this is work in progress or homilies or miscellaneous items
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or seem to fit better here
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arthur rimbaud writes
I'm now making myself as scummy as I can
why ?
I want to be a poet, and I'm working at turning myself into a seer
you won't understand any of this, and I'm almost incapable of explaining it to you
the idea is to reach the unknown by the derangement of all the senses
it involves enormous suffering, but one must be strong and be a born poet
it's really not my fault !
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in the end he gave it up and went into business as a
pioneer of the coffee trade in harar, ethiopa !
though his relationship with
verlaine might do that to anyone ! :o)
bodhidharma likely was executed as a member of a power clique at heyin and huike visited brothels ! :o)
it doesn't pay to take the hagiographized version of zen and it's historical people at face value ! :o(
huike for instance , like Socrates may have been a soldier/mercenary and possibly lost his arm in combat and this gets turned into a story about huike presenting his arm to bohidharma
huike also apparently suffered political persecution in his later years !
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the loss of the arm in combat is entirely my speculation, it's really an example of the sort of thing likely to happen, but I was reading about the involvement of huike with shaolin which was an armed monastery and there was some evidence he had been a soldier before that, but you would have to do some searching
bodhidharma and huike are strongly identified with that shangri la of the martial arts , shaolin for which it is better known than zen
china at the time of bodhidharma suffered endless rebellions and warlords contesting for control . . .
I read another account of huike being assassinated by a teacher who lost students to him, huike sounds like he may have been a roving preacher at some stage, he would give public sermons and take up a collection . . .
it's all speculative and what's really surprising is there are any historical records referencing bodhidharma or huike at all !
the seventh patriarch's
unsacred text ! : 0 )
bodhidharma likely was executed as a member of a power clique at heyin and huike visited brothels ! :o)
the seventh patriarch's unsacred text ! :o)
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
“ many people ” is unenlightened !
b e c a u s e t h e y a r e m a n y p e o p l e !
tedjessen writes/claims !
and because I'm just an open person
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in your world, open is called closed and closed open ! :o)
in your world
, open is called
closed and
closed open ! : 0 )
in your world, open is called closed and closed open ! :o)
in your world, open is called closed and closed open ! :o)
: o )
it's all about d y n a m i c b a l a n c e ! : o )
i did tai chi for a year ! :o)
the teacher really was able to throw us around like that !
tai chi takes a lot of work and in the end it wasn't my priority !
: o )
it's all about d y n a m i c b a l a n c e ! : o )
: o )
it's all about d y n a m i c b a l a n c e ! : o )
: o )
it's all about d y n a m i c b a l a n c e ! : o )
: o )
it's all about b a l a n c e ! : o )
ewk, your not being “ enlightened ” will always place you at the bottom of the hierarchy in a system that works around “ enlightened masters ! ”
it really is an issue that not being enlightened you don't understand the insufficiencies of “ studying zen ”
can I put it this way, you don't write like an enlightened person ! : o(
some like you here on reddit zen because you validate the buji viewpoint, but in real life you won't get anywhere !
ewk, your not being “ enlightened ” will always place you at the bottom of the hierarchy in a system that works around “ enlightened masters ! ”
ewk, your not being “ enlightened ” will always place you at the bottom of the hierarchy in a system that works around “ enlightened masters ! ”
ewk, your not being “ enlightened ” will always place you at the bottom of the hierarchy in a system that works around “ enlightened masters ! ”
ewk writes
you appear to be misusing the term buji
my
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buji ‑ zen
“ bravado or excessive self-confidence in the practice of zen
a tendency attributed to some practitioners, particularly in the soto school, to convince themselves that since all beings possess the buddha-nature they are already enlightened and hence have no need to exert themselves further ”
that's you/your branding of zen I am afraid !
n o t s o t o, just another form of intellectual laziness ! :o(
ewk writes
there is no reason for patriarchs anymore
the patriarch system was to insure that somebody had actually studied zen
there were no relatives, just a single guy in a hostile land
my
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“ just a single
guy in a hostile land ”
you do have the odd flash of insight, that's always how it is ! :o(. , ' )
a quote from “ the sutra of the sixth patriarch on the pristine orthodox dharma ”
if we truly practice the dharma, we will not see fault anywhere
if we see the deficiencies of others, our criticisms are in themselves manifestations of our own faults
others may be wrong, but we do not criticize, for if we criticize we are already at fault
my
reply !
if we truly practice the dharma we will see fault everywhere
a good perception of the problems of others is a combination of our own weaknesses and strengths and particularly experience !
when others are wrong we need to be careful in our criticism as the human ego is easily wounded over what is to it's benefit . . .
a quote from “ the sutra of the sixth patriarch on the pristine orthodox dharma ”
if we truly practice the dharma, we will not see fault anywhere
if we see the deficiencies of others, our criticisms are in themselves manifestations of our own faults
others may be wrong, but we do not criticize, for if we criticize we are already at fault
my
reply/contradistinction !
if we truly practice the dharma we will see fault everywhere
a good perception of the problems of others is a combination of our own weaknesses and strengths and particularly experience !
when others are wrong we need to be careful in our criticism as the human ego is easily wounded over what is to it's benefit . . .
zen and religion are full of voynich, something that is basically fake, crafted to look like it has a deeper meaning ! : o )
zen and religion are full of voynich, something that is basically fake, crafted to look like it has a deeper meaning ! : o )
zen and religion are full of voynich, something that is basically fake, crafted to look like it has a deeper meaning ! :o)
zen and religion are full of voynich, something that is basically fake, crafted to look like it has a deeper meaning ! :o)
zen and religion are full of voynich, something that is basically fake, crafted to look like it has a deeper meaning ! :o)
a bodihdharma quote
ed. red pine's translation of “ the zen teaching of bodhidharma ” , page 33
if, as in a dream, you see a light brighter than the sun, your remaining attachments will suddenly come to an end and the nature of reality will be revealed
such an occurrence serves as the basis for enlightenment
but this is something only you know
you can’t explain it to others.
or if, while you’re walking, standing, sitting, or lying in a quiet grove, you see a light, regardless of whether it’s bright or dim, don’t tell others and don’t focus on it.
it’s the light of infinity
my
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wow that is the best summary of what zen is about, I have seen !
a bit garbled, but basically it's the dia kensho experience and what follows !
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that is patriarchal and
not zen master zen !
the glorious lamp of
heaven , the sun
the higher he's a-getting
the sooner will his race be run
and nearer he's to setting
several days ago, maybe three or four, I was just kneeling down with my face pretty much into the seat of the chair like I often do as a sort of “ meditation posture ” that is reasonably comfortable
i'm not sure what happened, I was tired, but suddenly there was this most intense vision of a man in a very impressive uniform/coat, maybe something like the royals in the 1966 alice in wonderland, but not quite like that, maybe not a uniform, who knows, but it very red and the vision was like incredibly detailed, hyper real, more vivid and detailed than any thing in real life . . .
he was very angry at me and sort of railed and gesticulated
I'm sure it's a vision, it had that sorta “ timelessness ”
RED is a very significant colour, sorta an aspect of infinity that requires our effort and I am taking the vision to mean that infinity is unhappy with the way my life is going, all the endless hours into reddit zen and writing in a way I guess, it's hard for me to be critical of what I am doing, but I think reddit zen for instance is turning my writing and attention in a certain direction, less of the pure poetic and more of a certain philosophical fragmentation . . .
well I am certainly thinking about it and perhaps have a better grip on reddit zen . . . .
it is “ buji zen ” , you just can't stop it, there's just new people constantly piling in without any sort of contemplative background and it's just a different road, posturing with verbal bullshit, as rigid as donkeys . . .
well that's because they are . . . ! :o)
but my introduction to zen was through “ the story of the stone//dream of the red chamber ” and weekly zen meditation sits and a sesshin retreat with john loori at the end of the year, very different, there was something real and the origin creates an entirely different trajectory,
the fact is these people on reddit zen come from a different road and can never cross into anything w o r t h w h I l e
anyway the man in the beautiful red coat and clothes is upsetting and a little frightening (infinity can be a b i t c h) so I am . . .
a vision is more real than our paltry reality ! : o )
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! : o )
ewk replies
yeah
lots of people attached to visions believe that
my
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do you see how you deliberately distorted what is said which was “ genuine visions ” to fit your view of the complete invalidity of visions . . .
