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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 11:58:44 +0100
Subject: Re: AmFTP problem.

Hi Paul and Andre ;)

On 25-Apr-98, Paul Webb wrote:
> In reply to what andre clinchant said about "Re: AmFTP problem."...

>> I cannot find compression option in settings. I am running 1.75 by the way.

Andre: It's on the page that you pick your FTP site from. Y'know where your
profile list shows on the left....compression setting tick box is on the right
of the screen.

> I'm running version 1.85. I've been running it for so long now I
> forget where I got it. It must be up on Vapor's site,

Really ?? Hmm I thought I was up to date and according to mine it's
only V1.76...must go and have a look :)

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From: Dave James
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:44:30 +0000
Subject: Re[2]: Weekly stats

BaldrickBaldrickBaldrick :)

> Hmmm poor old Lumpy ;)

Hey!   I only sent one mail.   Therefore, as I see it anyway, lots
of people could have quoted more than me but because they've sent
more mails with less quoting, their percentage goes down.

So there :)   Although I could be wrong, I often am...

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Taglines temporarily shafted due to my stupidity.   Sorry.

From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:15:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

Hi Dave

On 26-Apr-98, Dave James wrote:

> BaldrickBaldrickBaldrick :)

LumpyLumpyLumpy :)

> Hey!   I only sent one mail.   Therefore, as I see it anyway, lots
> of people could have quoted more than me but because they've sent
> more mails with less quoting, their percentage goes down.

Well yes I s'pose that could be right but *someone* has to get the dreaded
Ego's Blue Text against them don't they ;)

> So there :)   Although I could be wrong, I often am...

You and me both mate. There, I've quoted almost all of this one.
Could be in with a chance myself now ;)

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From: Dave James
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:38:01 +0000
Subject: Re[2]: Weekly stats

Hello Paul

On 26-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson gasped:

Hmm, somehow you managed to reply about a minute before I wrote my
mail... very strange :-)

> *someone* has to get the dreaded Ego's Blue Text against them

Just typical that it'd be me...   I send one lousy stinking mail
and come tops in the quoting stats!   Well, never again!   I've
only quoted one line this time :-)

Dave

PS   Anyone know how to set up a .sig file and random taglines with
Mozilla, a friend wants to know and I haven't used it so I couldn't
help him.

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:03:56 +0100
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

Hi Dave

On 26-Apr-98, Dave James wrote:

> Hmm, somehow you managed to reply about a minute before I wrote my
> mail... very strange :-)

Am I good or what ?? :)

>> *someone* has to get the dreaded Ego's Blue Text against them

> Just typical that it'd be me...   I send one lousy stinking mail
> and come tops in the quoting stats!   Well, never again!   I've
> only quoted one line this time :-)

Hehe don't take it to heart mate. I'm on a couple of ML's that'd make Ego's
blue ink run out in a couple of days let alone a week !!

--snipped Mozilla question as I can't help-- :)

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From: Dave Fisher
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:46:01 +0100
Subject: Re: Boxer

Hi Paul,

On 26-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re: Boxer,

> I think the BoXeR has no CUP as standard, but it wall probably come
> with just about every model of CPU as options.

It doesn't have a CPU either :)) I think it can be used with 040/060 upto
75MHz selectable via jumpers. Ego will correct any mistake there ;)

> DIMM will cost you £116 from the same shop. DIMM memory is also
> faster, but I don't know by how much.

IIRC, DIMM is ~10ns, where as EDO is ~60ns.

> I would have liked to see emulation in the current setup. When the
> first Power Macs came out they had 60-66MHz 601s, they could only
> emulate a slow '040 Mac (if that). With the minimum spec of modern
> Amigas being 160MHz 603e, the kind of 68K performance might outperform
> even the fastest '060s, and if it can't then the quad 604s of the
> future sure would.

I don't think those figures are correct, although I'm in no situation to quote
alternatives. I'm sure that the 200MHz 604e find it hard to match the 060
under
emulation. I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read that in CU or on the mailing
lists.

