Daniel Johns

Daniel Johns and his silverchair cohorts are not old enough to drive. By their own accounts they don't date much either. They are a band of callow youth, but they do have a hit record.

While certainly not the first smooth-cheeked youngsters to attain stardom, silverchair are a whole lot hipper that Tiffany. Or Menudo. Their hit "Tomorrow"--four minutes of steamy grunge that could just as easily have come from Seattle as Newcastle, Australia, silverchair's home port-- marked the band as hot, fresh newcomers on the modern rock scene. Fresh is the operative term, as Johns is just 16 and his bandmates, bassist Chris Joannou and drummer Ben Gillies, are only 15. All three are in the Australian equivalent of 10th grade.

Not too long ago they were carefree surfer dudes, playing rugby on the beach and making up rap songs in their bedrooms. Eventually they got instruments--Joannou had to be cajoled into taking up bass--and became basement rock stars. "We just expected to play in the garage for the rest of our lives,"says Johns.

But all that changed when they entered a tape of three songs, including "Tomorrow," in a radio station competition. They won first prize, which included a chance to record the song professionally and film a video.

"Tomorrow" took off, spending six weeks at No.1 in Australia and netting silverchair a recording contract. Then their Frogstomp album entered the Australian charts at No.1, leading to a chance to ply their adolescent craft across the Pacific. Perhaps most surprisingly of all, the band has met with similarly spectacular success here, in the birthplace of grunge.

silverchair is managed by the musicians' mothers, but when it comes to talking guitar, Johns makes it clear that it's he who holds the axe strings.



Guitar World:What was your first guitar?

Daniel Johns:I just got a guitar about three-and-a-half years ago. It was , like, a $70 guitar, really cheap. I learned three chords; one of the first songs I played was "Paranoid," by Black Sabbath. Then I started doing "Rock and Roll"by Led Zepplin and stuff like that.

GW:Those were your influences?

Johns:Yep--Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and that kind of stuff.

GW:You're a little young for those groups. Where'd you hear them?

Johns:My parents' record collection. They have all that music in there, and I couldn't afford to buy my own CD's. They had a lot of Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Doors.

GW:What were you doing with your time before you picked up the guitar?

Johns:We'd just surf and chuck the football around down at the park. It was the rugby league football. I didn't really play any positions; we used to go around for fun and chuck the ball around.

GW:Are you much of a surfer?

Johns:We do it as much as we can. We're not really good. It's just fun--something to do.

GW:So was it love at first sight when you got your guitar? Were you playing all the time?

Johns:Not really. When I first got it, I didn't know how to play anything. I'd just pick it up, never really practice it at all. Then I learned classical guitar for a year and started practicing a lot. It was all right. The reason I did it was I got a Deep Purple video, and Ritchie Blackmore said he did classical training for a year, so I wanted to copy him.

GW:Did you learn much from those lessons?

Johns:Yeah, I learned quite a bit. It made me practice more. I had to get stuff right for when the guitar guy came. He was pretty good. I only had one year of lessons; I learned the rest from the radio and records.

GW:How did you jump from your parents' music to your own favorites?

Johns:My dad went and bought a Soundgarden record because he heard they sounded like Black Sabbath. He turned it on, and I really liked it. Then someone told me to sit down and listen to Pearl Jam, and I really liked that too. Then my next door neighbor said, "If you like Sabbath, listen to Helmet," and she had all the Helmet records. Now I'm really into that and Tool, the Rollins Band and Quicksand--bands like that.

GW:How much does it grind you when everybody talks about how much silverchair sounds like a Seattle band?

Johns:Not too much, really. Pearl Jam and Soundgarden were really big influences when we first got a record contract. I still like them and listen to them a bit. But we don't like them now as much as we like Helmet and Tool; we're more into that New York hardcore kind of sound right now.

That's more what our new stuff sounds like. It's heavy music, but it's still with a melody, not full of screaming like Rollins.I can't do that; it sounds dumb.

GW:What were your first songs like?

Johns:Me and Ben started writing rap songs first. They went for about 20 seconds or something. It was just something to do. Then I started learning guitar at 12 or so and started writing proper songs. They were really bad; the first one was "Felt Like It," and it had three or four chords in it. Probably "Tomorrow" was the first proper song we wrote that we liked.

GW:Have you become Australia's biggest guitar hero since Angus Young?

Johns:I'm not a guitar hero! To me, it's just part of being in a band. It's not like a main instrument. It's part of the band.

GW:You mean there isn't a wicked soloist lurking inside you?

Johns:I don't really like that kind of stuff; I never really liked it. I don't think it sounds good if you're in a three-piece band, really. It just loses all its guts if you're just playing this riff and all of a sudden you go into this really fast guitar solo and stuff.

GW:It's interesting you feel that way, because all of your early heros, like Blackmore and Tony Iommi, loved to take solos.

Johns:We like that kind of stuff, but you've got to be good to be able to do that, and I can't do it.[laughs]We used to be a four-piece, and I played quite a few solos back then. But when the other guitarist left I just said,"Stuff this. We're just gonna keep it sounding ballsy, fat, just cut out all the solos."

Sometimes, like in "Tomorrow," there's a little bit of a guitar solo, but that's as much as we do. None of our new songs have any guitar solos or anything. Usually a guitar solo for me is just a breakdown in the song or a bit of a change. Instead of putting in a guitar solo, we'll think up a different riff and put that in, just to make a song less boring.

GW:What's your favorite solo on a record?

Johns:My favorite guitarist ever is Ritchie Blackmore, but my favorite solo is Jimmy Page in "Heartbreaker." That's an unreal solo.

GW:Page was an influence too?

Johns:Yeah, quite a bit. We used to listen to Zepplin all the time. Ben was probably the most influenced by Led Zepplin; he loved John Bonham. I was more into Deep Purple and Black Sabbath. Now I like Led Zepplin a lot more than I used to.

GW:Who are your favorite guitarists from the punk and alternative rock movements?

Johns:I don't really like individual guitarists. I like guitar riffs. I don't say, "I like the guitarist but I don't like the band." If a good guitarist is in a bad band, I wouldn't like him any better.

GW:Do you feel like you're still improving?

Johns:As long as you're playing, I guess, you're always improving. I'm not really keen on being the best guitarist and seeing who can play the best solos and stuff. To me a guitarist is a part of the band. As long as I like what we're playing, as long as I can keep good time and don't stuff up too much, I don't care if I improve too much.

GW:Do you take music class in school?

Johns: Yeah. It really sucks. You do really dumb crap you don't want to do, just stupid old folk songs and stuff. You just sit there tapping wood sticks. It's really bad.

GW:You have a hit album, though. Don't the teachers treat you any differently?

Johns:Nah. They treat us like the other people. The say, "O.K.,sit down and shut up," and we sit there and don't say anything. One of my friends in class really likes punk, so when we get free time, he picks up an acoustic guitar and I get on the drums just to muck around and we'll play a really fast song. It usually sounds really bad, but it's fun.


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