rather than explore what I wrote in terms of the validity and invalidity of visions you create a quick twist of the subject matter which locks out an open minded exploration of how things might be in fact . . .
this is the laziness of buji zen and posturing . .
in terms of fractals, mandelbrot sets and Julia sets, you are locked into the black areas, continuous regions bounded and never escape to I n f I n I t y
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! : o )
ewk replies
yeah
lots of people attached to visions believe that
my
reply
do you see how you deliberately distorted what is said which was “ genuine visions ” to fit your view of the complete invalidity of visions . . .
rather than explore what I wrote in terms of the validity and invalidity of visions you create a quick twist of the subject matter which locks out an open minded exploration of how things might be in fact . . .
this is the laziness of buji zen and posturing . .
in terms of fractals, mandelbrot sets and Julia sets, you are locked into the black areas, continuous regions bounded and never escape to I n f I n I t y
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! : o )
ewk replies
yeah
lots of people attached to visions believe that
my
reply
do you see how you deliberately distorted what is said which was “ genuine visions ” to fit your view of the complete invalidity of visions . . .
rather than explore what I wrote in terms of the validity and invalidity of visions you create a quick twist of the subject matter which locks out an open minded exploration of how things might be in fact . . .
this is the laziness of buji zen and posturing . .
in terms of fractals, mandelbrot sets and Julia sets, you are locked into the black areas, continuous regions bounded and never escape to I n f I n I t y
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! :o)
ewk replies
yeah
lots of people attached to visions believe that
my
reply
do you see how you deliberately distorted what is said which was “ genuine visions ” to fit your view of the complete invalidity of visions . . .
rather than explore what I wrote in terms of the validity and invalidity of visions you create a quick twist of the subject matter which locks out an open minded exploration of how things might be in fact . . .
this is the laziness of buji zen and posturing . .
in terms of fractals, mandelbrot sets and Julia sets, you are locked into the black areas, continuous regions bounded and never escape to I n f I n I t y
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! :o)
ewk replies
yeah
lots of people attached to visions believe that
my
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do you see how you deliberately distorted what is said which was “ genuine visions ” to fit your view of the complete invalidity of visions . . .
rather than explore what I wrote in terms of the validity and invalidity of visions you create a quick twist of the subject matter which locks out an open minded exploration of how things might be in fact . . .
this is the laziness of buji zen and posturing . .
in terms of fractals, mandelbrot sets and Julia sets, you are locked into the black areas, continuous regions bounded and never escape to I n f I n I t y
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try being uncertain about the role of visions in zen ! :o)
would unhinge your little world wouldn't it !
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
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a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
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a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
:
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a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
:
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a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
:
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a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
:
o
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! :o)
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality ! :o)
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality !
a genuine vision is more real than our paltry reality
buji zen has no answers ! : o )
buji zen has no answers ! : o )
buji zen has no answers ! :o)
buji zen has no answers ! : o )
buji zen has no answers ! : o )
buji zen has no answers ! :o)
so, with one box of books and one pack, i'm off to our secluded retreat center for two years at least
we'll see
I told the farm I'd come back if they ever needed me, but it looks like some apprentices are going to step up and hold it down, and I'm thankful for that, because actually, I'm a little tired from the farm work-my right foot, my left hand, and lower back hide pain under muscle and activity
at night and in the morning, they scream
then they get real and do what needs doing
so I'll be happy to just sit and be on general labor, washing dishes and such, for the first six months at tassajara
my
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this is the huge hidden problem you never see mentioned in the old stories, lives of intense manual labour in the hermitages and monasteries . !
ewk replies
they mention it all the time
my
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well you have to infer it.
like you also have to infer a lot of mental illness !
I never clicked about the manual labour until I saw those videos of modern chinese zen hermits !
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I love ewk's ‘ you cross the bridge then go home to dinner ’
it should be ‘ hobble home to dinner ! ’ : o)
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so, with one box of books and one pack, i'm off to our secluded retreat center for two years at least
we'll see
I told the farm I'd come back if they ever needed me, but it looks like some apprentices are going to step up and hold it down, and I'm thankful for that, because actually, I'm a little tired from the farm work-my right foot, my left hand, and lower back hide pain under muscle and activity
at night and in the morning, they scream
then they get real and do what needs doing
so I'll be happy to just sit and be on general labor, washing dishes and such, for the first six months at tassajara
my
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this is the huge hidden problem you never see mentioned in the old stories, lives of intense manual labour in the hermitages and monasteries . !
so, with one box of books and one pack, i'm off to our secluded retreat center for two years at least
we'll see
I told the farm I'd come back if they ever needed me, but it looks like some apprentices are going to step up and hold it down, and I'm thankful for that, because actually, I'm a little tired from the farm work-my right foot, my left hand, and lower back hide pain under muscle and activity
at night and in the morning, they scream
then they get real and do what needs doing
so I'll be happy to just sit and be on general labor, washing dishes and such, for the first six months at tassajara
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this is the huge hidden problem you never see mentioned in the old stories, lives of intense manual labour in the hermitages and monasteries . !
i feel the
translation is missing something, but russian is hard to translate !
ed. ‘ a body was given to me ’ , 1909 , translation by albert todd
his health never recovered after his first interrogation by the KGB !
beatrix potter had an unusually
competent personal life !
an artifact of celibacy : o ) ?
beatrix potter had an unusually
competent personal life !
an artifact of celibacy : o ) ?
beatrix potter had an unusually
competent personal life !
an artifact of celibacy : o ) ?
beatrix potter had an unusually
competent personal life !
an artifact of celibacy : o) ?
beatrix potter had an unusually
competent personal life !
an artifact of celibacy : o) ?
søren kierkegaard was autistic !
nihilence asks
who diagnosed him ?
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G O D !
søren kierkegaard was autistic !
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søren kierkegaard was autistic !
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søren kierkegaard was autistic !
søren kierkegaard was autistic !
there is an element of being chosen and i have never been able to explain that ! : 0 )
there is an element of being chosen and i have never been able to explain that ! : 0 )
ewk writes
as I said, all you have to teach is that you are the chosen one
that's just the cult of you, that's not zen
my
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there is an element of being chosen and i have never been able to explain that ! : o )
there is an element of being chosen and i have never been able to explain that ! : o )
well as the 7th patriarch I give the lineage a modern meaning and relevance ! :o)
when one is enlightened one creates the texts that are studied, not the proxies ! :o)
well as the 7th patriarch I give the lineage a modern meaning and relevance ! :o)
when one is enlightened one creates the texts that are studied, not the proxies ! :o)
well as the 7th patriarch I give the lineage a modern meaning and relevance ! :o)
when one is enlightened one creates the texts that are studied, not the proxies ! :o)
well as the 7th patriarch I give the lineage a modern meaning and relevance ! :o)
when one is enlightened one creates the texts that are studied, not the proxies ! :o)
when the mind is deluded, as many ignorant thoughts as sands of the ganges arise
when enlightened, this mind gives birth to infinite wonderful meanings
plasticbuddhajesus writes
turns out, the universe is an ovary
my
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that's what the ovaryholders think, that's for sure ! :o(
ewk, a lot of the sort of zen you promote which is really ch'an is sorta meaningless because it is chinese medieval culture with completely different societal relations and perspectives
in today's world, fractals, syliva plath and emily Dickinson are where it's at . .
and the 7th patriarch ! :o)
I would hope you would be objective enough to see that zen has to be /has always been a living interpretation
, it's always your own understanding and living it, not proxying through books, old stories and long dead saints . . ! :o)
the last word, reddit zen , any reddit , the world . . . i n f i n i t y . . .
the music is distracting, much better turned off !
ewk replies
this has nothing to do with zen [..]
my
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what has
this to do with zen ?
ewk, for you it's a lifetime koan, you will never get it ! :o(
ewk replies
I don't know what you pretend you get
certainly if you don't study zhaozhou, you can only pretend
when comes time to discuss zhaozhou [...]
my
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“ I don't know what you pretend you get ”
well that's because you won't look at the
video !
if zhaozhou/joshu were alive today he would be right into fractals, complex number arithmetic and their relation to zen and be taking me up on it !
everyone is special in zen, even you ! :o)
it's like young women putting on make up that older women use to hide their flaws . . . they know not what they do . . . :o)
theksepyro replies
what do complex numbers have to do with zen?
