<Leapin> hello everyone!!!

<Ghatten> I want to share a cool font resource I found today.
<Leapin> great ghatten
<Ghatten> http://www.fontfreak.com over 7000 fonts there including a TON of dingbats!
<Leapin> I LOVE dingbats!!

<a-soapy> Hi everyone. Can I ask a question now?
<Leapin> k soapy ask away
<a-soapy> If you'll go to http://www.schroeder-associates.com/lesson3.htm you'll see your dog, Sam. I tried to remove his collar. The only way I could do it was to
<a-soapy> paint it white. It worked except the white was a different white than Sam.
<a-soapy> Did we learn how to match a color from an existing graphic? For instance, if I have a photo that I want to touch up with the paint brush, but want to be sure to use the same colors that are in the photo, was there a way to "match" colors?
<DownEast> Soapy, use the eye dropper to match the colour.
<Leapin> ROFL soapy, sam looks cool with those glasses
<Leapin> good job!!
<a-soapy> thankyou! i knew we did something like that! hey you like him?
<DownEast> Also, often good to "clone" the same area a couple of times and then "blend"
<a-soapy> what's rofl?
<DownEast> It's a hidden PSP tool
<a-wwwdot> roll on floor laughing
<Leapin> soapy you can use the clone tool as well
<Leapin> and clone an area of fur around that area
<Leapin> so the shade/hue is the same
<a-soapy> i think the eye dropper will be the easiest?
<Leapin> the clone tool is a little confusing at first
<Ghatten> The clone tool will give you a better match in the long run for the texture and mix of colors in a photo
<Leapin> I think so too ghatten
<Leapin> once you master it, it is  a great little tool
<Leapin> we sound like a bunch of doctors
<a-soapy> ok, thanks. appreciate the assist. i had trouble with the clone tool, but I'll try again.

<Leapin> wwwdot do you have a question?

<a-wwwdot> yes
<a-wwwdot> I am still on lesson 1
<Leapin> okay what are you stuck with?
<DownEast> We also still do lesson 1 questions
<a-wwwdot> I finally did everything right except
<a-wwwdot> I can't get the border to crop correctly around the funny one
<Leapin> wwwdot did you invert the selection?
<a-wwwdot> yes
<Leapin> hmm
<Leapin> what step are you getting stuck on?
<a-wwwdot> I followed what you said every time
<Leapin> let me load the lesson
<a-wwwdot> I don't know
<a-wwwdot> the problem is
<a-wwwdot> I have one of those crazy lines, I think they are called marquees
<a-wwwdot> around the whole thing
<a-wwwdot> then I also have one that makes the border
<Leapin> as in the whole image, or just the odd shape?
<a-wwwdot> when I crop it crops the whole image
<Leapin> oh I think I know what you are saying
<a-wwwdot> with the background
<Leapin> did you try to invert again?
<a-wwwdot> not just the image with the border
<a-wwwdot> yes
<a-wwwdot> I did that twice
<Leapin> is the background a solid colour?
<a-wwwdot> each time
<a-wwwdot> yes
<Leapin> okay try this..
<a-wwwdot> ok
<a-wwwdot> go
<Leapin> unselect the image selections/select none
<Leapin> now pick your magic wand tool
<Leapin> put tolerance on 0
<Leapin> click the background colour
<Leapin> now do Selections/Invert
<Leapin> you shape should not be selected
<Leapin> at that point you could pick Image/Crop to Selection
<a-wwwdot> got it so far
<a-wwwdot> writing fast
<Leapin> done
<Leapin> lol
<DownEast> Don't forget that you can always write down what you need after.  Just scroll back and everything is still there.
<Leapin> I was thinking you were trying it
<Leapin> is that it wwwdot?
<a-wwwdot> Yes, tks so much
<Leapin> maybe you can try it now and let us know how it worked out

