Session Start: Sat Nov 14 12:01:59 1998LOL that is Kinkells time in Australia!. It was Friday chat. Thanks for the logs Kink *** Now talking in #sosstudy *** Topic is 'VU PAINTSHOP PRO 5 CLASSROOM AND STUDY HALL' *** Set by leapin on Sun Aug 30 00:02:29 #sosstudy url is http://www.vu.org where can I get the invitation font used in the real gold totorial have you tried scanning it in augustus? off an invitation? okay I guess we should get started Where can one get the invitation font used in the real gold tutorial??? I searched the net and cant find it its in the list at the end of the lesson oh you mean one of the tutorial links to another site? yes here let me look up a font site that has many and I cant get Maudis to work did you install it correctly through control panel? oh, by the way xoom is back http://mardiweb.com/web will work augustus ok I clicked on the real gold link and it is in that tutorial oh so the link is dead in the lesson? it was for me, but Ill keep trying and the font I want was in the real gold link link works leapin, just tried it okay dancin thanks and Granny-wicked ok granny try the real gold one I just did augustus, and got throught to site, no problem and tell me where I can get the font used Augustus okay do you mean you try to download the font from inside the real gold tutorial? no, I want to know where to find it does any one know its a nice font and I would like to have sorry not me augustus, but will look around for it ok, I did search on web and havent found it yet also you might want to email the person and ask them, and compliment them on thier site, it might help http://magnagraphics.com/fonts/ does anyone have a really good font url? i don't know if they have it Ill email the author i've only been there once - didn't check it out thoroughly though augustus I am looking through my links, just one sec http://worldtypeset.com/pack1.html it's right here Augustus....... what does it look like augustus, I have invitation reg. in windows fonts really tks blossom http://www.ccse.net/~harris/FONTFUSION/main.html want me to send it to you augusts? you're welcome.......it looks like it is a commercial font sure http://people.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~kikita/mega.htm http://www.ccse.net/~harris/FONTFUSION/main.html fontfusion is strickly freeware and shareware fonts great many of them too ok stay away from the shareware ones though, they normally are missing a few letters its a very good looking one the freeware and donation ware and postcard ware are full versions are you getting it augustus? no are you sending it wth mirc Can someone help me set mirc to catch url's please? starbyte click on the icon at the top that says URL is there anything in the list? yep http://mirc.eon.net.au http://www.conesul.com.br/mirc http://www.mirc.queen.it http://www.moc.kw/mirc http://www.mirc.co.za http://www.nip.nl/mirc http://www.mirc.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/~mirc http://www.stroud.com http://www.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/Chatting/IRC/ http://www.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/Chatting/IRC/Channels/ ooopps :-( okay it is not on then those are the defaults I think star click file/options and then click the catcher tab star did you click file/options and then the catcher tab? LBear do you have a question? Can you use downloaded filters in the evaluation version of PSP5. I don't know if I'm missing something or if you just can't do it. LBear yes you can use them in the eval version what did you do after you downloaded them? sorry lbear and were they .8bf endings? i downloaded some and went to Image and Plug-in wasn't an option yes LBear you have to install them first unzip into a folder i did and then in psp under general options into a folder called Plug-in under PSP then in the pref i had that as the path okay and did you go under preferences k when you click on image/filters do you get a listing of any filters at all? yes, the ones that come with it i'm opening psp now k does anyone here have only the plugins that came with psp 5? to use your menu as a guide line i have filter browser (which is the std ones) and i have OTHER which is the hot wax, emboss I have this same thing...can I join this? LBear but down further I think the last option on the the images menu what comes up when you click on that? user defined? Yes, that's all I have, have not had time to download any others! LBear no Image/Plug-in filters LBear under User defined there is one more option is that greyed out on your's? try just plugin without the ( - ) part lbear and make sure you have the msvcrt10.dll that is needed in your windows\systems folder opps sorry leapin Leapin i don't have anything after user defined LBear nothing? Not even greyed out letters? not black but grey GW i thought i had that file - doesn't it come with Adobe PhotoDeluxe? nope, sorry Leapin - that's the end of my list!! LOL