I've been using complex numbers for at least ten years, am i a master now? :)?:)?
my
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there is a bit more to put together, the next step is this
video !
the last word, reddit zen , any reddit , the world . . . i n f i n i t y . . .
the music is distracting, much better turned off
!
the last
word , reddit zen
, any reddit
, the world . . . i n f i n i t y . . .
the last
word , reddit zen, any reddit, the world . . . i n f i n i t y . . .
the last
word , reddit zen, any reddit, the world . . . i n f i n i t y . . .
the last
word , reddit zen, any reddit, the world . . . i n f i n i t y . . .
the last
word , reddit zen, any reddit, the world . . i n f i n i t y . .
singlefinger's guitar video picks
ewk's summary on my views on enlightenment which are sorta accurate ! :o)
you have a psychic vision enlightenment and then you spend the rest of your life trying to understand it
psychic vision enlightenment
steers you
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! : o )
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! : o )
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! : o )
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! : o )
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! : o )
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! : o )
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! :o)
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! :o)
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! :o)
it's not a J O K E ! : o ( )
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! :o)
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! :o)
reddit zen , S Y R I A without real weapons ! : o )
reddit zen , S Y R I A without real weapons ! :o)
reddit zen
, S Y R I A without real weapons ! :o)
reddit zen, S Y R I A without real weapons ! :o)
Syria , reddit zen with real weapons ! : o )
Syria , reddit zen with real weapons ! :o)
Syria, reddit zen with real weapons ! :o)
Syria , reddit zen with real weapons ! :o)
Syria, reddit zen with real weapons ! :o)
everything goes in all directions I n f i n i t e l y f o r e v e r
it's
just
a cot
case
! ! !
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everything goes in all directions I n f i n i t e l y f o r e v e r
it's
just
a cot
case
! ! !
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I preferred walks in the countryside rather than meditating
really beautiful and a lovely stream and waterfall through the property !
meditation by itself is not much use or even dangerous, what you are really interested in is understanding how the world really is and for instance, I went to springwater because I thought toni packer could help me with this and in fact my time there was very instructive, a lot of things that happened or she talked about I have only appreciated twenty or more years later !
I preferred walks in the countryside rather than meditating at the springwater center !
really beautiful and a lovely stream and waterfall through the property !
meditation by itself is not much use or even dangerous, what you are really interested in is understanding how the world really is and for instance, I went to springwater because I thought toni packer could help me with this and in fact my time there was very instructive, a lot of things that happened or she talked about I have only appreciated twenty or more years later !
I got involved in zen in 1988 and have been pretty well mucking around in it since then, at one stage travelling and visiting centers which taught me a lot . . . : o ) ( !
it's very important to understand that zen has equivalents in other mystical traditions and also in literature and poetry and it's important to read
widely of quality literature !
also important is decompression or meditation or contemplation which consists for me of lying in bed half to 3/4 of an hour after waking and some time in the evening just sort of ruminating . . .
I really query sitting in lotus or half lotus as potentially thrombotic and having other negative
cardiovascular import
nihilence
writes of his
claimed kensho experience
essentially, I became aware that I was everything was one thing
I could distinguish my body and other parts from the rest of the world
but I also was aware that ‘I’ was the universe
I don't mean this literally or religiously but I was god in a way
I could see directly that that the universe was generating me, as if I were a puppet, yet at the same time I was also god (again, don't take that literally)
there were no things, but I could still name and still thought
about my thoughts, it was as if I was under the sea and looking up at them as if they were the surface of the water
at the same time, I could ‘hear’ my thinking just like I could hear a passing car or bird tweet
it was peaceful although a bit unsettling considering how different it was
afterwards, I read up on what satori was and found the term kensho
I have to say it matches all of those descriptions
I've written about it several times now and nothing captures it, but then again I'm not a great poet or thinker anyway
the best summary I have is that, for a time I was fully aware that , ‘ I’ am existence (quotations implicating that I could identify ‘myself’ at the time but also that I was not a thing)
I could spend more time trying to make this response even more accurate but I'm pretty sure that's not entirely necessary or even useful
this happened when I was out smoking, taking a break from a stupid tom cruise film
the moment before it happened, I was simply thinking that I had nothing special to write to a friend of mine who I often send evening e-mails to
p.s. one of the first things that I noticed is that I was completely satisfied in some way... that's not to say I wasn't feeling pain or whatever else, just somehow everything was okay and supposed to be that way........ maybe....
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to me that's more like a near death experience, something physiological, a drug, meds, some physiological issue in the brain, i'd be a bit concerned, could be simply being tired and it's hypnagogic
what you have done is shoehorn it into the absolute crap of a schema that you have built up from your wrong minded reading . . .
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“ about my thoughts, it was as if I was under the sea and looking up at them as if they were the surface of the water
at the same time, I could ‘hear’ my thinking just like I could hear a passing car or bird tweet ”
that quote is actually quite in the near death area, I would be concerned !
nihilence replies
I meant it to be poetic, not literal. Thank you for your concern, but I think I'm just a horrible writer
I see what you mean now that I'm reading back what I wrote. it does sound a lot like someone describing anoxia or a panic attack without the panic : o )
I just meant my subvocal thoughts became somewhat objectified in the sense that they were very much there just to be observed like everything else
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nah, quite liked the writing, imaginative ! :o)
nihilence replies
the problem with the writing is that it doesn't capture what actually happened as accurately as I would like, thus it could be easily interpreted as anoxia or something : o )
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I would say you are on autistic spectrum and in fact the brain processing involved in watching the movie could have depleted brain sugars
when I say work, watching junk like that tom cruise movie has to go, it just sets you back . . .
I haven't watched a movie in a theatre for about 30 years !
see you had an experience but what is it telling you ?
not the crap about you being universe but the practical lesson about pissing time away watching junk and the fact you have strong autistic traits and watching that movie exhausts the brain in not a good way !
if you have a touch of hypoglycemia, that is a stepping stone to diabetes ! :o(
that's the real work, not fancy fluff about kensho, but something happened, what has it to tell me ! ? : o)
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it takes weeks and months of work to understand hypoglycemia and blood sugar problems, just keep an open mind and build up a picture, it's really a question of months or even years to understand these things
i'm not talking clinically developed hypoglycemia but rather the edges of a developing blood sugar condition !
the new research is quite
startling , showing that hypoglycemia and diabetes have a common origin !
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it's a suggestion of a developing issue, not a diagnosis
diabetes is rampant now, you just want to keep a weather eye because there's quite a bit you can do to avoid it !
it's your health, you've got to figure out what problems are developing, eye changes are an indicator of blood sugar issues !
I don't feel the ‘ kensho ’ experience is benign ! : o (
metabolic problems are endemic amongst those on autistic spectrum !
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I know you are on autistic spectrum because you have been able to converse with me !
people normally run like frightened rabbits !
I am too strange for them ! :o)
the great zen masters have all been fall over autistic ! :o)
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your problem is you have read bullshit and the real stuff that works you haven't
so you can't ever go straight because you are just stuck in voynich
I can tell cause of the way you are thinking and write and your ideas about kensho . . .
as I say it's just bullshit, but your disease is like the rest, unable to pursue unpalatable truths ! . . .
you really are not doing any real work and the work you do is to lap up junk !
basically you do it for entertainment !
you are damaged and like singlefinger and the rest are just “ waiting at the end of time ” doing some equivalent to twiddling your thumbs !
