1. What Topps projects
are you currently working on?
Right now, I am working on... or at least, I should be working
on the Garbage Pail Kids All-New Series 5. These days, I am a
bit slow due to the chemotherapy and its unpleasant side effects. For
the last Wacky Package series I didn't get to do any work for
the same reasons. I was slow and weak, and when I could have started,
the whole thing was already over and done with.
2. How many pieces
of art, per project, do you hope to have completed for the release(s)?
I hope to paint at least 4-5 pieces, depending on the deadline. As usual,
I have many different jobs and things going on at the same time, though
Topps is one of my priorities. Jeff Zapata (art director at Topps) is
very understanding of my situation and gives me a lot of leeway... but
deadlines are deadlines. I hope I can do more paintings than mentioned
ANS5 - B14 PETE HEAT
3. What did you think of
the Sketch cards commemorating the 20th GPK anniversary for the
All-New Series 4 set? That's twenty sets in twenty years you've worked
on for Topps.
The sketch cards were a nice idea for the fans, so they could get their
greedy, collector fingers on some original art. It was also good for
Topps to sell more boxes, but for me, it was additional work (for minimal
compensation), and because it was shortly after my surgery, radiation,
and chemo, I had a really hard time even climbing up the stairs to my
studio and holding a pencil. That's why I did only some cards, I don't
even know how many I did. The remaining blank sketch cards I had to
send back for somebody else to do their sketches. The 20 years commemorating
part didn't really enter my mind very much at the time, but now I do
think more about time flying away rapidly, and my mind with it!
4. How does working on Garbage
Pail Kids now differ from twenty years ago?
Twenty years ago, it was much more exciting to work on the GPK.
I had a studio in Brooklyn, not far from Topps. They were in an industrial
part of Brooklyn, near the port, a very romantic area... it looked like
some great background for Mafia movies, where they get rid of their
victims by putting them into cement blocks and dumping them into the
water. Well, I went there once or twice a week to meet Art Spiegelman
and Mark Newgarden (and other nice people who were involved, like Len
Brown and Stan Hart). With the 3rd Series GPK, I started to work
on the fronts, but I also did a lot of work on the backs... partly complete
series and partly with other artists. I was actually so busy and stressed-out
that I didn't realize that the GPK had become a phenomenal rage
all over the globe. I remember Art asking me whether I knew that I was
involved in something really big... I didn't, but then I started to
see all of the newspaper articles about the GPKs crazy fame, and everywhere
I went I saw GPK wrappers on the floor, on the streets, and in
the subways. I was excited... thrilled... and amazed!
Today, things are just different
- calmer, and more professional. In the beginning, I was still learning
how to render the work realistically with Acrylic and airbrush. Though
it's not as exciting and nerve-wrecking because I am technically more
experienced and I feel more experienced, and I feel more confident.
But now I do enjoy it very much in another way, for example, I am now
getting recognition for the work I do and did for the GPK (and
many of the other Topps projects I did). The collectors are now more
knowledgeable about the artists behind the stickers, thanks to the fabulous
people like you Aaron, who kept the GPK flame on the front burner
all of these years - I wasn't even aware of it until Jay Lynch told
me about two years ago to check the internet in this regard. Well, in
the 80's, the fans were little kids, there was no internet and typically,
kids don't really care very much who does what, as long as it's really
disgusting - and the most important thing was that their parents and
teachers and other grown-ups hated them nasty, naughty stickers.
The other very nice side of
the development now-a-days is that because of the increased interest
in the art itself, I am starting to sell my sketches and roughs to collectors
and fans. Fortunately, I have kept all of my sketches (not because I
thought I would sell them one day, but because I can't throw anything
out!). Now I'm glad I stuffed every piece of paper into my drawer and
left it there all of these years.
BUNK AND MARK NEWGARDEN; CIRCA 1987
5. What is/were your favorite
Garbage Pail Kids that you drew in the Eighties?
My favorites are still the first ones: #89 (Hurt CURT/PAT Splat), #91
(BLAKE Flake/Hippie SKIPPY), #95 (Grim JIM/BETH Death), #115 (Warmin'
NORMAN/Well Done SHELDON), especially #178 (EARL Painting/Blue Boy GEORGE),
#263 (VINCENT Van Gone/Modern ART) and many others. Because they are
all somehow like my children, it's hard to choose just one favorite
- actually, I wouldn't like to have the GPK as my own children,
they would totally destroy my already unstable state of mind! - but
I still love them.
6. Do you have a favorite
Garbage Pail Kids for the All-New Series releases?
