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1st Quarter 2016 Board Meeting Minutes

SSBGC Directors Meeting Jan. 3 (& Feb. 6), 2016- Minutes

 

MEETING CONVENED at Victoria Golf Course Club House- 9:04 a.m.

 ATTENDEES   

Board Members- Jim DeToskey, Chuck Devereaux, Steve Hill, Ray Sandoval Jr., Ted Sonju

General Member- John Nering

 OLD BUSINESS

 It was recognized that minutes of some previous Board meetings are unavailable/ unposted. As of this meeting, the Board recommitted to preparing, maintaining and posting in a timely manner the minutes of this and all future Board meetings. Responsibilities of each of the Board members were discussed and clarified relative to this commitment.

 CHAIRMAN'S REPORT

 Currently the position of Chairman remains vacant.

 DIRECTOR REPORTS

 Accounting & Tournaments – Jim DeToskey

 Jim reported that the Club’s checking account stood at $5516.77.  He said that there was an additional $116.00 in “petty cash”, and a total of $1656.00 on deposit with golf courses he has booked for 2016 tournaments. Outstanding liabilities at this time are comprised of the tournament fee balance to Los Amigos and SCGA membership fees, in total approximately $4000. The published 2016 Tournament venues are firm, although a few contractual documents have yet to be finalized. The rest of the Board commended Jim for a difficult and time consuming job well done.

 Handicap & Membership – Chuck Devereaux

As of January 1, 2016 the club has 58 active members in good standing. Normally at the end of the year, several members do not renew.  This year only four members did not renew. Two have moved out of the area, and one will almost certainly renew just a little late. And already we have 3 or 4 guests playing in January who have expressed an interest in joining us. So obviously membership remains strong. Chuck is in the process of updating all roster details in the GHIN database consistent with the latest information provided by members on their renewal forms.

Rules & Archives/ Special Events/ Entertainment - Steve Hill

 Steve reported the results of recent “satisfaction surveys”.  All received above average reviews with a strong majority, approving future play at each of the venues. The Fall Special Event will remain at the Alisal River Course in Solvang.  However the Spring Event will move from Carlton Oaks to Sycuan. This change would be further explained in detail under New Business. Steve will continue sending his timely and informative Rules emails to the general membership.

 Communications/ Tournament Announcements & Master of Ceremonies-

Ted Sonju & Ray Sandoval

It was agreed that Ted would take responsibility for posting of almost all information on the web once the board has approved it. Ted’s specific responsibilities will be that of posting the results for tournaments in a timely manner, keep the MPC standings up-to-date, post handicap indexes, tournament starter sheets and meeting minutes on the web. He noted that our web site remains a work-in- progress. We will continue to provide more pertinent information relative to club activities as soon as available, hopefully adding to the enjoyment that comes along with belonging to this club, even in the days between tournaments. (as decided per February 6th meeting).

 It was also mentioned that board members check their emails for updates from Ted so information can be approved in a timely fashion. Ted, also will text or call board members to verify approval if no approval was given through an email. (as decided per February 6th meeting).

Ray will continue composing the individual tournament announcements, which he does in his own inimitable fashion.  He will be emailing these and the follow-up reminders to the general membership as always in a timely manner. The Board noted that he also prepares the Big Score Sheet ahead of time, and at each tournament he compiles results on the fly immediately as score cards come in, thus announcing winners and distributing prizes as early as possible. These duties of course necessitate that he be assigned a starting hole position that maximizes the likelihood that he will be one of the first to finish. Otherwise the departure of all participants would almost certainly be delayed.

 NEW BUSINESS

 Consideration of changes to the Annual Club Championship Competition

This subject had been placed on the agenda as a result of a number of comments offered by the general membership at the close of the December tournament.

John Nering presented a written list of potential changes to the entire process by which the Club determines Club Champions. The list was well thought out and complete, presenting a number of rational individual options for consideration.

Relative to his presentation, the four primary issues clearly were these:

         A)   In recent years competitors for Championships have been separated into two groups based upon age- old and even older. Should we continue in this manner, or is there a more equitable way to separate the competitors into two flights?