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actually you are doing real work questioning me and coming back when you are unsatisfied with the answers !
but I don't watch tom cruise films for sure ! :o)
“ waiting at the end of time ” didn't work for me and it won't work for you !
with me I am killed by whatever I do , can't help it , it's just a question of not going through the learning curves of new strange areas that I always seem to roam into !
with me I am killed by whatever I do, can't help it, it's just a question of not going through the learning curves of new strange areas that I always seem to roam into !
with me I am killed by whatever I do, can't help it, it's just a question of not going through the learning curves of new strange areas that I always seem to roam into !
in terms of survival I limp, but it's better to limp than be dead !
everyone limps though, the difference with enlightenment is you see it !
in terms of survival I limp, but it's better to limp than be dead !
everyone limps though, the difference with enlightenment is you see it !
in terms of survival I limp, but it's better to limp than be dead ! :o)(
everyone limps though, the difference with enlightenment is you see it ! :o)(
in terms of survival I limp ,
but it's better to limp than be dead ! :o)(
in terms of survival I limp,
but it's better to limp than be dead ! :o)(
in terms of survival I limp
but it's better to limp than be dead ! :o)(
in terms of survival I limp
, but it's better to limp than be dead ! : o)(
in terms of survival I limp
, but it's better to limp than be dead ! :o)(
in terms of survival I limp, but it's better to limp than be dead ! :o)(
you can work at zen and other centers and get food and board in exchange for labour, but you lose control over your diet and sleep and there's always a lot of political stuff happening . . .
it's a pretty ruthless world basically and never lose sight of income !
I really think health is way the most important, like toni packer who founded the springwater center and died last year developed health issues she may not have if she hadn't founded and put all that work on an ongoing basis into the center
if you are self medicating with the pot, until you can effectively address those issues you are self medicating for with supplements and diet, so you don't need the pot, then things will always be falling apart !
if pot wasn't toxic to the brain or lungs, using pot would be fine, but it is and it's a similar problem with medications “side effects”
when I hit 50 my health started to collapse and with supplements and the
BCD diet I can pretty well be active, healthy and not self medicate (ie. alcohol or pot)
you can work at zen and other centers and get food and board in exchange for labour, but you lose control over your diet and sleep and there's always a lot of “political” stuff happening . . .
it's a pretty ruthless world basically and never lose sight of income !
you (ed. singlefinger) don't have to be interested in what zen is really about
why get upset when it is pointed out to you ?
you (ed. singlefinger) don't have to be interested in what zen is really about
why get upset when it is pointed out to you ?
you (ed. singlefinger) don't have to be interested in what zen is really about
why get upset when it is pointed out to you ?
you don't have to be interested in what zen is really about, why get upset when it is pointed out to you ?
ewk writes
“ zen enlightenment doesn't involve any “ sorting out ”
you cross the bridge and go home to dinner ”
my
reply
the bridge building itself is all that crosses ! : 0 )
enlightenment , so far from being an answer
is a whole new set of problems !
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enlightenment, so far from being an answer is a whole new set of problems !
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enlightenment, so far from being an answer is a whole new set of problems !
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enlightenment, so far from being an answer is a whole new set of problems !
enlightenment, so far from being an answer is a whole new set of problems !
wumen/ mumon ekai said/writes
ed. case 1 of the mummonkan/transmission of the lamp
if you pass through it, you will not only see joshu face to face, but you will also go hand in hand with the successive patriarchs, entangling your eyebrows with theirs, seeing with the same eyes, hearing with the same ears
what one is , is objective fact and that shows . . .
what one is, is objective fact and that shows . . .
what one is, is objective fact and that shows . . .
what one is , is objective fact
what one is, is objective fact and that shows . . .
what one is , is objective fact
what one is, is objective fact
what one is
, is objective fact and that shows . . .
what one is, is objective fact and that shows . . .
what one is, is objective fact and that shows
buji lives in denial of dai kensho and visions ! :o(
ewk replies
that would be “ zen masters don't teach psychic vision enlightenment transmission ”
my
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actually they do , wumen aka mumon in case one of the transmission of the lamp !
“ if you pass through it, you will not only see joshu face to face, but you will also go hand in hand with the successive patriarchs, entangling your eyebrows with theirs, seeing with the same eyes, hearing with the same ears ”
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“ if you memorized the entire joshu text, I mean hard core memorized it, and you could apply the appropriate passage to the situation like lightning, I don't know about seeing his face, but you'd sure have a pretty good idea what what it looks like when his lips move ”
this is fundamental heresy, enlightenment is the wumen/mumon quote, you really don't get that you are very very wrong do you ? !
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you haven't had this mind to mind transmssion so you think wumen is not referring to it !
in actual fact ch'an is peppered with allusions to it !
I totally disbelieved in that sort of thing until it happened...
this was despite having dai kensho at age 7
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my criticism of mumon/wumen is that he is overfocused on enlightenment experiences
“ the gateless gate ” is just one long and I guess flawed exposition of
it/them !
buji lives in denial of dai kensho and visions ! :o(
“ when people sit, slack muscles do not contract to effectively pump blood to the heart
blood can
pool in the legs and affect the endothelial function of arteries, or the ability of blood vessels to expand from increased blood flow ”
basically the problems they are talking about are made worse with meditation and the more circulation constrictive leg positions !
you actually have to move the muscle to get it's pumping action !
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of course walking moves all the muscles the right way !
what I noticed at the centers I stayed at is meditation/meditiative sitting was for young people, older people would rather have their teeth pulled rather than sit any length of time !
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the underlying problem is a lack of movement, a fairly high seiza or sitting on an upright cushion is the safest imo, but really there's a heap of factors and you have to take into account age and thrombotic potential, it's a huge social issue now that we all spend so much time sitting !
relax you are a fake so anything that happens to you is fake ! : o )
this is in the best tradition of synthesizing voynich experiences in zen and you will be like ewk, be able to cross the bridge as a donkey ! :o)
gravy and Yorkshire pudding for dinner ! : o )
relax you are a fake so anything that happens to you is fake ! : o)
this is in the best tradition of synthesizing voynich experiences in zen and you will be like ewk, be able to cross the bridge as a donkey ! :o)
gravy and Yorkshire pudding for dinner ! : o )
relax you are a fake so anything that happens to you is fake ! :o)
this is in the best tradition of synthesizing voynich experiences in zen and you will be like ewk, be able to cross the bridge as a donkey ! :o)
gravy and Yorkshire pudding for dinner ! : o )
history is a fractal !
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history is a fractal !
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history is a fractal !
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history is a fractal !
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history is a fractal !
:
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history is a fractal !
depression is a brain perceiving it's dying !
basically it's physiological, vitamin
k2/mk7 helps with depression, you need to look at
sleep and the circadian rhythm . . .
maybe you have a thyroid problem, you could try a drop of iodine tincture on the underside of your wrist
the historical zen is as concentrated a collection of insomniacal/poor sleep quality depressives as you will ever get ! . . . : o) (
the historical zen is as concentrated a collection of insomniacal/poor sleep quality depressives as you will ever get ! . . . : o) (
catherine of siena
every step on the way to heaven is heaven !
wumen wasn't enlightened, joshu, linji, yunmen, foyan and nansen were !
I guess wumen is sort of quasi, could be the recording and translations, but like huangpo, not really there imo !
wumen wasn't enlightened, joshu, linji, yunmen, foyan and nansen were !
I guess wumen is sort of quasi, could be the recording and translations, but like huangpo, not really there imo !
wumen wasn't enlightened, joshu, linji, yunmen, foyan and nansen were !
I guess wumen is sort of quasi, could be the recording and translations, but like huangpo, not really there imo !
wumen wasn't enlightened, joshu, linji, yunmen, foyan and nansen were !
wumen wasn't enlightened, joshu, linji, yunmen, foyan and nansen were !
ewk, we have been to and fro'ing on threads in reddit zen for many months and I look for some simple mistake that really marks where you have veered off, and it is simply your lack of real life experience in zen, you are in some falsely abstracted self indulgence and ignorant of how zen works space !
lack of attention to detail, schizophrenia, hubris and rigidity just compound this problem ! :o(
what can I say?
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ewk, the practical reality is I have visited many teachers and stayed at many zen centers and you just have N O I D E A !
it's beyond bizarre that you claim any sort of knowledge without any practical side ! :o()
the dia kensho experience is visionary, if you repudiate that then you repudiate ch'an/zen, again what can I say ?
it gives a certainty that no matter what anyone else says, you have seen for yourself and know how things are and that's the position the genuine masters speak from !
frauds like yourself cling to books and “ correct lineages ” and zen masters saying the sort of bullshit you approve of and think is right, well this is exactly what the patriarchs/great masters abhor and criticize !
can I spell it out for you and you would have picked this up in real life zen !
zen is about personal enlightenment, it's a very distinct event and has to be followed up by a lifetime's hard work to sort out !
ewk replies
zen enlightenment doesn't involve any “ sorting out ” , you cross the bridge and go home to dinner
my
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there is no home, as I say you will wake up in a very unfriendly and strange space ! :o()
your reaction is the world's reaction, hostile and suppressionary ! :o(
singlefinger writes
“ words aren't always necessary to answer a question ”
chris thile
explains what ‘ sold him ’ on the
$250,000 mandolin he's holding, and he answers the question beautifully
I think it's interesting that we fixate so much on the necessity of words to explain ourselves
“ sometimes, they're really not that necessary ” said the man, with his words.
