Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 14:25:19 -0000
Subject: Saturdays Joke from Haighy
Pretend you got this over the last 3 days in sections and then you
won't want to flame me for the size of it
Butcher Dance
A guy has spent five years traveling all around the world making a
documentary on Native dances. At the end of this time, he has every
single native dance of every indigenous culture in the world on film.
He winds up in Australia, in Alice Springs, so he pops into a pub
for a well earned beer.
He gets talking to one of the local Aborigines and tells him about his
project. The Aborigine asks the guy what he thought of the "Butcher Dance."
The guy's a bit confused and says "Butcher Dance? What's that?"
"What? You no see Butcher Dance?"
"No, I've never heard of it."
"Oh mate. You crazy. How you say you film every native dance if you
no see Butcher Dance?"
"UmmSUM. I got a corroborree on film just the other week. Is that
what you mean?"
"No, no, not corroborree. Butcher Dance much more important than
corroborree."
"Oh, well how can I see this Butcher Dance then?"
"Mate, Butcher Dance right out bush. Many days travel to go see
Butcher Dance."
"Look, I've been everywhere from the forests of the Amazon, to deepest
darkest Africa, to the frozen wastes of the Arctic filming these dances.
Nothing will prevent me from recording this one last dance."
"OK, mate. You drive north along highway towards Darwin. After you drive
197 miles, you see dirt track veer off to left. Follow dirt track for 126
miles 'til you see big huge dead gum tree - biggest tree you ever see. Here
you gotta leave car, coz much to rough for driving. You strike out due west
into setting sun. You walk 3 days 'til you hit creek. You follow this
creek to Northwest. After 2 days you find where creek flows out of rocky
mountains. Much too difficult to cross mountains here though. You now head
south for half day 'til you see pass through mountains. Pass very
difficult, very dangerous. Take 2, maybe 3 days to get through rocky pass.
When through, head north-west for 4 days 'til reach big huge rock - 20 ft
high and shaped like man's head. From rock, walk due west for 2 days and
you find village. Here you see Butcher Dance."
So the guy grabs his camera crew and equipment and heads out. After a
couple of hours he finds the dirt track. The track is in a shocking state
and he's forced to crawl along at a snails pace and so he doesn't reach the
tree until dusk and he's forced to set up camp for the night.
He sets out bright and early the following morning. His spirits are high
and he's excited about the prospect of capturing on film this mysterious
dance which he had never heard mention of before. True to the directions he
has been given, he reaches the creek after three days and follows it for
another two until they reach the rocky mountains.
The merciless sun is starting to take its toll by this time and his spirits
are starting to flag, but wearily he trudges on until he finds the pass
through the hills - nothing will prevent him from completing his life's
dream. The mountains prove to be every bit as treacherous as their guide
said and at times they almost despair of getting their bulky equipment
through. But after three and a half days of back breaking effort they
finally force their way clear and continue their long trek.
When they reach the huge rock, four days later, their water is running low
and their feet are covered with blisters but they steel themselves and head
out on the last leg of their journey. Two days later they virtually stagger
into the village where the natives feed them and and give them fresh water
and they begin to feel like new men. Once he's recovered enough, the guy
goes before the village chief and tells him that he has come to film their
Butcher Dance.
"Oh mate. Very bad you come today. Butcher Dance last night. You too late.
You miss dance."
"Well, when do you hold the next dance?"
"Not 'til next year."
"Well, I've come all this way. Couldn't you just hold an extra dance for
me, tonight?"
"No, no, no! Butcher Dance very holy. Only hold once a year. If hold more,
gods get very angry and destroy village! You want see Butcher Dance you
come back next year." The guy is devastated, but he has no other option but
to head back to civilization and back home.
The following year, he heads back to Australia and, determined not to miss
out again, sets out a week earlier than last time. He is quite willing to
spend a week in the village before the dance is performed in order to
ensure he is present to witness it.
However, right from the start things go wrong. Heavy rains that year have
turned the dirt track to mud and the car gets bogged every few miles,
finally forcing them to abandon their vehicles and slog through the mud on
foot almost half the distance to the tree. They reach the creek and the
mountains without any further hitch, but halfway through the ascent of the
mountain they are struck by a fierce storm which rages for several days,
during which they are forced to cling forlornly to the mountainside
until it subsides. It would be suicide to attempt to scale the treacherous
paths in the face of such savage elements.
Then, before they have traveled a mile out from the mountains, one of the
crew sprains his ankle badly which slows down the rest of their journey to
the rock and then the village enormously. Eventually, having lost all sense
of how long they have been travelling, they stagger into the village at
about 12:00 noon.
"The Butcher Dance!" gasps the guy. "Please don't tell me I'm too late!"
The chief recognizes him and says "No, white fella. Butcher Dance performed
tonight. You come just in time."
Relieved beyond measure, the crew spend the rest of the afternoon setting
up their equipment - preparing to capture the night's ritual on celluloid
As dusk falls, the natives start to cover there bodies in white paint and
adorn themselves in all manner of bird's feathers and animal skins. Once
darkness has settled fully over the land, the natives form a circle around
a huge roaring fire. A deathly hush descends over performers and
spectators alike as a wizened old figure with elaborate swirling designs
covering his entire body enters the circle and begins to chant. Some sort
of witch doctor or medicine man, figures the guy and he whispers to the
chief "What's he doing?"
"Hush" whispers the chief. "You first white man ever to see most sacred of
our rituals. Must remain silent. Holy man, he asks that the spirits of the
dreamworld watch as we demonstrate our devotion to them through our dance
and, if they like our dancing, will they be so gracious as to watch over us
and protect us for another year."