<Leapin> okay turtleeeeeeeeee hello

<Aturtle84> what is the best way to take a b/w pcx picture and convert it to a colored outline other than black?
<Leapin> eww pcx is kinda tough
<Leapin> does it have the jaggies?
<Aturtle84> yes!
<Leapin> jagged edges?
<Leapin> okay here is what I do normally...
<Aturtle84> fills everything when I try
<Leapin> a little hard not seeing it
<Leapin> but first make sure it is set to 16 million colors in psp
<Leapin> now i have to ask you a question
<Aturtle84> k
<Leapin> is there anyway to select just the image?
<Leapin> like is there a lot of background solid space?
<Leapin> or is the image all over the canvas?
<Aturtle84> yes alot of white
<Leapin> okay than do this...
<Leapin> once it is 16 million colours
<Aturtle84> would it help if I e-mailed it to you
<Leapin> use your magic wand to select the image itself
<Aturtle84> tried but there are so many jaggies that it selects all of it
<Aturtle84> even the background
<Leapin> now once the image is selected (use shift key to add to any areas missed within the image, let's say the hole in an O)
<Leapin> once you have everything you need selected
<Leapin> go to Selections/Modify/Feather
<Leapin> and set the feather to about 3
<Leapin> now go to Image/Blur/Soften
<Leapin> that should give the image the appearance of antialiased edges
<Leapin> now save the image as a .psp file
<Leapin> done
<Aturtle84> I think I got ya will work on it thanks!
<Leapin> oh wait!!
<Leapin> I missed the purpose of the question...
<Leapin> all of what I said is good except before doing it..
<Leapin> change to 16 million
<Leapin> than use the color replacer tool to change the black
<Leapin> to the color you want
<Leapin> than do that rest of what I said
<Aturtle84> ok will try it
<Leapin> it is very difficult to color replace on a feathered image
<Leapin> so it makes sense to replace the color before the feathering
<Leapin> and softening
* Granny-Wicked thinks it is a pixel by pixel thing
<Aturtle84> I didn't know if I needed to fill in with a color then change or not
<Leapin> I think the color replacer will be easier if the lines of the sketch are thin
<Aturtle84> ok thanks!
<Leapin> if the lines are really thick than the flood fill will work as well
* Ghatten thinks it might be an image by image thing since some images can be cleaned up easier than others...
* Leapin thinks ghatten is very right
<Leapin> :)
<Aturtle84> lines are not thick they are scattered really bad
<Leapin> turtle the color replacer would be your best bet in that senario
<Leapin> thin lines are not filled easily within a selection
<Aturtle84> will work on it and post it to my site if it works :)
<Leapin> using flood fill
<Leapin> turtle if you have problems post it anyway
<Leapin> I will look at it and make more suggestions
<Aturtle84> thanks!
<Leapin> :)
* Granny-Wicked thinks we all need pixel fairy's to clean up the left over pixel changes
<Ghatten> Something I have done on photos is after changing the background color, select the background color and use a soft, medium opacity brush to go around the edges of the image and sort of blur things some..sort of re-anti alias.
<Leapin> that is a good idea GW
<Leapin> ghatten that is a very good technique
<Ghatten> You need to be careful you don't "cover" too much of the person or image though..just go lightly around the edges.
<Leapin> with a thin brush I assume
<Ghatten> yes or the airbrush even
<Leapin> the retouch tool set to soften is ideal for tracing the edges too
<Granny-Wicked> yes airbrush works really well on light settings
<Ghatten> the idea is to lessen the difference between the two color areas...and to get rid of the unwanted colors
<Leapin> as people are probably seeing, there are many ways to do the same thing in psp 5
<Granny-Wicked> without doing it pixel by pixel, that is very time consuming

<Leapin> in the next lesson you get a pic of me :)

<Leapin> anyone have any questions?