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lovely playing ! : o)
that is the issue though, competence in a craft !
a zen master's craft is words !
buji zennists like yourself are just bad karaoke so they post things like you have !
craft always wins out over the
anti-skilled ie luddites ! :o)
honestly, only an idiot would think they understand something with no real life experience ! :o(
honestly, only an idiot would think they understand something with no real life experience ! :o(
honestly only an idiot would think they understand something with no real life experience ! :o(
only an idiot would think they understand something with no real life experience ! :o(
ewk asks/directs
why not study zen?
my
reply
that would be better expressed as
“ why not sort out the bullshit from the useful
in what is regarded as zen ! ”
ewk asks/directs
why not study zen?
my
reply
better expressed as
“ why not sort out the bullshit from the useful
in what is regarded as zen ! ”
ewk asks/directs
why not study zen?
my
reply
better expressed as
“ why not sort out the bullshit from the useful
in what is regarded as zen ! ”
ewk asks/directs
why not study zen?
my
reply
better expressed as
“ why not sort out the bullshit from the useful in what is regarded as zen ! ”
ewk asks/directs
your experience of a mystic vision isn't a basis for saying “ zen is ”
after all, it was just a few moments
my
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wider than this and any other universe ! :o)
I have inherited and I haven't repudiated
t r a v e l I s b r o a d e n I n g
t r a v e l I s b r o a d e n I n g
t r a v e l I s b r o a d e n I n g
back in 1995 i was driving through kakadu through an area with some high rocky outcrops/towers and i got this “ calling ” to stop the 4WD and climb up this outcrop, it would seem random, it just seemed to call me and when i got to the top there were these aboriginal paintings on the rock under a shelf, they were really quite intense and when i talked about it later to a ranger, she said she could guess where it was and it was a very sacred place and I wasn't supposed to have gone up there !
i must have been literally called into the
back in 1995 i was driving through kakadu through an area with some high rocky outcrops/towers and i got this “ calling ” to stop the 4WD and climb up this outcrop, it would seem random, it just seemed to call me and when i got to the top there were these aboriginal paintings on the rock under a shelf, they were really quite intense and when i talked about it later to a ranger, she said she could guess where it was and it was a very sacred place and I wasn't supposed to have gone up there !
i must have been literally called into the
d r e a m t i m e
back in 1995 i was driving through kakadu through an area with some high rocky outcrops/towers and i got this “ calling ” to stop the 4WD and climb up this outcrop, it would seem random, it just seemed to call me and when i got to the top there were these aboriginal paintings on the rock under a shelf, they were really quite intense and when i talked about it later to a ranger, she said she could guess where it was and it was a very sacred place and I wasn't supposed to have gone up there !
i must have been literally called into the D R E A M T I M E
back in 1995 i was driving through kakadu through an area with some high rocky outcrops/towers and i got this “ calling ” to stop the 4WD and climb up this outcrop, it would seem random, it just seemed to call me and when i got to the top there were these aboriginal paintings on the rock under a shelf, they were really quite intense and when i talked about it later to a ranger, she said she could guess where it was and it was a very sacred place and I wasn't supposed to have gone up there !
i must
have
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called into the
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methexis quotes bankei and writes
andrew's
OP reminds me of bankei
“ to attain the truth today all one needs is self-criticism ”
is bankei not part of the zen lineage, since he dismissed studying old cases as kind of useless, even counterproductive ?
my
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what I have noticed is that people on reddit zen go to great lengths to depersonalize ‘ zen ’ one way or another, whether it's sutra pushing or the blue cliff record or zen master quote pushing . . .
what they are doing is utilizing these things as pivots around which they can masturbate while avoiding any engagement with themselves and doing any real zen . . .
basically the cases and talks and sutras and quotes are an isolating device with which one can posture to flatter one's hubris while also being able to not engage any meaningful content and action into their real lives !
when you disrupt that they get nasty . . . !
eshun's departure
when eshun, the zen nun, was past sixty and about to leave this world
she asked some monks to pile up wood in the yard
seating herself firmly in the center of the funeral pyre, she had it set on fire around the edges
“ o nun! ” shouted one monk , “ is it hot in there? ”
“ such a matter would concern only a stupid person like yourself ” , answered eshun
the flames arose, and she passed away
neversayzen replied in the line below, followed by my lines !
hot, cold, it was all your choice. is there anything that can be said to satisfy you ?
cold, hot it all wasn't your choice, is there anything that can't be said to unsatisfy you ?
cold, hot it all wasn't your choice, is there anything that can be said to unsatisfy you ?
what is zen ?
i think zen is more than being open, it is being open to your own mistakes or areas you might be mistaken in, this is a hard process of going where we don't want to go and an objective real time engagement of what is involved and thrown up !
i think zen is more than being open, it is being open to your own mistakes or areas you might be mistaken in, this is a hard process of going where we don't want to go and an objective real time engagement of what is involved and thrown up !
“ seriously, how do I zen ? ”
how to waste your time in five words ?
“ seriously, how do I zen ? ”
how to waste your time in five words ?
“ seriously, how do I zen ? ”
how to waste your time in five words ?
well worth viewing if you want to understand what scholarship is !
scholarship is not some mysterious entity removed from everyday experience but a remorseless process of discovery and being correct ! : o )
well worth viewing if you want to understand what scholarship is !
scholarship is not some mysterious entity removed from everyday experience but a remorseless process of discovery and being correct ! : o )
well worth viewing if you want to understand what scholarship is !
scholarship is not some mysterious entity removed from everyday experience but a remorseless process of discovery and being correct ! : o )
well worth viewing if you want to understand what scholarship is !
scholarship is not some mysterious entity removed from everyday experience but a remorseless process of discovery and being correct ! : o )
well worth viewing if you want to understand what scholarship is !
scholarship is not some mysterious entity removed from everyday experience but a remorseless process of discovery and being correct ! :o)
case 34 of the blue cliff record is a classic “ anti-buji ” koan !
my comment is
ewk pays the
penalty of being an official when he's not even one !
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this alternative translation is better
minister wang entered zhaoqing ( literally ‘ incur-blessings ’ ) as the tea was being brewed
at the time elder lang was working with ming zhao and held the long-handled brewing pan
elder lang flipped over the long-handle pan and poured out the tea
on seeing this, the minister asked the elder , “ what is under the tea stove ? ”
the elder replied , “ the spirit who holds up the stove with both hands ”
the minister asked , “ since the spirit is already holding up the stove, why did you pour out the brewed tea ? ”
elder lang replied , “ a government official who has served a period of one thousand days can lose his post in a single morning ”
the minister shook out his sleeves and left
ming zhao said , “ elder lang, you have eaten zhaoqing's cooked rice, yet you go to the other side of the river to forage for natural charcoal ”
elder lang asked , “ venerable, how do you make it alive ? ”
ming zhao replied , “ the non-human gained it's advantage ”
xuedou said , “ at that time however, one should have stepped on and toppled the tea stove ”
my comment , the winners are elder lang and ming zhao !
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it's a classic “ the good the bad and the ugly ! ”
the good are elder lang and ming zhao, the bad is minister wang and the ugly is xuedou ! :o)
ewk's misfortune is to be bad and ugly ! :o)
case 34 of the blue cliff record is a classic “ anti-buji ” koan !
my comment is
ewk pays the
penalty of being an official when he's not even one !
