Dear CES Sisters,
We welcome a new corresponding editrix this month. Becky Edwards joins the staff of The Wild Rose of the Chesapeake with a thought-provoking piece on crossdressing and Christian ministry.

Have you been wondering what the programs will be in the coming months? Check out the minutes of our May 19, 2001 meeting. Rebecca has listed the programs the Executive Committee is planning for the next several months. This month's program will be presented by your faithful Editrix. I'm presenting a program on Going Out in Public I think you will enjoy. It's based on my experiences of presenting a feminine image in public places over the last few years. Some of the tips we will cover are: where to go, personal security, creating a passable image, and managing the bathroom issue.

This newsletter is a labor of love for each of our contributing editrixes. Please join the staff by submitting your own insights into the world of crossdressing. You can send your input to RRBoyd@aol.com, or R. R. Boyd, P.O. Box 2252, Ashburn, VA 20146-9152.

Rachel Rene Boyd
Newsletter Editrix

Executive Committee Announces 2001 Schedule

The Chi Epsilon Sigma regular meetings will be held on the following Saturdays in 2001. Please note that the July 28th meeting will be a non-dressing event to express our appreciation to our spouses and S.O.s for their understanding and support throughout the year.

January 13
February 17
March 24
April 21
May 19
June 23
July 28 (DRAB)
August 25
September 22
October 27
November 17
December 15

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Chi Epsilon Sigma Executive Committee

Terri Lynn Andrews, Chairperson
terrilynna@hotmail.com

Rebecca Adams, Vice Chairperson
beckyxd@hotmail.com

Grace Gardener, Secretary/Treasurer
grace-gardener@home.com

Yvonne Sullivan, Past Chairperson
yvonne@netrax.net

Donnene Edwards, Spouse Representative
doneene373@aol.com

Mary Alice Barrett, Membership*
zoom@paonline.com

Victoria Frost, Programs Director*
victoriafrost@earthlink.net

Rachel Rene Boyd, Newsletter Editrix*
RRBoyd@aol.com

*Non-voting members

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Minutes of the CES Chapter Meeting May 19, 2001

Because of the Memorial Day Weekend falling over the fourth Saturday of the month, the May meeting was held a week early…and, as we learned, came into conflict with many college graduations, retrieval of kinder from colleges and other hostile locations, and other plans. The result was that while we had excellent responses to the RSVP we sent out, over 75% of the responses were of the "sorry, we can't make it" type. So we had a relatively small number present for the meeting and video. Attending were Terri, Marsha and Doneene, Martha and Leslie, Shana, Mary Alice, Rachel, Ellen, and Rebecca.

Several of us got there early and went to supper at Snyder's--'twas the first such outing for Mary Alice and myself. While butterflies were not on the menu, we were sure we had had some for appetizers because our stomachs were all a flutter! It is nice, though, to have a man open the door for you, which did happen on several occasions coming in and leaving the restaurant. Hopefully this little soirée will become a fixture at future meetings. Maybe we can even get Snyder's to give us a menu break (how about that idea, Marsha?) if we make it a matter of routine so Snyder's can advertise along the lines of "which twin has the Toni?"…Sort of a "which gal is a guy in a dress?" and ensure they have a full house on those Saturday nights.

The meeting started with a social hour about 6:30 and as "guys" drifted in and became "members" we started a series of "can-you-top-this" stories about experiences while out en femme. (Rachel was not allowed to compete based on her latest escapade written up in last month's chapter newsletter…"Guy Hits on Rachel.") It was a difficult decision as to whether to continue telling these stories on ourselves or to start the meeting.

Terri prevailed on us and she very quickly ran through her several points of interest:

1. Program Schedule

a. Rachel will have the program for the next meeting…"Tips on Going Out."

b. Terri will look into a park in the Frederick area for a picnic gathering in July…en drab.

c. Terri will also host a Rummage Sale (AKA "Corset Exchange") at the Chapter meeting in August.

d. We're planning on having Dr. Kate Thomas in September…please get your questions and issues into Rebecca (beckyxd@hotmail.com) as soon as you can so she can forward them to Kate as a means of presenting her with a theme to hit on during her session.

e. October will be a split session. Our Virginia sisters have invited us south to Williamsburg for a Halloween Party. Please contact Terri (terrilynna@hotmail.com) for details, costs, etc. as soon as you can. However, recognizing that not all can make it to Williamsburg, the Chapter will host our own party that weekend. We're looking for volunteers who might be centrally located to host this "Saints Day" for crossdressers. If no one can handle the logistics, we'll host it at the hotel…but there will be a local party!

