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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:03:23 +0100
Subject: Re: link cable

Hi Mate,

On 11-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> ;-) thanks for the advice, I will go for the parnet option, now all I need
> is the cable, software and the money to buy it :-)

Good luck mate, it's quite easy (apart from getting the money
together that is ;)

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From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 11 Apr 98 21:33:37 +0100
Subject: Re: HTML

In reply to what Dave Fisher said about "HTML"...

> Hi all,

[snip - whoops]

> Also, can anyone suggest some additional HTML tools to use. I don't want any
> WYSIWG editors, CEd is fine, and I'm using CheckHTML to check bits. I remember
> talking to Ego about HCS/HSC ? What was that used for ? I'm going to download
> it in a sec, but wondered if anyone else has any good utilities they could
> suggest. I might even add a Amiga HTML Authoring Tools page if I use some good
> ones :)
>

I just use BED, Voyager and PPaint. I've never needed more. All this
fuss about new versions of HTML just go stright over my head I'm
afraid, I just use the tags that I learn about from other peoples
pages, so if they use it and I can see it then it must be a supported
tag (I think).


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From: Dex Kennedy
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:05:20 +0000
Subject: Re[2]: HTML

#On 11-Apr-98 Eoghann Irving wrote regarding: Re: HTML#

Hi Eoghann,



> I have to admit that none of my websites are fully HTML complient.
> Basically because I can't be arsed checking with the increasingly fussy
> and inconsistent HTML standards. Its a hobby not a punishment. ;)

That's the way I work too and so far I have had no problems. Checkers are
very anal about html and as long as there are no major flaws in my code I
tend to ignore their error messages :)

> Beyond that I mainly use just a plain text editor and I don't even bother
> checking in more than one browser. Which is lazy granted. :)

Same here, Ced, DPaint & PPaint. Have to say I check in IBrowse & Voyager
(Voyager still sux a bit IMHO, and I regged it) as well as NS & IE when I
can grab someone on IRC to visit my site :)

Dex.

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From: Dex Kennedy
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:00:19 +0000
Subject: Re[2]: Weekly stats

#On 11-Apr-98 Dave Fisher wrote regarding: Re: Weekly stats#

Hi Dave,

> Hi Eoghann,

> On 11-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re[2]: Weekly stats,

> > Alongside information about this list and joining instructions. I want
> > to add loads of links to the site too, so if anyone has Amiga info on
> > their web pages and wants a link let me know.

> You can stick mine on if you want :) It's still not on the Amiga Webring,
> as I'm taking forever to finish it. But I do update it regularly.

You can stick mine on too :)

How many have joined the FCI webring? I'll add mine once I get the GFX
done. FCI's logo is soooo boring so I'm afraid the GFX will not be that
good. I can't do too much with it as FCI would not like it if I did.

Dex.

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:16:43 +0100
From: drifter@thenet.co.uk
Subject: Re: link cable

>Hi there,
>
>> I've used Sernet and Parnet in the past and I have to say that using the Par
>> port is far less painful :)
>> Software used was Parbench and I bought the cable 'cos I wouldn't make
>>my own
>> for fear of frying one of the 'puters ;)
>> It's easy...if I can do it...........
>
>;-) thanks for the advice, I will go for the parnet option, now all I need
>is the cable, software and the money to buy it :-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Taz
>--


Hiya Taz,
If you are interested i've got a parnet cable and network 2 cd from Wierd
Science that I used to hook up my old CD32 to my 1200 before I got around
to buying a "proper"cd rom and squirrel.
As you appear to be a tight git (read skint) I would be preparred to
exchange it for any games you have outgrown.
Get back to me if ya like.
Regards,Drifter.(Suffolk-UK)

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Granma - " I suppose so,why do you ask" ?
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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 12 Apr 98 02:54:39 +0100
Subject: 2.45am

The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????
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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:56:38 +0100
Subject: Re: 2.45am

Hi :)
On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
> this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????

How could you doubt it? ;)

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 12 Apr 98 03:06:53 +0100
Subject: Re: 2.45am

> Hi :)
> On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> > The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
> > this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????
>
> How could you doubt it? ;)
What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:17:03 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: 2.45am

Hi :)
On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
>>> The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
>>> this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????
>>
>> How could you doubt it? ;)

> What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->

Talking to my girlfriend as it happens. Whats your excused?

And how the hell am I going to justify this as being on topic?

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 12 Apr 98 03:32:17 +0100
Subject: Re: 2.45am

> Hi :)
> On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> >>> The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
> >>> this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????
> >>
> >> How could you doubt it? ;)
>
> > What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->
>
> Talking to my girlfriend as it happens. Whats your excused?
>
> And how the hell am I going to justify this as being on topic?
I am doing my web page for the Norwich Amiga User group and got stuck.
So to take my mind off it, i thought I would just nip over to see if
any one was like me, stuck ;-))
And yes this is a topic:-)) Web pages ??

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From: Carl Schmidt
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:19:20 +0500
Subject: Re: 2.45am

On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> > > The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the
> > > net at this time. Or is there someone going to answer this
> > > ????
> >
> > How could you doubt it? ;)
> What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->

Another Nite Owl here, wake up around noon to work from 3 PM,
usually hit the Sleeping Chair around 5 or 6 AM ....


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From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 12 Apr 98 11:11:44 +0100
Subject: (Fwd) Amiga Portable Digital Assistant


I ran across this message on comp.sys.amiga.games. I think this is a
great idea and I have allready sent off my responce. Now I wonder if
Amiga int/inc could help out?

=== BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE ===

Due to recent hardware developments it's now possible to design and
build a PDA running the amiga operating system.
As we all know the Amiga OS is very suitable for PDA's due to its small
size and low hardware requirements.

This PDA will run at about the same speed as a standard A1200, which
should be sufficient. After all, you wont be raytracing on a PDA :)

It will have a grayscale display at a resolution of about 640*200.

There will be a choice of 4, 8 or 16 mbytes of memory.

Most existing amiga programs will run on it. Software that bangs the
amiga hardware wont run since the PDA wont contain the amiga custom
chips.

It will at least have a PCMCIA port and a serialport.


Before we start to design this we need to know if there is a market for
it out there so please answer these questions.

1. Do you want a Amiga PDA?

2. How much would you be willing to pay? ( be realistic)

3. If you own a company would you be interested in investing in this
product? ( we will need funds )

4. Any comments?


Please send your reply to e96pega@mh1.hh.se and don't post it in the
newsgroup.

Thanks for your time.


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From: Ralph Twiss
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:46:16 +0100
Subject: Re[3]: Weekly stats

On 11-Apr-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
snip-->

> That digest is now on the Amiga Chatter web site at
>
> https://members.tripod.com/~amiga_chatter
>
> Alongside information about this list and joining instructions. I want to
> add loads of links to the site too, so if anyone has Amiga info on their
> web pages and wants a link let me know.


I have a page that is Amiga related ...it's about an Amiga user group in the
Wigan / West Lancs area , the main url is

www.wavenet.co.uk/users/twiss and the Amiga page is..

www.wavenet.co.uk/users/twiss/frame/usergroup/index.html

>
> Once I've got the page a little more organised I'll submit it to AWD which
> should get us some wider attention.
>
> So the stats are likely to stay unless people objected to them strongly. :)

Fine by me

Ralph

From: "Taz"
Date: 12 Apr 98 10:33:43 +0200
Subject: Re: link cable

> Hiya Taz,
> As you appear to be a tight git (read skint) I would be preparred to
> exchange it for any games you have outgrown.

LOL how did you know I was Scottish :-))

Sent ya a private email m8.

Taz

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From: "Taz"
Date: 12 Apr 98 10:21:19 +0200
Subject: Re: link cable


> Good luck mate, it's quite easy (apart from getting the money
> together that is ;)

Yeh especially since Resident Evil 2 is due out at the end of the month,
decisions decisions. So it might be a bit longer yet.


Taz
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From: "Taz"
Date: 12 Apr 98 10:44:24 +0200
Subject: Re: 2.45am

> >>> The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
> >>> this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????
> >>
> >> How could you doubt it? ;)
>
> > What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->
>
> Talking to my girlfriend as it happens. Whats your excused?

;-) that brings back memories of talking to my now wife at 3am on the phone
and then struggling to get up for work. Thats what happens Ego when you end
up in a over the pond relationship.

Still you have the "joy" of dealing with the ever so friendly British
Embassy if you take the plunge and get married and live here ;-)

Taz
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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:15:07 +0100
Subject: Re: link cable

Hi Taz,

On 12-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> Yeh especially since Resident Evil 2 is due out at the end of the month,
> decisions decisions. So it might be a bit longer yet.

Tsk Tsk, I don't envy you having to make such a difficult choice ;)

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 12 Apr 98 16:52:25 +0100
Subject: Re: 2.45am

> On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> > > > The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the
> > > > net at this time. Or is there someone going to answer this
> > > > ????
> > >
> > > How could you doubt it? ;)
> > What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->

Carl Schmidt's finger's tickled the keyboard and the outcome was:>
> Another Nite Owl here, wake up around noon to work from 3 PM,
> usually hit the Sleeping Chair around 5 or 6 AM ....
Is this weekday's only ?? As this is the weekend:->>
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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 12 Apr 98 17:02:57 +0100
Subject: Re: 2.45am

> > >>> The time is now 2.45am and I think I am the only one on the net at
> > >>> this time. Or is there someone going to answer this ????
> > >>
> > >> How could you doubt it? ;)
> >
> > > What the heck are you doing at this time of the morning;->
> >
> > Talking to my girlfriend as it happens. Whats your excused?
> Taz replied a bit late for me:-))
> ;-) that brings back memories of talking to my now wife at 3am on the phone
> and then struggling to get up for work. Thats what happens Ego when you end
> up in a over the pond relationship.
>
> Still you have the "joy" of dealing with the ever so friendly British
> Embassy if you take the plunge and get married and live here ;-)

So where are you Taz ?
I went to bed at about 4.30am as there was no reply's up till then;-)
I was seeing so many lines on my web page. I was shoot. Had to get
some sleep.8-(
No I didn't finish it:-(((( It is a bit of a pain at the moment.
Can't get the thumb pic to enlarge ???? what a bumer:-((((((((.
Have another look at it tonight. ( another late night or morning ).
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From: Steve Haigh
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:08:12 +0500
Subject: Re: link cable

On 12-Apr-98, drifter@thenet.co.uk carefully put 2 fingers to the keyboard and
picked out the following letters


>Hiya Taz,
>If you are interested i've got a parnet cable and network 2 cd from Wierd
>Science that I used to hook up my old CD32 to my 1200 before I got around
>to buying a "proper"cd rom and squirrel.
>As you appear to be a tight git (read skint) I would be preparred to
>exchange it for any games you have outgrown.
>Get back to me if ya like.
>Regards,Drifter.(Suffolk-UK)

If anyone else wants Amiga games, I`ve got loads of the damn things,
bags and bags of em. If anyone has a particular want I`ll have a look
and see if I have it (them).I even have some for the 500 (well lots
actually).Oh and a few CD32 roms too (about a dozen), and a CD32
that is not much use to me either.

