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men
are
not
reasonable
they
only
notice
what
is
wrenched
from
their
grasp !
funnily enough
i
seem
to
hate
doing
things
the
same !
51-
54
is
when
the
men
have
died
or
younger
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
not
wrong
in
themselves
and
are
even
rewarding
to a
certain
extent
but
the
fundamental issue
is
the
energy
cost
and
wether
the
time
is
better
spent
doing
something
else !
i
wish
i
could
tell !
angsted
to
eat
i
think
that's
part
of
your
attraction !
you
saw
what
went
into
the
stitch
you
wouldn't
be
removing
posts
would
you ?
just
a
missing
dimension
dogen
ends
where
basho
begins
tho
it
is
mixed
and
cloudy!
you
are
all
breeders
there
are
inherent
on
your
understanding
come
from
all
your
energies
into
self
assertion !
one
of
us
is
right
and
one
of
us
is
wrong
you
breed
and
i
don't
it's
the
way
of
the
world !
i
what
can i say?
dogen mostly misses it to tho not entirely which accounts for his popularity in zen
in actual fact dogen got a much better bead on it towards the end of his life and became much more like basho
ashvaghosha however sees it, that's really different and probably why we are all here !
more
feeding
of
the
i
guess !
so imo “sitting” is not quite right
more like
“ in their attainment there is no relaxation or enjoyment ” which is pretty well a realistic description of what is called enlightenment, which of course is the genius of ashvaghosha's, he keeps turning up this stuff that shows he knows what it's all about !
the point is not
thing
and
say
another ”
in
english !
there
are
millions
like
you
unfortunately
: o (
give
me
two
cents
for
every
twit
who
claims
to
know
something
about
this
on
these
boards/
blogs
and
i'd
be
rich
: o (
cliche
flingers
basically
: o (
the
human
female
constant
mis-
information
they
can't
help
it !
the
illusion
there's
something
to
zen
depends
on
censorship
and
self -
censorship !
people
who
understand
this
business
are
and
far
between !
not
and
close
between !
plenty
of
those
think
they
understand
this
business !
try
and
be
smart
about
life
temper
appetites
with
a
bit
of
discernment !
more
than
any
other
person
martin
luther
was
responsible
for
the
jewish
holocast !
zen
this
whole
art
of
using
the
words
of
others
making
it
appear
you
understand
the
illusion
is
broken
pretty
rapidly
when
you
hear
them
use
their
own
words !
i
think
i
am
prone
to
a
sort
of
absence
seizure
that
gives
me
an
advantage
in
these
matters !
the
true
dharma
eye
case
is
like
the
world
exploding ”
this
is
what
the
zen
enlightenment
experience
is
to
see
that
stitch
being
made
and
the
world
explode/
implode !
and
you
probably
need
to
see
it
several
times
in
your
life
at
least
once
while
being
quite
young
people
claiming
to
this
experience
generally
haven't
seen
it
or
have
seen
something
very
limited !
in
zen
and
buddhist
terms
translation
has
to
come
from
buddha
it's
there
if
you
want
it
but
apparently
most
don't !
because
mahler
is
so
demanding
as
a composer
the
shortfalls
in
the
performances
of
his
works
always
make
it
atonal
and
voynich !
there's
nothing
more
screwing
one
up
about
what
religion
is
some
image of
than
to
be
brought
up
a
catholic !
“i don't avoid people, but if i meet them they are impervious !”
“i avoid people, but if i meet them they are not entirely impervious !”
lol i don't think the zen scene has changed !
john loori has some strengths but understanding zen was not one of them, the nishijima et al version is better !
seated
meditation
takes
too
much
physical
control
to
be
useful
you
really
are
better
to
just
lie
in
bed
by
yourself
and
have
a
think
about
whatever !
seated
meditation
takes
too
much
physical
control
to
be
useful
you
really
are
better
to
just
lie
in
bed
by
yourself
and
think !
most
of
zen
and
particularly
dogen
is
voynichese !
if you want to see what anonymous posting does to a blog , brad warners “harcore zen” comments section is the best example i can think of !
basically it turns a blog into a war zone !
the anonymous posters coat-tail on the efforts of the blog owner !
that aside hiding and concealment reveal a certain mindset which strongly tallies with the specious nonsense that comes forth in these contexts !
most people have some ability to cobble together superficially fine sounding words, the consistency with which we live them is a different matter altogether
impermanence is neither real nor an abstraction but pure voynichese !
how
do
you
get
a
selfish
animal
to
breed ?
make
them
believe
their
children
are
their own !
i'm
a
bit
lost ”
we
always
are
impermanence
permanence
is
this
verbal
wanking?
in
the
end
there
are
limits
to
how
much
women
care
for
men !
not sure u understand that ; o )
if you don't see it then like the professor in that film you would commit suicide
being “the other side” of suicide is a wonderful place !
sea
sky
sun
stars
streams
Andrew
net
people
and
relationships
empty
and
the
wrong
road ?
net
people
and
relationships
empty
and
the
wrong
road !
thats a better film (ed. “the sunset limited” compared to the execrable “death be not proud” !) but still its a bit contained, sorta rambling
its public entertainment so it pulls its punches
easy to waste a life on that sort of thing some do!
the only reason can be because they are ashamed of what they write !