f. November will also be a split session in that some members want to attend the Erie Gala that weekend before Thanksgiving. For those members not going north (br-r-rr) there will be a November session at the hotel--program not yet defined.

g. December Christmas Party--'tis time for planning and we're looking for volunteers.

h. Rebecca will host the fashion show in January 2002--plan on buying yourself something really nice for Christmas and then come model it in January!

i. Mary Alice is "looking for a few good hobbies" to help participate in a program she's hosting in February--"Besides Crossdressing I Have This Other Hobby…" Please contact her at zoom@paonline.com.

2. Other Points of Interest

a. Our Sister Chapter in Richmond is hosting S.P.I.C.E. in July 2002 and is looking for volunteers to help in the legwork during the session. Once again, please contact Terri for details.

b. It is recognized that no one sister can ever replace the effort that Victoria has put into the Program Chair these past three years. Her efforts have made the Chapter what it is and cannot be duplicated; only imitated. So the Executive Committee has agreed to work together (something new?) and develop the programs on a quarterly basis (see the first entry, a. through i.). We'll be asking specific members in the future to host programs that are of general interest to the membership. The agenda will remain the same--6-7:30 for a social hour, a very short business meeting, the program, and then more socializing…interested wives and SO's free to discuss issues and points as long as they desire in their own private setting.

We then viewed the video "All Dressed Up and No Place to Go." This was a 1996 video and covered the subject matter of heterosexual MTF crossdressing in a very tasteful and direct manner…there were no answers provided…but none were expected. There were several good points made, especially from the wives and SO point of perspective. [My own personal opinion was that this was one area on which the producer could have spent more time. The producer tried to be even handed, but did appear to spend more time on the "flamboyant" individual (a multimillionaire) and his spouse than on others who were more our type (too much month left at the end of the money) of member.] All in all it was a good video and well worth keeping. (It is already out on the Chapter circuit…there's a waiting list so contact Rebecca to get on the list.)

We ended about 10 p.m. after some good discussions on the video and the points it appeared to be making. For those of you who couldn't make the meeting, we're sorry because we would have enjoyed having your input and support to those who were there and you missed a good show…maybe next time!

Respectfully submitted,

Rebecca Adams

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Chi Chapter Web Site Update

We are happy to announce the addition of our second web site address. We were recently able to get it away from the Domain-it company, which was holding it ransom. (P.S. Don't ever register a name through Domain-it.....) We are happy to say we now use www.stargateinc.net for our domain registrations, and are very satisfied.

Our chapter URLS; (Both the same content)

and the Holiday En Femme site, which the chapter will donate to national usage.

Denise Peters

President
Chi Chapter

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Kalina's Corner

by Kalina Mirev

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How Can I Be A Minister And Still Crossdress?

By Becky Edwards

This has been an issue that I had struggled with all of my life. After talking to many people about it, and being told by many people to "take it to the Lord in prayer", I did. This is what God revealed to me.

#1. We do not have any business judging whether a person is or is not a Christian. Only we, ourselves know what is in our hearts, people are quick to point out verses in the Bible about cross-dressing, they are using the Bible not as God had intended. The Bible is to be a guide for us to follow, isn't there a verse in the Bible that says" remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy "? Well this is one of the "Ten Commandments". The Sabbath day is Saturday, not Sunday. When you ask them about this the say that when Jesus came, it made that law obsolete. Therefor many of the other verses no longer apply.

#2. Matters of conscience must be settled before God, not man. Notice that Paul left the matter of the sacredness of certain days an open question (Romans 14:6). Those who observed the special days did it out of loyalty to Christ. Those who felt they could eat all kinds of meat, thanked God for it and ate it

#3. Everything we do affects someone else. We can not escape this principle, and we will spend a lot of time in life learning how to apply it. A Christ-like kindness and consideration for others guide Christian relationships. The great second commandment that Christ gave was that man should love his neighbor as himself. Next to pleasing God, the Christian should be guided by a concern to build up and be a blessing to others, (be kind to one another).

#4. "We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ" (Romans 14:10). That includes us, those who judge others, and those who look down on others, like and you and me! This is always a solemn reminder, but it helps put our treatment of others in perspective. Chances are, it's going to be pretty close to how we would like to be treated ourselves!