Steve (note they are all originals in boxes, mainly, with the odd)
(ones just as floppies (original floppies))

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From: Quark
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:41:20 +0500
Subject: FTP

Any FTP clients for Miami out there?
Or can I use IB 1.2 or perhaps Dopus 4.12?

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From: Carl Schmidt
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:09:51 +0500
Subject: Re: 2.45am

On 12-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:

> Carl Schmidt's finger's tickled the keyboard and the outcome was:>
> > Another Nite Owl here, wake up around noon to work from 3 PM,
> > usually hit the Sleeping Chair around 5 or 6 AM ....

> Is this weekday's only ?? As this is the weekend:->>

Typical weeknite is anywhere from 3 to 4AM up to the 7AM "S**t,
I've /got/ to get to sleep NOW!"
Weekend nites depend on how the day has gone. Friday and Saturday
nites I tend to get settled in only after truly getting tired.
Could be up till only 4 AM, have gone as "late" as 7 or 8 or more
until zoning out.
Best cable TV and online time is in the wee small hours...

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From: "Taz"
Date: 12 Apr 98 21:52:12 +0200
Subject: Re: 2.45am

> So where are you Taz ?

If you mean where I live, UK, if you mean at 3:30am in my bed :-)

> I went to bed at about 4.30am as there was no reply's up till then;-)
> I was seeing so many lines on my web page. I was shoot. Had to get
> some sleep.8-(

My wife before we got married used to still be up and chatting on her local
BBS when she lived in the usa, till 6-7am, then go to work.

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From: Dex Kennedy
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:53:37 +0000
Subject: Re: FTP

#On 12-Apr-98 Quark wrote regarding: FTP#

Hi Quark,

> Any FTP clients for Miami out there?
> Or can I use IB 1.2 or perhaps Dopus 4.12?

AmFTP is probably the best. Get it from my Amiga site below :-)

Dex.

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From: "Taz"
Date: 13 Apr 98 15:19:34 +0200
Subject: Cheapest Towering Option



Okay has anyone any ideas on whats the cheapest way to tower an A1200? I
have heard of people using those cheap PC towers, or am I better saving up
and getting a proper tower, bearing in mind I am totally crap at DIY.

Cheers

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 13 Apr 98 19:12:32 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

> Taz fingers hit the keyboard and the word's come forth:
>
> Okay has anyone any ideas on whats the cheapest way to tower an A1200? I
> have heard of people using those cheap PC towers, or am I better saving up
> and getting a proper tower, bearing in mind I am totally crap at DIY.
I am going to get a tower at the WOA show. Might be cheaper too.

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:11:13 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

Hi,

On 13-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> Okay has anyone any ideas on whats the cheapest way to tower an A1200? I
> have heard of people using those cheap PC towers, or am I better saving up
> and getting a proper tower, bearing in mind I am totally crap at DIY.

Yup, I'd like some ideas too. I also suffer from the "Crap @ DIY Syndrome"
so the Power Tower looks like the best option to me.

Yeah, I know I've been here before but having added another HD to my poor old
1200 I have to rehouse it 'cos there are cables hanging out everywhere !


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From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 13 Apr 98 20:50:09 +0100
Subject: Re: FTP

In reply to what Quark said about "FTP"...

> Any FTP clients for Miami out there?
> Or can I use IB 1.2 or perhaps Dopus 4.12?
>

I would recomend AmFTP from Vapor, http://www.vapor.com.


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From: Quark
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:05:43 +0500
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

On the 13-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Paul Ferguson purred...
PF>Hi,

PF>On 13-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

PF>> Okay has anyone any ideas on whats the cheapest way to tower an A1200? I
PF>> have heard of people using those cheap PC towers, or am I better saving
up
PF>> and getting a proper tower, bearing in mind I am totally crap at DIY.

PF>Yup, I'd like some ideas too. I also suffer from the "Crap @ DIY Syndrome"
PF>so the Power Tower looks like the best option to me.

PF>Yeah, I know I've been here before but having added another HD to my poor
old
PF>1200 I have to rehouse it 'cos there are cables hanging out everywhere !

Right - I've done a DIY job recently, and I don't recommend it.
A £45 full tower (without PSU but I had one already) from Msquared (same
case is now £40) and after a lot of hacksawing and drilling it's now
sitting under my desk. I copied the Eyetech idea of mounting the
motherboard in such a way that a PC board can fit as well in the unlikely
event that I get a Siamese system. I haven't got round to extending the
ports out to the back yet (other than the PortJunior). When it's finally
done I reckon it won't be much cheaper than a commercial job, but I'm a bit
of a masochist.

Personal preferences:

Eyetech (because of the Siamese possibility, and slide-out board cradle).

Power Tower (looks very pretty - very funky lights!)

Personal no-no:

Blittersoft Tower (plastic - yuk!)

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From: Richard Drummond
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:57:01 +0100
Subject: Re: Mail lists

Hello!
On 10-Apr-98, Ralph Twiss wrote:
> Hi,
> is any one on the CU-Amiga list ? cos it seems to be on the blink again :-(

> , if it is it's the second time in 2 weeks .
>
> Good job this list is still on or I would think my internet conection had
gone
> deaf ????
>
> Ralph

If the CU mailing list goes down, it usually because either
a) 'Bitch', our infamous A4000T that runs the list, has crashed or is
non-functional
b) our mail server is down.

This time it was b) - although it seems to be working now. This is the first
time I've got any mail since Thursday!

Richard

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From: "Taz"
Date: 14 Apr 98 15:25:23 +0200
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

> I am going to get a tower at the WOA show. Might be cheaper too.

Wish we could go this year, but my Aunt is flying in from Aussie land then
and we haven't seen her in years so unfortuantly we aren't going :-(

Taz
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From: "Taz"
Date: 14 Apr 98 15:29:29 +0200
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

> Eyetech (because of the Siamese possibility, and slide-out board cradle).
>
> Power Tower (looks very pretty - very funky lights!)
>
> Personal no-no:
>
> Blittersoft Tower (plastic - yuk!)

Anyone had any experience of any of these? Any sugestions which is the
best/easiest for a non DIY soul?

I being the one who had to get his wife to fit the accelerator board as I
couldn't get it to fit, and didnt want to force it incase I broke the
bloody thing. Took her 5 minutes, and I had spent most of the day trying
:-)

Taz
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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 14 Apr 98 19:58:33 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

> > I am going to get a tower at the WOA show. Might be cheaper too.
>
> Wish we could go this year, but my Aunt is flying in from Aussie land then
> and we haven't seen her in years so unfortuantly we aren't going :-(
>
Taz,
Can't you bring her to London for a day out? and slip into the
WOA :-)
I am full of ****

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 14 Apr 98 19:39:44 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

> > Eyetech (because of the Siamese possibility, and slide-out board cradle).
> >
> > Power Tower (looks very pretty - very funky lights!)
> >
> > Personal no-no:
> >
> > Blittersoft Tower (plastic - yuk!)
>
> Anyone had any experience of any of these? Any sugestions which is the
> best/easiest for a non DIY soul?
>
> I being the one who had to get his wife to fit the accelerator board as I
> couldn't get it to fit, and didnt want to force it incase I broke the
> bloody thing. Took her 5 minutes, and I had spent most of the day trying
> :-)
All finger's and thumbs are we:-)
My missus can't put a plug on right:-(
So If I have any trouble I am stuck.

Norwich City FC forever
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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:23:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

Hi,

On 13-Apr-98, Quark wrote:

> Right - I've done a DIY job recently, and I don't recommend it.
> A £45 full tower (without PSU but I had one already) from Msquared (same
> case is now £40) and after a lot of hacksawing and drilling it's now
> sitting under my desk. I copied the Eyetech idea of mounting the
> motherboard in such a way that a PC board can fit as well in the unlikely
> event that I get a Siamese system. I haven't got round to extending the
> ports out to the back yet (other than the PortJunior). When it's finally
> done I reckon it won't be much cheaper than a commercial job, but I'm a bit
> of a masochist.

Well congrats on getting it done :)

I have to say that the very thought of doing it that way makes my blood run
cold ! I don't have any need for Siamese just yet and besides I already have
a PC here so I wouldn't need the extra space to mount another one in the case.

> Personal preferences:

> Eyetech (because of the Siamese possibility, and slide-out board cradle).

Yeah, but their reputation is erm...not the best around ;)

> Power Tower (looks very pretty - very funky lights!)

Yup, I have to agree here and TBH the operation of removing the 1200 from it's
casing and re-mounting it in the new one does'nt sound /too/ bad :)

> Personal no-no:

> Blittersoft Tower (plastic - yuk!)

Hehe...well ok it's not to everyones taste I s'pose but personally I wouldn't
want to go through the hassle of dealing with them anyway...not the most
honourable of companies when it comes to keeping the customer happy IYSWIM

Cheers,

Paul
(who's just hacked another powerline in his Powerstation to add another
HD :)
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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:15:16 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

Hi,

On 14-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> I being the one who had to get his wife to fit the accelerator board as I
> couldn't get it to fit, and didnt want to force it incase I broke the
> bloody thing. Took her 5 minutes, and I had spent most of the day trying

I had similar probs fitting my Blizzard but stumbled on a very easy solution.

