Monday, 17 August 2009 - 10:05 PM BST

I would be more impressed if he were unashamedly homosexual and living in Gaza or the West Bank.

But you Liberals need to score points where you can.

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 11:48 AM BST

I can’t see the funny part of this blog. I don’t find his comments/jokes about the Khazuk and arses funny. What is sad is that he expects to find intellegent persons among people who believe that Israel is the “HOMELAND OF THE JEWS”.

How can a religious sect have a “HOMELAND”? Since when did God, IF SUCH AN ENTITY EXISTS, become an “ESTATE AGENT”. Will Israel become my “HOMELAND” if I convert to Judaism? Israel is founded on racist concepts and every intelligent and decent person should condemn its existence.

Sadly, all politicians in the “Civilised Western Democracies” believe in the right of a religious sect to have a HOMELAND even if it means the real natives of that land are evicted and are forced to live as refugees. These “civilised” politicians have turned the Middle East into the battle ground of the “War for God” between the very dangerous Moslem fundamentalist and the even more dangerous Jewish and American Christian fundamentalists. Their bigotry has nurtured and unleashed evils they don’t understand.   

The Arab-Israeli conflict is not a joke. It is a very serious problem which must be resolved by abandoning the racist and abhorrent idea of a “HOMELAND FOR THE JEWS” or any other religious sect. The proposed two state solution will never work. You only have to look at the map to realize that a two state solution will create a prison for the Palestinians in the West bank or the Gaza strip. This solution is a disaster waiting to happen. And sadly when it does happen we, or our grandchildren, will suffer its consequences.

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 2:01 PM BST

Rubbish!

What was the Kingdom of Israel, Judea and now Israel just happens to be populated with a Jewish majority.

Most Jews don't live in Israel so enough of YOUR racist bigotry.

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 5:50 PM BST

Clever Mr/Mrs anonymous asks

” What was the Kingdom of Israel, Judea and now Israel just happens to be populated with a Jewish majority”

He/she is so intelligent that he/she suggests that we should go back to the political map of 3000 years ago when there was “The Kingdom of Israel” and Palestine was called Judea. (Why choose that far back. About 1500 years ago Iraq was part of Persia. I wonder should the current Islamic republic file a claim to annex Iraq.) Moreover he/she thinks that Judaism is a race and not a religion and therefore people who believe in the Jewish faith are entitled to a nation.

Can I become a member of the Jewish faith? The answer must be a definite yes because Judaism is a religion. And when I become a member of the “chosen few” will I have a HOMELAND in Israel as well as the right to acquire a piece of Palestine, oops sorry I mean “Judea”, by evicting a Palestinian out of his land? What a ridiculous and twisted way of thinking?

Mr/Mrs/Miss anonymous, religion is a matter of spiritual belief. It must never be linked to race, nationhood or politics. It must remain a personal matter because you either believe in a supernatural power called God/Allah or you don’t. I DON’T. What is more a person’s religion is an accident of birth. When you were conceived when your Dad was having his evil way with your Mum, nobody presented you with a menu that would enable you to choose your race, colour, religion, country…etc.

Therefore, to believe that a religious sect has the right to have a HOMELAND is

a-                          BALSPHEMOUS, BECAUSE YOU ARE ACCUSING GOD OF BEING A RACIST, IF YOU HAPPEN TO BELIVE IN GOD

b-                         RACIST, BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE CHOSEN FEW.

Now who is the racist bigot you WANKER!!

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 6:08 PM BST

To take the above points on board:

To "Anon": Of course the blog would be more impressive if he lived in 'Palestine' instead of Canada. It would also be a lot shorter as he would be murdered before he got very far.　

To Mahmoud: I'm not sure that Nizo 'expects to find intelligent persons among people who believe that Israel is the "HOMELAND OF THE JEWS"'. To the extent that he accepts Israel's existence at all, it's due to weary resignation rather than enthusiam for a Jewish homeland. For instance, in this post:

http://nizos.blogspot.com/2009/04/thank-you-saddam-for-hitting-tel-aviv.html

he describes being excited at news of Scud missiles hitting Tel-Aviv.