#5. It is possible that we can cause harm by our carefree attitudes. This is where care must come into play. Many choices will be made in our lives, but we must be careful not to cause any damage to our loved-ones lives. Love will dictate my choice if it is the only reason I can or cannot do a certain thing. If you have an agreement with your mate on when, where, how, you can dress honor it, if they say they don't want to see it, honor it. If your wife does not want you to touch her clothes, listen to her. This is a simple matter of respect, don't force it on anyone.

#6. We must allow others the privilege of personal conviction that some things are wrong for them. If God has spoken to another about something, which He has not spoken to you about, then it is your responsibility to guard that person's conscience as much as it is your responsibility to guard yours. Any other action is inconsistent with the principle of love.

A very good book that I can recommend is The Cross & The Crossdresser, by Vanessa S. If anyone wants to speak to me about these or any other issues, I will be glad to talk to you.

A little background about myself: married 28 years, 3 children, 3 grandchildren, and I have been pastoring for 25 years.

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Flying En Femme

Like so many things about crossdressing, I can't tell you why I have always wanted to take an airline trip en femme. All I really know is that it's something I have always wanted to do. Talking with other Tri-Ess sisters, it seems many of us have the same fantasy.

Until recently, one of the concerns about flying was the need to present proof of identification to the airline. Thanks to the Rho Tau Chapter, that hurdle has been removed. Rho Tau is offering a Transgender Identification card that shows both your male and female pictures and identifying information. When presented with other identification, like a driver's license, it is sufficient for the airlines to allow you to board. I got my new Transgender ID card recently and just couldn't wait to try it out. (Contact Rho Tau at http://www.transgender.org/rtc/tgid.html for your Transgender ID.)

The opportunity for my adventure came during a business trip to Houston. I had been there on business for several days and "dressed for dinner" each evening. I decided the trip home would be a good opportunity to experience flying as Rachel. The trip would be from Houston to Washington DC, with a change of planes in Chicago. If that wasn't enough, I would be returning my rental car to the airport in Houston, and hiring a cab in DC. Plus I was solo, so I didn't have a friend to rely on if I got into an uncomfortable situation. Rachel was committed to being Rachel all the way home!

I had been in Houston at an internal company meeting. My plan was to simply leave the meeting a little early on the last day and change clothes before heading out to the airport. When the time came, I slipped out and went back to my hotel. After my transformation, I left carried my bags to the rental car, ready to depart for the airport. Then I noticed a run in my pantyhose. Now I certainly couldn't travel all evening looking like that! Fortunately I had a new pair of pantyhose with me. Then I realized I had just locked the hotel room with the key inside. So I had to go to the lobby to request a new key. Of course the desk clerk had to see some identification. I handed her my driver's license and the Transgender ID. She barely glanced at them and gave me a new key. So now I know the Transgender ID serves its intended purpose, even though I was wearing a wig that was quite different from the one on my Transgender ID.

Off to the airport, with a quick stop to refuel the rental car. At the rental car lot, all goes well. The female agent who processes my return has a quizzical look on her face, but nothing untoward.

The rental car bus is crowded. No one seems to be paying any attention to me. But I did notice that the only other lady on the bus sat down next to me. Ever notice how women do seem to sit together in crowded places like buses and waiting rooms? Men do too, but you notice it more with women, as there tends to be fewer women traveling during the business day. This lady sat next to me like it was the natural thing to do.

In the airport, I went up to the counter to check my bag. I told the gate agent my last name, where I was going, and handed her my drivers' license and Transgender ID. She too looks at them only briefly, accepting what she sees without hesitation. She smiles sweetly, hands me my boarding pass and says, "Enjoy your trip." Wow, that was easy!

Then I board the airplane. It is packed, and I'm in a center seat. But I'm prepared for that. I have a romance novel I am planning to read so I won't have to talk to the people around me if I don't want to. It takes forever to work my way down the aisle to the back of the plane. I make eye contact with one or two women who give me a brief disapproving look. But most people are oblivious to my presence.

As I get to the back of the plane, there's someone I know! In fact I see six guys from my company who have also ducked out of our meeting early. I don't know why I didn't anticipate this would happen. I suppose I thought no one else would be leaving as early as I did. You have to be prepared for the unexpected when crossdressed. But seeing these guys didn't cause me any real concern because I know that even my close friends don't recognize me in drag. So I calmly took my seat, and no one was the wiser.

The flight to Chicago was uneventful. I was sandwiched between a rather large lady, and a young man, neither of whom paid me any attention. I was content to read my book.

