April 1997 Archives B
Posted by Ned Leeds Jr. on April 08, 1997 at 17:52:06 PST
> > > > > > > > > > > By the way, how'd M.O.D.O.K. die anyway??? > > > > > CC > > > > If memory serves me correctly, MODOK was killed when a bunch of members of the Serpent Society jumped on him and bit him, poisoning him. Yep, lame story. > > > > Historian Ned > > > To put in a more detailed sense,AIM hated Modok and hired the Serpent Society to kill him off! The two members known as Cotton mouth and Deathadder kick Modok's big headed @$$!! Due to the cuts he received from Deathadder's claws (which were poisonous by the way) Modok died!!! Deathadder,now I wouldn't mind having that guy back!! > > > Cya > > > Whenever there is injustice,tyranny,ruthlessness...the Plaid Skull was there!! > > Damnit,Plaidy!!!!!! They jumped on him and bit him!!!!!! They were on top of him and biting him!!!!!!! > > Whew!!!! Ned > How the hell can Deathadder bite him? He has a mask!!!! As for Cottonmouth,yes he was biting him!! Deathadder claws were tipped with poison and with the help of Cottonmouth's biting killed the big headed bastard!!! Oh,and BTW Bring Back Modok!!! > Cya > Whenever there is injustice,tyranny,ruthlessness...The Plaid Skull was there! He could ...um...bite him through his mask...uh...with his razor sharp teeth...So there!!!! Don't bring him back, cause they bit him and he is dead. A Heavily Medicated Ned |
Posted by Ned Leeds Jr. on April 08, 1997 at 17:53:20 PST > ...how Flag Smasher died? > Cya > Whenever there was Injustice, Tyranny, Ruthlessness...The Plaid Skull was there!! ...um...they bit him? |
Posted by Hal/Wally in 2000 on April 09, 1997 at 08:48:10 PST You know Cap. might be one of the greatest heroes of all time. Cap. fights for what everyone should believe in truth and justice. Hey how many other heroes are allways there no matter what the odds? Cap. will always be there.
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Posted by Cheshire Cat on April 09, 1997 at 09:12:32 PST > You know Cap. might be one of the greatest heroes of all time. Cap. fights for what everyone should believe in truth and justice. Hey how many other heroes are allways there no matter what the odds? Cap. will always be there. > I agree. CC |
Posted by Venom on April 09, 1997 at 10:01:52 PST
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Posted by Tempest on April 09, 1997 at 10:26:17 PST
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Posted by Tempest on April 09, 1997 at 10:30:51 PST If we didn't think so, would we be here? To borrow a much-cliched line, "Captain America is the best there ever was and the best there ever will be!" No disrespect to Batman, but if a vote was taken based on honest, sensible opinion and not popularity, Captain America would have won the Amalgam fight! Anyway, Hail Cap! |
Posted by Tempest on April 09, 1997 at 10:36:17 PST
Has anyone read the recent issue of Wizard where they come up with their version of "dream teams" for all the main Marvel titles, including Cap? |
Posted by Starving Writer on April 09, 1997 at 11:31:27 PST I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. What a difference a change of writer/artist make! So, what do y'all think? Starving Writer |
Posted by Daniel Angers on April 09, 1997 at 12:08:13 PST
> Has anyone read the recent issue of Wizard where they come up with their version of "dream teams" for all the main Marvel titles, including Cap? I stopped buying Wizard because of things like that (and also they keep telling us how good Ron Marz is!!! F**k that). Ron Lim ?!? C'mon, he's not even in the top fives. I agree with you, Garney is one of the real good Cap artist. My top three Cap artists are: 1- Jack Kirby (respect for the creator) Dan
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Posted by Daniel Angers on April 09, 1997 at 12:10:46 PST > I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... > HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. > What a difference a change of writer/artist make! Hey, it's James Robinson, you can be sure it'll be good. But why the hell are you boycotting a book if you think it's a good book ? Dan |
Posted by Bubba2 on April 09, 1997 at 12:46:17 PST