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this alternative ending is better
ming zhao said , “ elder lang, you have eaten zhaoqing's cooked rice, yet you go to the other side of the river to forage for natural charcoal ”
elder lang asked , “ venerable, how do you make it alive ? ”
ming zhao replied , “ the non-human gained it's advantage ”
xuedou said , “ at that time however, one should have stepped on and toppled the tea stove ”
my
comment , the winners are elder lang and ming zhao !
case 34 of the blue cliff record is a classic “ anti-buji ” koan !
my comment is
ewk pays the
penalty of being an official when he's not even one !
the buddha character is not enlightened !
he
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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philosopher !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
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the buddha character is not enlightened !
he is an out of work philosopher !
the buddha character is not enlightened !
he is an out of work philosopher !
the buddha character is not enlightened !
he is an out of work philosopher !
the buddha character is not enlightened
he is an out of work philosopher
john of the cross's death is way more realistic of what happens !
you may love scholarship, but really it's just a lot of work researching, synthesizing and co-hering, like why not do some of that yourself ?
woodrail replies
I was being sarcastic
scholars eat poo
my
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Richard carrier doesn't eat poo, you are full of hubris and naivety !
your antagonism to quality scholarship is due to your own intellectual laziness, you don't like being shown up !
you may love scholarship, but really it's just a lot of work researching, synthesizing and co-hering, like why not do some of that yourself ?
you may love scholarship, but really it's just a lot of work researching, synthesizing and co-hering, like why not do some of that yourself ?
you may love scholarship, but really it's just a lot of work researching, synthesizing and
co-hering, like why not do some of that yourself
?
you may love scholarship, but really it's just a lot of work researching, synthesizing and
co-hering, like why not do some of that yourself ?
where in the universe is the milky
way
?
where in the universe is the milky
way ?
“ which actual zen characters do you consider zen masters? ”
one of the problems with ch'an is everybody has about three different names from the different naming systems so it's real hard to keep track of who is who !
joshu, linji, yunmen, foyan, nansen ?
there are a few authentic bonzes so to speak...
huangpo I am not sure about, mostly he doesn't seem enlightened and sometimes he does, could be the translations . . .
or likely he is very uneven, like dogen . . !
Han Shan is really really good
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enlightened people don't write commentaries, they create the cases !
the real test of enlightenment is accessing the creative space that the “ real juice ” is alive in !
of course religion is based on spewing copied bullshit which is what people do on reddit zen !
yes you masturbating idiot ewk ! : o (
that's why Sylvia plath is a zen patriarch !
prunck replies and asks
is the “ real juice ” unable to write commentary?
why would writing commentary preclude someone from being creative?
especially since much of the commentary, especially in the Mumonkan, is in verse.
my
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you can make something or talk about it !
making something of the genuine
laniakea thread is just really quite
different . . !
as you say a well done commentary doesn't preclude some-one from being creative but the mumonkan commentary is an abortion !
there is a sort of master
document that they took the cases from ! ?
in fact I think there are distinct authorship issues with the mumomkan, it may in fact be the work of a committee of monks based on their filtered recording and understanding !
recent scholarship and better availability of original records in recent years is exploding the view of a monolithic and simple scriptural ch'an tableau !
“ the wudeng huiyuan (compendium of five lamps) is the primary source for the translated passages in this
book .
that text, compiled by the monk puji at lingyin monastery in hangzhou during the early thirteenth century, is the distillation of five previous ‘lamp records’
, which provide traditional accounts of the lives of famous zen teachers and their teachings (note that the ‘five lamps’ is not a reference to the five traditional zen schools)
[...] first and foremost among the five lamp records compiled within the compendium of the five lamps is a text entitled ‘ the record of the transmission of the lamp of the jingde era ’ , commonly called the transmission of the lamp
I have translated some passages in this book directly from that text. often, passages from the compendium of five lamps and the transmission of the lamp are the same or quite similar. however, since each text contains material that is omitted from the other, i sometimes cite the transmission of the lamp separately ”
look at this poem of Sylvia plath's
Lorelai , one of the greatest ever written to understand what
the real juice is !
prunck states
joshu never wrote any poetry or even wrote anything down at all
what exactly was he creating?
it seems to me all he did was “talk about it”
my
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this is in the context of a highly illiterate culture, maybe .25% of the population could write, a higher percentage reading !
the 6th patriarch was illiterate, do know if joshu was literate, maybe he could read but not write ! ?
if Christian bullshit has been perpetuated 2000 years, there's no reason why Buddhist bullshit shouldn't ! : o )
what I was wondering having looked closely at the question of how historically
real Christ was and seeing that he was just a fairy
Osiris in fact)
is how historically real Buddha and muhammad were and they in fact are just the same . . .
it's all just weird nonsense perpetuated by human social machinery ! ...
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there's nothing vague though about such effective and concentrated con artistry !
if Christian bullshit has been perpetuated 2000 years, no reason why Buddhist bullshit shouldn't ! : o )
what I was thinking having looked closely at the question of how historically
real Christ was and seeing that he was just a fairy story (heavily cribbed from
Osiris in fact)
is how historically real Buddha and muhammad were and they in fact are just the same . . .
it's all just weird nonsense perpetuated by human social machinery ! ...
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there's nothing vague though about such effective and concentrated con artisty !
if Christian bullshit has been perpetuated 2000 years, no reason why Buddhist bullshit shouldn't ! : o )
if Christian bullshit has been perpetuated 2000 years, no reason why Buddhist bullshit shouldn't ! :o)
if Christian bullshit has been perpetuated 2000 years, no reason why Buddhist bullshit shouldn't ! :o)
generations Y and Z are so fake, just so self entitled and timid to anything except their own b u l l s h I t
generations Y and Z are so fake, just so self entitled and timid to anything except their own bu l l s h I t
women are walking ovaries !
women are walking ovaries !
women are walking ovaries !
women are walking ovaries !
women are walking ovaries
i reply to ewk
bleeps from the belly up goldfish ! ?
:o)(
ewk replies
how did you determine the goldfish was belly up
my
reply
it's the lice on the belly tracing the words in the posts you reply in ! :o)
ewk replies
less plausible
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that's almost the definition of mad
just nothing gets through ! : o ( )
ewk, mad is your
denial of
visions and their role in the mystic path
to do this you have to isolate zen as something completely different from the quality mysticism of other religions
mad is thinking you have some competence in something with no real life experience of it
mad is the deliberate twisting of material you read here to fit your paradigm of know it all bluster . . .
I could go on, but really you are mad in the wrong way . . .
: o ( )
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ewk, you must be mentally retarded, schizophrenic, semantic-pragmatic disordered and autistic/aspergers !
I have sympathy with all of them and I am sorry ! : o ( )
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how you are mad, is you just come back with everything twisted to fit your projection !
there's no person but ewk the software robot . . .
running a very simple and rigid “ self esteem building ” algorithm
that's almost the definition of mad, just nothing gets through ! : o ( )
that's almost the definition of mad, just nothing gets through ! : o ( )
that's almost the definition of mad, just nothing gets through ! : o ( )
that's almost the definition of mad, just nothing gets through ! : o ( )
that's almost the definition of mad, just nothing gets through ! : o ( )
read layman pang carefully , his life was a disaster !
zen is a celibate and hermetic or monastic tradition, this suburban version of zen in the west is littered with the corpses of it's “ practitioners ” caught in a maladaptive and toxic paradigm/amalgam !
kirkirus replies
[...] from what I read, his kids traveled with him
(ed. on my saying his children committed suicide)
he didn't give up all he owned, he threw it away
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“ his kids traveled with him ”
no they went to a special buddhist hell for suicides !
he went bankrupt and this was called ‘ throwing it away ’
no sane family man in the entire history of the universe including all species of alien whatever, ever took all the families possessions and wealth and dumped it in the river to be lost forever !
you only see what you want to !
why not read the stories instead of following some fantasy you have
how can you describe the self willed death like that of two young fit and able people as anything except suicide !
read layman pang carefully , his life was a disaster !
zen is a celibate and hermetic or monastic tradition, this suburban version of zen in the west is littered with the corpses of it's “ practitioners ” caught in a maladaptive and toxic paradigm/amalgam !
read layman pang carefully, his life was a disaster !
zen is a celibate and hermetic or monastic tradition, this suburban version of zen in the west is littered with the corpses of it's “ practitioners ” caught in a maladaptive and toxic paradigm/amalgam !
I practice as I preach and live as a celibate hermit !
read layman pang carefully, his life was a disaster !
zen is a celibate and hermetic or monastic tradition, this suburban version of zen in the west is littered with the corpses of it's “ practitioners ” caught in a maladaptive paradigm !