<Granny-Wicked> I have a site for everyone to if they want to place text around pictures (created by zonie
<Granny-Wicked> http://members.xoom.com/flfry/TQFK/imgalgn.html this site is from zonie, and helps you with codes and picture placement for web pages

<z-juliaanna^> yes leapin when working with brushes how can I get the tips to change easier
<Leapin> juliaanna do you mean the size of the brush tip or the shape?
<z-juliaanna^> yes
<z-juliaanna^> the size
<Leapin> julianna on the brush control palette (select the brush tool first) there is a setting for size
<z-juliaanna^> ok
<Leapin> if you just want your brush one pixel, then make sure 1 is in the size box
<z-juliaanna^> ok
<Leapin> if you want to actually change the shape of the brush, use the drop down menu
<Leapin> or click on the custom brush icon to get a listing of more
<Leapin> I should note to everyone, under custom brushes, there is a pen, pencil, carcoal
<Leapin> charcoal even
<Leapin> and lots more to choose from
<z-juliaanna^> Ok that is great
* Granny-Wicked says I love my 1 pixel brushes,

<Cathi> Leapin = Eureka!!  It worked.  Thanks again.
<Leapin> cathi great :)

<Leapin> larry I missed your question?

<z-larry1> Presently, should there be more than one color palette in the PSP5 palette folder?
<Leapin> larry I believe there should be a few
<Leapin> but I am not sure now, could someone check please?
<z-larry1> I see only one
<Granny-Wicked> I only have 2 leapin
<Leapin> I know I have many custom ones and I can't remember which I made and which came with psp 5 full version
<Granny-Wicked> the one from psp5 and a 216 safe color one
<Augustus> and one from netscape
 
 

<DownEast> 4Can someone look at this URL and suggest the font name?  I've got to duplicate the graphic. http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/scotia/psp/Image10.gif
<Leapin> gw did you download the 216 or did it come with it?
<z-larry1> How do I get the other?
<Granny-Wicked> leapin I d/led it
 

<Granny-Wicked> de have you check the net for fonts?
<Granny-Wicked> there should be font sites, that would tell you
<DownEast> Yes I'm going through the one that Jean gave tonight as we speak.
<Augustus> dont recognize that font
<Leapin> DE you might want to soften the edges a litle
<Leapin> on the rounded letters
<z-Milton_S> I would guess that it is a 72 point font
<DownEast> Oh that's not the final graphic, Leapin.  It's just what came from the company's designer.  I've got to duplicate it for the web.
<Leapin> DE oh so you are going to resize right?
<DownEast> The designer doesn't have e-mail AND he's in Germany!
<DownEast> Yes, but I want the font so I can do other stuff along the same theme
<Leapin> DE a 3d font would be sharp
<z-guest296> Post it on the PSP forum. Maybe someone there can help. Never seen the overlapping font before.
<DownEast> I suspect overlapping will have to be done manually.
<Leapin> I suspect they made the letters overlap through the use of layers
<Leapin> just my guess though
<DownEast> Agree, leap
<Leapin> and guess what we cover this week???
<Leapin> LAYERS!!
<Leapin> yeah!
<DownEast> I know...  layers1
<z-juliaanna^> what is that
<Leapin> juliaanna layers are lots of fun
<Leapin> if you never used them you will really enjoy learning in week 3
<DownEast> I wonder it it's simple IMPACT font?
<Leapin> they allow you to do lots of special effects
<z-guest296> Is it a drawing or typeset DE?
<Leapin> however for week 3 we do the basics of layers
<Leapin> in week 6 we will do more difficult effects
<DownEast> It may have been typeset and scanned.
<Leapin> because by then everyone should be ready for that
<DownEast> Although I think the designer uses a mac
<DownEast> Leapin, the original format was Corel.  David, converted it to GIF to send to me...
<Leapin> yikes .gif
<Leapin> he must not know about web file formats
<Leapin> send him lesson 2 lol
<Leapin> once it is in .gif format it is pretty much ruined
<DownEast> No, their designer is strictly a print kinda guy.
<Leapin> you have to start all over
<Leapin> :(

<Leapin> jim do you have a question?