The chanting of the Holy man reaches a stunning crescendo before he removes
himself from the circle. From somewhere the rhythmic pounding of drums
booms out across the land and the natives begin to sway to the stirring
rhythm. The guy is becoming caught up in the fervour of the moment
himself. This is it. He now realizes beyond all doubt that his wait has
not been in vain. He is about to witness the ultimate performance of rhythm
and movement ever conceived by mankind.
The chief strides to his position in the circle and, in a big booming
voice, starts to sing: "You butch yer right arm in. You butch yer right arm
out. You butch yer right arm in and you shake it all about"
Of course you may want to flame me for the joke itself :-)
Steve (Who considers this the *best* joke in his collection)
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From: andre clinchant
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From: "Paul Webb"
From: Paul Ferguson
From: Paul Ferguson
From: Paul Ferguson
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: "Paul Dixon"
From: "Taz"
From: "Taz"
From: "Taz"
From: Ralph Twiss
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Ralph Twiss
From: "Taz"
From: Ralph Twiss
From: Howard Macartney
From: andre clinchant
From: "Paul Webb"
From: "Paul Webb"
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Quark
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From: Paul Ferguson
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From: andre clinchant
From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
From: Ralph Twiss
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Daryl Smith
From: john owen-jones
From: bml@thenet.co.uk (bml)
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From: andre clinchant
From: Paul Ferguson
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From: Ralph Twiss
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From: "Taz"
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From: Ralph Twiss
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Date: 15 May 98 21:28:22 +0000
From: Eoghann Irving
From: "Paul Webb"
From: Bill Eaves
From: "Taz"
From: "Paul Dixon"
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Eoghann Irving
From: Dobbin
From: Dobbin
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 11:34:50 +0100
Subject: Microdot
What has happened to Microdot development. I notice it still seems to be on
v0.198.
Andre[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: 10 May 98 11:02:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
In reply to what Paul Ferguson said about "Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?"...
> Agreed, my machine at work does not have these tendencies but then again my
> Amiga doesn't either and I ask some pretty wierd things of that from time to
> time. I don't think that I run anything 'out of the ordinary' on the PC (apart
> from emulators I s'pose) but as I said it's crashed whilst doing basically
> bugger all...not an emulator in sight and down it goes :((
I just love it when Windows crashes, you just have to look at it the
wrong way and down it goes. For example, every now and again I will
have a folder on the hard drive that crashes the OS. Just think about
that for a second, it's just a sub-directory, but it's enough to crash
Windows.
--
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orion@thenet.co.uk 030/50MHz, V.34 28.8k
www.thenet.co.uk/~orion/ 16Mb Fast, CD-Rom x 16
Top o Nerae! Gunbuster! Team *AMIGA*[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: 10 May 98 11:15:25 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
In reply to what Paul Ferguson said about "Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?"...
> The majority of calls they get are usually down to users not knowing the
> basics....( in a company like ours I find that unforgiveable BTW) In some
> cases we have found faults that the users didn't even know about or
> rather they accepted them as "It's a computer and computers do that,
> don't they?"
I hate it when people are like that. Would they be so quiet if their
cars refused to start up in the morning, or their TV sets turned off
half way through a great film and won't turn on again, or their
cookers kept burning their food? So why just sit back and take it when
their computers don't work, didn't they pay good money for them? Maybe
there should be a letter writing campaign, a mass complaint to a
watchdog TV program, give Micro$oft a good kick up the arse for
shoving their bad software down our throats.
--
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orion@thenet.co.uk 030/50MHz, V.34 28.8k
www.thenet.co.uk/~orion/ 16Mb Fast, CD-Rom x 16
Top o Nerae! Gunbuster! Team *AMIGA*[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: 10 May 98 10:54:31 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
In reply to what andre clinchant said about "Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?"...
> On 06-May-98, Paul Ferguson wrote this tempting message...
>
> PF >I have a P200MMX here and TBH it's not /that/ fast :(
>
> Well, it sure seemed fast to me compared to my trusty 50Mhz Miggy. perhaps you
> get used to it after time.
>
> I have heard of people reinstalling windows countless times. I have also heard
> of many people who have not needed to. MY machines at work have never had this
> problem. Again I feel it may be statistically occuring due to the large user
> base. Though I do not disagree about the causes usually being untraceable.
>
> I have reinstalled worknbench about 3 times over 5 years BTW.
At work I use a Pentium 166 MMX with 64Mb of ram and it doesn't feel
that much faster than my Amiga at all. I used to run a system monitor
that told me how much physical ram my machine had left and out of 64Mb
I would only have about 10-16Mb left after booting up, about the same
as my 18Mb Amiga. The only time I've had to reinstall Workbench is
when my harddrives die, I've gone through 3 in the past 4 or 5 years,
Windows on the other hand needed to be installed twice before it would
even start working, one of my work mates reinstalls Win95 every 3 or 4
weeks.
--
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www.thenet.co.uk/~orion/ 16Mb Fast, CD-Rom x 16
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 14:23:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
Hi Paul
On 10-May-98, Paul Webb wrote:
> I just love it when Windows crashes, you just have to look at it the
> wrong way and down it goes. For example, every now and again I will
> have a folder on the hard drive that crashes the OS. Just think about
> that for a second, it's just a sub-directory, but it's enough to crash
> Windows.
That don't surprise me one bit :(
I've never had so much hassle from any computer that I've worked or played on.
The scary thing about all this is it's the norm....makes you shudder doesn't
it !
Cheers,
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 14:43:08 +0100
Subject: Dead ? Monitor
Hi all,
I'm desperate for some help here people.....
I connected my lovely 17" Microvitec to my PC
( I know I know I shouldn't have done it !! sob)
and left it for about half and hour whilst I did summat else.