Line up the card and use a wide paint scraper (yup thats right) against the
lip of the plastic casing over the terminals to push it on. This exerts a
nice even pressure over the full width of the connector and it slots in nicely
:)

I've used this method more than once, much to the amusement of anyone in the
room at the time. You should have seen the look I got from a mate when I asked
him for a paint scraper whilst fitting him RAM expansion board for him :)))

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From: Mark Sayers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:57:09 +0000
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

PF Hi,

Snip 8<

PF I had similar probs fitting my Blizzard but stumbled on a very easy
solution.

PF Line up the card and use a wide paint scraper (yup thats right)
against the
PF lip of the plastic casing over the terminals to push it on. This
exerts a
PF nice even pressure over the full width of the connector and it
slots in nicely

PF I've used this method more than once, much to the amusement of
anyone in the
PF room at the time. You should have seen the look I got from a mate
when I asked
PF him for a paint scraper whilst fitting him RAM expansion board for
him :)))

Someone must have used a similar method on my son's 1200. I bought
him a Blizzard 1230 IV at the weekend, fiitted it, no joy.

Dismantled to find gouge mark on M/Board severing five tracks to
expansion port. Eventually fixed with electrical silver paint and
lots of patience.

Back on thread I did a DIY tower (2000) recomended for O-level
metalworkers only.

CU Mark

From: Alan R Barr
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:17:30 +0000
Subject: Clickboom...Oh Dear!!

Hello Folks
Has the inevitable happened to Clickboom , has the Amiga curse got to them
as well !!! .

Check www.clickboom.com


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From: john owen-jones
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:35:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Clickboom...Oh Dear!!

On 14-Apr-98, Alan R Barr wrote:
> Hello Folks
> Has the inevitable happened to Clickboom , has the Amiga curse got to them
> as well !!! .
>
> Check www.clickboom.com
>

I did yesterday :)
but i didn't stop at page one
btw the quake player isn't bad pity my amiga is so slow.
It found my cd drive and started playin the prodigy at me whilst blastin
the bad guys a nice combo :)
only prob was finding 21 meg of hd space to unpack it

catch ya's

snoopy

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From: Bill Eaves
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:46:02 +0100
Subject: Re: Clickboom...Oh Dear!!

On 14-Apr-98, Alan R Barr wrote:

> Has the inevitable happened to Clickboom , has the Amiga curse got to them
> as well !!! .

He he, It nearly gave me a heart attack - they have my pre-order for Quake you
know! I got their email saying Bad news from ClickBoom. Oh no another Amiga
developer gone bust - aaarrrggghhh!

I checked the site at work today, it looked bad, next page looked not quite
right, by the third it was obviously a bl**dy advert for their new C&C
type game.

The gits! At least there was also news that ID had approved Quake and it is on
its way soon :-)


Such advertising obviously works but it as a bit much too excitement for those
of us advancing in years ;-)




Regards,

Bill.

From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
Subject: Shapeshifter ML
Date: 10 Apr 1998 19:34:38

Mark Sayers, you have been found guilty of saying 'Shapeshifter ML'. What have you to say in your defence?

MS> I can read mac format coverdisks (HFS). Not any other. I'm currently
MS> using the empcd.device. Should I swop to using direct scsi access ?

Well yes, I would suggest so. I use it on direct access and it works
perfectly. I can't really comment on the empcd.device as I haven't used it.

MS> Am I answering my own question doctor :-))

Sort of. You need to make sure you have the 'ISO9660 File Access' file
and the 'Foreign File Access' extensions in your System Folder:extensions
drawer of the Mac boot disk. This way it will read ISO9660 disks no problem.

Simon Archer

From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
Subject: Shapeshifter ML
Date: 10 Apr 1998 19:34:38

Mark Sayers, you have been found guilty of saying 'Shapeshifter ML'. What have you to say in your defence?

MS> I can read mac format coverdisks (HFS). Not any other. I'm currently
MS> using the empcd.device. Should I swop to using direct scsi access ?

Well yes, I would suggest so. I use it on direct access and it works
perfectly. I can't really comment on the empcd.device as I haven't used it.

MS> Am I answering my own question doctor :-))

Sort of. You need to make sure you have the 'ISO9660 File Access' file
and the 'Foreign File Access' extensions in your System Folder:extensions
drawer of the Mac boot disk. This way it will read ISO9660 disks no problem.

Simon Archer

Date: 15 Apr 98 01:35:55 +0100
From: "Norman Shearer"
Subject: Re: Hello

Hi Jim Burns, on 10-Apr-98 20:29:20 you caught my attention with the following prose:

NS>> I've heard of XPK but not tried it yet. Isn't that the packer that's
NS>> best for crunching mods? I did have the Abackup settings for LZX some
NS>> time ago and found it both faster and with better compression than
NS>> LHA. I might be

> Yes I found that too and use LZX in preference to LHA but at the time I
> had a measly 120mb HD andused XPK to crunch my text and guide files. I
> set this option up in MCP and have continued to use it.

There's still a lot to MCP I've yet to look into, that being one feature.
Sounds really useful and I could do with some space saving ideas ATM. Must
look into ding that myself..

NS>> If I can't get anywhere with LZX then I might give XPK a try. I
NS>> suppose I don't really need to be too concerned about compression
NS>> ratios nowadays. Speed is what I really want more than anything.

> If that`s the case, just leave at the default LHA, that way you`ll at
> least ge some savings on space. BTW how do you use Abackup ??. I normally
> use the backup to file option and store it on a spare partition. I`ve now
> got a 1gig, so I can afford to.

Yep, I currently use the backup to file option too. I thought that would be
my backup problems over but I never figured on the *domino* effect that
seems to happen when one partition goes down! Curse those hard errors. ;)

Hopefully CDRW will both guarantee data security and give me back some HD
space at the same time..

NS>> BTW, I'm sending my CDRW drive back tomorrow. I got the external SCSI
NS>> lead I needed to connect it yesterday. That's when I discovered the
NS>> tray mechanism is somehow knackered. It doesn't wanna open - tries
NS>> but only

> That`s a bugger,`aint it, having to wait for for your SCSI cable only to
> discover that. Maybe it wasn`t meant to be or are you getting a
> replacement *^/.

Sure am. After forking out for a SCSI lead, 15 CDR disks, 2 CDRW disks,
MasterISO and AsimCDFS there's no going back now! I'm gagging for a play on
it TBH and the wait is killing me. All my plans (Fusion, Backups etc) hinge
on it. I'm also considering getting a Cyberstorm SCSI interface (if one
will fit inside an A3000T) because I'm concerned that all my SCSI devices
are sharing the same interface and so data flow when writing to CDR/W might
be interrupted enough to cause buffer under-runs (basically means your CDR
disk becomes a toaster!).

Regards
MM>--------------- *A3000T* *50/060* ----------------/\/orm /// WB3.1 > 34MB RAM Yamaha CDRW4260 > M1764 monitor \\\
/// 56k modem > MFC III > 4X CDD > Picasso IV \\\
\\\ 3.2Gig SCSI HD's > Prelude soundcard ///
WW>--------------- norm@thenet.co.uk ----------------

From: "Taz"
Date: 15 Apr 98 17:07:30 +0200
Subject: Shapeshifter



Okay since CU gave a load of Shapeshifter stuff away on their CD, I am
going to have another attempt at running it :-))

What I need to know is I have an 030/40 which they say is okay, not
brilliant I know but its what I got. Anyway What I need to know is would I
get away with a 16meg of ram (noticed price drop so can afford it) or
should I really go for the 32meg?

Secondly where's the best place to get ram? should I get it from one of the
local PC shops that seem to change ram prices daily, usually downwards. If I
go for it from them, is there anything I should look out for? like 60 or
70?

thats all folks!

Taz
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From: Alan R Barr
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:14:58 +0000
Subject: Re: Clickboom Prank

Hello Folks
Ta for the replys , oh the "wascally wabbits" , yes Bill I have been
awaiting
Postman Pat for a month now , for Quake , had a go with the Quakeplayer
I don't know if it was me but Doom looked better??, but it looks a good
blast .

Any word on the release date yet .


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From: Bill Eaves
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:04:04 +0100
Subject: SWOS

Hi,

Anyone know what the latest evrsion of SWOS is and if it is available?

My step-son has SWOS 96/97 and wants an upgrade to a newer version.
To me football is about as exciting as going to work, so I have not a clue
about SWOS. If anyone knows what the latest version is, where you can get it,
is it worth it etc. then let me know.



Regards,

Bill.

From: Bill Eaves
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:09:26 +0100
Subject: Quake Demo was Re: Clickboom...Oh Dear!!

On 14-Apr-98, john owen-jones wrote:

>> Check www.clickboom.com
>>
>
> I did yesterday :)
> but i didn't stop at page one
> btw the quake player isn't bad pity my amiga is so slow.

I have no Gfxcard and still run AGA but the 060 plays it reallly nice :-)
of course that is a demo, it won't be as fast when *I* will be playing for
real :-(


> It found my cd drive and started playin the prodigy at me whilst blastin
> the bad guys a nice combo :)
> only prob was finding 21 meg of hd space to unpack it

I played it direct from the CD so no hard drive worries, of course I could not
listen to any music at the same time though.




Regards,

Bill.

From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:01:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

Hi,

On 15-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> Okay since CU gave a load of Shapeshifter stuff away on their CD, I am
> going to have another attempt at running it :-))

Are you sure about this mate ?? ;)

> What I need to know is I have an 030/40 which they say is okay, not
> brilliant I know but its what I got. Anyway What I need to know is would I
> get away with a 16meg of ram (noticed price drop so can afford it) or
> should I really go for the 32meg?