Please Note! I won't see any replies as I've unsubscribed for a couple of
weeks.

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From: Dave Fisher
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:40:37 +0100
Subject: Re: AmFTP problem.

Hi Paul,

On 26-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re: AmFTP problem.,

> Really ?? Hmm I thought I was up to date and according to mine it's
> only V1.76...must go and have a look :)

The latest for registered users is V1.89a. It was available at
ftp://ftp.vapor.com for a while, but when something happened at Vapor it
vanished. It was in ftp://ftp.us.vapor.com last time I checked though.

And for what its worth, (cue plug) it lists the latest versions of some Amiga
netware on my website :))

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weeks.

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:26:09 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: HD? -> DH?

Hi Steve :)

On 26-Apr-98, Steve Bashforth wrote:
> On 24-Apr-98, you wrote:

» irritatingly partitioned with device names HD... and I like DH.

> Basically the easiest way round your problem, assuming you don't
want to
> mess about starting from scratch , i.e set up / Partition (RDB) etc,
is to
> just add an Assign to your startup-sequence or even User-Startup
(might be
> safer).

I'm a bit puzzled here.   What does it matter what names the physical
partitions are (mine were Sid, Bert & Fred last time I repartitioned)?

Just click on the icon and give it a convenient name there.

Its not like CDs where the volume name changes all the time. :)

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:28:00 +0100
Subject: Re[3]: Weekly stats

Hi Dave :)

On 26-Apr-98, Dave James wrote:
> BaldrickBaldrickBaldrick :)

>> Hmmm poor old Lumpy ;)

> Hey!   I only sent one mail.   Therefore, as I see it anyway, lots
> of people could have quoted more than me but because they've sent
> more mails with less quoting, their percentage goes down.

Ah, but the point isn't the exact amount they quoted, its a comparison
of the amount of quoting compared to the amount of new information
that they gave. ;)

Although anyone forwarding mails is going to come out with a really
terrible quote ratio. :))

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:36:09 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Boxer

Hi Dave :)

On 26-Apr-98, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On 26-Apr-98, You Wrote About The Subject Re: Boxer,
                              ^^^^

Grr, hate attributions that do that.   Put the guys name in! ;)

> It doesn't have a CPU either :)) I think it can be used with 040/060
upto
> 75MHz selectable via jumpers. Ego will correct any mistake there ;)

/me looks for some mistakes.

>> DIMM will cost you £116 from the same shop. DIMM memory is also
>> faster, but I don't know by how much.

> IIRC, DIMM is ~10ns, where as EDO is ~60ns.

Yes, but here's the catch.   SIMM is Single Inline Memory Module, DIMM
is /Dual/ Inline Memory Module.   They aren't directly compatible.   If
you used DIMMs you'd need to give the option to use SIMMs thus bumping
up the cost price of the motherboard.

Its a pretty safe bet that many people buying a BoXeR will have
various SIMMs lying about already.

>> I would have liked to see emulation in the current setup. When the
>> first Power Macs came out they had 60-66MHz 601s, they could only
>> emulate a slow '040 Mac (if that). With the minimum spec of modern
>> Amigas being 160MHz 603e, the kind of 68K performance might
outperform
>> even the fastest '060s, and if it can't then the quad 604s of the
>> future sure would.

> I don't think those figures are correct, although I'm in no
situation to quote
> alternatives. I'm sure that the 200MHz 604e find it hard to match
the 060
> under
> emulation. I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read that in CU or on the
mailing
> lists.

Depends on how you define emulation.   If we're talking about full
custom chip emulation like UAE then not a hope.   You'd probably get
the speed of a 68030 at most.

If however, you're talking about simply emulating the 680x0 itself
then you could certainly mathc the 060 for speed.   The BoXeR already
has the appropriate custom chips so that might be possible.

But there's a catch.   The custom chips and the OS rely on each other
working in a particular way.   Various speeds are effectively hard
coded into the OS.