         B)  The bylaws declare that club champions shall be determined by Match Play. Should this continue to be the case, or should the bylaws be changed so as to permit Championships to be achieved through some form of Stroke play?

            C) In the past, eligibility to compete for Championships has been based upon a point system, rewarding participation in a tournament (10 points), plus win (5), place (3) and show (1). Obviously the primary objective of this approach has been to reward members for participating in as may tournaments as possible.  Is this the best method to establish the ultimate list of 32 members permitted and committed to participation in the Championship rounds, or would some other system be better?

         D)   This same point system has been used to establish seeds in each flight, the participant with the most points opposed by the participant with the fewest points, etc. Usually in competitions that establish opponents by seed, the player with the strongest net performance is rewarded by being paired against the player with the weakest net performance. Our system does not necessarily achieve this because it emphasizes participation so much more than relative net scoring. Is there a better method to establish seeds, once the 32 qualifiers have been determined?

All of these issues were discussed at length:

 In discussing Issue (A), the Board noted that while there was some correlation between HI and age, there also were some very significant exceptions. Rather quickly it was agreed that separating the Championship completion into two flights based upon Handicap Index rather than age was more likely to result in an enjoyable Championship series for all involved.

 

The board voted unanimously to adopt this new format for the 2016 MPC Championship.

 

Regarding Issue (B)- Match Play versus Stroke Play;

 

A number of valid reasons as to why Stroke Play should be considered were expressed. The primary one was that eliminations are not necessary. Those in the running stay in the running, instead of half of the field being eliminated after the first round.  The primary objection to the use of Stroke play seemed to be that it might result in just a special way of accounting for results within our regular play, deemphasizing the significance of a particular round being played toward the Club Championship.

It was pointed out that our bylaws do specify that Match Play shall be the means by which the Club Champions are determined, and the use of Stroke Play would necessitate a change to the bylaws approved through a vote by the general membership. It was also noted that as a form of play, Match Play is considered just as valid and important as Stroke Play. This fact is in evidence on almost every page of the Rules of Golf, and is validated by the high level of interest in the Ryder Cup, the Presidents Cup, and numerous USGA Amateur competitions. Therefore if the Club’s mandate includes an obligation to educate members in all aspects of the game, some Match Play is of value.  

 

On the other hand the Rules of Golf do not permit any club to conduct a Match Play tournament within a Stroke Play tournament because the rules for each form are so significantly different.  Yet this is what we have been doing, in effect ignoring many of the Match Play rules, thus eliminating the educational experience of true Match Play. Even though this is a conflict the board voted unanimously to continue Match Play within a Stroke Play Tournament as we have done in the past.

 

Issue (C), Eligibility determination- Minimum age of 50 as of the date of the first round remains in effect. It was decided that the use of the current point system to determine the order in which members will be offered the opportunity to complete for Championships should continue, as it does accomplish the primary goal of encouraging participation in all tournaments. However it will be used to establish the entire field of 32 players without respect to flights.  Once the entire field has been set, the field will then be separated in two flights based upon Handicap Index.

 

Issue (D), Establishing seeds- Although all Board members agreed that the established point system was right for Eligibility, and Handicap Index was the best way to split into two flights, still it was not the best way to set seeds once the fields in each flight are set. After some discussion it was agreed that the best way to establish seeds was to use average net score in our tournaments as the basis. In each flight, the player with the lowest average net score will be opposed by the player with the highest average net score. The player with the second lowest average net will be opposed by the player with the second highest average, etc.

 

Returning to Issue (B)- It was decided that for this year at least, Match Play would continue to determine Club Championships. But in order to bring us back into compliance with USGA Rules and to reinforce our educational goals, the tournament encompassing the first round of Championship play will be played under the rules of Match Play, not Stroke Play, by everyone. The pairing of those playing for Championships will be set as described above.  For all of the other players, opponents will be set by matching players as closely as possible based upon their Handicap Index. For this one tournament, our usual method of prize distribution will be suspended. Everyone choosing to participate in prize money walks away with $40 or nothing. He wins against his opponent or he loses.