LBear it sounds to me like you have a corrupt version it should lbear, but also make sure it is in the window\system folder k - i'm checking that now should have plugin listed after user right leapin? right GW it is a default in psp image menu yes i have the DLL in my system folder LBear's menu sounds corrupted hmmm, yes it does figures! LBear you might want to consider reinstalling psp 5 should i download again - i still have the zip somewhere everyone should have plug-in filters as the last option on the image menu and that could be a problem, if it is an evaluation one? I pruchased PSP5....I have nothing in my filters folder and no plugin folder. Why? LBear I would delete that .zip and get the new one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? Is the "Enable Plugins" checkbox marked in preferences? hold it jimbird just struck gold!! I purchased mine no plugin filter in my image yes jimbird!!!!!!!! LBear make sure you have enable plugins checked I had no plugin folder either - had to create one and also download plugin.dll before I could use downloaded filters. also include sub-folders should be checked also the last check box let me look LBear i have the first three checked off and the sub-folders checked Where do you do this at? me too lbear I can't find it. the first 3 boxes right under File/Preferences/General Preferences and then the plugins tab k make sure the first 3 boxes are checked they are ? why limit loaded plug-in files to those with an .8b? leapin? do NOT check the last one, it has been know to act strange for no appearent reason It already is in mine nope i didn't check that one Not the last one starbyte, did you make a plug-in folder for psp5? GW according to the filters experts, they are the only ones that truely work with psp 5 called plugin? they are 32 bit no aw okay leapin, I didn't know that, so will check mine too thanks LBear than check the last one and see what happens oh thanks! LOL I know others had problems with it checked, but maybe it depends on other software you have installed Do I have to make the plugin folder first? you should starbyte, I had to also k GW the .8bf ones that are file size 56 or 48 are the safest thanks leapin, good to know, so i guess i have to uninstall and try again eh? starbyte you can make several folders if you like to organize things better also leapin doesn't the environments and textures folder go inside of the plugins? jimbird any other suggestions? But then filters is supposed to be in the plugin folder? gw that is created by bladepro it holds the bladepro textures No--except to reboot PSP after making the change. aw okay thanks did that LBear try to close psp 5 and reload hmm good grief sorry to have stumped you - i will try to redownload the program I thought jimbird struck gold, I guess it was a false find hehe jimbird :) i take it i'm the only one with this problem * Leapin gives jimbird a big congrats, it really slipped my mind all together!! It was a valid possibility. No Lbear...me2 me 2 jimbird it was an excellent possibility are both of yours eveluations? or purchased? Now I have plugin folder with nothing in it Pruchased mine is eval I think mine came with no plugins LBear did you download the 5.01 patch? I had to down load mine or is your eval version only 5.0 ? 5.01 patch? the about says it's 5.01 than you have the most recent hmm still may need the patch though lbear, it wouldn't hurt she has it gw if she has 5.01 that is the patch hmm mine says 5.00 k - at jasc right? LBear do this... going to check jasc site to see if new info file/preferences general preferences import filters and click in the box at the top also make sure you have I just purchased mine 2 days ago and it says 5.00 MS Graphic Import Filters k hang on in the slot then click OK close psp 5 and open it again sorry again - all that was already like that starbyte you should go to http://www.jasc.com and download the 5.01 patch for registered users ok I'm also doing what you are telling LBear... LBear type here, or copy and paste here EXACTLY what you have under file/preferences/general preferences and plugin filters in the first second and third slots Enable filters - allow the use of external image processing filters that's the first one LBear in the slots by browse include sub-folders when searching for filters sorry where the directories are shown E:\PROGRAM FILES\PAINT SHOP PRO 5\Plugins E:\Program Files\Paint Shop Pro 5\filters e: is the drive that i have PSP installed on i had to create the folders for the Plugins and filters check spelling of folders make sure they are the same and paint shop pro also is that where you installed the plugins? Paint Shop Pro 5 instead of PAINT SHOP PRO 5 like that? ooops - i did forget a - - restarting k YEEEEEEAAAAAAAA! THANK YOU!!! :-) happy days lol big time!! :-) sorry to have driven you all nuts for a hyphen!! not a problem LBear well that is what the classroom sessions are for :) glad