When I came back there was no picture and the Power Saving
indicator LED was flashing and the monitor was beeping
I've tried all kinds of things and I just can't get the picture back on PC or
Amiga. It's as if it's been programmed by the PC to go into Power Saving Mode
and it won't come out of it.
I'm running very close to the end of the waaranty
here....I've just found out that Gasteiner are still going so will 'phone them
tomorrow but in the mean time can anyone advise pleeeeeeezzzzeeeee ??
I'm having a hard time reading this as I've reverted to the old 14" Microvitec
Man you just don't know how lucky you are until you have to go
back to old kit.
Cheers,
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 14:25:32 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
Hi Paul
On 10-May-98, Paul Webb wrote:
> I hate it when people are like that. Would they be so quiet if their
> cars refused to start up in the morning, or their TV sets turned off
> half way through a great film and won't turn on again, or their
> cookers kept burning their food? So why just sit back and take it when
> their computers don't work, didn't they pay good money for them? Maybe
> there should be a letter writing campaign, a mass complaint to a
> watchdog TV program, give Micro$oft a good kick up the arse for
> shoving their bad software down our throats.
There ought to be some way of redressing these issues I agree but it seems to
have been going on for so long that it's just accepted.
I think the situation sux but TBH I've not yet found anyone who hasn't been
forced to accept the situation 'cos there's no-one who can tell them how to
correct all the faults they have encountered.
Cheers,
--
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:12:53 +0100
Subject: Re: Microdot
Hi andre clinchant :)
On 10-May-98, andre clinchant wrote:
> What has happened to Microdot development. I notice it still seems
to be on
> v0.198.
I think this is simply a case of Olli over-reaching himself. He was
concentrating on getting V-NG done. There is a note on the web site
that a V1 of MD-II is on its way.
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:19:45 +0100
Subject: NextStep
Hi :)
Someone asked me about NextStep, but I accidentaly deleted all last
weeks mails without answering.
NextStep is the OS which ran on the "Next" range of computers created
by Steve Jobs when he left Apple.
Essentially is is a UNIX OS with a sophisticated GUI grafted on top of
it, making a difficult OS much easier to use.
NextStep has a number of things in common with AmigaOS including the
fact that it origianly ran on a 68030 machine and boasts low resources
and smooth multi-tasking.
It was a commercial failure though.
A while back Apple bought out Next, and (more importantly NextStep).
This brought Jobs back into the Apple fold which seems to have been
money well spent judging by the current share price.
NextStep is being merged with the Mac System 7/8 to created the long
awaited new OS Rhapsody.
Its basically one of those things which has been hugely influential
without ever becoming known to the general public.
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Date: 10 May 98 12:50:30 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system
Hi all,
I would just like to say, if Al is to be belived he has got
both or so it seems from his press releases he has been giving out.
We will know next week. At the W.O.A. show. Hopefully he will have
some thing to show us.
--
Norwich City FC forever
The "AMIGA" lives on
pauldix@valerie.u-net.com[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: 10 May 98 18:32:31 +0200
Subject: DF0: accessing
Hi all,
my DF0: drive has started trying accessing its self every so often, and at
times it comes up on the WB screen with DF0:????? when there isn't even a
disk in there. Is it on its way out?
Taz
PS: it reads disks okay
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Date: 10 May 98 18:36:30 +0200
Subject: MICQ
Hi all,
Anyone tried that un-official shell based Amiga version of ICQ? You need
someone with a PC to set the account up for you, but it does mean that if
you have friends who use PC's you can be notified if they are online else
where.
Its far from being like the official PC version, but it does work.
Taz
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Date: 10 May 98 18:21:24 +0200
Subject: Re: Microdot
> I think this is simply a case of Olli over-reaching himself. He was
> concentrating on getting V-NG done. There is a note on the web site
> that a V1 of MD-II is on its way.
Recently on the mailinglist (MD-II) the beta testers have said it will not
be long till the new version arrives, cant wait.
Taz
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:57:21 +0100
Hi all,
Does any one have , or can point me towards a sample of html script
that will allow some one to click on a button and down load a doc/pic that is
not on view ?
Ralph ralpht@wavenet.co.uk[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:03:51 +0100
Hi Ralph Twiss :)
On 10-May-98, Ralph Twiss wrote:
> Does any one have , or can point me towards a sample of html
script
> that will allow some one to click on a button and down load a
doc/pic that is
> not on view ?
Do you mean an ordinary HTML link or an actual button?
If its an actual button you'd either need to use CGI or JavaScript.
Otherwise
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:01:53 +0100
Subject: Re: MICQ
Hi Taz :)
On 10-May-98, Taz wrote:
> Anyone tried that un-official shell based Amiga version of ICQ? You
need
> someone with a PC to set the account up for you, but it does mean
that if
> you have friends who use PC's you can be notified if they are online
else
> where.
Thats the first I've heard of it actually. Where can you get it from?
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:26:55 +0100
Hello Eoghann
On 10-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
> Hi Ralph Twiss :)
>
> On 10-May-98, Ralph Twiss wrote:
> snip-->
> Do you mean an ordinary HTML link or an actual button?
>
> If its an actual button you'd either need to use CGI or JavaScript.
>
> Otherwise
>
>
I am trying to set up a button that when clicked will down load a map pic ,
but I dont want to see the map on the pages . If it is a cgi script do I need
to ask my provider about it ?
Ralph[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: 11 May 98 17:04:00 +0200
Subject: Lost mail
Hi all,
I downloaded my mail this morning and there was 3 mails in Chatter, but
when I opened the directory in MD-II for Chatter it crashed. The only way
round it was to actually delete the 3 mails. What I miss?
The only time this has ever happened before was when I got a huge mail
(spam) in a newsgroup, but I could actually access the directory to delete
the offending mail.