Hmmm I know it sounds like a broken record but, go for as much as you can
afford ! Adding large buffers to the HD you are running SS from is a must
unless you plan to wait 20 mins for it to load :(

> Secondly where's the best place to get ram? should I get it from one of the
> local PC shops that seem to change ram prices daily, usually downwards. If I
> go for it from them, is there anything I should look out for? like 60 or
> 70?

Erm well, I've always bought mine from Amiga dealers but I'm sure that someone
here will be able to say if EDO will work or not with your card.

> thats all folks!

G'luck mate :)

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From: "Taz"
Date: 15 Apr 98 21:04:38 +0200
Subject: u-net problems anyone?



Anyone else using u-net and Miami?

I tried to get on around 6pm and it stuck at login:
Then at 9pm stuck at login:

So I phoned support, and the bloke couldn't help, even after we went
through all the settings in Miami, he had heard of it but didn't have one
there. Seems there was no problem on the system, yet he had just had
someone else on with a Amiga and Miami saying the same thing.

His solution when he realised that I had another account that used Miami
and worked properly with another provider was to wait for it...... let the
Amiga have a good nights sleep and try again in the morning!

Thought I would try again, and guess what it suddenly works, weird....
Makes ya think there was something wrong at there end, since suddenly it
works just after a call to support.

Thats all folks!

Taz
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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:24:28 +0100
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

On 15-Apr-98, Taz wrote:


> Anyone else using u-net and Miami?

Yup

> I tried to get on around 6pm and it stuck at login:
> Then at 9pm stuck at login:

Erm no it's fine here. I'm using the 08453008112 number.
That would have been at just after 6pm and since then I've been
on twice, no problem.

> So I phoned support, and the bloke couldn't help, even after we went
> through all the settings in Miami, he had heard of it but didn't have one
> there. Seems there was no problem on the system, yet he had just had
> someone else on with a Amiga and Miami saying the same thing.

Wierd :(

> His solution when he realised that I had another account that used Miami
> and worked properly with another provider was to wait for it...... let the
> Amiga have a good nights sleep and try again in the morning!

Erm, not exactly helpful was he ? :(

> Thought I would try again, and guess what it suddenly works, weird....
> Makes ya think there was something wrong at there end, since suddenly it
> works just after a call to support.

Hehe, I got the same thing with BT. There's no dial tone so I call 'em on the
mobile and ask 'em to check it. A couple of lights flash on the modem as they
run a signal down the line and then they say, "No sir, your line is fine"
Sounds very similar don't it ?

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From: Bill Eaves
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:39:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Clickboom Prank

On 15-Apr-98, Alan R Barr wrote:

> had a go with the Quakeplayer
> I don't know if it was me but Doom looked better??, but it looks a good
> blast .

You must be kidding. Doom was fun for a while, sort of up to Breathless but
without the up and down bits.

The Quake demo kicks serious ass, I want to play it now even without Gfx card.
he 66MHz 060 makes a differnece I suppose :-)


> Any word on the release date yet .

The last news apart from CB #going bust# was that ID had approved Amiga Quake
and as soon as the CDs are pressed we will get them :-)




Regards,

Bill.

From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 14 Apr 98 23:39:45 +0100
Subject: Re: Clickboom...Oh Dear!!

I was passing by »PRIV.ML.Amiga-Chatter when I heard someone say "Re: Clickboom...Oh Dear!!".

> On 14-Apr-98, Alan R Barr wrote:
> > Hello Folks
> > Has the inevitable happened to Clickboom , has the Amiga curse got to them
> > as well !!! .
> >
> > Check www.clickboom.com
> >
>
> I did yesterday :)
> but i didn't stop at page one
> btw the quake player isn't bad pity my amiga is so slow.
> It found my cd drive and started playin the prodigy at me whilst blastin
> the bad guys a nice combo :)
> only prob was finding 21 meg of hd space to unpack it
>
> catch ya's
>

When the demo was released my hard drive wasn't big enough (I
upgraded on the weekend) and I don't have an FPU anyway so I installed
it on the PC at work, with UAE. Kind of poinless I know, I can play
WinQuake very nicely on that machine but I just had to see the Amiga
version running (I use the word *running* loosley).


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From: Alan R Barr
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:44:37 +0000
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

On 15-Apr-98, Taz, u-net problems anyone? wrote:
>
>
> Anyone else using u-net and Miami?
>
> I tried to get on around 6pm and it stuck at login:
> Then at 9pm stuck at login:
>
> So I phoned support, and the bloke couldn't help, even after we went
> through all the settings in Miami, he had heard of it but didn't have one
> there. Seems there was no problem on the system, yet he had just had
> someone else on with a Amiga and Miami saying the same thing.

Hi Taz
Was probably me , I rang ( rung ) support earlier on with the same problem
( and response ) but was asked if I was using windows95 , I said an Amiga
and that was him f***** , eventually contacted Neil Bothwick
(this was the X2 line , yes) and he said that the '120 line was tempr???
er....touchy and advised using the '0798112 No , which worked OK ,
rerang support and informed them that there was a problem with the
'120 No and was told to try the K56 No , which worked , albeit at 33.6
as with the '112 No , so I'll reenable the X2 No in Miami and give it a
large
portion of Amiga Power ;-) .





No go at 10.55pm.........


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From: Alan R Barr
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:10:52 +0000
Subject: Quake

Hi Bill
After a re-run of Quakeplayer I'll retract my statement , Yes it does kick
ass , hurry up Posty.........or Clickboom.

It looks and runs ok on the PicIV and '060 , makes one wonder what
the PPC version will be like....Gulp!!

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From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 15 Apr 98 22:55:55 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

In reply to what Taz said about "Shapeshifter"...

>
>
> Okay since CU gave a load of Shapeshifter stuff away on their CD, I am
> going to have another attempt at running it :-))
>
> What I need to know is I have an 030/40 which they say is okay, not
> brilliant I know but its what I got. Anyway What I need to know is would I
> get away with a 16meg of ram (noticed price drop so can afford it) or
> should I really go for the 32meg?

I don't know about Shapeshifter but if you can afford 32Mb ram I would
suggest going for it. You can never have too much ram (or hard drive
space, or CPU power etc.). I upgraded from 8 to 16 just a few weeks
ago and its turned my Amiga into a totaly new machine, I never knew
Amiga computing could be this good!

> Secondly where's the best place to get ram? should I get it from one of the
> local PC shops that seem to change ram prices daily, usually downwards. If I
> go for it from them, is there anything I should look out for? like 60 or
> 70?

Ask them how fast the memory is, 60 ns ram is ideal. If your a bit
worried about the ram not working with your machine ask them if you
can return the ram, even though it might still work on one of their
PCs. You can never be too careful with ram, I know someone who bought
ram for his A1200 and it didn't work, and he couldn't get a refund as
the ram wasn't faulty. He sold the ram to a PC owner and got his money
back, but I think he was very lucky.


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From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
Subject: RE: Towers
Date: 15 Apr 1998 23:25:58

On the subject of towers, look out for my 'Tower of Power' A4k
on the CU stand this WoA :)

Who knows what it'll be up to

Looks like 'Suzanne' is dead, the A620 Turbo died. Time for the Viper 030 card.
Long live Suz!

Simon Archer

From: Quark
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:56:00 +0500
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

On the 14-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Paul Ferguson purred...

PF>> Eyetech (because of the Siamese possibility, and slide-out board cradle).

PF>Yeah, but their reputation is erm...not the best around ;)

Really? I've bought a PortJunior, 4 way IDE and EZdf0 from them and any
problems I had were sorted by them straight away (ie it was my fault). The
only difficulty I actually had with them was trying to get through to their
technical support.

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From: Quark
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:23:00 +0500
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On the 15-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Taz purred...

T>What I need to know is I have an 030/40 which they say is okay, not
T>brilliant I know but its what I got. Anyway What I need to know is would I
T>get away with a 16meg of ram (noticed price drop so can afford it) or
T>should I really go for the 32meg?

Just like HDs, always go for as much as you can afford, 'cos you'll find
yourself running out eventually!

T>Secondly where's the best place to get ram? should I get it from one of the
T>local PC shops that seem to change ram prices daily, usually downwards. If I
T>go for it from them, is there anything I should look out for? like 60 or
T>70?

A few months ago I bought a 32mb EDO simm for £42 (I think) at an All
Formats fair. Works fine in my Blizzard. Make sure your board will take
double-sided simms. I suspect that EDO simms are 60ns - but anyway if you
look at the serial number on the ram chips you should see a 60 near the end.
Baldrick says something about checking that EDO works in your board - I
always thought that EDO was simply ignored in Amiga boards, but I bow to
his superior wossname.

Right, let's have a look in the Msquared PC catalogue... 32mb £38 inc vat.
www.msquared.co.uk

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What film has the line "You lose it here, you're in a world of hurt"?

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From: "Taz"
Date: 15 Apr 98 21:15:27 +0200
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

Hi Baldrick,

> Are you sure about this mate ?? ;)

:-)) I thinks so :-) I remember the long chats we had on IRC the last time
I tried it, still it will give me something to write about on this list :-)

> Hmmm I know it sounds like a broken record but, go for as much as you can
> afford ! Adding large buffers to the HD you are running SS from is a must
> unless you plan to wait 20 mins for it to load :(

Well at a big push I could afford the 32meg of ram, but thats really
pushing it,(cause Resident Evil 2 is due soon! and I doubt Rachel will be
too pleased if I spend all the spare cash on my toys;-) )

> Erm well, I've always bought mine from Amiga dealers but I'm sure that someone
> here will be able to say if EDO will work or not with your card.

Well I was thinking of getting it from First Computing in Leeds, since I
have bought most of my extras of them in the past.

> G'luck mate :)

Some how I think I will need a lot of luck, if the last attempt was
anything to go buy :-)

Thats All Folks

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From: ""
Date: 16 Apr 98 15:37:10 +0100
Subject: AF is killing the Amiga!!

