millimeter, but I began to shoot anyway. The object continued in its meandering path for about 30 seconds, as I continued to shoot photos. I shot about 15 frames or so, and at that point it disappeared. I could no longer see it. Q. Were you in Keller? A. By this time I was in Keller. I lost sight of it when I got to the corner of Rufe Snow Drive and Farm Road 1709. I shot about 10 frames in Southlake and another five frames in Keller. Q. Do you think it was flying above Keller? A. No, probably two to three miles west. Q. That would put it close to Interstate 35, right? A. Probably even a little further west than that. I got the sense it was very large and had to be a long way away. Q. What color was it? A. The light that appeared at first was a blazing white. Whiter than the sun at first. A pure white. And then it faded into an object that was very gray and mute in tone. But it had a brightness of its own. It's hard to explain. Q. Was the sun out at this point? A. Yes, it was. It was in the sky, but it was about 10 degrees to the left of it, south of it. Q. So could it have been a reflection of the sun on something? A. Possibly, but I've never seen an object drop from the sky in the manner this did. Q. Could it have been a weather balloon? A. Again, balloons don't tend to drop like that -- and that quickly. Q. An airplane or a helicopter? A. The bright light at first I saw ... I couldn't say it was not a reflection. But if it was, it was one of the most intense reflections I'd ever seen. At the same time, everything else that happened after that was very unconventional. When you put it all together, it was highly unusual. Q. Who have you told about this? A. Only a few of the people that I work with that I thought might enjoy hearing about it. Q. You have experience photographing objects in the sky, don't you? A. Yes, in fact, it's been said I shoot way too much in the sky. I photograph just about every aerial and atmospheric phenomenon that's known. Everything from rainbows to lightening. I've done it all. But this was something very different. Q. M.L., what do YOU think it was? A. That's a good question. (Long pause.) Since the skies around D/FW are some of the busiest skies around the face of the planet, I can't say that it's not a plane or something of that kind. However, my instinct is this object was not something conventional that people see everyday. I would say it was something brand new in the commercial or military establishment or something that's paying us a visit from a long ways away.
	This is the first photo that M.L. Gray took of the UFO near Keller on Nov. 30, 1998. Below you will see an enlargement of the same photograph.
It looks like a planet, but it isn't. It obviously isn't a plane or a helicopter. Airport radar systems report nothing unusual in the skies at that time.
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