Session Start: Fri Jun 05 18:57:45 1998

*** Now talking in #browsers

*** oz1 changes topic to "Netscape For Beginners Without a Teacher"

<candyman1> what a crowd !

<oz1> Overwhelming isn't it.

<candyman1> yes it is

<twoshoes> not many here yet

<twoshoes> Is Richard still ill or problems with server?

<candyman1> we do not know

<candyman1> did you see the email from VU?

<twoshoes> Yes.

<candyman1> we are also waiting

<twoshoes> I gather he plans to give us the final.

<candyman1> and the natives are restless !

<candyman1> either he will or VU will

<twoshoes> Is tonight our last night here?

<candyman1> oz?

<oz1> We can come here any time we want to.

<candyman1> we can carry on....right

<oz1> You bet.

<twoshoes> You mean same day and time or just stop by sometime

<oz1> Whatever you want to do.

<candyman1> Fri or Sun

<twoshoes> Sun @ Pacific time is really too late for me.

<candyman1> TS, are you on Pacific time?

<twoshoes> No Eastern

<candyman1> thanks

<twoshoes> oz1 I noticed you e-mailed something about tables and music, but I haven't had time to read all my mail yet.

<FlorenceF> Hi everyone. Sorry I'm late. Any word from Richard?

<oz1> They are some things I did when I took the class before.

<twoshoes> Thanks for it. I'll look into it later

<oz1> Nothing yet Flo.

<twoshoes> Hi Flo

<candyman1> jayne said that she will be here

<FlorenceF> I should have lookedat the bulletin board before coming in

<candyman1> that was earlier today

<FlorenceF> But I didn't want to take the time

<oz1> I wish I could do a web page. I could only send to those in the study

groups. The other ones have really been left hanging.

<candyman1> oz, send a messafe to the BB

<candyman1> message

<oz1> For what?

<candyman1> what you sent to the study group

<oz1> I guess if they want it they could email me.

<candyman1> yes

<oz1> It will only work if they have HTML mail.It will not work for Macs either.

<twoshoes> you have put messages on bulletin board.

<oz1> Not today. The latest archive has a bunch in it.

<twoshoes> Can you explain what you mean by html mail?

<oz1> If any of you are interested in newsgroups go to this URL.

You can just read or you can ask questions.

<oz1> http://help.netscape.com/nuggies/navigator.html

<oz1> It is mail with graphic or color like a web page.

<twoshoes> so how do you send it?

<oz1> Do you use Netscape mail program?

<twoshoes> yes

<oz1> Then you can send it.

<oz1> And receive it.

<oz1> Read the email I sent and it will get you started.

<twoshoes> you just include a graphic in your message?

<twoshoes> Ok I will

<oz1> You can put in music, graphics, tables, all sorts of things.

<candyman1> TS oz emails are good

<twoshoes> So, by reading your e-mails, I'll understand?

<oz1> I haven't sent one for so long I had almost forgotten how.

<oz1> Yes. Hopefully.

<oz1> If you have any questions just ask anytime.

<candyman1> I like your heading on this page, oz

<twoshoes> Cute!

<oz1> Works for me. LOL

<FlorenceF> Sounds almost like "Beginners without a Home"

<candyman1> this is your home !

<twoshoes> These meetings have been a great help.

<FlorenceF> Yeah but no Momma nor Poppa!

<candyman1> but a substitite teach

<twoshoes> and a good one at that

<FlorenceF> These meetings have introduced me to a lot of new & strange things

<oz1> There are lots more too.

<FlorenceF> The only thing it will take a long time to learn them.

<candyman1> as the guy said, practive, practice and practice

<FlorenceF> Will the logs stay on eagel's page for a while. I am reading them

& learning.

<oz1> I think she will leave them for a while.

<oz1> It sure was nice of her to do that. We can even peek at other class logs.

<FlorenceF> CM you cannot practice until you have learned a bit.

<oz1> We have learned by doing.

<candyman1> every little bit helps

<oz1> For email just send them to yourself till it looks like you want it too.

<candyman1> oz, I see you have made this channel secret

<FlorenceF> I have one problem. My whole system quits whenever I try to send

an e-mail to myself

<oz1> Mine used to do that sometimes too.