Without a proper OS port you will never get the full speed out of the
AmigaOS.

> Please Note! I won't see any replies as I've unsubscribed for a
couple of
> weeks.

You will if you you read the digests. ;)

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From: "Taz"
Date: 27 Apr 98 17:47:32 +0200
Subject: Electricity


Hi all,

Off topic here, but interesting. I just recieved my yearly budget plan from
the Electric board, seems they OWE ME £314!!. Turns out that in the past
year we have only used the same amount of electric as a lightbulb :-)) So
the woman said when I phoned to ask for the refund. The interesting thing
is the meter reading that they took a week ago and the one I did now is
more than the years electricity. It will be interesting when the bloke
comes again on wednesday to take another reading, still I can always say
the Amiga is obviously the better computer since it uses so little
electricity :-))

Bet they say the meter is faulty, then the battle begins.....

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Date: 26 Apr 98 17:30:13 +0100
From: "Norman Shearer"
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

Hi Paul Ferguson, on 26-Apr-98 12:00:37 you caught my attention with the following prose:

>>Those of you highlighted in blue, hang your heads in
>> shame! ;)

Darn, missed the stats post! I got a pile of bad disk errors when I went
online yesterday and ended up having to run validatethor to sort my
messagebase out. It does this by flagging the offending mails (hundreds in
my case) for deletion.

This happened purely because I never turned the power on to my CDRW drive!
It seems that because I have a SCSI terminator on that (no choice it's the
last device) it needs power to function. Dunno why but I just assumed data
would flow up there and bounce back whether it was off or on. If that was
the only problem it's giving me I'd be happy. So far I've been unable to
get it to function as a writeable drive too. :-/

Flipping CDRW's getting on my nerves. It struggles with the awesome task of
playing an audio CD! Gets so far through it then cuts out - then back in,
then out etc. Very annoying when recording. I've tried about 8 different
CD Players (Opty_CDPlayer looks powerful) but they all do it so it's not
the players. The sound output is far louder and crisper than my internal
CD drive. Must be because with that I use an adaptor that goes into the
headphone socket, into the Prelude and from the Prelude to my hi-fi.

> Hmmm poor old Lumpy ;)



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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:07:33 +0100
From: Gavin Laws
Subject: Uae ;o)

hiyas all ;o) right ive just taken the plunge and installed uae on my pc
with baldricks help (cheers m8y) right i can get the boot up screen etc
and have workbench 3.1.1 on my hd but how the hell do i install it ? ;o)
in the instructions it says loads the adf,s but the install have of them
and i only have 4 drives. Can anyone lead me towards the right path here
? thanks in advance from gav
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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:15:50 +0100
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

Hi Norm,

On 26-Apr-98, Norman Shearer wrote:

> Darn, missed the stats post!

Well you didn't miss /that/ much mate...I came in a repectable 2nd...but was
pipped by Ego (IIRC) but the again that wouldn't surprise me as it's his prog
that generates the stats ;)

>I got a pile of bad disk errors when I went
> online yesterday and ended up having to run validatethor to sort my
> messagebase out. It does this by flagging the offending mails (hundreds in
> my case) for deletion.

Ouch !!


> This happened purely because I never turned the power on to my CDRW drive!
> It seems that because I have a SCSI terminator on that (no choice it's the
> last device) it needs power to function.

Hmm too techy for me mate sorry :(

> So far I've been unable too   get it to function as a writeable drive too.
:-/

Oh no !! Not *one* success story ?

> Flipping CDRW's getting on my nerves. It struggles with the awesome task of
> playing an audio CD! Gets so far through it then cuts out - then back in,
> then out etc.

I'm sure that /if/ there is a solution for this that someone far more techy
than me could help you out..erm is ^snoopy on this ML ??

>Very annoying when recording. I've tried about 8 different
> CD Players (Opty_CDPlayer looks powerful) but they all do it so it's not
> the players.