> Has anyone read the recent issue of Wizard where they come up with their version of "dream teams" for all the main Marvel titles, including Cap? I like Garney's clean lines and "live" feel to his art. I really miss that in most comics. I look forward to him being back on Cap. Hey, did anyone else notice that the newest edition of Cap in HR is much better drawn than when Robby boy was doing the book? I almost bought it, but I decided to save my money. Bubba2 |
Posted by Bubba2 on April 09, 1997 at 12:49:05 PST > I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... > HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. > What a difference a change of writer/artist make! > So, what do y'all think? > Starving Writer Yeah, I liked the look of this new writer/artist team! They even made a sly poke at Clinton in the book. I also didn't buy it, however, because I don't really want to support the hype that has become Heroes Unborn. I wish they had never gone this route, although the new team seems to be bringing Cap back in line with the character we all knew and loved (pre-Robby boy!). Bubba2 |
Posted by Hal/Wally in 2000 on April 09, 1997 at 13:09:45 PST I could not wait to post this! Captain America the legend is back. No more eagle (thank god). Good artwork. I loved this comic it actually had a good story to it. If you like me are a diehard Cap. fan then it is a day to rejoyice! Thank god almighty no more Robslaught and no more Rodsuck. |
Posted by Hal/Wally in 2000 on April 09, 1997 at 13:11:32 PST > I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... > HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. > What a difference a change of writer/artist make! > So, what do y'all think? > Starving Writer This comic is why I love Cap so much. Even though it is HR I brought it because I will stick by Cap through the good and the bad. Hal/Wally in 2000 |
Posted by Venom on April 09, 1997 at 13:47:31 PST > I could not wait to post this! Captain America the legend is back. No more eagle (thank god). Good artwork. I loved this comic it actually had a good story to it. If you like me are a diehard Cap. fan then it is a day to rejoyice! Thank god almighty no more Robslaught and no more Rodsuck. I agree the eagle is gone, I look forward to the flash back and the solo shot with Bucky and Cross bones. It is going to be beautiful, The A is back. Long LIve Captain America. --Venom-- |
Posted by Ned Leeds Jr. on April 09, 1997 at 14:53:50 PST > > I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... > > HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. > > What a difference a change of writer/artist make! > > So, what do y'all think? > > Starving Writer > This comic is why I love Cap so much. Even though it is HR I brought it because I will stick by Cap through the good and the bad. > Hal/Wally in 2000
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Posted by Daniel Angers on April 09, 1997 at 16:11:50 PST > I could not wait to post this! Captain America the legend is back. No more eagle (thank god). Good artwork. I loved this comic it actually had a good story to it. If you like me are a diehard Cap. fan then it is a day to rejoyice! Thank god almighty no more Robslaught and no more Rodsuck. YEAH!!!! It was a real good story. Again, Robinson proves that he's among the best writer in the industry. I hope the new team on Avengers will be that good. Dan |
Posted by The Plaid Goblin on April 09, 1997 at 18:15:32 PST > If we didn't think so, would we be here? To borrow a much-cliched line, "Captain America is the best there ever was and the best there ever will be!" No disrespect to Batman, but if a vote was taken based on honest, sensible opinion and not popularity, Captain America would have won the Amalgam fight! Anyway, Hail Cap! Also Cap fights for his country!! Not because someone killed his parents!! Not because someone killed his best friend!! His fight has nothing to do about vengeance whatsoever!! Cap does it because he wants to!! If nothing tragic happened to Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker,I doubt that they'd do anything to help people out except maybe give some of their bucks to charity!! Hail Cap!!! Cya |