Hi,

Got AF today and next month it is giving away ANOTHER free game -
F1GP. I wouldn't mind if it was an old game which you cant get no more
or a game such as putty squad or pizza tycoon which was finished but
never released, but NOT a game which at the moment is in the shops.
As a result less copies of UFO and F1GP will be sold which will force
Amiga retailers out of business and encourage more shops to stop
selling amiga products.

what are your views on the matter?

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From: "Taz"
Date: 16 Apr 98 18:15:59 +0200
Subject: bloody u-net failing again



Hi,

Has anyone else using u-net tonight had failed login on both the X2 and K56
lines? its just hapened to me again :-( BT must love this....

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From: "Taz"
Date: 16 Apr 98 18:09:22 +0200
Subject: Thanks



Just a quick Thanks to everyone who has helped with advice about
Shapeshifter, and the ram bit :-)

Thats all folks

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From: "Taz"
Date: 16 Apr 98 18:07:46 +0200
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?


> Erm no it's fine here. I'm using the 08453008112 number.
> That would have been at just after 6pm and since then I've been
> on twice, no problem.

Seems it is defiantly the X2 line then :-(

> Erm, not exactly helpful was he ? :(

Too true, pretty poor support, whats the use of 24hr support when they give
you crap advise as "let your Amiga sleep on it".

Well I have to say in their defense that its the first major problem I have
had with them.

Thats all folks,

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From: "Taz"
Date: 16 Apr 98 18:04:33 +0200
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

> Was probably me , I rang ( rung ) support earlier on with the same problem
> ( and response ) but was asked if I was using windows95 , I said an Amiga
> and that was him f***** , eventually contacted Neil Bothwick
> (this was the X2 line , yes) and he said that the '120 line was tempr???
> er....touchy and advised using the '0798112 No , which worked OK ,
> rerang support and informed them that there was a problem with the
> '120 No and was told to try the K56 No , which worked , albeit at 33.6
> as with the '112 No , so I'll reenable the X2 No in Miami and give it a
> large
> portion of Amiga Power ;-) .

Yep I use the X2 line, wonder why they never told me to try the other
number, or mention that they had been informed that there was a problem on
that number. Its more annoying since it was obviously the same person you
spoke to that I did.

Still it worked this morning, wonder if I can send this mail :-)

Thats all folks,

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From: Alan R Barr
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:01:19 +0000
Subject: Re: bloody u-net failing again

On 16-Apr-98, Taz, bloody u-net failing again wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone else using u-net tonight had failed login on both the X2 and
K56
> lines? its just hapened to me again :-( BT must love this....

Hi again
Yus , got in at 15.00 to-day , but nogo at 16.15........BUT ok on the
112.

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:36:37 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On 15-Apr-98, Quark wrote:
>Baldrick says something about checking that EDO works in your board - I
> always thought that EDO was simply ignored in Amiga boards, but I bow to
> his superior wossname.

Superior wossname ? Me ? ROFLMAO !!

Do you forget Sire, that I once wore the crown of KOTT ??

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:52:34 +0100
Subject: Re: bloody u-net failing again

On 16-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> Has anyone else using u-net tonight had failed login on both the X2 and K56
> lines? its just hapened to me again :-( BT must love this....

Erm sorry mate but I've got on OK tonight on the number I mentioned in that
other mail.

Sympathies with your prob mate, hope you get it sorted *soon *!!

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:51:08 +0100
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

On 16-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

>> Erm no it's fine here. I'm using the 08453008112 number.
>> That would have been at just after 6pm and since then I've been
>> on twice, no problem.

> Seems it is defiantly the X2 line then :-(

Would seem so mate yes :(

>> Erm, not exactly helpful was he ? :(

> Too true, pretty poor support, whats the use of 24hr support when they give
> you crap advise as "let your Amiga sleep on it".

Hmmm *not* good for the reputation :(

> Well I have to say in their defense that its the first major problem I have
> had with them.

I've had various 'niggles' but have to say that all in all the service has
been fine. I do tend to ask Neil B before U-Net support though :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:32:43 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

On 14-Apr-98, Quark wrote:

>> Yeah, but their reputation is erm...not the best around ;)

> Really? I've bought a PortJunior, 4 way IDE and EZdf0 from them and any
> problems I had were sorted by them straight away (ie it was my fault). The
> only difficulty I actually had with them was trying to get through to their
> technical support.

Hehe well yes I s'pose I have to agree here with the "it was my fault" as I
had the same type of probs too including not being able to get hold of one of
their techs.

Maybe I've got them mixed up with another company but ISTR seeing mails about
the poor after sales service and the lack of info on availability of products
that they are already advertising as being available...hmmm

Ho hum

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:35:12 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

Hi Taz,

On 15-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

>> Are you sure about this mate ?? ;)

> :-)) I thinks so :-) I remember the long chats we had on IRC the last time
> I tried it, still it will give me something to write about on this list :-)

Well if I can help you know where to find me :)

> Well at a big push I could afford the 32meg of ram, but thats really
> pushing it,(cause Resident Evil 2 is due soon! and I doubt Rachel will be
> too pleased if I spend all the spare cash on my toys;-) )

Uhu understood, you'll have to keep KK sweet !!

>> Erm well, I've always bought mine from Amiga dealers but I'm sure that
someone
>> here will be able to say if EDO will work or not with your card.

> Well I was thinking of getting it from First Computing in Leeds, since I
> have bought most of my extras of them in the past.

At least that way you should be sure of compatability. I for one haven't tried
EDO in my Blizzard (yet) so I can't say for sure about it. I'm sure that
someone out there will be able to advise though :)

>> G'luck mate :)

> Some how I think I will need a lot of luck, if the last attempt was
> anything to go buy :-)

Nah, this time you'll sail through it .. you'll see :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:49:29 +0100
Subject: OT: S/ware probs :))

Hi,

( This isn't me BTW, I just found it in my work mailbox :)

Subject: Incompatible software programs

I'm currently running the latest version of GirlFriend and I've been
having some problems lately.

I've been running the same version of DrinkingBuddies 1.0 forever as
my primary application, and all the GirlFriend releases I've tried have
always conflicted with it.

I hear that DrinkingBuddies runs fine as long as GirlFriend is run in
background mode and the sound is turned off. Unfortunately, I can't
find the switch to turn the sound off. Therefore, I have to run both of them
separately.

GirlFriend also seems to have a problem coexisting with my Golf
program, often trying to abort Golf with some sort of timing incompatibility.
On a positive note, DrinkingBuddies and Golf seem to have no
incompatibilities whatsoever.

I probably should have stayed with GirlFriend 1.0, but I thought I
might see better performance from GirlFriend 2.0. After months of conflicts
and
other problems, I consulted a friend who has had experience with GirlFriend
2.0.

He said I probably didn't have enough cache to run GirlFriend 2.0,
and eventually it would require a Token Ring to run properly. He was
right - as soon as I purged my cache, and realized that no one in their right
mind is installing new Token Rings, Girlfriend 2.0 uninstalled itself.

Shortly after that, I installed GirlFriend 3.0 beta. Unfortunately,
there was a bug in the program and the first time I used it, it gave me a
virus. I had to clean out my whole system and shut down for a while.

I very cautiously upgraded to GirlFriend 4.0. This time I used a SCSI
probe first and also installed a virus protection program. It worked okay
for a while until I discovered that GirlFriend 1.0 was still in my system.
I tried running GirlFriend 1.0 again with GirlFriend 4.0 still installed, but
GirlFriend 4.0 has a feature I idn't know about that automatically
senses the presence of any other version of GirlFriend and communicates with
it
in some way. This results in the immediate removal of both versions.

The version I have now works pretty well, but there are still some
problems. Like all versions of GirlFriend, it is written in some obscure
language I can't understand, much less reprogram. Frankly I think there is too
much attention paid to the look and feel rather than the desired
functionality.
Also, to get the best connections with your hardware, you usually
have to use gold-plated contacts. And I've never liked how GirlFriend is
"object-oriented."

A year ago, a friend of mine upgraded his version of GirlFriend to
GirlFriendPlus 1.0, which is a Terminate and Stay Resident version of
GirlFriend. He discovered that GirlFriendPlus 1.0 expires within a
year if you don't upgrade to Fiancee 1.0. So he did, but soon after that, he
had to upgrade to Wife 1.0, which he describes as a huge resource hog. It
has taken up all his space he can't load anything else. One of the primary
reasons he decided to go with Wife 1.0 was because it came supposedly came
bundled with a feature called FreeSexPlus.

Well, it turns out the resource requirements of Wife 1.0 sometimes
prohibits access to FreeSexPlus particularly the new Plug-Ins he wanted to
try.
On top of that, Wife 1.0 must be running on a well warmed-up system before
he can do anything.

Although he did not ask for it, Wife 1.0 came with MotherInLaw which
has an automatic pop-up feature he can't turn off. I told him to try
installing Mistress 1.0, but he said he heard if you try to run it without
first
uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before
uninstalling itself. Then Mistress 1.0 won't install because of insufficient
resources.

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:32:38 +0100
Subject: Siamese 2.1 offer

Hi All,

Has anyone else considered this offer yet ?

Looks kinda 'interesting' to me as I have the PC and 1200
virtually side by side here.

Oh and while I think of it, this kit needs a Null Modem cable.
Now, I have a cable here that I /thin/k/ /would be ok but, if it isn't
would it damage either machine if I tried it ?

Just thought I'd ask ;)

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From: Mark Sayers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:10:46 +0000
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter


SNIP

Q A few months ago I bought a 32mb EDO simm for £42 (I think) at an
All
Q Formats fair. Works fine in my Blizzard. Make sure your board will
take
Q double-sided simms. I suspect that EDO simms are 60ns - but anyway
if you
Q look at the serial number on the ram chips you should see a 60 near
the end.
Q Baldrick says something about checking that EDO works in your board
- I
Q always thought that EDO was simply ignored in Amiga boards, but I
bow to
Q his superior wossname.

I have 32 EDO in a Blizzard 2040ERC seems fine paid £27 at Bristol All
Formats.
(sorry Amiga dealers I'll buy some new software + picassoIV @ WOA)

p.s. my never ending SShifter saga is over, it works :-)
Turns out Blizzard 2040 owners have to use PrepareEmul with A1200
switch.