Taz
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:35:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Lost mail
Hello Taz
On 11-May-98, Taz wrote:
>
> snip-->
The only way
> round it was to actually delete the 3 mails. What I miss?
>
i don't know it has been quiet on the list today I think yours was the firs
one
Ralph[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:23:37 +0000
Subject: Re: DF0: accessing
Hello Taz
On 10-May-98, Taz wrote:
-> my DF0: drive has started trying accessing its self every so often, and at
-> times it comes up on the WB screen with DF0:????? when there isn't even a
-> disk in there.
My old A500+ had this problem and was due to the internal chips slowley
burning out
due to age. There may be other reasons.
Regards
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:44:22 +0100
Subject: Re: Lost mail
On 11-May-98, Ralph Twiss wrote this tempting message...
RT >i don't know it has been quiet on the list today I think yours was the
firs
RT >one
i have a suspicion that the list went pear-shaped. I am sure some of my
thread postings have not sen the light of day. Perhaps someone was trying to
eliminate any PC-related e-mails.
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Date: 11 May 98 13:05:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
In reply to what Paul Ferguson said about "Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?"...
> Hi Paul
>
> On 10-May-98, Paul Webb wrote:
> I've never had so much hassle from any computer that I've worked or played on.
> The scary thing about all this is it's the norm....makes you shudder doesn't
> it !
I have used a worse machine than a Win95 box, a Win3.1 machine.
Actually, a whole network of them, hundreds of them :(.
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Date: 11 May 98 13:14:04 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?[RETURN TO TOP]
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:51:27 +0100
Subject: Updated site
Hi :)
Just to let you know I've updated the news page on the Amiga Chatter
web site. Nothing earthshattering (or I would post it here), but some
interesting stuff never the less.
I've also signed up for the Amiga News Feed (more details about that
on the site) which means I should be able to keep the news page up to
date and brimming with news. :)
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:44:23 +0100
Hi Ralph Twiss :)
On 10-May-98, Ralph Twiss wrote:
> On 10-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
> I am trying to set up a button that when clicked will down load a
map pic ,
> but I dont want to see the map on the pages . If it is a cgi script
do I need
> to ask my provider about it ?
Well you'd either have to use JavaScript which cuts out a lot of
browsers, or CGI in which case you wouldneed to speak to your
provider. Very often providers only give CGI-bin access to
"commercial" customers.
Or you could just tell them to Shift Click. ;)
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:48:17 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: DF0: accessing
Hi Howard Macartney :)
On 11-May-98, Howard Macartney wrote:
> On 10-May-98, Taz wrote:
> -> my DF0: drive has started trying accessing its self every so
often, and at
> -> times it comes up on the WB screen with DF0:????? when there
isn't even a
> -> disk in there.
> My old A500+ had this problem and was due to the internal chips
slowley
> burning out
> due to age. There may be other reasons.
The only other thing I've thought of that would cause random atttempts
to access a disk would be a virus. Not a nice thought, but that would
be fixable at least.
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:47:18 +0100
Subject: Re: Lost mail
Hi Taz :)
On 11-May-98, Taz wrote:
> I downloaded my mail this morning and there was 3 mails in Chatter,
but
> when I opened the directory in MD-II for Chatter it crashed. The
only way
> round it was to actually delete the 3 mails. What I miss?
Well there were only 4 posts since your last mail appeared on the
list.
One was my asking you for more details about this Amiga ICQ port which
I hadn't heard of before.
The other three were a thread between me and Ralph Twiss about CGI-bin
and JavaScript.
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:49:35 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Lost mail
Hi andre clinchant :)
On 11-May-98, andre clinchant wrote:
> On 11-May-98, Ralph Twiss wrote this tempting message...
> i have a suspicion that the list went pear-shaped. I am sure some
of my
> thread postings have not sen the light of day. Perhaps someone was
trying to
> eliminate any PC-related e-mails.
Well I haven't seen any mails from you since I posted the Weekly Stats
on Saturday (at which point I clear out my folder), so if you've sent
some since then they have been going walkies.
Otherwise I suppose you could check the list digest to see if the
posts match up with what you sent.
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:15:29 +0500
Subject: Re: DF0: accessing
On the 11-May-98, the warm, pink, moist and fluffy Howard Macartney purred...
HM>Hello Taz
HM>On 10-May-98, Taz wrote:
HM>-> my DF0: drive has started trying accessing its self every so often, and
at
HM>-> times it comes up on the WB screen with DF0:????? when there isn't even
a
HM>-> disk in there.
HM>My old A500+ had this problem and was due to the internal chips slowley
HM>burning out
HM>due to age. There may be other reasons.
Umm... I'm no expert but ICs tend to either work, or not. They just stop.
Some ICs may have moved around in their sockets (something reported in the
mags I seem to recall). Whip the lid off and give socketed ICs a shove.
HM>Regards
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Date: 12 May 98 16:35:18 +0200
Subject: MICQ
Hi Ego,
> One was my asking you for more details about this Amiga ICQ port which
> I hadn't heard of before.
Well I have tried it out, its shell based at the moment, but does work. I
don't know anything about who did it, and there are no docs.
You do need someone with a PC to set up your account. I doubt
its got any official sanction, but it proves it can be done. Just wonder if
anyone will write a GUI for it, or will they now make an official version
so you can set it up etc using the Amiga.
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Date: 12 May 98 16:37:21 +0200
Subject: Re: DF0: accessing
> The only other thing I've thought of that would cause random atttempts
> to access a disk would be a virus. Not a nice thought, but that would
> be fixable at least.
I have just re-scanned my HD just to check, no sign of a virus anywhere.
Funnily enough or not, it hasn't done it since I sent that mail ?