ANS1 - # 18 (Rodent ROB), #23 (Sushi SUSIE) and #28 (Duped DAVID). [editor's
note: also from the unpublished 16th series set]
ANS2 - #5 (Fat CHANCE) and #16 (Dandruff DAN).
ANS3 - #14 (BOB Gnarly), #10 (Astro NAT) and # 31 (Poopdeck PETE).
ANS4 - #12 (Brainwashed BRIAN) and #30 (Turdking TRAVIS).
7. With the Care Bears
being popular again, any hopes that Topps will come out with a card
release for the Gross Bears buttons you worked on in the 80's?
I don't know anything about Topps' plans in this regard, but I'll ask
Jeff Zapata. It would be about time to take on these cute bears and
tear them apart!
#1 FLARE BEAR
8. How was it working on
the Gross Bears set?
When I got the job in June of
1985 to create a complete Barf Bears series (that's what they were called
then), I thought, "Oh, my - that's going to be a major headache!".
It was the same time that John Pound was already working on the Garbage
Pail Kids, and Topps, Art Spiegelman, and Mark Newgarden had me already
drawing the cartoons for the reverse side of the complete 1st and 2nd
GPK sticker sets. And, on top of it all, my first child was just
about to be born. My wife and I lived in a one room apartment in Manhattan,
and I had to do the airbrushing (it's kind of toxic) in our tiny, windowless
bathroom! Also, I didn't know anything about airbrushing and had to
teach it to myself the nerve-wrecking way! So I had to find a studio
somewhere else where I would have the space, the peace, and the light
for the work... which happened to be in Brooklyn at my inlaws house
not far from Topps. There I completed in September, the whole Gross
Bears Buttons series, including the box artwork, "wrappers",
and lettering... warts and all!
Unfortunately, the Bears didn't have much of a chance to get very far,
because the GPK craze took all of the attention away from Topps,
the candy store sellers, the american youth, and the nation in general.
Then immediately after I finished the Bears, I started to work on the
Garbage Pail Kids, this time not only continuing to do work on
the backs, but now also on the fronts (starting with the 3rd series).
Because the GPK rage started to really take off and we had to
produce sets fast and furious, soon James Warhola joined the crazy club
with his art. It became a very stressful time for me for a couple of
years (without getting even one additional penny from the multi-million
dollar profit Topps ended up making - we didn't even get the originals
back - Topps later sold these in auctions making even more profit without
giving the artists any compensation as recognition of their contribution
-- which I thought really sucked). After that, Art Spiegelman left Topps
and made comic history by finishing his Maus books.
9. Where else can we find
Bunk art? And what other personal projects have you recently been working
I have worked quite regularly for MAD magazine since 1990, and I'm doing
a lot of other jobs for children books, science magazines, and illustrations
for high school textbooks (physics, chemistry, earth science, etc.).
I'm just now having an art exhibition in the Hall of Science in Queens,
NY where almost 60 of my metaphysical illustrations for Quantum, a science
magaizine, are being shown. There is also a wonderful book, called Quantoons,
with all of the illustrations that is published by NSTA. When I have
some time inbetween, and I wish I had more, I work for my own plain
pleasure on larger size oil paintings. That's what I really would like
to do in the future, whatever future there is in store for me. But to
survive, I have to do all of these jobs, after all, somebody has to
put the tofu on the table! I actually love to do them, too.
10. What other Topps projects,
other then Garbage Pail Kids and Gross Bears, have you
There were jobs to do all of the time besides GPK that Topps wanted
me to do. I worked on complete projects (with wrapper and box art, etc.)
like Stupid Smiles Stickers or Pick'N Chews Bubble Gum.
I illustrated two, very funny, little books called The Nursery Crimes
(parody of Nursery Rhymes) and My Pal the Pit Bull, both
have been finished but they never made it to the stores. I also created
art for a whole bunch of boxes: Dino (toys with candy eggs),
Wacky Packages (1985), Mutant Eggs, Funny Farm
(my first job in 1984), Cheap Toys (GPK toy figurines), T-Shirt
Factory, Thumb Sucker, etc. I also worked on various projects
like Toxic High, Gruesome Greeting Cards, Iron-Ons,
Wacky Packs, Trash Can Trolls, Bathroom Buddies,
and there were projects that were created, worked on, but never finished
or published - like the Loco Motion cards, with crazy images of x-treme
sports, like skating, snow boarding, dirtbiking, surfing, etc. There
were also projects that were started, and I don't even remember what
they were about! I did practically all the odds and ends stuff that
needed to be done at Topps, and I was always around. It seems I was
Topps' multi-talented, all-around, resident artist... and when I look
back, I wonder how I even had the time to take a breath, let alone live!