Posted by The Amazing Bob on April 09, 1997 at 20:26:01 PST > I could not wait to post this! Captain America the legend is back. No more eagle (thank god). Good artwork. I loved this comic it actually had a good story to it. If you like me are a diehard Cap. fan then it is a day to rejoyice! Thank god almighty no more Robslaught and no more Rodsuck. It was the first issue of Captian America I've ever bought. It was pretty good, but I don't know if I'd add it to my must buy list. I guess I'll give it a couple issue chance. I mainly picked it up because of Robinson. It's not as good as his work on Starman, but it was a good comic. I liked the flashback theme (since I knew almost nothing going in). |
Posted by Daniel Angers on April 09, 1997 at 20:46:12 PST > > I could not wait to post this! Captain America the legend is back. No more eagle (thank god). Good artwork. I loved this comic it actually had a good story to it. If you like me are a diehard Cap. fan then it is a day to rejoyice! Thank god almighty no more Robslaught and no more Rodsuck. > It was the first issue of Captian America I've ever bought. It was pretty good, but I don't know if I'd add it to my must buy list. I guess I'll give it a couple issue chance. I mainly picked it up because of Robinson. It's not as good as his work on Starman, but it was a good comic. Well, Leave it to Chance and Starman may be James at his best but I think he did a pretty good job on Cap considering he had to undo all the crap Rob done. I'm sure we'll have a good ride with James and don't forget that Mark Waid and Ron Garney will return after heroes reborn, so you can add it to your must buy list. It's worth it. Dan |
Posted by Starving Writer on April 10, 1997 at 02:51:20 PST > > I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... > > HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. > > What a difference a change of writer/artist make! > Hey, it's James Robinson, you can be sure it'll be good. But why the hell are you boycotting a book if you think it's a good book ? > Dan A few reasons.... 1) To save money. 2) So I can show support for when Waid/Busiek/Kesel takes over the post-HR books by helping to cause the sales to rise. I want HR to end as soon as possible! Starving Writer |
Posted by Hobgoblin on April 10, 1997 at 06:19:43 PST Sure, it was leaps and bounds above Robslaught's crap, but it wasn't great, either. But much of that is because it had to deal with re-capping Liefeld's lame new 'origin' ... Which is just really really really dumb. And I hated having to look at Clinton's ugly mug the whole issue! But, it was definately the right start. And man, what a cover! --Hobgoblin |
Posted by Hobgoblin on April 10, 1997 at 06:21:50 PST
> For a single issue, my favorite is his resignation in Cap # 332 (with the bleeding flag on the cover). --Hobby |
Posted by Daniel Angers on April 10, 1997 at 08:25:40 PST > > > I flipped through this book at the comic shop today... and what can I say? Simply this... > > > HR Cap America #7, despite being basically a "flashback" issue, had more plot and story by itself than Liefeld's entire 6-issue run. If I wasn't boycotting HR until it ends, I would had picked it up. This was easily the best Cap America issue since HR started... maybe even the best HR book so far. > > > What a difference a change of writer/artist make! > > Hey, it's James Robinson, you can be sure it'll be good. But why the hell are you boycotting a book if you think it's a good book ? > > Dan > A few reasons.... > 1) To save money. But there is always a place for a good book. > 2) So I can show support for when Waid/Busiek/Kesel takes over the post-HR books by helping to cause the sales to rise. Hey, I never thought of that. It's a good point. Dan
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Posted by Daniel Angers on April 10, 1997 at 08:28:05 PST > Sure, it was leaps and bounds above Robslaught's crap, but it wasn't great, either. But much of that is because it had to deal with re-capping Liefeld's lame new 'origin' ... Which is just really really really dumb. And I hated having to look at Clinton's ugly mug the whole issue! > But, it was definately the right start. And man, what a cover! > --Hobgoblin I agree with you for the cover, it was great ! I hope Jim Lee will continue to do the covers for Cap. And for the story, I think it was pretty good considering that Robinson didn't plot it. Dan |
Posted by Hobgoblin on April 10, 1997 at 15:03:30 PST I liked her. What happened to her? --Hobby |