         1) The $20 wager will be collected by Chuck Devereaux like in all

         tournaments. (as decided per February 6th meeting).

 

To emphasize the educational aspect of this experiment, the Board will precede this tournament with communiques pointing out a number of the unique aspects of Match Play such as conceding putts, conceding holes, order of play, recording of strokes on each hole regardless of concessions such that scores remain valid for posting, etc.

 

In the subsequent three Championship tournaments, play by Championship contenders who have not been eliminated during the first round will revert back to the “Match Play Within Stroke Play” rules as in years past.

All other participants in these next three rounds will resume playing under the usual Stroke Play rules and our regular rules of prize distribution.

 

Because we probably will not be allowed to continue beyond 18 holes for tied matches, tie breaking rules for the first (true) Match round will be a coin flip. This method is approved by the USGA. (decided upon at Feb 6th meeting)

 

All ensuing rounds Tiebreakers will be done as in the past. See by-laws.

 

Also discussed, motion approved and seconded, was that the MPC Handicap will be current Handicap at the time the round is played. This was voted on and passed 4-1.

 

Steve Hill, Chuck Devereaux, Jim Detoskey, and Ted Sonju – Yes

Ray Sandoval Jr. – No (as decided per February 6th meeting)

 

Member/Guest Tournament

This year the second of our Special Events, the Member/Guest tournament, will take place at the Green River Golf Club in Corona on September 8.  As always this tournament offers a nice opportunity to partner up with friends and maybe show off our club to potential members as well.  The Board voted on a menu selection for the traditional banquet. Promises to be a very pleasant affair inside, sit-down, air conditioned, no flies, and desert.

 Most Improved Golfer

The GHIN system was queried and Ray Jr. was the Most Improved Golfer for 2015.

The Board will take appropriate action.

 Revisions to Rules of Golf and Handicap Manual, Effective 1/1/2016

Ray reviewed some of the more significant changes, including a more reasonable approach relative to a ball moving after address, less severe penalty for turning in a wrong score on a hole, prohibition of anchoring, and less severe approach relative to artificial devices such as multi-functional range finders. Also solo rounds shall not be posted. Ted said he would email the general membership some related internet links including a link that permits downloading the entire Rules of Golf document as a PDF file.

Spring Three-Day Resort Tournament

Jim confirmed the fact that we have a brand new location for one of the big favorites among our club events. After many years of good times at Carlton Oaks, changing circumstances led Jim to look at other venues for this event.

It looks like he has found a great one, Sycuan Golf Resort and Casino in El Cajon. Exceptional rooms, two very nice 18 hole courses, stowage of clubs at pro shop, shuttle services, several restaurants in the casino- lots of nice amenities with reasonable rates.

Ray will be sending out all of details in the initial announcement early in February. Everyone will have plenty of time to adjust plans and schedules so they won’t have to miss out on this one. Tentatively, deposits will be due around March 3, with payment-in-full due around April 14.

 Board Position of Chairman (this business was conducted at FEB 6th meeting)

As per our bylaws, our club needs to have the office of Chairman filled. Jim Detoskey, volunteered and was unanimously voted Chairman of the Club. Since Jim cannot hold two offices at one time, Ray Sandoval was voted Tournament Director. Jim and Ray will work together in the future on setting up all tournaments.

Tournament Handicap Rules

Tournament Handicap rule that states that all Golfers with a 35 or 36 Handicap will not get two strokes or “pops” on holes that are Par 3’s and the 17th and 18th handicapped holes on the golf course. They will receive one stroke or “pop”. This issue was discussed, motioned and seconded and approved unanimously by the board.

Victoria Tournament Rules

The board voted on specific rules for the Victoria Tournament in February due to poor conditions members may encounter on the course. Ted will relay these changes on the rules sheets before the tournament. (as decided per February 6th meeting).

(End of NEW BUSINESS)

MEETING ADJOURNED at 11:13 a.m.