Nope it's not the players is it.....not with symptoms like that. Can you put
it anywhere else in the SCSI chain ? (just stabbing in the dark here
y'understand)

>The sound output is far louder and crisper than my internal
> CD drive. Must be because with that I use an adaptor that goes into the
> headphone socket, into the Prelude and from the Prelude to my hi-fi.

Yeah, I'd assume that a combo like that would result in better quality.

>> Hmmm poor old Lumpy ;)

>

LOL....*I* felt sorry for him...well for a short while anyway ;)

(loadsa quoting there...should stand a chance in the Blue Brigade this week ;)

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From: Quark
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:50:55 +0500
Subject: Re: HD? -> DH?

On the 26-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Steve Bashforth purred...
SB>Hello Quark

'ello :)

SB>Hello Quark

'ello again!

SB>On 24-Apr-98, you wrote:

SB>Basically the easiest way round your problem, assuming you don't want to
SB>mess about starting from scratch , i.e set up / Partition (RDB) etc, is to
SB>just add an Assign to your startup-sequence or even User-Startup (might be
SB>safer).

SB>eg

SB>           ASSIGN DH0: HD0:
SB>           ASSIGN DH1: HD1:

I took the plunge and renamed them using RDprep, no problem.   And at the
same time deleted a partition (I thought 4 was a bit excessive...)
thanks anyway.

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From: Quark
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:55:18 +0500
Subject: Re: Re[2]: HD? -> DH?

On the 27-Apr-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Eoghann Irving purred...

EI>I'm a bit puzzled here.   What does it matter what names the physical
EI>partitions are (mine were Sid, Bert & Fred last time I repartitioned)?

EI>Just click on the icon and give it a convenient name there.

I've found installation scripts that default to DH... I'm just making life
easier for myself.   Anyway I just changed them using the ancient but
perfectly servicable RDprep.

Byee....

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From: Ralph Twiss
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:45:52 +0100
Subject: Yam multi users

Hi,
      Has any one set Yam2 up for multiple users ?

I had set up 4 directories with a complete yam in each (one for each member of
the family)
I then updated my draw to Yam2 with no probs. untill I tried to do the same
with all the other draws .
The first set up allowed each person to collect there own mail only , now
collecting mail gets every ones mail to the draw that requests   the mail .
:-(

So I need to know if Yam2 can be set up as in the first set up ?


Ralph           ralpht@wavenet.co.uk

From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:33:24 +0100
Subject: Amiga Chatter Website

Hi :)

Just thought I'd let you know that The Amiga Chatter Website has been
accepted to be listed on AWD.   So we could see some new faces in here
shortly. :)

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:32:17 +0100
Subject: Re: Yam multi users

Hi Ralph :)

On 28-Apr-98, Ralph Twiss wrote:

>       Has any one set Yam2 up for multiple users ?

I haven't but it seems likely that Taz will have.

> I had set up 4 directories with a complete yam in each (one for each
member of
> the family)
> I then updated my draw to Yam2 with no probs. untill I tried to do
the same
> with all the other draws .
> The first set up allowed each person to collect there own mail only
, now
> collecting mail gets every ones mail to the draw that requests   the
mail .
> :-(

Okay, I /think/ the problem is that   YAM2 now has its own
multi-address
setup.   Which is different from the old approach of Multiple YAMs

The problem here is that it downloads everything from those addresses
and its up to you to set up filters to sort things out.

That seems to be how it works anyway.

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:39:52 +0100
Subject: Beta testers required

Hi :)

Well I've been talking about it for ages, but I finally found time to
write my "web page monitor".

Essentially what it does is check certain pages (specified by the
user) at regular intervals and if they have changed it downloads the
new version. It scans the HTML for local images and downloads them
too.   Finally it changes all HREF's to point to the correct server so
that you can follow all the links correctly.   Then it creates a list
of the updated pages in HTML and runs IBrowse to show them.

The program isn't complete yet.   Its an early beta.   There are
features missing and some probably don't work quite as they should.