I like the sound of this binational state you describe. Alas the experience of Rwanda, Lebanon and Yugoslavia makes me fear that sometimes people just can't get along. Think of episodes like this from 1941:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud

What did the jews of Iraq do to deserve that? What did Libya's jews do to deserve the pogrom of November 1945?;

http://books.google.com/books?id=EezZmLdspO4C&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=1945+pogrom+libya&source=bl&ots=q7gIvmhUGd&sig=H0CuzJKpQyKW_tqNJV41NiXA9ZQ&hl=en&ei=T96KSseeNpOqmgP358lt&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

What did the jews of Hebron do to deserve this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_Massacre

Isn't it understandable that they would no longer want to be a minority in other countries?

Wouldn't the Kurds have been better off if they'd had their own Kurdistan after World War One, as they were initially promised? Would atrocities like 'Al Anfal' have taken place? Population transfer may sound evil, but perhaps it could be the lesser of two evils? Do we all have a 'human right' to live on the same patch of earth that our grandparents did? Does this right count for more than other considerations?

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 8:31 PM BST

Where does this term 'Palestinian' even come from? And who are these 'Palestinians'? Please answer those question.

Israel was on that land FIRST.

Every single  bloody place on the place on the planet where there are Muslims, they are fighting with their neighbour and screaming about how they have had something taken from them. 

It says in the Bible that they (son of Ishmael) will always be fighting with people.

The Palestinians are guilty of war crimes. They fire rockets into Israel and kill civilians (crime number 1) then they hide behind civilians (crime number 2) so they can moan and play the victim card when Israel reacts. Israel could carpet bomb the 'Palestinians' (whoever the 'Palestinians' are) but instead send in troops to ferret out the terrorist cowards. They do this at the cost of Israeli life.

Mahmood, sorry to dissapoint you, but another holocaust is not going to happen. They Jews are not going back to the concentration camps, and they are sure as hell not without me having done something.

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 8:54 PM BST

James, while I'm not disagreeing with all you say, I must raise a few points:

1) Not all Palestinians are muslim. There are some who are Christian, though it's a declining proportion.

2) You can't get far citing biblical prediction.

3) I don't actually think Mahmood wants jews placed in concentration camps. In face I'm sure he doesn't.

4) Can you cite evidence that there were glad when the Kurds were gassed? I can't see why.

There's much we can all learn about the conflict and we can throw dates back and forth, but all that matters in the long run is HUMAN rights and freedoms. As I said before, that includes land rights for Palestinians, but that's not the whole story. It's always better to stand for human rights than to just pick sides in a land dispute.

That said, I do share your frustration with some Palestinian behaviour. I don't know how Israel is supposed to make peace with people who've voted for a Political Pary (HAMAS) that actually thinks the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real. In ten minutes online you can find out that it's a fraud.

Tuesday, 18 August 2009 - 9:31 PM BST

David,

1) I am aware that there are Christian Palestinians. My point is that these people were called 'Phillistines'. This 'Palestinian' term was used by the Romans and applied to the region. This was due to the racism towards Jews and for their oppression. This was after the conquered land of Judea.

2) That is probably true but we all have our beliefs. I have read the Bible and believe it makes A LOT of sense. I usually find the most hateful people against religion are people who have never bothered themselves  to read the Bible/Torah/Qur'an etc. Religion is another debate and as you point out, we should concentrate on human rights.

3) While this may be true the people behind the anti-Israel propaganda are racist Nazis or Muslim fundamentalists. I have to admit that they have done a good job is fooling plenty of people. The left-wingers generally buy into it without having any decent knowledge on the history or mentality of people in the Middle East.

To quote the great Dr. Martin Luther King:

 'You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth'.

And it is oh so true!!

4) I was actually having this discussion yesterday with a good friend of mine. Her boyfriend is Iraqi Kurd and one of the nicest calmest people you could EVER meet. Some of his family were gassed. We had an indepth discussion about it. I admitted that I felt part of the blame was on America for not helping the Kurds after they were encouraged to uprise. After what he has been through, he is actually not biased and has no hate. He explained that the Palestinians were so pro Saddam that they loved him for gassing the Kurds. I am sure I can find a reliable source that is fair and balanced on this issue, somewhere on the net.

The bottom line is that people love the blame Israel. Love to blame the Jew. The reality is that Israel is not to blame for the mess certain people are in. Look at the lovely corrupt Yasser Arafat!!

Wednesday, 19 August 2009 - 9:57 AM BST

The fact that the gay blogger has to live outside of his supposed all-inclusive loving caring all-inclusive homeland says all I need to know about that particular branch of Arabs.

For once I find agreement with Mr Feeny.