<AjimP> When using the Lasso Tool with Smart Edge is there  a way to back up without starting over. Example, I am outline an image that contains a lot of intersecting colors. I found that by moving the selection box slightly, I can cause PSP to focus on a different color to outline. However, If I want to backup, I cant without starting over.
<Leapin> jim the best way I have found so far...
<Leapin> is to finish the complete selection
<Leapin> and than use your SHIFT key pressed down to add to the original selection
<z-guest296> Can't you hit delete once for each click.
<Leapin> and your CTRL key pressed down to delete from the selection
<Leapin> guest what do you mean, could you explain more?
<AjimP> Does the original selection stay selected?
<z-guest296> I think you can use delete to back up for each click you so with the lasso.
<AjimP> What happens when I go to cut the image?
<Leapin> jim oz1 just pointed out that you can use the DEL key to delete your last point selected
<Leapin> I never knew that!
<z-guest296> Try it. I am not positive.
<Leapin> wow I learned something new again :)
<Leapin> jim here is the process of what I was referring to..
<AjimP> I will try the del key now. and let you know.
<Leapin> do your complete selection, even if it has mistakes...
<Leapin> let's say you have an area where too much was selected..
<Leapin> with the original selection still active..
<Leapin> hold down your CTRL key and start a new selection around the area of the original selection you want to get rid of
<Leapin> that area will disappear, and hopefully your selection will be more exact now
<Leapin> it takes some playing around with, but after a few practices it becomes easy
<Leapin> it also helps to zoom in considerably when doing selections
<Leapin> or any editing for that matter, with any of the brush or selection tools
<Leapin> although you should zoom out once in a while to make sure what you are doing looks okay in the regular sized image
* Granny-Wicked says yes yes, do that often!!
<Granny-Wicked> the more you zoom in the more you should check even on cloning tools
<AjimP> The del key works - WOW a lot of time will now be saved. Now, is there a way to suspend the operation, ie move the mouse to the status bar to select another task and come back to psp to continue the lasso operation?
<Leapin> jim not to my knowledge
<z-guest296> The line will follow you but by using delete you can backtrack.
<Leapin> but than again I did not know about the del either
<Leapin> guest can he pick another tool though?
<z-guest296> Yes
<Leapin> really?
<Leapin> I never got that to work before
<z-guest296> The lasso will stay active. Just tried it.
<Leapin> let me try again
<Leapin> it did not let me pick another tool guest
<Leapin> I could move to the tool palette, but it would not let me select another tool
<z-guest296> What kind of tool did you want to use?
<Leapin> guest I tried the selection tool
<Leapin> but it would not let me
<Leapin> I also tried the brush, same thing
<z-guest296> Well, I guess I just used it to move the image over with the scroll bar.
<Leapin> guest yes you can do that, but you do not have to click..
<z-guest296> I don't know think you can suspend the lasso and come back if that is what you meant.
<Leapin> to move the scroll bar while using the lasso tool
<Granny-Wicked> oh sorry to hear that blossom!!
<Leapin> poke it several times in the far corner of the way you want to scroll
<Leapin> for instance if you want to move the screen up
<z-guest296> Sorry to confuse you.
<Leapin> take your active lasso and poke it several times in the far top right hand corner of the psp screen
<Leapin> it will start scrolling with each poke
<z-guest296> I also have tried using a negitive image to do the lasso tool. Sometimes it is easier to see where you are at.

<Kinkell> Why are colours with the same number different in PSPto Netscape?And how can you make them match?
<Leapin> kinkell RGB colors never exactly match browser colors
<Leapin> no matter how hard you try
<Kinkell> I found that out!