So what I'm looking for is a few people who don't mind the occasional
crash who can point out the bugs and also suggest additional features.

It'll probably be a couple of days before I have a version to send to
you.   There are a few speicfic references to my system in the code at
the moment.

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:25:34 +0100
Subject: Re: Uae ;o)

Hi Gavin :)

On 27-Apr-98, Gavin Laws wrote:
> hiyas all ;o) right ive just taken the plunge and installed uae on
my pc
> with baldricks help (cheers m8y) right i can get the boot up screen
etc
> and have workbench 3.1.1 on my hd but how the hell do i install it ?
;o)

>Can anyone lead me towards the right path here? thanks in advance
from gav

Damn, where's my Universal Translator (TM, don't sue me please
Paramount! ;) when I need it? ;))

What happened to those little things like Capitals, and Line Feeds
Gav? ;)

So, you've got UAE on the machine, and you've got the ADF files for
WB3.1   Do you have the Kickstart ROM file?   You need that too.


> in the instructions it says loads the adf,s but the install have of
them
> and i only have 4 drives.

This is the bit I can't quite get my head around.   Is there a word
missing? :)

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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:18:58 +0100
Subject: My turn with a joke

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Hi :)

Thought I'd pass on this little joke sent to me by my sister. :)

-----Message d'origine-----
De: Claire Van Dongen
Date: jeudi 23 avril 1998 08:13
=B7: Ciorstan Mill Irving
Objet: TR: Honesty in Customer Service

A true story from the WordPerfect helpline. Needless to say the help =

=

desk employee was fired; however, he/she is currently suing the     =

WordPerfect organization for "Termination without Cause".

Actual dialog of a former Wordperfect Customer Support employee:

"Ridge Hall computer assistant; may I help you?"

"Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect."

"What sort of trouble?"

"Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went
away."

"Went away?"

"They disappeared."

"Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?"

"Nothing."

"Nothing?"

"It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type."

"Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?"

"How do I tell?"

"Can you see the C: prompt on the screen?"

"What's a sea-prompt?"

"Never mind. Can you move the cursor around on the screen?"

"There isn't any cursor: I told you, it won't accept anything I     =

type."

"Does your monitor have a power indicator?"

"What's a monitor?"

"It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does     =

it have a little light that tells you when it's on?"

"I don't know."

"Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the     =

power cord goes into it.   Can you see that?"

"Yes, I think so."

"Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged     =

into the wall."

"Yes, it is."

"When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were
two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?"

"No."

"Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the
other cable."

" Okay, here it is."

"Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the     =

back of your computer."

"I can't reach."

"Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?"

"No."

"Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?"

"Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle - it's because     =

it's dark."

"Dark?"

"Yes -the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming     =

in from the window."

"Well, turn on the office light then."

"I can't."

"No? Why not?"

"Because there's a power outage."

"A power... A power outage? Aha, Okay, we've got it licked now. Do     =

you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer   =


came in?"
>
"Well, yes, I keep them in the closet."

"Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just     =

like it   was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you
bought =

it from."

"Really? Is it that bad?"

"Yes, I'm afraid it is."

"Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?"

"Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer."


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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:55:46 +0100
From: Gavin Laws
Subject: Re: Uae ;o)

In article , Eoghann
Irving writes
>Hi Gavin :)
>Damn, where's my Universal Translator (TM, don't sue me please
>Paramount! ;) when I need it? ;))
Hiyas Ego well you what i am like on irc so you should have known i
would be the same at e-mail.
>What happened to those little things like Capitals, and Line Feeds
>Gav? ;)
Rofl who what ?
>So, you've got UAE on the machine, and you've got the ADF files for
>WB3.1   Do you have the Kickstart ROM file?   You need that too.
Yeppers ive got all of them on the hard drive in their own little dir.
>This is the bit I can't quite get my head around.   Is there a word
>missing? :)
>
Most likely. Hmm wonder what i did mean to say lets try again ;o)
/me switches on Universal translator English mode.