There is no such thing as Palestine. Nor Syria, Lebanon etc. The list is almopst endless. These political entities were created by successive acts of imperial meddling by Romans, Ottomans, Arabs, English and French people. So-called Palestinians are Arabs and there is more than enough Arab living space for them to live in.

So-called Palestininas have been used by their so-called Arab brothers for decades. Keeping them hemmed in against the Israel border in squatter camps rather than integrating their indistinguishable Arab brothers.

This Mahmood fella needs to realise that he has been used all of his life for poltical means. He is an Arab, full stop. Not a Paelstinian, Libyan, Algerian or whatever. He is part of a wave of imperial conquest from centuries past. Only a few parts of his empire have been taken back (Spain, Kingdom of Israel etc.) He should thank his lucky stars that he is not British and hasn't lost 99% of his imperial possessions.

Wednesday, 19 August 2009 - 11:42 AM BST

This argument is becoming ridiculous. I find it insulting to respond to Mr Feeny, anonymous and even you David. But I will post my last response to all your views.

Let us start with some facts first

1-       I am not an Arab. In fact I am a Kurd. Nouraldin, which was my father’s name, is a Kurdish name.

2-      I am not a Moslem. As I stated before I don’t believe in God. If Mr Feeny and anonymous want to believe in the Passover, Exodus and the parting of the Red Sea, the Plagues, Feeding of the 5000 thousand and accept the fact that the omnipotent and omniscient Almighty created us then sent us his son so that we can kill him, I will respect their right to be Retards.

3-      I am not a racist. How can I be a racist when my father is Kurdish, my mother is half Turkish and half Arabic and my wife is English? By the way I’m also British and I’ve got the passport to prove it.

4-      I believe that a person’s religion, race, country of origin….etc are accidents of birth. I judge people by their character and I disapprove of labels like White, Black, Christian, Jewish, Moslem or Marsian.

5-      I know that religion was an important factor in the past. Many good deeds as well as many atrocities were committed in the name of religion many years ago. True, The Kingdom of Israel existed about three thousand years ago. And as anonymous rightly states, the Arabs were not in North Africa, Syria…etc. So should we ask the Arabs to get on their camels and travel back to the deserts of Arabia, and grant the original natives of North Africa the right to nationhood? If we go back to the political map of that period there will be utter chaos. As said before Iraq was part of Persia. About 1500 years ago Turkey was ruled by the Romans.

6-      It is a sad fact that minorities in every country suffer from discrimination. To say that their plight entitles them to have their own state is ridiculous. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I’m surprised that David can be so naïve.

I’m not concerned about the wrights and wrongs of Hamas,Hisb-Allah, or the Israelis recent actions. In fact I reject and despise the religious ideologies of all of the above. However, since we were born in the twentieth century and are living in the 21^st century, I asked the following simple questions- How can a religious sect have a “HOMELAND”? Since when did God, IF SUCH AN ENTITY EXISTS, become an “ESTATE AGENT”. Will Israel become my “HOMELAND” if I convert to Judaism?

I am still waiting for an answer from Mr Feeny, anonymous and you David. Anybody with little grey matter between their ears will realize that Israel is founded on racist grounds. History has shown that racist states cannot live in peace with their neighbours. There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as the Jewish immigrants of Israel think it is their God given right to be there. This is a simple but very sad fact.

Wednesday, 19 August 2009 - 6:50 PM BST

I don't recollect the Kingdom of Israel being set up in 1020 BC as a racist entity. Indeed, it was a coming together of Israelite tribes to protect themselves from the racist idiots surrounding them. Sounds familiar.

Wednesday, 19 August 2009 - 6:56 PM BST

We could take Mahmood's no return to historical borders (Kingdom of Israel) suggestion ourselves by suggesting that we leave the "Palestinian Question" long engough so that it will become history too.

A few weeks ago the First World War became history for the UK when our last veteran died. In time, the 1919 Mandate of Paelestine will become history when the last inhabitant of that manufactured nation dies and we can happily forget all about it.

Wednesday, 19 August 2009 - 10:22 PM BST

Wednesday, 19 August 2009 - 10:28 PM BST

"while those countries are ALL indeed recent creations, they are no less artificial than Israel."

I meant to say they're ALL artificial and Israel is the most artificial entity of all. 

ok, back to the pork chops..

Saturday, 22 August 2009 - 10:43 AM BST

Come on David, suck up to the queer.

Plenty of liberal points to score.

You are on the extreme left of the Conservative party and frankly you are unwanted.