I practice as I preach and live as a celibate hermit !
read layman pang carefully, his life was a disaster !
zen is a celibate and hermetic or monastic tradition, this suburban version of zen in the west is littered with the corpses of it's “ practitioners ” caught in a maladaptive paradigm !
I practice as I preach and live as a celibate hermit !
always be careful when you work to do it in a manner that upgrades your skills and experience usefully whether it's project management of any sort or technical proficiency
that way when you work, you are earning not just for the company, but also for yourself in the potential income of a higher paying job or the ability to work as a consultant or on your own business ! . . .
enriching those arsehole shareholders and senior management of the company you work for should make you gag . . .
always be careful when you work to do it in a manner that upgrades your skills and experience usefully whether it's project management of any sort or technical proficiency
that way when you work, you are earning not just for the company, but also for yourself in the potential income of a higher paying job or the ability to work as a consultant or on your own business ! . . .
enriching those arsehole shareholders and senior management of the company you work for should make you gag . . .
always be careful when you work to do it in a manner that upgrades your skills and experience usefully whether it's project management of any sort or technical proficiency
that way when you work, you are earning not just for the company, but also for yourself in the potential income of a higher paying job or the ability to work as a consultant or on your own business ! . . .
enriching those arsehole shareholders and senior management of the company you work for should make you gag . . .
always be careful when you work to do it in a manner that upgrades your skills and experience usefully whether it's project management of any sort or technical proficiency
that way when you work, you are earning not just for the company, but also for yourself in the potential income of a higher paying job or the ability to work as a consultant or on your own business ! . . .
enriching those arsehole shareholders and senior management of the company you work for should make you gag . . .
always be careful when you work to do it in a manner that upgrades your skills and experience usefully whether it's project management of any sort or technical proficiency
that way when you work, you are earning not just for the company, but also for yourself in the potential income of a higher paying job or the ability to work as a consultant or on your own business ! . . .
enriching those arsehole shareholders and senior management of the company you work for should make you gag . . .
always be careful when you work to do it in a manner that upgrades your skills and experience usefully whether it's project management of any sort or technical proficiency
that way when you work, you are earning not just for the company, but also for yourself in the potential income of a higher paying job or the ability to work as a consultant or on your own business ! . . .
enriching those arsehole shareholders and senior management of the company you work for should make you gag . . .
hubric unenlightened nuts like those on reddit zen are so up themselves they can't tell the difference between my genuineness and their own endless putrid crap ! : o )
people like that are so fake they don't know other people can be different ! : o (
singlefinger replies
I like you and I never said you were a fake
I treat you like you treat me, you insufferable toxic twit. :)
I think you're too sure of what is and isn't , so I like to poke fun at you. but I promise, it's all in good fun. you're quick to insult, so I rib you back!
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you really don't get you don't understand and never will the way you are going !
“ I think you're too sure of what is and isn't ”
we do not approve of each other, you need to see that for a start !
it's not comfy, the whole thing is a brutal debilitating business !
it's work basically and there's not much fun in it, what you are talking about and your approach is like 99% of others here on reddit zen, time filling, entertainment and self esteem building !
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yeah so you are of the view that you know and I don't and as I say we don't approve of each other, regardless of personal amiability or likingness the ways part, life is like that ! :o)
you can't contradict the major points of what I say and approve of me !
I don't have to be intent on crucifying myself, it happens naturally ! :o)(
hubric unenlightened nuts like those on reddit zen are so up themselves they can't tell the difference between my genuineness and their own endless putrid crap ! : o )
people like that are so fake they don't know other people can be different ! : o (
hubric unenlightened nuts like those on reddit zen are so up themselves they can't tell the difference between my genuineness and their own endless putrid crap ! :o)
people like that are so fake they don't know other people can be different ! :o(
hubric unenlightened nuts like those on reddit zen are so up themselves they can't tell the difference between my genuineness and their own endless putrid crap ! :o)
people like that are so fake they don't know other people can be different ! :o(
hubric unenlightened nuts like those on reddit zen are so up themselves they can't tell the difference between my genuineness and their own endless putrid crap ! :o)
hubric unenlightened nuts like those on reddit zen are so up themselves they can't tell the difference between my genuineness and their own endless putrid crap ! :o)
the knees have some self repair capacity but the hips don't
I really think sitting lotus will screw the hips !
I suspect asians eventually have trouble as well !
the long life expectancy is new, you really have to think 50+
the knees have some self repair capacity but the hips don't
I really think sitting lotus will screw the hips !
I suspect asians have trouble as well !
the long life expectancy is new, you really have to think 50+
it's only in the later part of our lives that we have accumulated enough experience to know how to have lived it !
it's only in the later part of our lives that we have accumulated enough experience to know how to have lived it !
it's only in the later part of our lives that we have accumulated enough experience to know how to have lived it ! :o)(
it's only in the later part of our lives that we have accumulated enough experience to know how to have lived it ! :o)(
it's only in the later part of our lives that we have accumulated enough experience to know how to have lived it !
it's only in the later part of our lives that we have accumulated enough experience to know how to have lived it
it's only the blinking that spreads the tear film evenly on the eye !
I read all the latest
research , it just puts you miles and miles ahead, the medical schools are notorious for taking twenty years to catch up
“ we found that we had to really flood the eye in our simulations
the fluid would rather travel in the meniscus, it splits traveling along the upper lid and the lower lid
we confirmed that blinking is necessary to stop this thinning from happening
every time you blink, the tear film gets repainted on the front of your eye
it's important to have smooth tear film for optical quality ”
it's only the blinking that spreads the tear film evenly on the eye !
they parade joshu, but commit the fault that joshu was complaining of !
what I don't understand is how they imagine posturing on reddit gives them something?
reddit zen is a good opportunity to explore . . . why wall your self into a cave ?
pickledpie writes
who's the fool
if you say him or her
you are the fool
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who's the fool
if you don't say him or her
you are the fool
who's the fool
if you don't say him or her
pickledpie writes
who's the fool
if you say him or her
you are the fool
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who's the fool
if you don't say him or her
“ when you have really reached the true way beyond doubt
you will find it as vast and boundless as outer space ”
mujushingyo replies
yes. it is vast and boundless as outer space!
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the only
it is/are the walls of a pysch ward ! :o)
sepehr g. writes
whatever happened to the amazing artistic women of the past?
eileen seems to embody much of that wisdom
amazing women like jane austen, emily dickinson, beatrix potter, lm montgomery who really had great creativity
eileen also seems to reach those ranks!
now you mainly have stupid women like mary oliver, thanks to feminism and modernity
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Eileen has an index of poem pages
here
imo intelligence doesn't breed very well is the problem, the shining lights are an accident of genetics !
interestingly
bodhidharma from various historical records may well have been a real person and quite possibly executed at the heyin
massacre which was basically the elimination of a power clique !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale !
of jehovah's witnesses
gentlemen, you are caught up in some bizzare and insane fairytale
ewk, why waste your time and life on “anti-zen”
you are functionally schizophrenic imo, but most here are !
the authentic you diss, the crap you roll in and promote like some bizzare pig !
ewk, your big problem is you twist what is said to suit some view you have or can ride the dragon of bluster on !
over many repeat threads you have never addressed once in a thoughtful way what I wrote on my
vision with the 6th patriarch !
the other weird thing is your huge involvement in this reddit zen without any real life experience and as I say you have it all inverted, some schizophrenic phantasy of what zen is about
stop throwing the sound bites around and get to grips with what is said !
ewk, why waste your time and life on “anti-zen”
you are functionally schizophrenic imo, but most here are !
the authentic you diss, the crap you roll in and promote like some bizzare pig !
ewk, why waste your time and life on “anti-zen”
you are functionally schizophrenic imo, but most here are !
the authentic you diss, the crap you roll in and promote like some bizzare pig !
we may have this or that theory about how life should be, but what we do
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we may have this or that theory about how life should be, but what we do subsumes everything !
we may have this or that theory about how life should be, but what we do subsumes everything
winter, too late for anything except admiring the moon
[..] when you have really reached the true way beyond doubt, you will find it as vast and boundless as outer space
joshu replied “ you are just some bullshit character in a fairy story spouting nonsense ! ”
nansen reeled and spat back “ so are you ! ”
the book closed and everything including reddit zen disappeared ! : o)(
the vast majority of genetic material in your body is not your own
it belongs to the microbiome in your gut !
it's a bit weird to realise that !