<Leapin> roz?
<roz^> Before I go I wanted to find out about that book by T. Michael Clark
<Leapin> roz it is a good beginners book
<roz^> Is it for beginners and more advanced as well?
<roz^> I hear it comes with a CD
<Leapin> just beginner in my opinion
<roz^> I have Andy Shafrans book as well.
<Leapin> nope no cd
<roz^> It says on the Internet at Cbook.com it has a CD
<Leapin> roz I have tmc's book it has no cd
<roz^> Maybe a mistake...
<Leapin> andy's first edition book had a cd
<Leapin> for what it was worth lol
<roz^> Ok, maybe I am wrong... I will go back and see what it says.
<Leapin> mostly pics of him and his girlfriend lol
<roz^> Yes... Andy's first book had a CD and the second one that was more expensive and in color *does not!(*
<roz^> I can't even read the dialog boxes.
<Leapin> roz his second book is not worth the money
<roz^> They are there but you need a magnifying glass to read what they say.
<Leapin> he does not cover any of the more difficult topics
<roz^> I already have it it's too late for that!<LOL>
<Leapin> he only covers what most people could figure out on their own anyway
<roz^> No, Andy does not and the books are a lot of talk around everything...
<Leapin> most of the stuff covered can easily be found on the Net for free
<z-guest296> And better on the net too.
<roz^> This is true, but I was suppoosed to take the course there and I needed the book and there was no other at that time.
<roz^> I am interested now in T. Michael
<roz^> T. Michael's Book
<Leapin> roz there is a good one put out by sawyer
<Leapin> it is cheap too
<roz^> You  don't think that that could help.
<roz^> Oh.. what is the name?
<Leapin> I forget the title, but his new one covers psp 5
<Leapin> I think amazon.com had it listed
<roz^> What his first name?
<Leapin> again for beginners, so don't expect wonders
<oz1> Don't need a book. Many good tutorials on the internet.
<Leapin> now sure, just go to http://www.amazon.com and search for paint shop pro
<roz^> I like a book to read on the bus while travelling.
<Leapin> it will come up in the search
<Leapin> oz I agree with that
<roz^> Ok, I will look.
<oz1> Print out some of the tutorials and make a notebook to read. Much better.
<Leapin> the best books are usually the photoshop books
<roz^> I figure this way... even if the book is not great... if there is somethings that I can learn it is faster and cheaper than taking a course in a school.
<Leapin> and now that psp 5 has layers you can translate the ps techniques to psp
<Leapin> roz this course was only $15 lol, what can be cheaper than that?
<Leapin> plus you get to take 2 other courses :)
<roz^> I don't know enough or very little about layers.  I am not that advanced.
<roz^> I mean in a school that you attend personally with face to face students.
<turtle84> Leapin have you heard of David D. Busch he has a book called "creating Cool Photoshop 4 web graphics"
<Leapin> turtle do you know how much the book is?
<Granny-Wicked> layers will be fun roz
<Leapin> it sounds good
<Leapin> I would not mind looking into it
<turtle84> I got it at a discount book store for about 12-13.00
<Leapin> roz I see what you mean, and agree, courses in schools around here are very expensive
<turtle84> it comes with  a CD too!
<Leapin> turtle really? wow luck!!
<turtle84> regular 29.95
<Leapin> american?
<turtle84> yes american
<roz^> I can't find anyplace in NY that has these books that you can look at in person before buying.
<roz^> I bought Andy's site unseen...<shrug!>
<Leapin> lol turtle nope that dcc must have gone airborne
<Kinkell> What about the internet bookshelf, do they have any good ones?
<Leapin> roz don't you have a barnes & noble?
<Leapin> kinkell never looked, but I bet they do
<oz1> Sam's Club has a good computer book section I hear.
<roz^> I have a barnes & noble near where I work and was there last week and the week before.  The only thing that they had on PSP was Andy book and they only had one of them.
<roz^> Not any other book there...
<roz^> I did buy the Peachpit books for HTML4 and JavaScript.
<roz^> Those are excellent.