I changed planes in Chicago. Wouldn't you know it, I had to walk from one concourse to another. Fortunately, I was wearing rather sensible 2½-inch heels, so the 15-minute walk was not a problem. The second flight was less crowded and also uneventful. I finally got to Washington about midnight. I claimed my bag, hailed a cab, and rode home. My wife was already in bed asleep, so I didn't have to explain my adventure to her.

Why did I want to fly en femme? I don't know. Certainly it would have been easier to travel en homme. Part of it, I'm sure, was just the adventure---finding out if I could get away with it. But now I know that I can go pretty much anywhere I want to.

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I Can See Clearly Now

That is a good song title (and song, too, but the lyrics are really not applicable in my case). But it also provides me with a good story.

I definitely need glasses to drive, read, use a computer, etc. but using Robert Samuel Adams' eye-ware when going out as Rebecca Adams doesn't help when it comes to blending. Hadn't realized how "harsh" or "masculine looking" the male-style glasses were until I saw myself dressed as Rebecca and wearing my normal bifocals.

Linda Williams convinced me it was an easy thing to get the proper prescription in feminine frames without any hassle. So I eventually took my prescription to an optical shop and ordered a pair of frames and glasses purely for driving purposes...and a separate pair of reading glasses for use when reading menus, dress sizes, etc. when out dining or shopping as Rebecca. (Don't I wish? Haven't quite gotten to Rachel and Grace's degree of confidence yet.)

The first woman in the optical shop who took my order didn't flinch a bit when I said I wanted a set of feminine frames "to wear when dressed"--my exact words! So we picked out the desired frames, tried 'em on and made the order.

About a week later they came in and I got a call that they were ready. So I stopped by the optical shop in drab and asked for the order. Another clerk, who had not been there when I originally ordered the glasses, went back into the storeroom. I could see her pick up the envelope and start to pull out the glasses and their case. She obviously stopped in mid-step as she pulled this flowered, feminine-styled case out and looked at me! I laughed and said something to the effect that I thought she had the right glasses so "let's see them."

She opened the case and was really startled when she pulled this pair of very obviously feminine frames out. The glasses were indeed the ones I had ordered so I said that the order was right. She looked at me with the most startled look I've seen in quite some time!

So I laughed and said again that the glasses were right, that I was a crossdresser and wore them when going out dressed! She swallowed and said something to the effect that if that's okay with me it was okay with her! I agreed and said, as I tried them on and looked in the mirror for fit, that they were what I wanted! I also said that the important thing was the money--as they were paid for--and she shook her head and said that if I was happy with them, she was too! She finally laughed and I agreed that was indeed the case! Her parting effort was to offer me a less-feminine glass case...as that would undo the entire picture I wanted to project I politely, but firmly, rejected her offer telling her that what I got was exactly what I had wanted and ordered.

As I thanked her and walked out she smiled again and said, "Have fun!" And I said that I would.

I can imagine that she really had something to share with the other clerks and her friends and family and friends that night! But the important thing I think was that she saw me as a stable masculine--read: not effeminate--individual with a sense of humor who was also a crossdresser.

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Goucher College Student's Reaction to Meeting Crossdressers

Nelson Kofie, Assistant Professor of Sociology at Goucher College, Towson, MD, is currently conducting research on the marital experiences of heterosexual crossdressers and their wives or ex-wives. Couples and individuals who are interested in sharing their marriage experiences could contact him at nkofie@goucher.edu, or call him at 1-800-GOUCHER. Two Chi Epsilon Sigma couples recently attended Prof. Kofie's class on Deviance and Social Control. We present about half of the student reactions here. We will publish the remaining student comments next month. Ed.

Dear Friends:
I thank you once again for your willingness to be guest presenters in my class. You provided my students and I with a priceless opportunity to engage in an intellectual feast on a significant, but misunderstood topic within our society--the marital dynamics of heterosexual crossdressing husbands and their wives. Needless to say, it was especially thrilling to have some of the wives account of their personal experiences being married to husbands who are crossdressers. As you know, in depth information on how wives experience and account for their marriages to crossdressers are hard to gather because many wives fear being stigmatized. I really appreciate Chi Epsilon Sigma wives for taking up the challenge to help dispel some of the myths about their marriages to crossdressers.