Taz
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:38:05 +0100
Subject: Re: MICQ
Hi Taz
On 10-May-98, Taz wrote:
> Anyone tried that un-official shell based Amiga version of ICQ?
Well mate thanks to you I think I'm hooked...I make sure it's fired up as soon
as I go online now :)
> Its far from being like the official PC version, but it does work.
Yup, like I said on IRC the other night, we need someone (Ego??) to write a
nice front end for it now :))
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:36:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
Hi Paul
On 11-May-98, Paul Webb wrote:
> I have used a worse machine than a Win95 box, a Win3.1 machine.
> Actually, a whole network of them, hundreds of them :(.
Oh yeah....I know the feeling....I have to run a miniscule network
(compared to yours ;) and thats 7 DOS only boxes that are
supposed to talk to an eigth DOS only box (the Master) which in
turn should talk to a Novell server or and NT box.....fun fun fun....not
And they expect me to generate meanigful data from this shambles ??
Oh and not to mention the imminent Y2K issues ;)
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:42:08 +0100
Subject: Amiga Chatter web page
Hi :)
Just thought I'd let you know that I've updated the news page again
with (amongst other things) the date on which the Amiga Inc website
will be open for business.
Keep an eye on the web site for all the latest news. :)
Of course, those of you beta-testing PushPull for me can have the page
ready for them to read when they come offline....
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Date: 12 May 98 21:39:07 +0100
Subject: Re: MICQ
> Well mate thanks to you I think I'm hooked...I make sure it's fired up as soon
> as I go online now :)
Where can I get MICQ from?
> Yup, like I said on IRC the other night, we need someone (Ego??) to write a
> nice front end for it now :))
Yeah, It would make it a lot better as long as its a MUI frontend
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Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 17:08:38 -0000
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
On 07-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote this tempting message...
EI >> But I
EI >still insist
EI >> that there is a statistical blurring invovled to. A happy user tends
EI >to be a
EI >> quiet user. An unhappy user tends to be loud. Hence the pages of
EI >"Backchat" or
EI >> "Workbench" or any similar PC Press letter page. Hence, given the
EI >far larger
EI >> user base of PC uers there are more grumbling voices.
EI >It seems to me your argument is flawed. Since magazines tend to print
EI >a "representative sample" on letters pages rather than all the
EI >negative letters.
'fraid I am not convinced about your "representative sample." I used to work
in the market research field and happy users are quiet users. I read a lot of
the popular end of the PC press and it does not look very represenative. I
will remain with my arguement of A DEGREE of statistical blurring.
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Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 17:04:16 -0000
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
On 07-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote this tempting message...
EI >Yes they are consumers, to our hobbyists, but that would suggest that
EI >they are making less of a fuss about PCs than they should be.
Perhaps they make a fuss but corporate Microsoft do not need to listen too
hard. Or could we really historic and blame the basic architecture?
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:56:15 +0100
Subject: Cheaep Amigas
This is honestly true.
Adverts in local Admart
For sale amiga 1200 - £80
Then a few lines latter
For sale Amstrad cpc464 £50
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Subject: MICQ
Date: 13 May 1998 14:21:08
Taz, you have been found guilty of saying 'MICQ'. What have you to say in your defence?
T> you have friends who use PC's you can be notified if they are online
T> else where.
Hmmm, I have a script that fingers my favorites when I connect, so i guess I've been
doing ICQ for a year or so now :)
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Subject: DF0: accessing
Date: 13 May 1998 14:19:58
Taz, you have been found guilty of saying 'DF0: accessing'. What have you to say in your defence?
T> PS: it reads disks okay
It' doesn't have to mean it's on it's way out. I' used to have this problem with my
old A2k. After much digging, I found that the power cable was dogy on the rear of
the drive. Wiggling the socket around cured the problem. So I resoldered the power
socket and presto! it cured it.
Alternatively, it could be buggered! :)
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:18:10 +0100
Subject: Re: Cheaep Amigas
Hello andre
On 13-May-98, andre clinchant wrote:
snip-->
>
> For sale amiga 1200 - £80
>
> Then a few lines latter
snip-->
if that was for a basic A1200 then it was expensive .......the going rate is
about £40/50
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:11:44 +0100
Subject: Re: MICQ
Hi bml :)
On 13-May-98, bml wrote:
> Hmmm, I have a script that fingers my favorites when I connect, so i
guess I've been doing ICQ for a year or so now :)
Full ICQ can do an awful lot more than finger can. :)
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:13:34 +0100
Subject: The tension mounts
Hi :)
Well are you all getting excited about the forthcoming WOA
announcements yet?
If you aren't then maybe the article that appeared in this weeks
Computer Trade Weekly will do the trick.
If you haven't see it on AWD its also on the Amiga Chatter news page
now. :)
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:10:12 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: MICQ
Hi Paul Ferguson :)
On 12-May-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> On 10-May-98, Taz wrote:
>> Its far from being like the official PC version, but it does work.
> Yup, like I said on IRC the other night, we need someone (Ego??) to
write a
> nice front end for it now :))
Seeing as its an illegal port of software from an American company
with lawyers, I'd rather not thanks. ;-))
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:53:45 -0000
Subject: Opera
Hi guys
I have just read on amiga.org, that Opera is to be officially
ported to the Amiga. Good or bad news ..........:-/
I like Opera and use it on my PC but what about other browser
development??
Also, the port of ICQ has been stopped but does anyone
know where I can download the shell version from???
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:34:28 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Weekly stats
On 27-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
>> This happened purely because I never turned the power on to my CDRW drive!
>> It seems that because I have a SCSI terminator on that (no choice it's the
>> last device) it needs power to function.
sounds about right guess you could move it elsewhere in the chain generally
the controller
gets one end . something has to get terminated at the end a hd maybe i
doubt you can have
your writer connected without it being powered up thou.