<Leapin> doug do  you have a question?
<A-doug> I can't remember the context, but I read somewhere in the lesson about hardness.  Does hardness refer to the sharpness of the edge?
<Leapin> doug I don't think it just means the edge
<Leapin> but rather the hardness of the entire line
<Leapin> or pixel
<Leapin> but let me make sure of that...
<Leapin> looking it up
<Granny-Wicked> doesn't it have to do with how much paint it drops per pixel?
<Leapin> doug according to the manual...
<Leapin> Hardness..
<Leapin> Hardness controls the sharpness of the brush edges.  The harder the brush, the more defined the edges of paint will be
<Leapin> at 100%, the paint stroke has sharply defined edges
<Leapin> As the hardness decreaes, the brush edge softens
<Leapin> so you are very right about the edge thing
<Leapin> :)
<Granny-Wicked> see almost right!!
<A-doug> oh, i think I get it
<Granny-Wicked> me that is leapin!!
<A-doug> thanks.  I have another question.  do I wait my turn to come around again?
<Granny-Wicked> I said I thought it had to do with how much paint was put in per pixel
<Leapin> no doug class is over so ask away
<Leapin> gw yes but only on the edges
<Leapin> doug was right on the money :)
<Granny-Wicked> thanks leapin, now I know too!!!
<A-doug> I need more explaination about dithering
<Leapin> okay doug
<Leapin> dithering in what context?
<Leapin> reducing a .jpg?
<Leapin> to a .gif?
<A-doug> as in, what is dithering.  What does it mean?
<Leapin> or intentionally ditheing for effect in a photograph?
<Leapin> doug there are different types of dithering
<Leapin> one is known as screen dithering
<oz1> You just draw around the portion of the graphic and make a link out of it.
<Leapin> screen dithering is what happens when a 24 bit or 16 bit image is viewed on a computer
<Leapin> with a 256 color card
<Leapin> the image's color is reduced to 256 colours and the dither looks uniform
<Leapin> as if a pattern was used
<Leapin> the dither looks kind of spotted
<Leapin> dotty
<Granny-Wicked> yes one of the deformation tools is dithering
<Leapin> like I showed in the lesson, the zoomed in picture of sam's shoulder area
<Granny-Wicked> 25% 50% and 75 % I think
<Leapin> that is screen dither
<Leapin> is this making sense so far?
<A-doug> hmmm ... an example was given of a red field.  Jpg-ing the image made it darker.  Dithering was to blame.
<Leapin> yes the .jpg dithered on a 256 card
<Leapin> you may not see the effect if you are viewing at high resolution
<Leapin> and true color
<Leapin> you have to be looking at it in 256 color mode
<Leapin> low res
<A-doug> if only one color --red was there, what caused it to get darker?
<Leapin> in jpg form, and 16 million colors there was not one shade of red any longer
<Leapin> it was 16 million shades of red
<Leapin> if you load that same red square
<Leapin> reduce it to 256 colors
<Leapin> and than go colors/edit palette
<Leapin> you will see what I mean
<A-doug> but I thougt I was using only one shade of red -- solid red
<Leapin> there will be a fairly full palette
<A-doug> my misunderstanding of what 'red' is, I guess
<Leapin> that was a bad example
<Leapin> I just tried it and once reduced to 256 colors it did turn out to be one shade of red
<Leapin> let me try something else
<Leapin> doug looking at the lesson, that example was to show that .jpg does not handle solid color blocks well
<Leapin> when .jpg saves a solid block of one color it dithers
<A-doug> yes, they get dithered, it said
<Leapin> .jpg relies on having many colors
<A-doug> I just wondered how one solid color gets dithered -- if I understand dithering -- a big If!
<A-doug> so -- it is expecting more than one color.  if it has one color, it messed it uP?  is that it?
<Leapin> one color would not dither if it were a .gif
<Leapin> .gif files handle solid color blocks much better than .jpg
<Leapin> here is another definition for a professional artist
<Leapin> dithering: the positioning of different-colored pixels within an image that uses a 256-color palette to simulate a color that does not exist in the palette.
<A-doug> ok.  I will do it that way and not sweat the details
<Leapin> A dithered image often looks noisy, or composed of scattered pixels
