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Sleepless in Fulham: Rambling and gambling by David Young
Tuesday, 11 July 2006
Who armed Saddam?
Topic: Politics
I went to a comedy gig on Friday last week with Jo Haslam, Steve Bartley, Steve Bennett, Dom Sutton and Peter Birks. I had no idea you could pay a mere tenner to see decent acts (Jeff Green and Rich Hall) test run their Edinburgh material. It's weird paying money to be a guinea pig but it was entertaining and that's all that counts. The club was packed - a clear sign that the comedy market is a healthy one. And coming in the same week that Jim Davidson declared banktuptcy, it's matured too.

Pete wrote about the gig the next day on his site and in the course of his 'review' mentioned something I'd said about the political tone of most comedy being slanted to the left. Using an example of something that Rich Hall had said I wrote back:

I did enjoy Hall's act very much. His delivery is excellent. But when for instance he says things like 'The rest of the world is looking at America in Iraq and thinking "what the fuck are you doing?", is it too much to hope for that he could mention that one reason for this is that much of the outside world was selling Saddam weapons and that they were furious at America for deposing a major creditor? Of course it is. No comedian ever approaches it from that angle. But it would make a refreshing change for me.

Someone named 'geoffchall' replied the rest of the world is 'looking at America in Iraq and thinking "what the fuck are you doing?"'and one of the reasons is that America spent so many years selling weapons to Saddam only to then have them fired back at themselves.'

It reminded me of something I'd forgotten. That many people think that the US was a major arms supplier to Iraq. It's not true. Scott Burgess of the Daily Ablution shows the real figures:

Who Armed Saddam?

For a breakdown of what the US did sell him, see the list at the bottom of this page:

_ DY at 9:16 PM BST
Updated: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 9:33 PM BST
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Wednesday, 12 July 2006 - 6:13 PM BST

Name: "Baby Jane"

Thanks for having a pop at me on Gutshot Haters. As usual its your normal nonsense about how it was all better it the old days. Sorry Mr Young, people like me, in FACT far more like me than like you. Your Friends all continue to post, so you are left to vent your spleen to the Evil haters, its kind of ironic you chose that place after all they have said about people you like. I'm sure all 30 or so people who read it will care greatly.

I agree about the new look forum, horrid, I would rather look at Evil Engels mush. I will join you in a flounce.






Friday, 14 July 2006 - 2:22 AM BST

Name: overlay_uk3
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It was pointed out to me that there was a post titled 'DY gives up any pretence ....' In it, someone apologises for typing DY instead of DL, but I thought it bore restating since amazingly, some people think you and I are one and the same. Since many people think you've destroyed the forum (not just me by a long chalk), I went on to defend David Lloyd from the suggestion that he's you. Most people would say that I was doing him a favour.

I make no apology for stating that it was better in the old days. Allan Engel and I were on instant messenger the other day digging up stuff from 18m-2yrs ago and were laughing our lungs out. There is absolutely no comparison.  There were also some decent discussions about poker topics, other than just hand histories. I got real pleasure from re-reading the old stuff. Of course it helps to have some 'insider knowledge', like the fact that Adrian Challis used to live with Pedro for instance, but even so, the relevant gag is still funnier once that's been explained than some crap about pocket kings being the Kray twins or a non-existent American promising to beat up 'brit fags'.

I blame you for much of the deterioration, along with someone called 'frank' who's mercifully disappeared. When people who've taken trouble to think up something interesting or funny get insulted in return, they cut down. Dom Sutton still writes short pieces concerning football, but nothing like the good old 'Anres Baiget' stuff about Moldova.

This will be the topic of my next post, I think!


Friday, 14 July 2006 - 6:34 PM BST

Name: "Baby Jane"

So you and Evil had a good laugh, pleased for you. The worst time at the forum was when you were paid, the second worst was when Evil played silly buggers and was caught. A fine pair you make.

Why even grace that place with your words? Gutshot still rocks(if they sort there white on black out), Baby rocks more than ever, thats the real problem for both you and The Evil One.






Tuesday, 18 July 2006 - 9:29 PM BST

Name: "Michael Berg"

Your scum DY. You are no good scum. You give us Jews a bad name. The Zionists might control the world at the moment but when China takes over this planet your fucked.

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