>> So far I've been unable too get it to function as a writeable drive too.
I guess your gonna have to route throu the aminet see who's writing drivers
and
politely mail them if they haven't written for your writer you could offer
your
services as a beta test pilot ;)
>> Flipping CDRW's getting on my nerves. It struggles with the awesome task of
>> playing an audio CD! Gets so far through it then cuts out - then back in,
>> then out etc.
hmm well that sounds like your bringing audio directly across the scsi bus
the easiest would be to check the back of your drive and see if theres an
audio out and send that out to your amp ect.
other than that you might be able to play around a little and raise the
priority
of the drive / audio drive.
best i can suggest atm
> I'm sure that /if/ there is a solution for this that someone far more techy
> than me could help you out..erm is ^snoopy on this ML ??
yep i just don't get to keep up as much as i'd like too much work during
the week tomany parties at the weekend I guess :)
>> Very annoying when recording. I've tried about 8 different
>> CD Players (Opty_CDPlayer looks powerful) but they all do it so it's not
>> the players.
> [Baldrick] (who's off to Glasgow in the morning....work
unfortunately...sigh)
snoopy who just got back from huddersfield earlier tonight.
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Subject: MICQ
Date: 13 May 1998 21:57:08
Eoghann Irving, you have been found guilty of saying 'MICQ'. What have you to say in your defence?
EI> Full ICQ can do an awful lot more than finger can. :)
OK, so now you've got me interested. Anyone care to send me a version of the Amiga port?
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:44:16 +0100
Subject: Re: Opera
Hi Daryl Smith :)
On 13-May-98, Daryl Smith wrote:
> I have just read on amiga.org, that Opera is to be officially
> ported to the Amiga. Good or bad news ..........:-/
I'd say good because Opera is a well regarded browser with a growing
following on the PC. Its also set to be a multiplatform browser with
UNIX and Mac version too if I remember rightly.
> I like Opera and use it on my PC but what about other browser
> development??
What development? Finale is months late, the other three each have
*one* person working on them.
I don't see why we should suppport inferior software simply because
the developer only works on Amigas.
> Also, the port of ICQ has been stopped but does anyone
> know where I can download the shell version from???
Its worth stressing (due to threats of legal action) that this port is
*not* connected to the recent attempt to get a legal version of ICQ on
the Amiga.
That attempt was basically scuppered when someone got impatient and
started a mass email campaign. Mail bombing is a remarkably poor way
of persuading companies to do things. :)
That said, where can I find it too? ;)
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:19:49 +0100
Subject: Re: world news release 1.0 (fwd)
Here is the latest on World News. I have a working version now.
*** Forwarded message, originally written by Danny Y. Wong on 14-May-98 ***
On Wed, 13 May 1998 12:58:17 +0100 you wrote to me about Re: world news
release
1.0
> New programme works. I shall test drive it for a while against FFnews. I
hear
> a rumour that Microdot will have a new version released soon.
Well, we not worry about that. If you have looked at Air Mail Pro v3.0 you
see that Air mail Pro is way ahead of the competition.
> Questions - what development plans do you have.
alot of new features are coming in the next release. We are in middle of
getting everything together for the IA 98 in toronto end of this month.
we are also looking into PPC development.
> Can you do off-line reading?
You bet. Just select the articles from the header then mark it. once
marked then select the folder to file it into a folder. You must create
a folder first.
once filed you can open the folder while offline to read/reply.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:38:58 +0100
Subject: Re: Weekly stats
Hi john
On 12-May-98, john owen-jones wrote:
> On 27-Apr-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
no I didn't mate... think this is meant for Norm ??
>> [Baldrick] (who's off to Glasgow in the morning....work
> unfortunately...sigh)
> snoopy who just got back from huddersfield earlier tonight.
LOL...it was good to see you on IRC mate you should pop in
more often :)
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:44:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Opera
On 14-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
>I'd say good because Opera is a well regarded browser with a growing
>following on the PC. Its also set to be a multiplatform browser with
>UNIX and Mac version too if I remember rightly.
Anything has to be better than IE IMHO.
>> I like Opera and use it on my PC but what about other browser
>> development??
>What development? Finale is months late, the other three each have
>*one* person working on them.
Yeah that may well be but at least we do get updates although very
occassionally. At least they are *still* supported unlike most other
amiga sw.
I have almost given up hope on Finales web cruiser (or
whatever) I remember seeing a beta version at WOA last year!!
>I don't see why we should suppport inferior software simply because
>the developer only works on Amigas.
Jumping the gun a bit here. Lets wait to see Opera first. It may well be
good on the PC but the Amiga version is a different matter.
>> Also, the port of ICQ has been stopped but does anyone
>> know where I can download the shell version from???
>Its worth stressing (due to threats of legal action) that this port is
>*not* connected to the recent attempt to get a legal version of ICQ on
>the Amiga.
And now it looks as though there is not going to be a legal version
either :-((
>That attempt was basically scuppered when someone got impatient and
>started a mass email campaign. Mail bombing is a remarkably poor way
>of persuading companies to do things. :)
I can imagine. Still did this method work for Opera or was the campaign a
bit more orgainsed??
>That said, where can I find it too? ;)
LOL :-)) Yeah I wouldn't mind a quick look either.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:56:53 +0100
Subject: Fonts
Hi,
does any one know of a outline font for Wordworth that is a proportional
one ?
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Subject: Fonts
Date: 14 May 1998 23:12:38
Ralph Twiss, you have been found guilty of saying 'Fonts'. What have you to say in your defence?
RT> does any one know of a outline font for Wordworth that is a
RT> proportional one ?
Can't Wordsworth use compugraphic fonts then?