<A-doug> ok, thanks.
<Granny-Wicked> I like learning the information, it helps me to understand what is happening
<Leapin> doug I am looking for a better example of dithering
<Leapin> the red block was more to show that .jpg if using none web safe colors will dither
<Leapin> just by the very nature of the file format
<Leapin> plus that .jpg does not handle solid color well
<Leapin> .gif on the other hand does
<Granny-Wicked> a jpg is better for photos and close multi color items,
<doug> ok, thanks.
<Leapin> doug
<Leapin> if you can try this
<Leapin> intentionally pick a non browser safe color
<Leapin> now open one image as a 16 million canvas
<Leapin> rgb
<oz1> Look in help under Color Definition Methods.
<Leapin> 300x300
<Leapin> solid flood file the canvas with that non browser safe color
<Leapin> and save file as a .jpg
<doug> how do I pick a non browser safe color?  how will I know for sure?
<Leapin> now open another image and flood fill again with the none browser safe color
<Leapin> doug look in lesson 2
<Leapin> at the browser safe color chart
<Leapin> and pick any number that is not on that chart
<doug> ok
<Leapin> actually if the numbers are NOT divisables of 51
<Leapin> they are not browser safe
<Leapin> zero excluded in that of course
<doug> weren't they hectal numbers?
<doug> i mean, octal
<Leapin> rgb conversions are listed in that chart
<doug> ok, i'll go back there and try that.
<doug> thank you
<Leapin> the second image should be saved as a .gif
<Leapin> it will replace the none browser safe with the closest browser safe
<Leapin> whereas .jpg will not, and I believe that is where the dithering comes into play
<doug> oh!!! yes.
<Leapin> oh and you have to be in 256 mode
<Leapin> low res
<Leapin> for that to work
<Leapin> for instance in the lesson, anyone viewing in high res true color would not see any difference between the two blocks
<Leapin> nor would they have seem much difference in any of the examples
<Leapin> viewing in high res defeats the purpose of seeing what a 256 color person would see
<Leapin> that is why people who view sites in ridiculously high settings like 1024x1200 think a site looks great
<Leapin> when everyone else says it looks dithered and lousey
<Leapin> lol
<doug> oh.
<Leapin> the issue gets clouded because technology is advancing
<Leapin> unfortunately not everyone can advance with technology
<Leapin> some people, and I am sure there were many in this class, did not know that they even could increase their resolution
<z-juliaanna^> leapin I am trying to load custom a image I have and I not sure I know how to everything I read and do doesn't work
<z-juliaanna^> I did
<Leapin> so they were surfing in 256 color
<Leapin> a lot of people still have 486 machines
<Leapin> with vga instead of svga
<Leapin> chances are they have a trident card
<Leapin> that is not capible of higher color
<doug> that was good information about the settings
<Leapin> juliaanna, do you mean load a custom palette from a .jpg image?
<doug> 'night all.  Boo!
<Leapin> night doug

<z-juliaanna^> now yes I have done that'
<z-juliaanna^> do i save the new look
<z-juliaanna^> I was clicking on the wrong thing
<z-juliaanna^> I am working with loading custom an web safe palettes
<Leapin> yes you can save the new one but you should use save copy of
<Leapin> so you do not ruin the original image
<z-juliaanna^> Ok
<z-Lynn> I have resized all the images in zip file, compared jpg and gif, and then compared in explorer. Amazed at the differences
<z-juliaanna^> Ok so I just rename it right
<z-juliaanna^> the second one
<Leapin> lynn I know, psp is lousy at recording proper image size
<Leapin> right juliaana :)
<z-juliaanna^> cool
<z-juliaanna^> this turn out great
<Leapin> I don't know what psp does to an image to make the size appear so large
<z-Lynn> Rely on explorer then?
<Leapin> when really it is much much smaller
<Leapin> yes windows explorer is accurate
<z-juliaanna^> do yo mean save copy as or save as
<Leapin> save copy as
<z-juliaanna^> ok
<Leapin> :)
<Leapin> well I have to get, I have to send off the next lesson to the vu
<Leapin> take care
<Leapin> all
Session Close: Sun Oct 25 19:18:42 1998