<oz1> Do you know how to edit an email?

<FlorenceF> Did you cure it - or did it finally decide to behave?

<oz1> I learned what was doing it but it is kind of hard to explain.

<FlorenceF> How do you edit an email?

<oz1> If someone send you an email and you would like to send it on to someone

else but change a few things you can edit.

<twoshoes> I'll be back later. Must check my mail for interlibrary loan books.

<oz1> Read the log and I will continue to explain.

<FlorenceF> And how do I do that without the message appearing too?

<candyman1> I am going to make some coffee

<oz1> You have the message up on the screen and then go to FILE and

then down to edit.

<oz1> It will bring up the email in a new window and you can type in it.

<oz1> When you have finished then just send it like any other mail.

<FlorenceF> Thanks oz - will try it.

<oz1> The problem with crashes is because your computer is trying to use the

same information twice. That is called a stack dump I think.

<oz1> What shall we talk about tonight.

<oz1> Do any of you know if you have voice mail?

<candyman1> i know I have

<FlorenceF> I don't!

<Jayne> i don't have voice

<oz1> Are you sure?

<oz1> If you have communicator you may have it.

<candyman1> which version of NS do you all have?

<oz1> Do you have voice mail twoshoes?

<FlorenceF> How could we find out if we have it? I have Netscape Communicator 4.04

<twoshoes> I don't know

<oz1> Click on Communicator at the top of the screen. You may have to

minimize mIRC to see it.

<twoshoes> I have NS communicator 4.0?

<oz1> Then if it says conference click on that.

<candyman1> 4.04 version has voice mail

<Jayne> i thought 4.0 didn't have voice

<oz1> I got it with 4

<candyman1> 4.04 has

<FlorenceF> Conference is greyed out on mine

<oz1> I think there is a free download for it but I don't think it

includes Voice mail.

<twoshoes> Same here

<Jayne> no voice in 4,04

<oz1> Did you all get the URL for the newsgroup?

<FlorenceF> Mine was the free downloaad. I guess that is why it does not

have voice mail.

<candyman1> when did you DL your 4.04 jayne?

<twoshoes> Since it is greyed out, guess I don't have it either

<Jayne> thereis no conference on mine

<oz1> Guess we got in under the wire Candy.

<oz1> Candy and I have sent voice mail and have talke to each other with conference.

<twoshoes> Do we need to get the Professional ed for conference?

<oz1> Probably

<Jayne> a bout four months ago

<candyman1> we were luckly oz

<oz1> How is your email threads working Jayne?

<Jayne> CM you have to reauthorize me

<candyman1> I know there is an extra charge for voice mail now

<FlorenceF> What are email threads?

<Jayne> okay

<Jayne> what are you bookmsarking

<candyman1> is that for ICQ?

<candyman1> jayne

<oz1> In your email if there are emails with the same subject there can be hidden mail.

<Jayne> yes

<twoshoes> What do reference 1, 2, mean in an e-mail?

<oz1> It means it has been forwarded or replied to.

<candyman1> previous emails

<oz1> Each time it is sent it will add a reference.

<twoshoes> Oh

<twoshoes> Now I understand

<oz1> My brother and I sent one back and forth 24 times before we gave up.

<candyman1> Jayne, I will author. you after I get rid of some URLs coming through

<Jayne> ok

<twoshoes> Can you paste something sved in clipboard from an

e-mail on to this browser?

<oz1> What happened to your ICQ Jayne?

<oz1> You can paste it to email.

<Jayne> it was showing me off line to everyone and i had no one on

line, but my other number was fine

<oz1> If it is words you can paste it here too.

<twoshoes> The carpenter I hired to help me restore an old farmhouse had just

<twoshoes> finished a rough first day on the job. A flat tire made him lose an

<twoshoes> hour of work, his electric saw quit and now his ancient pickup truck

<twoshoes> refused to start.

<twoshoes> While I drove him home, he sat in stony silence. On arriving, he

<twoshoes> invited me in to meet his family. As we walked toward the front

<twoshoes> door, he paused briefly at a small tree, touching the tips of the

<twoshoes> branches with both hands. When opening the door he underwent an

<twoshoes> amazing transformation. His tanned face was wreathed in smiles and he

<twoshoes> hugged

<twoshoes> his two small children and gave his wife a kiss.