Now all I need is more hardware for the hungry Mac side.

CU Mark

From: Mark Sayers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:19:44 +0000
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

Paul Ferguson brought forth the following

PF Hehe, I got the same thing with BT. There's no dial tone so I call
'em on the
PF mobile and ask 'em to check it. A couple of lights flash on the
modem as they
PF run a signal down the line and then they say, "No sir, your line is
fine"
PF Sounds very similar don't it ?

If you get no dial try dialing anyway as the dial tone is only a
'comfort tone' provided by your local exchange.

Quite often the call can still be made.

n.b. this is applicable to voice calls not modem calls.

CU Mark

From: Quark
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:38:04 +0500
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On the 16-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Paul Ferguson purred...
PF>On 15-Apr-98, Quark wrote:
PF>>Baldrick says something about checking that EDO works in your board - I
PF>> always thought that EDO was simply ignored in Amiga boards, but I bow to
PF>> his superior wossname.

PF>Superior wossname ? Me ? ROFLMAO !!

Rolls Over FLoor mmm... Really Old Fella Likes Making Aubergine Omelettes..
I give up....

PF>Do you forget Sire, that I once wore the crown of KOTT ??

I crave your pardon, your majestic thickyness... forgive this humble
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From: Bill Eaves
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:38:29 +0100
Subject: Stats.

Hi,


Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings tonight
:-p




Bill.

From: Bill Eaves
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:43:04 +0100
Subject: Re: OT: S/ware probs :))

On 16-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ( This isn't me BTW, I just found it in my work mailbox :)
>
> Subject: Incompatible software programs
>
> I'm currently running the latest version of GirlFriend and I've been
> having some problems lately.

He he, I saw that in Focus magazine a while back in the letters page, the
month
after they did a silly feature on Virtual Girlfriends.

Mind you they are getting too serious these days, not long ago their Computer
related sectioe was about the comeback of the Amiga :-)




Regards,

Bill.

From: Bill Eaves
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:37:25 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On 16-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> Hi Taz,

> At least that way you should be sure of compatability. I for one haven't
tried
> EDO in my Blizzard (yet) so I can't say for sure about it. I'm sure that
> someone out there will be able to advise though :)


Well if it's any help. I have had 32Mb EDO in both Blizzard 1230/III and the
SCSI unit for the 1260 and it works fine in both ;-)



Regards,

Bill.

Date: 17 Apr 98 02:57:36 +0100
From: Dieter Schmitt
Subject: PoerUp-SCSI and Buster

Hi!

I am owning an A3000 and I am thinking about buying a PowerUp
accelerator board.

I heard, that with an A3000 it is required to install a cable, which
will allow the system to handle interrupts between the A3000 onboard
SCSI and the controller on the PowerUp board (as far as I understood
it).

I also heard, that this modification on the motherboard is not
required, if the revision of Buster were V11 and higher.

So what is right? If the Buster-thing is true, is there a tool around
to read out the revision nr. (for I hate to open the narrow A3000)?

Regards,

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Date: 16 Apr 98 19:03:21 +0100
From: "Norman Shearer"
Subject: Re: AF is killing the Amiga!!

Hi , on 16-Apr-98 15:37:10 you caught my attention with the following prose:
> Hi,

> Got AF today and next month it is giving away ANOTHER free game -
> F1GP.

Hmm.. I'd be tempted to get that issue - my copy is a real PITA trying to
get it to install to HD. But at the same time, I definately will not be
buying AF that month because IMV they are doing the Amiga community a
disservice..

> I wouldn't mind if it was an old game which you cant get no more
> or a game such as putty squad or pizza tycoon which was finished but
> never released, but NOT a game which at the moment is in the shops.
> As a result less copies of UFO and F1GP will be sold which will force
> Amiga retailers out of business and encourage more shops to stop
> selling amiga products.

Exactly. I can only imagine AF is in serious trouble and is staving off
closure by any means possible. It would be sad to see AF go because they do
give the Amiga some well needed exposure - if only by the mag sitting on a
newsagent shelf.

> what are your views on the matter?

I must confess I'm not really into the Amiga games scene any more.
Partially because I have a PSX, but mostly because I never seem to find the
time. I still am concerned about the games scene though because I know how
dependant the Amiga's survival was on games in the best. Perhaps it's a
sign of the times? Now more Amigan's have expanded their Amiga's now the
more serious side to this platform is finally coming to the fore? With the
PC now becoming the choice for gamers..

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From: Bill Eaves
Subject: Re: AF is killing the Amiga!!
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 12:23:17 +0100 ( + )

Norman Shearer wrote:


> Exactly. I can only imagine AF is in serious trouble and is staving off
> closure by any means possible. It would be sad to see AF go because they do
> give the Amiga some well needed exposure - if only by the mag sitting on a
> newsagent shelf.

I got the mag yesterday and it was noticeably thinner than before. I don't like it when magazines get thin, Shopper did it then closed, AC did it then closed.

Is this really the end of AF ?




Bill.

From: Ralph Twiss
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:53:09 +0100
Subject: Scanners

Hi,
there was an enquiry about scanners a few weeks ago , and costs <-> speeds
. The one I mentioned (Scanmaker E3) I quoted at £100+ is now for sale at PC
World for >£80

That means that you can now get a scanner & driver for £100 approx....... for
a scsi scanner.

The driver Scantek is under constant development.

Mail me if you want more info

Ralph

From: "Taz"
Date: 17 Apr 98 15:21:54 +0200
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?


Baldrick said>

> I've had various 'niggles' but have to say that all in all the service has
> been fine. I do tend to ask Neil B before U-Net support though :)


Yeh sent a email to Neil B complaining about the u-net support bloke, he
says its not the answer anyone should recieve. He also said there was/is a
problem with X2 lines at the moment :-(

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Date: 17 Apr 98 09:26:08 +0000
From: "Andy Thomson"
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

In reply to Paul Ferguson on 15-Apr-98 18:01:28:

>> Secondly where's the best place to get ram? should I get it from one of the
>> local PC shops that seem to change ram prices daily, usually downwards. If
>> I go for it from them, is there anything I should look out for? like 60 or
>> 70?

>Erm well, I've always bought mine from Amiga dealers but I'm sure that
>someone here will be able to say if EDO will work or not with your card.

The RAM on the main board of the A4000 is 70ns non-parity, I have a Cyberstorm
card and use 60ns non-parity for that. FYI the last 16Meg came from SMC.


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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:25:26 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On 16-Apr-98, Quark wrote:

> Rolls Over FLoor mmm... Really Old Fella Likes Making Aubergine Omelettes..
> I give up....

Rolling On The Floor Lauging My Ass Off ;)

> I crave your pardon, your majestic thickyness... forgive this humble
> pretender.

Of course the crown is always under attack ..

/me wonders if Anders is on this ML ?

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:28:53 +0100
Subject: Re: Stats.

On 16-Apr-98, Bill Eaves wrote:

> Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings tonight
> :-p

And tonight too :))))

(Oh and there's just 1 's' BTW :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:59:35 +0100
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

On 16-Apr-98, Mark Sayers wrote:

> If you get no dial try dialing anyway as the dial tone is only a
> 'comfort tone' provided by your local exchange.

Aha..ok but I was talking about the modem really and this won't dial out
without the tone

> n.b. this is applicable to voice calls not modem calls.

See above :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:30:16 +0100
Subject: Re: OT: S/ware probs :))

On 16-Apr-98, Bill Eaves wrote:

> He he, I saw that in Focus magazine a while back in the letters page, the
> month after they did a silly feature on Virtual Girlfriends.

I don't get that mag so I think it's the first time I've seen that particular
joke :)

> Mind you they are getting too serious these days, not long ago their
Computer
> related sectioe was about the comeback of the Amiga :-)

I believe....... do you ?

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:27:51 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On 16-Apr-98, Bill Eaves wrote:

> Well if it's any help. I have had 32Mb EDO in both Blizzard 1230/III and the
> SCSI unit for the 1260 and it works fine in both ;-)

Well there y'go....unfortunately I think Taz has another make of card ?
All I said was that I wasn't sure if EDO would work with /his /card but
I'm sure others here would be glad to know that it /will/ work with a
Blizzard. Me especially as in my newish line ofwork I /may/ have the
opportunity to pick some up cheap :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:07:09 +0100
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

On 17-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> Yeh sent a email to Neil B complaining about the u-net support bloke, he
> says its not the answer anyone should recieve. He also said there was/is a
> problem with X2 lines at the moment :-(

Hmm red faces @ U-Net Support then....serves 'em right.

I know it's a bugger but at least you know that it's them not you.
Small consolation but hopefully they'll get it sorted soon :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:52:46 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

Hi,

On 17-Apr-98, Andy Thomson wrote:

> The RAM on the main board of the A4000 is 70ns non-parity, I have a
Cyberstorm
> card and use 60ns non-parity for that. FYI the last 16Meg came from SMC.

Ahh but thats in the 4000 we were talking about the 1200 accelerators.
Anyway, thanks for the info, I'll bear it in mind if I'm ever lucky enough
to get a 4k :))

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 17 Apr 98 19:20:27 +0100
Subject: Re: Stats.

bill scribes:-
>
>
> Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings tonight
> :-p
Theres still time to get in on the act !!!!!
:-/
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From: Steve Haigh
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:19:10 +0500
Subject: Re: OT: S/ware probs :))

On 16-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson carefully put 2 fingers to the keyboard and picked
out the following letters
>Hi,

>( This isn't me BTW, I just found it in my work mailbox :)

>Subject: Incompatible software programs

I have about 50 mails about computer software like Wife 1.0
I get 2 jokes a day from a friend in the US.
If this list gets quiet I`ll pop the odd one up here
unless someone objects (more than 2 no`s mailed to
me personally will be considered a veto)

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From: Steve Haigh
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:15:30 +0500
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On 16-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson carefully put 2 fingers to the keyboard and picked
out the following letters
because
>On 15-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

>> Well at a big push I could afford the 32meg of ram, but thats really
>> pushing it,(cause Resident Evil 2 is due soon! and I doubt Rachel will be
>> too pleased if I spend all the spare cash on my toys;-) )

Rachel ? I know a Rachel.