right when i run uae and load up my configs it gives you 4 floppy
drives. which you can load stuff in to. Well i load in the main
workbench ones like prefs etc but there isnt enough room for all the
workbench adf files. So how do i go about installing workbench ? ;o)


/me end Translator

from gav ;o)
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From: Ralph Twiss
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Yam multi users

On 28-Apr-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
> Hi Ralph :)
>
> On 28-Apr-98, Ralph Twiss wrote:
>
>>       Has any one set Yam2 up for multiple users ?
snip-->
>> The first set up allowed each person to collect there own mail only
> , now
>> collecting mail gets every ones mail to the draw that requests   the
> mail .
>

> Okay, I /think/ the problem is that   YAM2 now has its own
> multi-address
> setup.   Which is different from the old approach of Multiple YAMs
>
> The problem here is that it downloads everything from those addresses
> and its up to you to set up filters to sort things out.
>
> That seems to be how it works anyway.

Damm I had a feeling some one would say that
>
Ralph           ralpht@wavenet.co.uk

Date: 28 Apr 98 07:32:21 +0100
From: "Norman Shearer"
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

Hi Paul Ferguson, on 27-Apr-98 21:15:50 you caught my attention with the following prose:

>>I got a pile of bad disk errors when I went
>> online yesterday [snip]

> Ouch !!

There's more. :-)

Or rather. :-(

>> This happened purely because I never turned the power on to my CDRW drive!
>> It seems that because I have a SCSI terminator on that (no choice it's the
>> last device) it needs power to function.

> Hmm too techy for me mate sorry :(

S'okay Paul. I was just getting it off my chest!

>> So far I've been unable too   get it to function as a writeable drive too.
> :-/

> Oh no !! Not *one* success story ?

I only went as far as using MasterISO's test program - which fails to even
begin doing a /pretend/ write. Not sure why and I won't be able to
investigate further for a bit because the CDRW is going back today! The CD
drawer doesn't function anymore. :-( That'll be the 2nd CDRW I've sent back
now. WHY ME?!!

>>Very annoying when recording. I've tried about 8 different
>> CD Players (Opty_CDPlayer looks powerful) but they all do it so it's not
>> the players.

> Nope it's not the players is it.....not with symptoms like that. Can you put
> it anywhere else in the SCSI chain ? (just stabbing in the dark here
> y'understand)

Hmm..the only slot in my tower that's suitable is taken up by my internal
CD drive. The CDRW is an external device but I think it's easily converted
just by taking the outer casing out. That's a tempting option though when I
eventually upgrade my CD drive. At least then I could eliminate the SCSI
terminator as the problem..

Not a bad stab in the dark there Paul - cheers. :)

Regards
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From: andre clinchant
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:56:48 -0000
Subject: Re: My turn with a joke

On 28-Apr-98, Eoghann Irving wrote this tempting message...

EI >Thought I'd pass on this little joke sent to me by my sister. :)


EI >"Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?"

EI >"Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer."

Correction to last line-

"Tell them you're too stupid to own an Amiga."

I loved the sketch, whether it is true or not. The really sad thing is that I
have encountered people with this level of intelligence using PCs. No wonder
Mr gates does so well!!!

Andre

From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:00:21 +0100
Subject: HTMLInclude

Hi :)

You may recall the thread between me and Vader about HSC and the fact
it could do cool things but was kind of hard to understand.

Well one of the cool things it could do was allow you to insert other
files into your HTML pages.

Essentially that is what HTMLInclude does.

Its a small CLI program which   requires a source file and a
destination file.

The source file is an ordinary HTML file that contains extra lines
like:

<#INCLUDE DATE> or
<#INCLUDE header.txt>

HTMLInclude finds these lines and replaces them with the appropriate
text.i.e. the date in the first case and whatever happens to be in the
file header.txt in the second case.

Anyone want a copy?