However, you appear to have a new career as a gay icon.

Saturday, 22 August 2009 - 11:30 AM BST

Wow. I go to Switzerland for a holiday and take a break from the net and all hell breaks loose while I am away!

If that really is NIZO writing in, then I am honoured he took the time to reply. I should stress that I have never boasted about the IQ of the people who read my site. Indeed I have often despaired. I don't know who half of them are ... thank heavens.

It is tiring and expensive to compose a meaningful contribution in a Swiss internet cafe so I will leave it there. More later.

Sunday, 23 August 2009 - 2:34 AM BST

David, 

It is me.. the real me, and I'm taking a break from watching a Golden Girls re-run to respond. 

My condolences for the Switzerland visit,  I have narrowly survived death via boredom in that God-foresaken place. 

Sunday, 23 August 2009 - 4:21 PM BST

Good old western democracy.

First we export our vile culture, send in the army and then insist on running your country our way.

Of course, we expect our democracy to give the result we want.

Hence intimidation and rigging in Afghanistan to ensure that the US/UK's puppet returns to power.

US/UK say, "A little naughtiness but we have our man."

Come friendly airliners, fall on the west!

Friday, 28 August 2009 - 10:33 AM BST

Let's sum up.

Palestine came before modern Israel. However, the Kingdom of Israel came before Palestine.

"Ah!" say the Palestinians, "but the Kingdom of Israel was a long time ago."

Well, let's wait a long time and make Palestine history too.

Frankly, I hate Muslims and another medieval barbaric Muslim nation added to the list of other failed Muslim nations is not on my list of priorities.

When Islam is dead and burried then I might give Arabs the time of day.

Anti-zionist is Anti-semite in sheep's clothing.

Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 2:58 PM BST

Wednesday, 2 September 2009 - 7:54 PM BST

'Anonymous'  we need to look at the solution for peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. This is the only way the sitiation will ever be resolved.

Why don't you try to contribute something to the debate?

I believe withdrawing to the 67 borders will be seen as weakness and more propaganda will flow through the Muslim world. Your thoughts on this? Will this achieve peace? What are your thoughts on the Iranian influence with Hamas-Hezbollah?

I openly admit that I think the solution is a two state solution. This is where the trouble starts and I do not know how to proceed from here (maybe you can explain). How do you engage in peace with people who when they were children, were brainwashed to hate and kill Jews? This is why I have no solution.

Although athiest's etc hate people quoting the Bible, Qu'ran etc, I will here (as it applies). This is a biblical story where the people have been at war with each other since the Bible. Only God knows how this story ends.

Now, we could take another approach and should always strive to. We must strive for peace. This is why I would love to hear your solution. 

Thursday, 3 September 2009 - 2:25 PM BST

Thursday, 10 September 2009 - 9:26 AM BST

Since 911 a day has not gone by when the television is not spouting Muslim propaganda, be it news or a documentary.

Liberals like David are allowing Islam to thrive in the west by constantly referring to it. David would do his nation a better service by ignoring Islam forever more.

It is as if this is the 1940s and we are allowing Nazis into the UK to live and to continue behaving like Nazis.

Islam is another thorn in the side of western civilisation, just like communism and Nazism before it.

For our civilisation to survive we need to treat Islam as we have always treated our enemies.

As another person said, "Radical Islam does the dirty work for Islam."  We need to stop looking at Islam with rose tinted spectacles and treat it for what it is, an alien way of life that threatens our way of life.

Friday, 11 September 2009 - 9:16 AM BST

Another reason why David's daft liberal ideas won't work in Afghanistan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/8248101.stm

He has no real idea about who he is fighting or why. Those he thinks are allies are foes and vice-versa. Karzai is a crook and straight after David's "victory", NATO will leave and the Taliban will be reinstalled because that is what the people really want.

Forget what the liberals say on TV. That is what they would like. The reality is somewhat different. David needs to start listening to real people and not the middle-class white liberal voice inside his head.

Friday, 11 September 2009 - 8:13 PM BST

This is your country, David.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/england/london/8251598.stm

You can either stop your liberal ways, believing that we can live with Islam, or stand up and fight for a better Europe.

I am not a Nazi. I hate Hitler. Without him polluting history we would not have the limp wristed liberal Europe we have today.

Thursday, 22 October 2009 - 7:19 PM BST

Well on the subject of Islam, this is 100% TRUE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rBG-pIuiWw&feature=related

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