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Date: 12 May 98 23:16:27 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
In reply to what Paul Ferguson said about "Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?"...
> Oh yeah....I know the feeling....I have to run a miniscule network
> (compared to yours ;)
I don't have to put up with that network anymore (thank god). That was
when I was working at Cardiff University, that would be about 2 or 3
years ago (I'm still just getting over it). But they did have a lot of
other, nicer machines to play with. A large network of Macs, large
looking Sun machines (I wasn't alowed to play with them), and two
Silicon Graphics Indigos, that were used to take 3D pictures of
microbes and stuff.
> and thats 7 DOS only boxes that are
> supposed to talk to an eigth DOS only box (the Master) which in
> turn should talk to a Novell server or and NT box.....fun fun fun....not
Well, best of luck, it sounds like you'll need it.
> And they expect me to generate meanigful data from this shambles ??
> Oh and not to mention the imminent Y2K issues ;)
I'm looking forward to all that, should be good for a laugh.
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Date: 14 May 98 21:37:34 +0200
Subject: PC question
Status: U
Hi all,
Just wondering whats the lowest spec PC that I could get away with for
Internet use. Taking into account that it would need to be able to run
RealAudio, and a good browser. It isnt for games, but needs to also run a
good word processor.
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Date: 14 May 98 21:34:10 +0200
Subject: ICQ Again :-)
Status: U
Hi all,
Well a few people seem interested in this un-official port. If anyone wants
a copy, small exe file, then email me privately and I will send it on.
If I send you it, dont blame me if anything happens to your HD, it works
fine for me. I haven't a clue who actually did this little program. Its
defiantly not as fancy as the real thing, its shell based, all the commands
are done through that, and some don't work, like the chat option, seems
according to someone else on a PC it says that its an early version of ICQ,
so they couldn't use the chat option to me.
Still once you have your friends listed at least you can tell if they are
online or not, and when they do come online, accross platforms etc.
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:36:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Fonts
Status: U
Hello bml
On 15-May-98, bml wrote:
> Ralph Twiss, you have been found guilty of saying 'Fonts'. What have you to
say in your defence?
>
>> does any one know of a outline font for Wordworth that is a
>> proportional one ?
>
> Can't Wordsworth use compugraphic fonts then?
>
> Simon Archer
Are you a politican ??????????? cos you answered my question with a question
your answer was very helpfull in sorting my problems out
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:49:18 +0100
Subject: Re: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
Hi Paul
On 12-May-98, Paul Webb wrote:
> I don't have to put up with that network anymore (thank god). That was
> when I was working at Cardiff University, that would be about 2 or 3
> years ago (I'm still just getting over it). But they did have a lot of
> other, nicer machines to play with. A large network of Macs, large
> looking Sun machines (I wasn't alowed to play with them), and two
> Silicon Graphics Indigos, that were used to take 3D pictures of
> microbes and stuff.
Hehe well I'm attempting to move on a bit...same company different
job. Despite all the hassle I'm getting from 'my' network I'm trying to get
into the Comms/PC support/Networking department.
So, instead of getting hassle from those 10 or so machines I'd be getting
hassle from...oh....400 or so ...I must be a masochist ;)
>> and thats 7 DOS only boxes that are
>> supposed to talk to an eigth DOS only box (the Master) which in
>> turn should talk to a Novell server or and NT box.....fun fun fun....not
> Well, best of luck, it sounds like you'll need it.
I do mate I do :)
>> And they expect me to generate meanigful data from this shambles ??
>> Oh and not to mention the imminent Y2K issues ;)
> I'm looking forward to all that, should be good for a laugh.
NOT !!
I've just been informed that starting Monday I'm going round 'tagging'
equipment thats possibly going to fail. In a factory this size thats no
joke :(
No more hidning in the office for me..oh well it was good while it lasted :)
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:25:55 +0100
Subject: The news has hit!
Hi :)
Well guys its in and its big. :)
http://www.amigainc.com
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From: "Sandy Gudgeon"
Subject: Re: PC question
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On 14-May-98 19:37:34, Taz said about PC question:
> Just wondering whats the lowest spec PC that I could get away with for
> Internet use. Taking into account that it would need to be able to run
> RealAudio, and a good browser. It isnt for games, but needs to also run a
> good word processor.
The entry level machine is heading towards a P200/P233. As always the prices
are dropping all the time.
You don't really need a P200 for net access, but it would not be worth buying
anything less.
I find my A4000/030 is almost as fast as the P200 I have when comparing IE4 &
V2.95 !!
Sandy
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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 16:10:52 +0100
Subject: WOA news
Hi :)
The best place to get a handle on whats going on is
http://www.primenet.com/~jweb/woa98news.html
Lots of good stuff there.
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Date: 16 May 98 16:31:39 +0100
Subject: Re: PC question
In reply to what Taz said about "PC question"...
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering whats the lowest spec PC that I could get away with for
> Internet use. Taking into account that it would need to be able to run
> RealAudio, and a good browser. It isnt for games, but needs to also run a
> good word processor.
Well you should be looking at a P166MMX minimum, but you might find it
hard to find a lot of thses about, most shops will have P233s(it
won't be long before the minimum spec is a PII233). This power isn't
really needed to run wordprocessors or web browsers but the OS. The
choice of gfx card will also make all the difference to a PC. A cheap
£20 job will hold any machine you buy back, go for a Matrox
Mystique card, they're very good and would suit the kind of spec you
seem to be looking for.
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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 23:24:21 +0100
Subject: Another Joke.
Hi,
Bill Clinton, Bill Gates and Al Gore perish in an airplane crash, and
arrive in heaven to find God on his throne.