Posted by Cheshire Cat on April 10, 1997 at 16:45:35 PST
> > Has anyone read the recent issue of Wizard where they come up with their version of "dream teams" for all the main Marvel titles, including Cap? > I stopped buying Wizard because of things like that (and also they keep telling us how good Ron Marz is!!! F**k that). Ron Lim ?!? C'mon, he's not even in the top fives. I agree with you, Garney is one of the real good Cap artist. My top three Cap artists are: > 1- Jack Kirby (respect for the creator) > Dan I agree, for the most part, with the above list... 1 - Jack Kirby This was one of the two or three choices for "Dream Teams" that I argued with... CC CC |
Posted by Justice on April 10, 1997 at 16:47:43 PST > I liked her. What happened to her? > --Hobby I liked her, too. It seems she fell into comic limbo, after apparently turning to Superia's side in order to get Steve cured. I hope she comes back after Heroes Reborn. I greatly preferres her to Sharon Carter. |
Posted by Justice on April 10, 1997 at 16:53:29 PST Remember Cap's ragtag group of cohorts who hung out with him for awhile? The group basically consisted of Nomad, Vagabond, Falcon, Demolition Man, and Diamondback. I wouldn't mind seeing them (with the expecption of Nomad, who never impressed me) return, possibly with the addition of Free Spirit. Not necessarily permanently, just in an occassional guest role. Maybe even just for one story. But I think it would be so cool to see Waid and Garney work on them. Others I want to see Waid and Garney work on include the Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Quasar, Spitfire (who was rejuvenated, remember), and Union Jack. I think the Cap Dream team could make all of these characters alot of fun. |
Posted by Tempest on April 11, 1997 at 10:06:13 PST
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Posted by Bubba2 on April 11, 1997 at 10:35:08 PST
> Justice, I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? Bubba2 |
Posted by Cheshire Cat on April 11, 1997 at 10:40:42 PST
> > Justice, > I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? > Bubba2 Yeah, well, Baron Blood also got impaled on a stalactite near Falsworth Manor back in the '40s, and he came back from that to have Cap chop his head off with his shield... CC |
Posted by Justice on April 11, 1997 at 14:24:47 PST
> > > Justice, > > I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? > > Bubba2 > Yeah, well, Baron Blood also got impaled on a stalactite near Falsworth Manor back in the '40s, and he came back from that to have Cap chop his head off with his shield... > CC Okay, so we settled the Baron Blood thing (although nobody mentioned that there was also another Baron Blood in the Dr. Strange series). But what about the other characters? Huh?
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Posted by Tempest on April 11, 1997 at 14:43:26 PST > > > I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? > > > Bubba2 > > Yeah, well, Baron Blood also got impaled on a stalactite near Falsworth Manor back in the '40s, and he came back from that to have Cap chop his head off with his shield... > > CC > Okay, so we settled the Baron Blood thing (although nobody mentioned that there was also another Baron Blood in the Dr. Strange series). But what about the other characters? Huh? Sorry, but one more Blood comment, Justice. I don't remember him ever appearing in any of the Waid/Garney issues, CC. I think the only super-villains used in any of the Waid/Garney issues was Red Skull and...darn it what's his name that caused Steve to be exiled. But I think Waid/Garney could take any of the old Cap cast members and make them cool. Can any of you tell me whats up with Jack Flagg, I've got the back issues from that story arc he was in, but haven't had the chance to read it yet. He looks cool, but was he a good guy or what? |