>Uhu understood, you'll have to keep KK sweet !!

KK ? I know a KK too. In fact I know a Rachel called KK.
Hmmm.
Taz ?.... nope.... don`t know a Taz
Maybe it`s one of those mysteries that will never be solved
Unlike the "Why do Scotsmen wear kilts ?" "Cos Scottish sheep
can hear a zipper being pulled from miles away" :-)

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From: Dave Fisher
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:48:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

Hi Paul,

On 14-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re: Cheapest Towering Option,

> (who's just hacked another powerline in his Powerstation to add another
> HD :)

Ah ha ! That explains why the lights kept flickering ;)

*[Vader]*

From: Dave Fisher
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:25:32 +0100
Subject: BoXeR price announced! (fwd)

Hi all.

BoXeR looks like a non-starter :))

** Original Written By gary@empire.u-net.com, Forwarded By Dave **
Hello folks,

Blittersoft have just announced that the Index BoXeR motherboard will sell
for £479.95 - that's for the bare board with no CPU.

See http://www.blittersoft.co.uk for details.

Blittersoft says Mick Tinker of Index will be at WOA so people can ask him
about the BoXeR. I'd love to know how the hell he expects to sell any of
them at this crazy price :-/

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From: Dave Fisher
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:04:27 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

Hi Taz,

On 14-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re: Cheapest Towering Option,

>> Blittersoft Tower (plastic - yuk!)

> Anyone had any experience of any of these? Any sugestions which is the
> best/easiest for a non DIY soul?

I've got the Blittersoft-yukky-plastic-one. Real name, MicroniK infinitiv :)

Well, IMO, its a rip off, but at the time it was the only one about, infact I
originally ordered the Eagle tower, but BS changed to MicroniK :( Anyway, my
tower is very weak in the fact its entirely plastic, but I believe the newer
ones now come supplied with a metal frame for the motherboard cradle. It was
very easy to assemble, my main problems were, a) instructions in German, and
b) the Video-Option module had to be soldered to the A1200 m/board - and it
had German instructions too :) That said, the tower assy was very easy itself,
the new VO module clips onto the m/board now I believe.

I've had zero problems with the actual tower, the only thing is some slot
cutouts are too short, so certain expansion boards don't fit very well. If you
are interested in it, try visiting Weird Science as they have a show room,
where you can probably have a damn good look at the full thing.

Its all really down to personal preference. I had no choice at the time, I
wanted a PIV so had to get a tower. Despite costing a bloody fortune, I don't
regret it, even with the shit loads of hassle I got from the distributor.

IMO, you won't regret towering, *but* with the new h/ware being released
shortly, it might pay to hang on for a while. But like most things computer,
you could be saying that for ever more.

FWIW, I've got a P-IV, Z1-i ZII Busboard, Blizzard A1260, MultifaceIII I/O
card all installed in the tower, and none of these have given me any problems
at all.

ALL of MicroniKs components have changed significantly since buying my tower,
(the only one I know of thats changed for the worse is the k/board interface)
so they may be easier or better to use/assemble now anyway.

All opinions expressed in this message, are my personal ones :)

Hope thats of some use,

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From: Richard Drummond
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:11:19 +0100
Subject: TV Amazing?

Hi.

Is anybody out there using a TV-Amazing thingie? If so, can you answer this
question:

The TV-Amazing has a VGA-in (and out) port which can take the RGB signal from
an Amiga. Am I correct in assuming that it does not scan-double this signal?
It passes through Productivity modes OK and displays them on a VGA monitor and
it scan-doubles the composite video inputs and display them, but I cannot get
it to display PAL or NTSC screen modes via RGB. Can anyone help?

Cheers,
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From: Ralph Twiss
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:50:22 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: AF is killing the Amiga!!

On 17-Apr-98, Bill Eaves wrote:
> Norman Shearer wrote:
>
>
>> Exactly. I can only imagine AF is in serious trouble and is staving off
>> closure by any means possible. It would be sad to see AF go because they do
>> give the Amiga some well needed exposure - if only by the mag sitting on a
>> newsagent shelf.
>
> I got the mag yesterday and it was noticeably thinner than before. I don't
like it when magazines get thin, Shopper did it then closed, AC did it then
closed.
>
> Is this really the end of AF ?

> Bill.

I counted the pages ...........not realy just looked at the last
number.....and the last there mags had the same number of pages

Ralph

From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:20:14 +0100
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

Hi Steve

On 17-Apr-98, Steve Haigh wrote:

> Rachel ? I know a Rachel.

Thought you might :)

>> Uhu understood, you'll have to keep KK sweet !!

> KK ? I know a KK too. In fact I know a Rachel called KK.
> Hmmm.

Now there's a coincidence

> Taz ?.... nope.... don`t know a Taz
> Maybe it`s one of those mysteries that will never be solved
> Unlike the "Why do Scotsmen wear kilts ?" "Cos Scottish sheep
> can hear a zipper being pulled from miles away" :-)

You *do* know a Taz....fuuny how you should connect Taz, Scotsmen and sheep :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:24:18 +0100
Subject: Re: Stats.

Hello Paul

On 17-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> bill scribes:-
>>
>>
>> Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings tonight
>> :-p
> Theres still time to get in on the act !!!!!
> :-/

So go for it mate , go for it !!

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:21:25 +0100
Subject: Re: OT: S/ware probs :))

Hello Steve

On 17-Apr-98, Steve Haigh wrote:

> I have about 50 mails about computer software like Wife 1.0
> I get 2 jokes a day from a friend in the US.
> If this list gets quiet I`ll pop the odd one up here
> unless someone objects (more than 2 no`s mailed to
> me personally will be considered a veto)

IMHO anything like that would help to brighten my day :)

Take this as a YES vote :)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:23:43 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheapest Towering Option

Hi Dave

On 17-Apr-98, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On 14-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re: Cheapest Towering Option,

>> (who's just hacked another powerline in his Powerstation to add another
>> HD :)

> Ah ha ! That explains why the lights kept flickering ;)

Perzackerly mate ;#)

That will explain why the kitchen lights blew here also :(

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From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 17 Apr 98 10:48:11 +0100
Subject: Re: AF is killing the Amiga!!

In reply to what said about "AF is killing the Amiga!!"...

> Hi,
>
> Got AF today and next month it is giving away ANOTHER free game -
> F1GP. I wouldn't mind if it was an old game which you cant get no more
> or a game such as putty squad or pizza tycoon which was finished but
> never released, but NOT a game which at the moment is in the shops.
> As a result less copies of UFO and F1GP will be sold which will force
> Amiga retailers out of business and encourage more shops to stop
> selling amiga products.
>
> what are your views on the matter?

It might be that the games company (Guildhall in this case I think)
asked AF if they would pay an amount of money to covermount the game
as it wasn't selling anymore. If the game is just sitting there on the
shelves, it's not making any money, so give it one last big push and
flog the licence to AF. Of course, that might not be the case in this
case.


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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 17 Apr 98 22:46:59 +0100
Subject: Re: bloody u-net failing again

> Taz scribed:-
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone else using u-net tonight had failed login on both the X2 and K56
> lines? its just hapened to me again :-( BT must love this....
>
> Taz
Sorry to say Taz, I have had no problem all this week.

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 17 Apr 98 22:42:44 +0100
Subject: Re: Stats.

> Hello Paul
> On 17-Apr-98 Paul Fergusson scribed:-
> On 17-Apr-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> > bill scribes:-
> >>
> >>
> >> Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings tonight
> >> :-p
> > Theres still time to get in on the act !!!!!
> > :-/
>
> So go for it mate , go for it !!
I am doing my best, honest ;-))))

Paul
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From: Steve Haigh
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:22:43 +0500
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On 18-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson carefully put 2 fingers to the keyboard and picked
out the following letters


>You *do* know a Taz....fuuny how you should connect Taz, Scotsmen and sheep
:)


Damn. I thought she`d shot the Scotsman and got a proper husband.
Oh well.... This Nom Secour for a reason or did he just fancy a
change from Hawker ?
And how come his addy is a u-net one now ?
And what happened to that crispy bacon I used to get when I was a kid ?

Steve
(Oh and fuuny is what I do best :-) )

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:47:52 +0100
Subject: Re: Stats.

Hello Bill :)

On 16-Apr-98, Bill Eaves wrote:

> Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings
tonight
> :-p

Well you've all got another day before they're posted, because I've
been working my ass off all week and can't be bothered running the
program tonight. ;)


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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:46:06 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: AF is killing the Amiga!!

Hello Norman :)

On 16-Apr-98, Norman Shearer wrote:
> Hi , on 16-Apr-98 15:37:10 you caught my attention with the
following prose:

>> Got AF today and next month it is giving away ANOTHER free game -
>> F1GP.

> Hmm.. I'd be tempted to get that issue - my copy is a real PITA
trying to
> get it to install to HD. But at the same time, I definately will not
be
> buying AF that month because IMV they are doing the Amiga community
a
> disservice..

Well I bought the PPaint issue and it was purely to get this version
of PPaint. I had been looking at buying it, but it seems much less
likely now that I'll buy PPaint 8 unless they've added something
really impresive to it.

AF is playing a very dangerous game. The deal that was hashed out not
to put full games on coverdisk all those years ago did actually have
a purpose to it.

>> I wouldn't mind if it was an old game which you cant get no more
>> or a game such as putty squad or pizza tycoon which was finished
but
>> never released, but NOT a game which at the moment is in the shops.

>> As a result less copies of UFO and F1GP will be sold which will
force
>> Amiga retailers out of business and encourage more shops to stop
>> selling amiga products.

> Exactly. I can only imagine AF is in serious trouble and is staving
off
> closure by any means possible. It would be sad to see AF go because
they do
> give the Amiga some well needed exposure - if only by the mag
sitting on a
> newsagent shelf.