<twoshoes> Afterward, he walked me to the car. We passed the tree and my

<twoshoes> curiosity got the better of me. I asked him about what I had seen him

<twoshoes> do earlier.

<twoshoes> "Oh, that's my trouble tree," he replied. "I know I can't help

<twoshoes> having troubles on the job, but one thing for sure, troubles don't

<twoshoes> belong in the house with my wife and children. So I just hang them up

<twoshoes> on the tree every night when I come home. Then in the morning I pick

<twoshoes> them up again."

<twoshoes> Funny thing is," he smiled, "when I come out in the morning to pick em

<twoshoes> up,

<twoshoes> there aren't nearly as many as I remember hanging up the night

<twoshoes> before".

<oz1> That is nice twoshoes. We should all do that.

<oz1> I sure need to do it anyway.

<twoshoes> Sorry, I messed it up. But now I know how to paste something here

<twoshoes> How do we get your sound, oz1

<oz1> You need to click on get twoshoes

<twoshoes> I clicked on get but what happened?

<oz1> Some day I will remember how to do all these things.

<oz1> You are not downloading the candyman wav sound.

<twoshoes> how do I do it

<oz1> It will go to your C/mirc file and then you should be

able to hear the sound.

<oz1> Wait till it is finished and we will try it.

<candyman1> I do not know how to send an alias oz

<Jayne> and..

<oz1> And what Jayne

<oz1> This is a big file. It will take a while.

<Jayne> and whos nname will i click

<oz1> Do you want the sound too Jayne?

<Jayne> ok got it

<oz1> Candy can send it too you.

<candyman1> jayne is getting the cm wav from me

<oz1> Florence are you using mirc tonight?

<twoshoes> I clicked get but what do I do now?

<oz1> Just wait.

<oz1> I will tell you when it is done.

<FlorenceF> I deleted my mirc because I couldn't get it to work.

<FlorenceF> After this course is finished, I will try it again.

<oz1> Then we can't share the sound with you. Sorry.

<oz1> Wonder where eagel is tonight.(LOL I WAS AT WORK-eagel)

<twoshoes> I'm still waiting

<oz1> Just a little while yet.

<oz1> It is the candyman song.

<oz1> If VU offers the mirc class with Leapin next term you should take it.

It is very good.

<oz1> Ok twoshoes it is done.

<oz1> Now we will see if it works.

<twoshoes> What do I do now?

<oz1> Just tell me if you hear it.

<Jayne> i don't think il be back until the fall

[SOUND]

<twoshoes> Yes Thanks by gosh I hear it.

<oz1> If you want to play it you type /sound candymn.wav

<candyman1> jayne you now have the cm wav

<oz1> No a in man

<oz1> I wonder what classes they will have for summer.

<oz1> I remember last summer they were shut down. I could hardly

wait for it to start.

<Jayne> yes i hear it

<candyman1> good jayne !

<oz1> We need to include Florence. This isn't fair to her.

<Jayne> yes we do

<oz1> Florence is there anything you want to discuss?

<twoshoes> how do you find the wav in mirk

<oz1> You go to the icon that says file on the menu and it will list

the things that are in the mirc file.

<twoshoes> thanks!

<oz1> Or you can go to C/mirc in explorer.

<FlorenceF> No, I guess not. Seems that I need a lot more than mIRC????

<oz1> That is all you need Flo.

<candyman1> no flo

<oz1> If you read any of the tutorials on mirc you will be able to get it

going. We are all here if you need help.

<twoshoes> I found it oz1

<oz1> Great.

<candyman1> click DCC on top

<oz1> If you double click on it it will play too.

<FlorenceF> What is DCC?

<candyman1> then click send

<oz1> You can save any sound on the internet and put it in the c/mirc folder

and then you can play it here.

<candyman1> then click "all files" on bottom

<candyman1> the menu shuold show all the files in wavs, midis etc.

<candyman1> DCC is in bar above

<candyman1> next to tools

<candyman1> after file

<candyman1> and before commands

<oz1> I think it is easier to count from the right or left.

<twoshoes> Thanks for the info. nite all!

Session Close: Fri Jun 05 20:41:31 1998