“ if there is no-one there is some position! ”
verbal rubbish by the truck load !
we
aim
to
be
happy
but
happiness
is
not
complete
therefore
there
is
and
grief
the
voynich
nature
of
reality
you
sorta
create
something
out
of
nothing
good
bad
indifferent
uninteresting !
softwared !
are
more
than
heat !
it's
sorta
difficult
to
understand
but
the
writing
is
a
breaking
free
of
zen
because
then
you
are
an
author
with
your
own
work
and
not
dependent
on
the
organization !
that
is
you
are
not
dependent
on
the
organizations
memory
and
ability
to
carry
information
(with
it's
inherent
self
serving
distortions)
forward !
the
cave
painters
knew
this !
jesus
is
the
open
heart
to
listen
it's
more
than
the
historical
person !
there's
plenty
more
to
christianity
than
jesus
the
stuff
about
jesus
is
just
plain
stupid !
if
the
truth
be
known
ascetics
don't
find
that
life
so
hard !
if
the
truth
be
known
ascetics
don't
find
that
sort
of
life
so
hard !
i
really
think
there's
nothing
more
precious
than
a
deep
sleep !
i
really
think
there's
nothing
more
precious
than
a
decent
sleep !
stalin
a
smarter
robespierre !
mahler
there
seems
to
be
hardly
anyone
who
can
play
or
sing
him
satisfactorily
these
days !
just
missing
something !
a
culture
wide
loss
of
musical
intelligence ?
women
men
can't
control
them
it's
hard
to
accept
that !
nicholas the
was
most
unfitted
to
be
ruler
of
russia !
a very interesting original print that shows the Dürer/Brant ship of fools that is so similar to bosch's painting !
four tenths the way down “ Hunterian Bn.3.9 Folio 1r opening page ”
better pic, you can see bosch's version
is almost like a satire of dürer's
a
good
page
of
prints !
with
sebastian brant's aphorisms !
if
you
look
at
the
real
physicists
they
are
much
more
open
minded
about
the
ultimate
nature's
of
realities
than
if
you
look
at
the
real
physicists
they
are
much
more
open
minded
about
the
ultimate
natures
of
realities
than
john
is
or
was
a
good
voynicher
it's
just
sort
of
an
empty
bullshit
it
fools
people
while
you
can
and
are
able
to
sustain
the
illusion
that
is
people
don't
know
you
that
well
and
your
brain
is
up
to
supporting
tangled
web !
which
has
an
appearance
but
no
underlying
reality !
straight voynich as befits some-one so frightened of being themselves they have to post anonymously !
sometimes
things
are
just
bad
combinations !
my
view
of
translation
is
that
if
you
can
get
a
fair
portion
of
the
sense
of
what
is
said
that
is
enough
even
amazing !
cohen
by
zen !
i
get
suckered
into
other
people's
viewpoints
all
the
time
of
normality ! ”
either
it's
an
illusion
or
not
and
you
will
have
a
good
idea
in
ten
years !
the
ravages
of
age
i
look
at
my
face
in
the
webcam
54
years
have
snuck
up
on
me
and
it
shows !
you
can
spend
your
life
arguing
with
fools
!
writing
voynich
stringing
words
together
so
they
sound
like
they
might
make
sense !
but
of
course
there's
no
inner
consistency
except
the
desire
to
conceal
and
stupidity !
they
don't
have
their
own
work !
they
are
caught
in
a
madhouse
at
each
other !
if
you
look
at
mao's
poems
he
was
abit
of
a
nutter
like
stalin
very
intelligent
but
pyschotic !
i
think
the
basic
problem
is
that
you
are
pursuing
the
illusion
of
a
normal
life
well
there
is
none
one
is
vulnerable
and
surrounded
by
predators !
life
is
just
a
blurry
mess
until
we
die
i
wouldn't
be
so
hard
on
yourself !
the
mistakes
are
endless !
life
is
just
a
blurry
mess
until
we
die
i
wouldn't
be
so
hard
on
yourself !
my reading is that dogs are genetically descended from wolves, but wolves are fascinatingly human with a huge degree of learning as cubs
karl
marx
how
could
a
man
who
caused
so
much
trouble
have
such
a
peaceable
grave ?
so intially it was peaceable rather then the angry expression of aggression it now seems to be.
always
said
he
was
never
a
marxist
so
the
blame
cannot
be
entirely
laid
at
his
door !
karl
marx
how
could
a
man
who
caused
so
much
trouble
have
such
a
peaceable
grave ?
it's
pretty
horrific
to
be
young
and
it's
pretty
horrific
to
be
old
the
mistake
of
neo-
advaita
is
it
is
minimal
beyond
what
can
function !
any-
one
who
would
call
themselves
zen
master
got
the
slightest
clue
what
it
is
about !
why
should
i
be
trying
to
persuade
you
to
act
in
your
own
best
interests !
you
are
trying
to
save
the
world
and
you
need
to
save
yourself !