Well AF's circulation is sliding, but I don't think its reached
cancelation point just yet. But I think that circulation worries must
be the reason for this not to mention the endless tedious snipes
about CU (A childish habit that CU has also been known to indulge in).

Hmm, isn't F1GP also a Microprose game?


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From: Alan R Barr
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:59:57 +0100
Subject: Jokes on the list

Hello Steve

On 17-Apr-98, Steve Haigh, Re: OT: S/ware probs :)) wrote:

> I have about 50 mails about computer software like Wife 1.0
> I get 2 jokes a day from a friend in the US.
> If this list gets quiet I`ll pop the odd one up here
> unless someone objects (more than 2 no`s mailed to
> me personally will be considered a veto)



And may I add a yes vote , I also receive them from a relation in
Canada , altho' some are a bit "blue" , Mm , they are all blue:-) .


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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:09:06 +0100
Subject: Re: BoXeR price announced! (fwd)

Hello Dave :)

On 17-Apr-98, Dave Fisher wrote:

> BoXeR looks like a non-starter :))

I'd suggest holding all judgements until you know exactly what's on
the motherboard. This isn't just an A1200 board.

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From: Bill Eaves
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:43:08 +0100
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?

Hello Paul

On 17-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:

> Aha..ok but I was talking about the modem really and this won't dial out
> without the tone


There is a Hayes command to disable the check for dial tone, I cannot be
arsed to look for it now so have a look in your modem manual for it ;-)



Bill.

From: Bill Eaves
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:32:43 +0100
Subject: Re: Stats.

Hello Paul

On 17-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:

>> Looks as if Paul Fergusson is going for the Stats for most postings tonight
>> :-p
>
> And tonight too :))))


He he, I noticed :-)
I had a good go last night but they were just replies, not the same :-(



Bill.

From: Bill Eaves
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:43:04 +0100
Subject: Re: OT: S/ware probs :))

On 16-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ( This isn't me BTW, I just found it in my work mailbox :)
>
> Subject: Incompatible software programs
>
> I'm currently running the latest version of GirlFriend and I've been
> having some problems lately.

He he, I saw that in Focus magazine a while back in the letters page, the
month
after they did a silly feature on Virtual Girlfriends.

Mind you they are getting too serious these days, not long ago their Computer
related sectioe was about the comeback of the Amiga :-)




Regards,

Bill.

From: Bill Eaves
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:27:57 +0100
Subject: Taz.

Hello Steve

On 17-Apr-98, Steve Haigh wrote:


> Taz ?.... nope.... don`t know a Taz


Perhaps Taz used to have a different name, like Hawker or something similar?


> Maybe it`s one of those mysteries that will never be solved
> Unlike the "Why do Scotsmen wear kilts ?" "Cos Scottish sheep
> can hear a zipper being pulled from miles away" :-)

He he, I like it being an Englishman living in Scotland :-)

Damn it, I have lived up here for too long as well, now I know why I can never

catch any of the buggers ;^)

The bottle of mint sauce just seems to scare them away :-(




Bill.

From: Quark
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:26:55 +0500
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

On the 17-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Paul Ferguson purred...


PF>/me wonders if Anders is on this ML ?

I tried the listserver but the "who" command is disabled :-(

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Date: 17 Apr 98 21:46:09 +0100
From: "Norman Shearer"
Subject: Re: AF is killing the Amiga!!

Hi Bill Eaves, on 17-Apr-98 12:23:17 you caught my attention with the following prose:

>> Exactly. I can only imagine AF is in serious trouble and is staving off
>> closure by any means possible...

> I got the mag yesterday and it was noticeably thinner than before. I don't
> like it when magazines get thin, Shopper did it then closed, AC did it then
> closed.

It's worrying when the market is so small that it can't support two mags.
Even if AF hadn't gone downhill (re: content etc) I suspect it would only
have taken some of CU's readership - thereby putting them in trouble.

> Is this really the end of AF ?

Looks that way. ;...(

When only one mag is left in the newsagents, it'll really bring home the
feeling that the end is nigh. In this country at least..

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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 18 Apr 98 01:13:54 +0100
Subject: Re: AF is killing the Amiga!!

> Hi Bill Eaves, on 17-Apr-98 12:23:17 you caught my attention with the following prose:
>
> >> Exactly. I can only imagine AF is in serious trouble and is staving off
> >> closure by any means possible...
>
> > I got the mag yesterday and it was noticeably thinner than before. I don't
> > like it when magazines get thin, Shopper did it then closed, AC did it then
> > closed.
>
> It's worrying when the market is so small that it can't support two mags.
> Even if AF hadn't gone downhill (re: content etc) I suspect it would only
> have taken some of CU's readership - thereby putting them in trouble.
>
> > Is this really the end of AF ?
>
> Looks that way. ;...(
>
> When only one mag is left in the newsagents, it'll really bring home the
> feeling that the end is nigh. In this country at least..
>
Don't be such pessamists(?). Buy the mags and all will be well. Don't
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From: Daryl Smith
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:08:17 -0000
Subject: Viper V

Hi Guys

Does anyone know whether a EDO Simm will work with a
Viper V?? I have the chance to buy a very cheap 32 meg
one but I am unsure as to whether it will work.

I know EDO work in Blizzards etc but I am not sure about
VIpers.

Cheers


Daryl

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From: "Paul Webb"
Date: 17 Apr 98 23:42:19 +0100
Subject: Re: BoXeR price announced! (fwd)

In reply to what Dave Fisher said about "BoXeR price announced! (fwd)"...

> Hi all.
>
> BoXeR looks like a non-starter :))
>
> ** Original Written By gary@empire.u-net.com, Forwarded By Dave **
> Hello folks,
>
> Blittersoft have just announced that the Index BoXeR motherboard will sell
> for £479.95 - that's for the bare board with no CPU.

Wow! thats a lot, I was expecting it to be a lot cheaper than that (I
hope that includes VAT).

> See http://www.blittersoft.co.uk for details.
>
> Blittersoft says Mick Tinker of Index will be at WOA so people can ask him
> about the BoXeR. I'd love to know how the hell he expects to sell any of
> them at this crazy price :-/

Maybe we'll see a price drop after the WOA, if Mr. Tinker can escape
with his life. ;)
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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 11:48:30 +0200
Subject: Who is Taz? was re:shapeshifter


> You *do* know a Taz....fuuny how you should connect Taz, Scotsmen and sheep :)
> Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! ;)


Damm have to change again LOL

Taz
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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 11:52:54 +0200
Subject: Re: Taz.

> Perhaps Taz used to have a different name, like Hawker or something similar?

Okay I will come clean......okay had the shower now, ah thats better LOL

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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 11:44:20 +0200
Subject: Re: u-net problems anyone?



> Hmm red faces @ U-Net Support then....serves 'em right.
> I know it's a bugger but at least you know that it's them not you.
> Small consolation but hopefully they'll get it sorted soon :)


Well I got a really helpful email from Neil B and since then things seem to
be going okay :-) lets hope now its the weekend it keeps up.

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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 11:45:56 +0200
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

> On 16-Apr-98, Bill Eaves wrote:
> > Well if it's any help. I have had 32Mb EDO in both Blizzard 1230/III and the
> > SCSI unit for the 1260 and it works fine in both ;-)
>
> Well there y'go....unfortunately I think Taz has another make of card ?

Sure do, I got a Apollo 030/40 EC if thats any help, mmm what does the EC
stand for anyone?

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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 09:36:27 +0200
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

Hi Baldrick,

> Ahh but thats in the 4000 we were talking about the 1200 accelerators.
> Anyway, thanks for the info, I'll bear it in mind if I'm ever lucky enough
> to get a 4k :))

Well I thought you might like to know that Mat Bettison at mat@mats.net is
selling off his computers including an A4000, seems he is off to work in
the USA. He also has some PC's so he might be worth asking if anyone is
looking for something. No idea of prices though.

Taz
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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 11:51:42 +0200
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

> Damn. I thought she`d shot the Scotsman and got a proper husband.
> Oh well.... This Nom Secour for a reason or did he just fancy a
> change from Hawker ?

Nah still have the Hawker@ address with FCI, its used mostly by KK and
emails from the family etc.

> And how come his addy is a u-net one now ?
I think Mulder + Scully are the only ones who can answer that :-)

> And what happened to that crispy bacon I used to get when I was a kid ?

You ate it all ;-)

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From: "Taz"
Date: 18 Apr 98 11:53:33 +0200
Subject: Re: Shapeshifter

>
> > Rachel ? I know a Rachel.
>
> So do I :-))
>
> > KK ? I know a KK too. In fact I know a Rachel called KK.
> > Hmmm.
> > Taz ?.... nope.... don`t know a Taz
> > Maybe it`s one of those mysteries that will never be solved
> > Unlike the "Why do Scotsmen wear kilts ?" "Cos Scottish sheep
> > can hear a zipper being pulled from miles away" :-)
> > Steve
>
> LOL yeh you see I am 2 people, I lead a double life you do know me as.....
>
> Taz
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>

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:17:47 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Shapeshifter

Hello Taz :)

On 18-Apr-98, Taz wrote:

> Sure do, I got a Apollo 030/40 EC if thats any help, mmm what does
the EC
> stand for anyone?

Usually it means economy. No MMU.


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From: Steve Haigh
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:29:32 -0000
Subject: Joke from Haighy

But first an apology to Ralph (cos I think I sent this one
just to him).... Sorry Ralph :-)

So here it is. As I said 2 no's is a veto, I'll try and
always use the same topic so you can filter them out
(or in) and I'll do short ones as well as long ones.
Oh and sometimes I get busy so don't expect one every
day :-)

Steve

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From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
Subject: Shapeshifter
Date: 18 Apr 1998 13:14:08

Taz, you have been found guilty of saying 'Shapeshifter'. What have you to say in your defence?

T> Sure do, I got a Apollo 030/40 EC if thats any help, mmm what does the
T> EC stand for anyone?

Basically, it means the CPU doesn't include a working MMU.

Simon Archer