When God asks Gore what he believes in, Gore answers,"well, I believe
that the internal combustion engine is the root of all evil, and that we
need to save the world from CFCs and that if any more freon is used, the
whole Earth will become a greenhouse and we'll all die." God says, "OK,
come and sit at my left".
And, God asks Clinton what he believes in. "Well", says Clinton, "I
believe in power to the people. I think people should be able to make
their own choices about things and that no one should be able to tell
someone else what to do". God nods and says ,"come and sit at my right".
And, then He asks, "Bill Gates, what do you believe?"
"I believe," says Gates, "you're in my chair".
AND....
######
Dear Earthling
Hello, I am a creature from a galaxy far away, visiting your planet
I have transformed myself in to this text file. As you are reading it, I
am having sex with your eyeballs. I know this because you are smiling.
Please pass me on to someone else now as I am finished with you and I'm
still really horny.
Lots of love,
Your friendly alien.
#####
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Date: 17 May 98 10:35:11 +0200
Subject: Rot-13
Hi all,
Anyone know if there is an Amiga version of Rot-13 ? Just that a newsgroup
I am in has decided to use this for any hints/tips for games cause people
weren't leaving the spoiler space. I suppose I could try and work it out in
my head, but since they are more than one sentence I think I would be here
all year :-)
Ta
Taz
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Date: 17 May 98 11:42:20 +0100
Subject: W.O.A.
Hi,
Went to the W.O.A. yesterday. Must say it was a bit dissapointing.
There seamed less stalls there this year. Must be going down in
popularity (?).
Mind you there was some bargins about.
Tthe good news about Gateway 2000 bringing out the new (Amiga)
computer, priced about right to. Did anyone get the spics as I
didn't, and a new O.S.4. (Maybe its not all gloom and dome) for the
Amiga. Maybe this will give Gates a kick up the rear.
It's nice to know Gateway was not sitting on there bums all this
time, they were getting to know what people wanted and getting specs
for a new machine, that will outpace a P.C. nice!!
So look out world it looks rosy on the horzon.
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:18:58 +0100
Subject: What no opinions?
Hi :)
You know this is the only Amiga place I'm on that isn't full of people
with opinions on the news. Nobody going to stick their neck out?
Personally I'm generally for it. I think PR wise they cocked it up,
but I like their plans (what I know of them).
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:17:24 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Speed overrules shabby system -or does it?
Hi Paul Ferguson :)
On 15-May-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> I've just been informed that starting Monday I'm going round
'tagging'
> equipment thats possibly going to fail. In a factory this size thats
no
> joke :(
Just tag everything. It'll be quicker and probably just as accurate
anyway. ;)
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:16:11 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: Opera
Hi Daryl Smith :)
On 14-May-98, Daryl Smith wrote:
> On 14-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
>> What development? Finale is months late, the other three each have
>> *one* person working on them.
> Yeah that may well be but at least we do get updates although very
> occassionally. At least they are *still* supported unlike most
other
> amiga sw.
Yes they are, but I can't help feeling that the reason only one person
is working on each of them is due to the tedious rivalry these people
seem to have with each other.
> I have almost given up hope on Finales web cruiser (or
> whatever) I remember seeing a beta version at WOA last year!!
It was supposed to be at WOA this year. Wonder if it was?
>> I don't see why we should suppport inferior software simply because
>> the developer only works on Amigas.
> Jumping the gun a bit here. Lets wait to see Opera first. It may
well be
> good on the PC but the Amiga version is a different matter.
Given that the design philosophy of Opera pretty much mirrors that of
the Amiga I'm pretty optimistic.
>> Its worth stressing (due to threats of legal action) that this port
is
>> *not* connected to the recent attempt to get a legal version of ICQ
on
>> the Amiga.
> And now it looks as though there is not going to be a legal version
> either :-((
Its not looking good. Of course the WOA news may change things
dramatically.
>> That attempt was basically scuppered when someone got impatient and
>> started a mass email campaign. Mail bombing is a remarkably poor
way
>> of persuading companies to do things. :)
> I can imagine. Still did this method work for Opera or was the
campaign a
> bit more orgainsed??
The key difference is that the Opera makers asked people to show their
interest. With ICQ all that happened is that someone who had been
sympathetic got fed up.
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:52:07 -0000
Subject: Re: What no opinions?
On 17-May-98, Eoghann Irving wrote:
>Hi :)
>You know this is the only Amiga place I'm on that isn't full of people
>with opinions on the news. Nobody going to stick their neck out?
>Personally I'm generally for it. I think PR wise they cocked it up,
>but I like their plans (what I know of them).
I think a lot of people, including myself, are probably feeling a little
bitter about being encouraged into existing PPC upgrade routes
&c under the understanding that that was the path to the future
that Amiga was going to take.
Not that I'm thinking that Amiga TNG won't be good, and not that
I won't be buying it, cos I will. It just seems unfortunate that /clarity/
is still a word AI seem to be struggling to understand.
Dobbin
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:55:07 -0000
Subject: Re: W.O.A.
On 17-May-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
>Hi,
> Tthe good news about Gateway 2000 bringing out the new (Amiga)
>computer, priced about right to. Did anyone get the spics as I
>didn't, and a new O.S.4. (Maybe its not all gloom and dome) for the
>Amiga. Maybe this will give Gates a kick up the rear.
>
Not "OS4", no numbers, eh. ;)
> It's nice to know Gateway was not sitting on there bums all this
>time, they were getting to know what people wanted and getting specs
>for a new machine, that will outpace a P.C. nice!!
> So look out world it looks rosy on the horzon.
>
Just starts to seem like, every few months, a big name in the Amiga
field suddenly reveals all their new plans for wonderous new PC beating
hardware, and then... a few more months later, they either change it
all into something completely different or scrap it all together. :/
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