you
don't
fit
any
mould
nanda
doesn't
fit
any
either
brother
to
the
buddha
mould
husband
mould
ascetic
mould
disciple
mould !
you
don't
fit
any
mould
nanda
doesn't
fit
any
either
buddha
mould
husband
mould
ascetic
mould !
there's
always
as
far
to
go
as
you've
come
and
sometimes
recent
changes
can
be
quite
radical !
it is to your credit that you didn't fit the mould, i hope you can see this !
always
end
up
impaired
in
health
and
insane
to
some
degree !
wouldn't
being
chosen
make
anyone
insane ?
i
probably
don't
need
to
be
commercially
successful
so
i
probably
won't
be !
the
male
female
paradigm
is
this
the
female
puts
up
with
all
sorts
of
in
her
view
crap
provided
the
male
does
her
bidding !
all
sorts
of
problems
ensue
when
the
male
doesn't
do
her
bidding
or
is
incompetent !
the
male
female
paradigm
is
this
the
female
puts
up
with
all
sorts
of
in
her
view
crap
male
does
her
bidding !
men
kill
men
easy
a
s
flies
dream
about
it
anyway
when
some-
one
dies
you're
supposed
to
pretend
never
existed !
the
writing
thing
has
become
completely
consuming !
like
migraine
actually !
the
writing
thing
has
become
completely
consuming !
when
you
are
ill
all
you
can
do
is
lie
there
you
just
can't
move !
absolute
frigging
nonsense !
as
are
all
lived
lives
on
any
story
book
character !
the
male
dream
to
deliver
death
males
casually !
john
loori
was
schizophrenic
he
got
rid
of
anyone
who
didn't
go
along
with
his
egocentric
delusions !
zen
mountain
monastery
you
who
have
lived
in
his
shadow
so
long
have
some
unwinding
to
do !
a
cult
leader
with
an
unsubtle
cult
following
in
a
way
toni
packer
was
the
same
but
i
don't
feel
it
was
unhealthy!
maybe
it
was ?
it's amazing what pops out of nowhere !
john
loori
was
schizophrenic
he
got
rid
of
anyone
who
didn't
go
along
with
his
egocentric
delusions !
zen
mountain
monastery
you
who
have
lived
in
his
shadow
so
long
have
some
unwinding
to
do !
a
cult
leader
with
a
subtle
cult !
isn't
it
fascinating
the
way
w
e
can
treat
the
completely
fabricated
as
real !
john
loori
was
schizophrenic
he
got
rid
of
anyone
who
didn't
go
along
with
his
delusions !
frigging
nonsense !
it's
like
we
are
separate
universes
around
one
universe
some
universes
may
be
less
themselves
more
dissolving
and
more
in
alignment
or
identity
with
the
one
true
universe !
it's
like
we
are
separate
universes
around
one
universe
some
universes
may
be
less
themselves
and
more
in
alignment
or
identity
with
the
one
true
universe !
women
it's
just
not
in
them
to
give
in !
however
reasonable
that
might
seem !
women
it's
just
not
in
them
to
give
in !
male
and
female
are
commodities
to
each
other
i
wouldn't
say
the
same
for
parents
to
children !
i
think
you
are
trying
to
recreate
adolescent
mindset
is
mid
life not the early twenties
flat
and
stale
comes
to
mind !
why
make
enemies
when
you
can
make
friends ?
famous
last
words
think
you
continue
you ?”
there's
only
one
thing
worse
than
failure
and
that's
being
a
success
people
want
what
you've
got
or
you
and
rip
you
to
pieces
to
get
it!
so
i guess
success
is
cyclical
when it arrives
it
slowly
destroys
it's
incumbents
not
the
least
because
they
slowly
lose
touch
with
the
world !
people
live
and
breed
as
as
cats
a fight
a
symbiont
stretching
its
legs
its
claws
you
really
have
to
understand
why
you
write
it's
not
for
applause
or
to
facilitate
other's
understanding
of
life
whatever
to
extend
your
memory !
you
really
have
trouble
seeing
any
viewpoint
except
your
own
i
see my viewpoint
then
i
see
yours
then
i
have
to
see
both
viewpoints
in
context
which
often
how
things
settle
to
be !
the
philosophy
of
zero
sum
it's
called
life
the
philosophy
of
zero
sum
it's
called
life
hill
one
world
tower
functional
both
insane
man's
pressing
himself
against
the
complete
universe !
you
are
creating
something
out
of
it
returns
to
see
everything
as
a
of
yourself !
you
are
creating
something
out
of
it
returns
to
can't
tell
the
difference
between
dream
and
reality !
silbury
blurring
you
can't
tell
the
difference
between
a
dream
and
reality !
sometimes
you
are
told
something
but
what
do
you
hear ?
not
to
take
it
personally !
sometimes
you
are
told
something
but
what
do
you
hear ?
to
take
it
personally !
a
symbiont
may
make
a
gut
rumble
occasionally
but
they
know
when
they
are
better
off !
a
man
may
watch
a
flower
coming
but
see
a
flower
going !
a
man
may
see
a
flower
coming
but
hear
a
flower
going