Posted by Tempest on April 11, 1997 at 14:50:59 PST > I like Garney's clean lines and "live" feel to his art. I really miss that in most comics. I look forward to him being back on Cap. Hey, did anyone else notice that the newest edition of Cap in HR is much better drawn than when Robby boy was doing the book? I almost bought it, but I decided to save my money. > Bubba2 I haven't gotten my copy of #7 in the mail yet, but who did the artwork...Platt? Anything is better than Liefeld, well maybe with the exception of stick figures. Ya, I like Garney's "live" feel to. He just embues such strength and nobility in Cap's appearance. It makes you almost want to stand up and salute! What I miss most in comics is the use of smaller panels. Too many artists today forsake good storytelling artwork for pinups and splash pages. It makes me sick to see it so prevalent in comics today. I guess that's what irks me the most about the HR stuff, even Iron Man. They drag out into 5 issues what should be told in 1 or 2 issues. I don't know if its the writers fault for not creating enough script, forcing the artist to use more splashes or its the artist demanding the writer to write shorter scripts to allow more splashes. Either way it sucks! |
Posted by The Plaid Skull on April 11, 1997 at 20:17:25 PST Wow!! George Washington planted Hemp,had slaves, and put illuminati symbols on American currency?!!! No wonder his teeth were so crappy!! He was too busy smokin'!!! Not only is Cap America entertaining now, but it's also educational!!! Go back with the "A" Cap!! Go back with the "A"!!! Cya Whenever there was Injustice, Tyranny, Ruthlessness...The Plaid Skull was there!! |
Posted by Justice on April 11, 1997 at 21:18:57 PST > > > > I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? > > > > Bubba2 > > > Yeah, well, Baron Blood also got impaled on a stalactite near Falsworth Manor back in the '40s, and he came back from that to have Cap chop his head off with his shield... > > > CC > > Okay, so we settled the Baron Blood thing (although nobody mentioned that there was also another Baron Blood in the Dr. Strange series). But what about the other characters? Huh? > Sorry, but one more Blood comment, Justice. I don't remember him ever appearing in any of the Waid/Garney issues, CC. I think the only super-villains used in any of the Waid/Garney issues was Red Skull and...darn it what's his name that caused Steve to be exiled. But I think Waid/Garney could take any of the old Cap cast members and make them cool. Can any of you tell me whats up with Jack Flagg, I've got the back issues from that story arc he was in, but haven't had the chance to read it yet. He looks cool, but was he a good guy or what? No problem, Tempest. Jack Flagg was a good guy, and he teamed up with Free Spirit and Cap right before Cap "expired". His powers were very similar to those of Cap and Spirit, so the trio had a problem with making a multi-faceted attack, but hey. He wasn't particulary amazing, but I have always been a proponent of "lame" characters in comics (after all, without the lame ones, where would the great ones be?), since the writer can take more risks with them and they can be a lot of fun. He did have a pretty dumb name, though. As for my previous message, I wasn't really addressing you, but the two who responded to you. I was glad they addressed your Baron Blood question, but I would like to get their opinion on my post, too. Either way, your reply has given me satisfaction that I'm not the only one wanting to see some of these characters back. |
Posted by Justice on April 11, 1997 at 22:54:47 PST > > I like Garney's clean lines and "live" feel to his art. I really miss that in most comics. I look forward to him being back on Cap. Hey, did anyone else notice that the newest edition of Cap in HR is much better drawn than when Robby boy was doing the book? I almost bought it, but I decided to save my money. > > Bubba2 > I haven't gotten my copy of #7 in the mail yet, but who did the artwork...Platt? Anything is better than Liefeld, well maybe with the exception of stick figures. Ya, I like Garney's "live" feel to. He just embues such strength and nobility in Cap's appearance. It makes you almost want to stand up and salute! What I miss most in comics is the use of smaller panels. Too many artists today forsake good storytelling artwork for pinups and splash pages. It makes me sick to see it so prevalent in comics today. I guess that's what irks me the most about the HR stuff, even Iron Man. They drag out into 5 issues what should be told in 1 or 2 issues. I don't know if its the writers fault for not creating enough script, forcing the artist to use more splashes or its the artist demanding the writer to write shorter scripts to allow more splashes. Either way it sucks!