As you would notice in the following web board "discussions forum," the period we spend with you only whet our appetites to learn more about crossdressing. We spent the class session following your visit pondering, analyzing, and theorizing, only to end up with more questions. I hope the students' personal reflections and commentaries about what they learned (or unlearned) from your presentation serves as a reminder of the significance of your outreach initiative. As usual, your presentation has generated more discussion among students than you could ever imagine. As one student jokingly said to me: "Twenty years from now, we will remember the crossdressers you invited to our class, but not you."

Regards,

Nelson Kofie

Spring, 2001: Deviance and Social Control
Heterosexual Crossdressing Husbands and their Wives

Men as Women
Posted on April 25 2001 at 11:42:06
I have to say that the visit that we had from the crossdressers was very interesting. I feel that reading about crossdressing does not even come close to having the same effect as seeing it firsthand. These women were remarkable. I think that it takes a lot of courage to redefine yourself differently from society and take measures to present yourself in that way. Moreover, these women seemed very confident in their decisions. They did not succumb to the pressures and prejudices of society and maintained their sense of self. I am glad that we were able to meet their wives as well. Those women are extremely understanding and patient. I do not know how I would react if I were in their situation. I feel that their being supportive is helping their husbands/partners to live their lives as they would want to. I especially liked the one wife who would wear her husbands clothing! All in all, I feel that the wives support is what is most influential in their husband's fight to be themselves, or who they feel they should be. I wish that I could have gotten a chance to meet the wives of those additional crossdressers. I would have liked to get a view from a wife who did not support her husband's crossdressing.
All in all, I feel that I learned a lot from this class. I really enjoyed being able to have visitors who were able to speak to their crossdressing aside from our simply reading about it. Nelson, this is why I like your classes so much!

Identity
Posted on April 25 2001 at 11:25:24
I found it quite interesting how the crossdressers assumed different names and then their wives referred to them by those names. I was wondering if the actually took on that role and their wives believed them

Heterosexual Male Crossdressers
Posted on April 25 2001 at 09:19:58
I have always believed that men who chose to wear woman's clothing are influenced by a suppressed homosexual urge, which may be conscious or unconscious. I almost feel that they are thinking," I don't want to be gay," or, "I'm not gay," but still feel the need to act on their feelings. After seeing these crossdressers and speaking to them, I still feel this way, but I see how it may be possible that they are indeed entirely heterosexual. The only problem I had with this is the sisters who have been married for many years and who have only recently told their wives. How is this any different from lying to your spouse about any other subject? I would not be able to accept it if my husband, after a long marriage, told me he was a crossdresser. If one wants to cross- dress, its only fair to tell the spouse before marriage. I for one never want to have to call my husband by a female name, or have to watch as he attempts to change his body type and lose muscle to look more feminine.

Crossdressers
Posted on April 25 2001 at 08:12:18
I was impressed how some of the cross dressers on Friday looked. Although some looked more masculine than others did, all of them tired to "act out" the part, being a women. I believed that in most cases family members would reject their "hobbies" but instead the wives that were there, was understanding and openly accepted their husband's passion. Like Glenn's (Marsha) wife had mentioned, she accepted his passion and was glad because it was like gaining another girlfriend.

Men in Skirts
Posted April 25 2001 at 08:01:48
Ok...So I was freaked out. Not like I have never seen them before, it was just talking to them. To hear their male voice come out of a woman's disguise was just odd. I don't oppose their decision or anything, however, I just don't think it is natural. I remember how Rhonda Hoyman believed that she was a woman trapped inside of a man's body; she did something about it. The cross dresser in the red wig said she only dressed up five times a year. If I loved women's clothing that much, I would dress up all the time.

Strange things
Posted on April 25 2001 at 07:40:55
I talked with my mother about the forum that we had in class, and she brought up a very interesting point to me. Since the men had felt more comfortable when they were 'dressed', would a woman feel more comfortable in men's clothing? And I responded that most women (including myself) feel most comfortable in androgynous clothing that are loose fitting and don't attract any attention to our sexuality. Because women from day to day are evaluated mainly on their sexuality and body type, many wish to escape from that judgement from time to time (or all the time). But the sisters thought that women were not taking full advantage of their sex when they didn't dress up. And for them, wearing women's clothing means to exploit the stereotypes of feminine sexuality. Though they may dress and act more like a woman, once again they are only being the woman that society tells them they should be. They don't want to be an overweight woman, or a hairy woman, they want to be what everyone sees in the magazines and on television. Perhaps these men are missing the point of what it is to be a woman and creating a further stereotype.