--

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From: Ralph Twiss
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:13:29 +0100
Subject: Discounts on Super Amigas (fwd)

I hope this message is ok on the list , just I thought
it may be of interest to any one in the NW

Ralph Twiss



Hi,

Nigel French of NV Computers is coming to the User Group to give a
demonstration of Amiga
equipment this Sunday

He is going to bring as much hardware as he can and he will give a discount on
anything
that is ordered from him at the meeting. We are looking at a discount of
around 20% so
it may be worthwhile.

When he mailed me a while ago he was talking about PPC equipped Amigas with
64bit
graphics cards and God knows whatever else so it may be worth a look.

If you think of anyone who may be interested in showing up, drag them along
too :-)

Please mail me if you are interested but need any more info.

Simon.


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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:18:03 +0100
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

Hi Norman

On 28-Apr-98, Norman Shearer wrote:

>>> I got a pile of bad disk errors when I went
>>> online yesterday [snip]

>> Ouch !!

> There's more. :-)

> Or rather. :-(

Hmm this sounds serious :((

>> Hmm too techy for me mate sorry :(

> S'okay Paul. I was just getting it off my chest!

Ahh thats something I can understand ;)

> I only went as far as using MasterISO's test program - which fails to even
> begin doing a /pretend/ write. Not sure why and I won't be able to
> investigate further for a bit because the CDRW is going back today! The CD
> drawer doesn't function anymore. :-( That'll be the 2nd CDRW I've sent back
> now. WHY ME?!!

I hate to say this mate but are you sure that your system is up to writing
CD's ? I mean, thats one helluva game on high spec PC's or so I'm lead to
believe from the CD Writer list I joined for a while. Maybe the s/ware just
isn't quite right yet ?

> Hmm..the only slot in my tower that's suitable is taken up by my internal
> CD drive. The CDRW is an external device but I think it's easily converted
> just by taking the outer casing out.

Well I think that might be OK as thats how I got an external SCSI CDROM into
my Powerstation all those years ago :)

>That's a tempting option though when I
> eventually upgrade my CD drive. At least then I could eliminate the SCSI
> terminator as the problem..

Hopefully :)

> Not a bad stab in the dark there Paul - cheers. :)

Glad to see I could help you to smile a bit :)

Cheers,
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From: Eoghann Irving
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 12:02:14 +0100
Subject: Introducing HTMLValidate

Hi :)

I'm on a roll this week. ;)

I've just written a little program which scans a web page for links to
*other* web sites.   It then systematically checks each of these links
and stores the result in HTML, flagging each link as either UNCERTAIN,
MOVED, NOT FOUND, or PRESENT.   Took about 3 minutes to check
my link page (45 links) that way.

Anyone want a copy?

--

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From: Steve Haigh
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 17:50:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Weekly stats

On 25-Apr-98, Eoghann Irving carefully put 2 fingers to the keyboard and
picked out the following letters
>Hi :)

>Well here they are, the new improved (again!) stats.   Now with quoting
>statistics. Those of you highlighted in blue, hang your heads in
>shame! ;)

> Steve Haigh                       8         7.07%     # 52.17#

Does the %quoting figure derive from the number of words (letters)
of original vs the number of words of quote ? If so I'll have to make
my replies wordier ?

Steve (who has just returned from a course so this is late)

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From: Paul Ferguson
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:47:19 +0100
Subject: Re: Introducing HTMLValidate

Hi Ego

On 01-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
> Anyone want a copy?

Over here mate, on me 'ead son on me 'ead !! (please:)

Cheers :))
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From: Alan R Barr
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 21:44:08 +0100
Subject: Matchstick men

Hi all
Try a visit to :-
http://www.calvert.com/sfdt/fan-shows/12-17-97/hot_stuff.html

Although at the time I have sent this post the site is very slow.....
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From: "Paul Dixon"
Date: 2 May 98 00:24:24 +0100
Subject: Slow tonight

Hello all,
                    Is it slow tonight ?   Or has everybody gone on holiday ?
   







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