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Posted by The Plaid Skull on April 11, 1997 at 23:03:01 PST > > > > > I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? > > > > > Bubba2 > > > > Yeah, well, Baron Blood also got impaled on a stalactite near Falsworth Manor back in the '40s, and he came back from that to have Cap chop his head off with his shield... > > > > CC > > > Okay, so we settled the Baron Blood thing (although nobody mentioned that there was also another Baron Blood in the Dr. Strange series). But what about the other characters? Huh? > > Sorry, but one more Blood comment, Justice. I don't remember him ever appearing in any of the Waid/Garney issues, CC. I think the only super-villains used in any of the Waid/Garney issues was Red Skull and...darn it what's his name that caused Steve to be exiled. But I think Waid/Garney could take any of the old Cap cast members and make them cool. Can any of you tell me whats up with Jack Flagg, I've got the back issues from that story arc he was in, but haven't had the chance to read it yet. He looks cool, but was he a good guy or what? > No problem, Tempest. Jack Flagg was a good guy, and he teamed up with Free Spirit and Cap right before Cap "expired". His powers were very similar to those of Cap and Spirit, so the trio had a problem with making a multi-faceted attack, but hey. He wasn't particulary amazing, but I have always been a proponent of "lame" characters in comics (after all, without the lame ones, where would the great ones be?), since the writer can take more risks with them and they can be a lot of fun. He did have a pretty dumb name, though. As for my previous message, I wasn't really addressing you, but the two who responded to you. I was glad they addressed your Baron Blood question, but I would like to get their opinion on my post, too. Either way, your reply has given me satisfaction that I'm not the only one wanting to see some of these characters back. Hey,who is the current Union Jack? Is he Falsworth or is he still the later Union Jack's friend? Does he still have that cool costume? And as for Diamond Back I wouldn't mind having her back if she changed her costume!! Nomad is a nazi now isn't he? Cya Whenever there is injustice, tyranny, ruthlessness...the Plaid Skull was there!! |
Posted by Michael Kaiser on April 12, 1997 at 10:19:58 PST > > What's with this Sharon Carter coming back from the dead? Last I saw her she was set ablaze by the Grand Director,how do you come back from that? > > Cya > Well Mark can make anything happen can't he? > Hal/Wally in 2000 (61 days till I meet Waid!) Well wasn't Shield in the habit of making robot/androids out of their agents sometime in the 80's. I thought that was what had happened. Besides which, Cap saw Sharon's death via a monitor so that could have easily been faked. Mike.... |
Posted by Tony on April 12, 1997 at 16:39:46 PST After Liefield started on Cap, I stopped buying the title. Does anyone know the whys and wherefores of his departure (other than the obvious fact that he can't write and was totally screwing up a classic character)? I hope this signals Liefield's departure from COMICS entirely. |
Posted by Swashbuckler on April 13, 1997 at 07:38:18 PST
Some of this is speculation, some of it is fact ... Two words: Bad Press. Marvel got lambaisted with bad press for Liefeld's crap on Avengers & Cap. Even though it sold, it made Marvel look really bad. Then, there was a change at the top -- the folks who made the agreement with Lee & Liefeld were removed -- and Marvel ditched him. I assume they figured they could get just as good sales without him now as with him. I have a feeling they might be even better. Hope that helps! -- Swashbuckler |
Posted by Daniel G. Christensen on April 13, 1997 at 08:12:37 PST > I don't know if you people saw that article in a recent issue of Wizard, but they asked this same question and I agree with them. They said that the biggest edge Batman has is his ability to plan ahead for this rumble. he would set up various traps and escapes to fight another day. Well, This is what the Red Skull does every single time they fight and Cap wins anyway. Cap wins in a straight mano-a-mano fight. ...Cap would win, that's just what he does. Bravo! Well put, I couldn't have said it better my self!. My money's on Captain America |
Posted by batroc on April 13, 1997 at 11:28:25 PST
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Posted by Ned Leeds Jr. on April 13, 1997 at 13:29:33 PST
> I dunno.....His stuff was fun to look at. My favorite memory of his work is the naet Cap cover with the Hulk and Bucky trying like crazy to get out of his way.... |