Sisters and Wives
Posted April 25 2001 at 06:04:48
I have been thinking about the crossdresser visit a lot, and I guess that what I've been thinking about is why the cross-dressers femme identities and male identities are so bipolar. It seems that the people who came into class cross dressed to satisfy a need or an urge that was related to the way that they felt they had to behave in society when they were men. All of the crossdressers who visited our class said that they had jobs that would be considered 'masculine' (i.e. drag racing, Naval officer...) and it seems to me that this is related to their need to be considered 'feminine' when they are not in drabs. It is almost as though the cross dressers cross dress because they feel trapped in restrictive male identities that do not permit them to show any feminine side.

Presentation reflections
Posted on April 24 2001 at 21:06:27
I found the presentation interesting. I think that it showed how femininity (and masculinity) are very carefully constructed. The cross-dressers would undergo such painstaking measures such as wearing girdles, bras, hair removal, extensive hair and makeup, weight loss, etc. just to look like women. What's interesting is that many women undergo the same processes to look like "women." Clothing, hair, and makeup seem to form a sort of costume for women to wear. Our feelings about clothing are socially constructed. We would probably find it funny to see a man totter around in 3 inch high heels, but wouldn't blink if a woman wore the same shoes. It's not "natural" for either gender to wear a particular kind of clothing. A dress is a piece of cloth. There doesn't seem to be anything about it that is much better suited to the body of a woman. Women contort their bodies to fit into the clothing the same way that crossdressers do.

Re: Presentation reflections
Posted on April 25 2001 at 07:34:04
I really think that Ronald has made a very interesting point. The only thing that makes these men something other than normal is our norms and ideals! In some other cultures, men are the caretakers who do typically feminine things, such as fuss with how they look or gossip.
I was also thinking how perhaps crossdressing is something that is mostly a phenomenon in older men. It seems that perhaps they were from a certain time period where they were raised with the extreme male ideal as their role model. So there was no room for a sensitive heterosexual male in the world that they grew up in. They might have seen women's clothing as a way to express their feminine sides completely. Now that many more norms are being broken today, young men are allowed to be homosexual, or sensitive, or whatever (to a certain degree) and not as many young men find themselves feeling the urge to dress as women. This is not saying that there are no longer transvestites or transsexuals, because I think that is a different matter all together.

Male role models in crossdressers lives
Posted on April 24 2001 at 19:01:07
I just began to think that the cross dressers who spoke about how the got their start cross dressing mentioned that they began doing it because it was available from their sisters "dirty laundry", or their sisters dressing them up. Though I think most of the "sisters" said they had fathers, I am curious to what extent their fathers were around when they were growing up to answer any questions they might have. Even an older brother might possibly decrease the number of cases of crossdressing through more masculine influence. All the "sisters" said they had masculine hobbies, and I remember Rhonda Hoyman in Soc. 106 admitted there was nothing her father could have done. For some reason, I think if the "sisters" were kept away from women's clothes at an early age or taught societal roles early in life that they may not crossdress. But that is just my perspective!

Relationships with a crossdresser
Posted on April 24 2001 at 15:03:10
I think during the discussion in a class an excellent point was raised. These men and women are redefining the social norms of relationships and marriages. None of the individuals were designated as the head of the household. Julie and Yvonne shared turns speaking. They were supportive and often looked at each other for reassurance before completing their thought. When Julie said that Yvonne began to wear women's underwear she did not immediately react to her own feelings and emotions. She said that she knew that Yvonne felt good about herself/himself in women's underwear so Julie asked him to try on a bra. Marsha's wife didn't think anything of Marsha's interest in shoes. These relationships in which the female knows the males secret and supports the male are amazing. Perhaps the fact that the male has shared such a secret leaving him vulnerable breaks the ice in the relationship for the male and female. Women may find this inviting when considering a relationship. The men who kept the secret from their wives for many years seemed less interesting. They are often unable to dress because of their wives feelings. Once again, the question would come back to; "Who wears the pants in the relationship?" In the situation of a females' unsupportiveness I believe there is almost a role-reversal of social norms.

Finally, I have to wonder if once again the men are benefiting in society from crossdressing. All humans seek to find things that make them happy. They search for fulfillment. These men who prefer to dress as women are doing something for themselves. It must be a thrilling thing to do to go against society and find something that makes you feel whole. Women are once again caught behind the men. Supporting the men in their goal for fulfillment. I would like to know the statistics of women who dress as men as opposed to men dressing as women.

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