nobody else had questions tonight! Didn't work for me :-( :-( hehe few questions lately I think people are getting too smart!! starbyte do you have the two files that were recommended in the lesson? yes in your windows/system folder yes I need plugin.dll thanks augustus, it helps with such eager students though :) starbyte do you have the first 3 boxes checked under Star may need to get the patch leapin, if she has 5.0 that will help yes? file/preferences/general preferences Plugin Filters tab? yes GW I suspect even if it does not, the addition of the redo tool will make her happy :) okay starbyte and what do your folders say ? yes leapin you are right there are they exactly to the letter the exact same as the folder names you created? I used the browse button to do that. and I restarted it and still nothing in plugins starbyte did you download any from the net? and unzip the file Yes and put them in the folder you created? is there anything in the folder star? k Had to get pico Nothing Wait leapin star I'd say that is the problem back up you have to put the filters IN the folder you created what? I don't even know how to find them now...LOL hmm how are you trying to see the filters Starbyte........did you make a new image with 16 million colors and then select Image/Plugin Filters? Unzip them to the plugin folder? yes starbyte no...just browsing ok if you can't find your .zip folders Go to Start, Find Look for *.8bf do start/find/files or folders and type in *.zip make sure it is set to search the main drive (normally c:) *.8bf!!! Yes Cuz I changed them to .8bf oh than that is definately your best bet I'll search now and try to put them in plugins good suggestion jimbird k that should solve your problem also make sure you have plugin.dll in the c:\windows\system folder too can someone send me the plugin.dll file I could ICQ it to you Augustus. I have questions too leapin about lesson!! okay GW ok leapin, I did that now how do I get to them? star did you restart psp 5? yes k If one has plugin.dll does one still have to convert to .8bf ?? now open an image 16 mil any size k make a small selection yes aAugustus or large depending on your canvas size k now go to image/plugin filters they should show now the ones you installed in the folder anyway k are they there? thanks yep...now I just need to figure out how to use them...LOL starbyte just click on the one you want to try I don't understand filters at all. it will do something to your selection depending on what filter you try I did and a box came up and I didn't know what to do in it. also the selection should have colour in it I just clicked ok and nothing happened many of the filters require colour pixels to work properly using foreground and background in psp? starbyte yes? no on the canvas itself Oh! Let me try again. star paint a couple of lines in different colours on your canvas then make a selection trying to capture parts of each colour then image/plugin filters and pick one from the list just click okay for now, since I don't know what filter you are using it should do something to your selection gawd knows what though, you have to play around on your own to find out what each one you downloaded does all have different functions I'm trying anyone else have any questions? okay on flood fill to fill text with pattern? how do you get the size of the pic to be the size of the letters to fill in what you want? (this is part 1 of question) GW it is very difficult because psp uses the WHOLE image so if you want... I got it!! :-) only a certain portion of the image Thanks Leapin! let's say a certain texture within the image try to select JUST that area using the best type of selection and than copy that selection as a new image use that image as the pattern for the flood tool welcome starbyte :-) did I explain that okay GW or is it fuzzy like my hair? I did about a dozen times leapin, was very frustrating, is not there a way to use size of letters with size of selection? say 36 pixel letters how do I determine hieght and width of selection? GW to make an EXACT selection, double click the selection tool and type in the figures you want over the part I want? aw, duh me!! of course!! you can move the exact selection to where you want it on the image part 2, now how do I get the matched rgb and drop shadow effect, after I cut the background? gw I am afraid I am missing the effect you want to achieve, could you discribe it? yes on your lesson, part 2, you flood filled hello with clouds k then used the match mode to rgb, and refilled each letter and cutout finished by adding drop shadow I got a big mess couldn't get the letters rounded at all maybe didn't have cutout set up right? or drop shadow? GW did you use the exact same cutout settings? none listed leapin I would see that as making the biggest difference yikes that is probably the problem then gw yes and I like that effect I probably used v 1 and h 1 thought so worked and worked