Posted by Arcade on April 14, 1997 at 05:57:49 PST > > > > > > I'm not real sure if Baron Blood can be brought back, didn't Cap decapitate him the last time they met? > > > > > > Bubba2 > > > > > Yeah, well, Baron Blood also got impaled on a stalactite near Falsworth Manor back in the '40s, and he came back from that to have Cap chop his head off with his shield... > > > > > CC > > > > Okay, so we settled the Baron Blood thing (although nobody mentioned that there was also another Baron Blood in the Dr. Strange series). But what about the other characters? Huh? > > > Sorry, but one more Blood comment, Justice. I don't remember him ever appearing in any of the Waid/Garney issues, CC. I think the only super-villains used in any of the Waid/Garney issues was Red Skull and...darn it what's his name that caused Steve to be exiled. But I think Waid/Garney could take any of the old Cap cast members and make them cool. Can any of you tell me whats up with Jack Flagg, I've got the back issues from that story arc he was in, but haven't had the chance to read it yet. He looks cool, but was he a good guy or what? > > No problem, Tempest. Jack Flagg was a good guy, and he teamed up with Free Spirit and Cap right before Cap "expired". His powers were very similar to those of Cap and Spirit, so the trio had a problem with making a multi-faceted attack, but hey. He wasn't particulary amazing, but I have always been a proponent of "lame" characters in comics (after all, without the lame ones, where would the great ones be?), since the writer can take more risks with them and they can be a lot of fun. He did have a pretty dumb name, though. As for my previous message, I wasn't really addressing you, but the two who responded to you. I was glad they addressed your Baron Blood question, but I would like to get their opinion on my post, too. Either way, your reply has given me satisfaction that I'm not the only one wanting to see some of these characters back. > Hey,who is the current Union Jack? Is he Falsworth or is he still the later Union Jack's friend? Does he still have that cool costume? And as for Diamond Back I wouldn't mind having her back if she changed her costume!! Nomad is a nazi now isn't he? > Cya > Whenever there is injustice, tyranny, ruthlessness...the Plaid Skull was there!! Last I saw Diamondback, she donned the outfit of her nemesis Snapdragon (the one who almost killed her) after Diamond killed her (confused? good.) Last I saw Nomad, she got blown up in the last issue of his series (#25), and was cryogenically frozen on the last page. He ain't been seen since. To answer a question way before these two, the two primary villains of the Waid/Garney books were the Red Skull and the Machinesmith (I'm pretty sure he got killed in the conclusion of that storyline; at least, I'm hoping.)
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Posted by Arcade on April 14, 1997 at 06:08:47 PST A few years ago, Wizard announced a contest where people could write a short story for a future 1/2 issue of Captain America to be shipped with an issue of the magazine (I don't think they went through with it at the end, though) So I wrote a story about Captain America, Daredevil and (you guessed it) Arcade. In it, I had Daredevil get captured by Arcade, and Captain America, who was nearby fighting the Killer Shrike (or the Beetle, I can't quite remember), hears Daredevil being captured (by Arcade's infamous garbage truck) and follows the truck to an abandoned pier in NYC. He breaks into the building, only to be trapped in Murderworld, which is situated some distance below the building. While Arcade plays around with Daredevil, he sees Cap and loads up some VR-type program which features people associated with Cap (like Sharon Carter, Bucky and the Red Skull), torturing Cap with stuff like "Why did you let me die Cap?!" and "You'll never ever beat me Captain America!!!", until Cap nearly flips out and destroys Arcade's VR device with his shield. Arcade retreats, Cap rescues Daredevil, and they escape Murderworld, which appropriately blows up just as they get out. Of course, there were problems with this story (written at least 3 or 4 years ago), like how did Arcade know about Sharon Carter and Cap's association, and why did Murderworld blow up after Cap wrecked a simple computer device. But hey, it was a contest, which ended up having no winner because there was no comic. Anybody like or dislike? Please post if you like; please don't thrash me and my way of thinking,I beg you. Bye!
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Posted by The Plaid Hal! on April 14, 1997 at 09:31:23 PST > Remember Cap's ragtag group of cohorts who hung out with him for awhile? The group basically consisted of Nomad, Vagabond, Falcon, Demolition Man, and Diamondback. I wouldn't mind seeing them (with the expecption of Nomad, who never impressed me) return, possibly with the addition of Free Spirit. Not necessarily permanently, just in an occassional guest role. Maybe even just for one story. But I think it would be so cool to see Waid and Garney work on them. Others I want to see Waid and Garney work on include the Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Quasar, Spitfire (who was rejuvenated, remember), and Union Jack. I think the Cap Dream team could make all of these characters alot of fun. Hey what about Skull and Murdock? Oh and Viper. |
Posted by Tempest on April 14, 1997 at 09:40:54 PST Machinesmith!....that's his name. Thanks, Justice. I believe he was nixed at the conclusion. As I said earlier I'm spotty on my Cap history since I read the title regularly from issue 271 to 290, but quit until issue 444...now thats what you call a long layoff. Anyway, I've bought a considerable amount of backissues and I'm up to reading issue 219 right now. I can't wait to get to the rest of them!! Long Live Cap!! |
Posted by Tempest on April 14, 1997 at 09:45:17 PST
It sounds interesting to me. I haven't had an opportunity to read many stories involving Arcade and Murderworld, so that aspect of it is cool. |
Posted by Justice on April 14, 1997 at 09:46:15 PST > Machinesmith!....that's his name. Thanks, Justice. I believe he was nixed at the conclusion. As I said earlier I'm spotty on my Cap history since I read the title regularly from issue 271 to 290, but quit until issue 444...now thats what you call a long layoff. Anyway, I've bought a considerable amount of backissues and I'm up to reading issue 219 right now. I can't wait to get to the rest of them!! Long Live Cap!! Well, Tempest, your welcome, but it was actually Arcafe who said Machinesmith. :)
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Posted by Rob on April 14, 1997 at 12:18:21 PST
> > > For a single issue, my favorite is his resignation in Cap # 332 (with the bleeding flag on the cover). > --Hobby I think Englehart's run would generally rate as the most consistently good period (#153 thru #185 or so). Also the Steranko (#110, 111, & 113) & Byrne (#247-255) issues are among the best issues in the series. Most underrated period in my opinion is the early 1970s issues from around #120-144. These issues often had good complete-in-one-issue stories by Stan Lee, sometimes having social relevance, and art by the likes of Colan and Romita. I think such a format would work well today, in fact. Among my favorite issues of Cap (not counting any referred to above): #107 - First appearance of Doctor Faustus And...
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Posted by Tempest on April 14, 1997 at 13:45:44 PST > Well, Tempest, your welcome, but it was actually Arcafe who said Machinesmith. :) But Hey, you posed the question that eventually led to that question being answered so you still deserve my thanks! =) |
Posted by Moldy Sponge his psycho friends! on April 14, 1997 at 14:07:33 PST yeah, and you know what would really hit the spot is some warm, delicious apple pie. And who's Captain America. What is this even the Grandma's International Homepage. OH DARN IT! |
Posted by Rob on April 14, 1997 at 18:04:50 PDT
> > Garney is one of the real good Cap artist. My top three Cap artists are: > > 1- Jack Kirby (respect for the creator) > > Dan > I agree, for the most part, with the above list... > 1 - Jack Kirby
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Posted by Justice on April 14, 1997 at 21:09:15 PDT > > Well, Tempest, your welcome, but it was actually Arcafe who said Machinesmith. :) > But Hey, you posed the question that eventually led to that question being answered so you still deserve my thanks! =)
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