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the vast majority of genetic material in your body is not your own, it's the microbiome in your gut !
it's a bit weird to realise that !
:
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the vast majority of genetic material in your body is not your own, it's the microbiome in your gut !
it's a bit weird to realise that !
the vast majority of genetic material in your body is not your own, it's the microbiome in your gut !
kierkegaard's problem was he lived in cities !
kierkegaard's problem was he lived in cities !
kierkegaard's problem was he lived in cities !
basically the starches in potatoes , sweet potatoes and grains are slow to digest and in people with poor microbiome/biofilm control the bad gut bugs get away feeding on those starches
you just have to experiment and try stuff, personally i'm really not much good with potatoes in my diet !
I do a lot of cooking with Teflon, it's really the best cooking surface provided you don't overheat it !
the point is that Teflon doesn't contaminate the food, it's very inert and doesn't affect the hormones !
cast iron is a reactive surface, you need quite a bit of skill to manage it !
the principle of the
diet is to cut right back the amount of biofilm/microbiome by reducing what you feed it, which means cutting out slow to digest starches as this is food for the microbiome and eating quickly digested and absorbed vegetables that don't hang about in the gut long !
the houston enzymes are a great help for expediting this !
some supplements causes as many problems as they solve, for example those containing inorganic magnesium which is a great microbiome feeder
kombucha is a yeast biofilm culture so the spores and live culture will be a big problem, if it's pasturized that will be much less of an issue but you run into other problems with metabolites !
winter , it's too late for anything except admiring the moon
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winter, it's too late for anything except admiring the moon
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winter, it's too late for anything except admiring the moon
:
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winter, it's too late for anything except admiring the moon
winter, it's too late for anything except admiring the moon
winter, it's too late for anything except fucking admiring the moon
winter, too late for anything except admiring the moon
GO WALKABOUT
spring has sprung
or haven't you heard
can't you tell
by the singing of birds ?
winter has gone
and it's not too late
but there you exist
behind a closed gate
sat at your desk
no listening to birds
how you don't live
I find quite absurd
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the daffodils fluoresce in their consistent yellow
the gate is not closed
it is open
winter never goes
the birds sing right through winter
i may not live
winter, too late for anything except admiring the moon
winter, too late for anything except fucking admiring the moon
if the
dictionary was annotated by the real author of shakespeares works, it favours sir henry Neville because the handwriting is not shakespeare's, and also the English/French word translations at the back could relate to sir henry neville's time as the English ambassador in france
I can't find any information on the web as to whether it matches sir henry neville's handwriting or not.
the most probable circumstance imo is that the annotations were done by some-one reading shakespeare's/neville's writings !
no doubt there's a bit of work going on as regards what the story is and perhaps more definite information will come to light !
hmm . .
dead in the water ! : o)
“ since huineng knew about mazu from the prophecy and you didn't ”
ed. ewk's claim that mazu was the 7th patriarch !
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you mean from the book “ baolin zhuan ” (chronicle of the baolin monastery) likely written by one of mazu's disciples (zhangjing huaihui) 88 years after huineng's death and the purpose of the book was to synthesize a lineage continuity up to mazu as mazu notoriously did not make any lineage claims ! ?
“ how should i conduct myself ? ”
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one needs to
sleep well and have an active inquiring and functioning brain, without effective
dietary changes and useful supplementation
I would have been a goner !
i don't know what “ real work ” you are talking about?
if by “ real work ” you are referencing your “ holy vision ” in which you receive approval from a guy who was born 1000 years ago via a sacred vision in which you can miraculously speak fluent chinese, then no
I don't do that kind of “ work ”
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you don't do any contemplative work, so it just remains outside your comprehension !
ewk replies
if by “ contemplation work ” you mean “ having fantasy conversations in which I'm awarded a magical but historically inaccurate certificate like zaddar ” then no, I don't do fantasy contemplation
I study Zen
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all you have done is convert zen into a form of christian scripture pushing !
in reality there is no such solid entity of “zen” to be pushed , but the endlessly vast and beautiful panorama of what zen is about which is art, literature, other mystical traditions and the beauties of nature, it's a pity our mean frames are so limiting to us ! . . . : o(
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what can I say, i'm not a zen student, but the zen patriarch and mazu never considered himself as the 7th patriarch since he was a generation later than huineng and never had any personal contact with him !
mind to mind transmission is R E A L L Y distinct, he would have mentioned it !
and actually if it had happened to him , why would have huineng have bothered with me?
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you have been swept up in the problems of voynich in zen literature and the lack of meditative/contemplative retreat experience . . .
so what you have ended up with is some ghastly christian evangelical hybridization of zen that apparently one can sustain on a vehicle like reddit zen . .
what I have figured is zen or our mutual interest is zen is like some coming together of the very different roads we are all on, within hailing distance at least so we can shout at and hear each other, but in reality the roads are all very different, coming from different directions and going in different directions, some roads are much righter in terms of zen than others which can really be unstably w r o n g
the rightness of the road is its own truth and what others think doesn't matter
my problems in relation to zen and what it is about are not a lack of genuine visions, but more the working that truth into my life and what I do which may lead to me having to pretty much give up reddit zen and get back to income related activities and spending more time in beautiful outdoor scenery which is what I used to do once actually
the dropping of my interest in zen is going to hurt, but one just has to move on rather than get butchered by necessity . . .
you don't do the work and far from seeing you error you spend your time trying to tell some-one who really has done the work that they are wrong ?
what
can
I
say ?
you don't want to leave the mad morons and never will !
the bottom line is we don't approve of each other which seems to be a pretty normal state of affairs in zen so in reality what is there to say ?
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the bottom line is the direct communication with god or infinity, I don't depend on others and indeed expect them to be contrary . . since that is the nature of our reality . . the estrangement from that . .
it's very difficult and requires one to walk the constant line of crucifixion
you take the full pain from living and its daily problems . .
the plus side is one knows right from wrong in this matter ! ...
people want the plus side without the negative side, but it can't be done
speaking to the blind and deaf about this is entirely the normal state of affairs ! . . :o()
singlefinger writes
you're like an ouroboros, blowing smoke up your own ass and pretending it's huineng
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I can't convey the experience to you, it happened, what more can I say ?
it's your limited view of things that leads to your lack of comprehension, what can I do about that, or do I even want it to be different ?
zen and philosophy is the breaking of the packages we think life comes bundled in and seeing past the illusory into the true reality !
two lines from infinity are causing such a fuss ! :o)
what enlightenment is
, is originality, when you speak and write it comes from infinity in your own
experience and not the toxic repetition and regurgitation of whatever nonsense zen stories and voynichated bullshit and it is also an intelligent removal from the usual hubric human egoic nonsense
dream in sleep and dream in real life ! : o )
dream in sleep and dream in real life ! :o)
dream in sleep and dream in real life ! :o)
the zen master, the sufi master and jesus went into the pub for a drink !
jesus said “ did you hear the one about ‘ knock and the door . . ’ ”
before he could finish the whole pub rose up and tossed all three out the door with some kicks and punches ! :o)(
auroch27 asks/states
is nike's slogan “just do it” a
koan ?
I am reminded of the story of the zen master being read the words of jesus : ‘ knock, and the door will be opened unto you. seek and you shall find ’
the
master said ‘ that is excellent. whoever said that is not far from buddhahood ’
something about their slogan reminds me of that story just do it. that is excellent
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jesus
said , “ let one who seeks not stop seeking until one finds. when one finds, one will be disturbed. when one is disturbed, one will marvel, and will reign over all ”
I actually think that differs a bit from “ just do it ” , plenty of wrong direction and ill thought out “ just doing it ” around ! :o)
well you are assuming this master knew what he was on about, but in fact the reply is unenlightened
my quote for the gospel of Thomas is enlightened !
you have just read some stupidity and have no real life experience of zen . . .
the lock actually has to be picked, it's the test, once in tho you are very welcome, the favours can be somewhat uneven though ! :o)(
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the door is closed to you , it's open to a picked lock ! :o)
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basically what auroch27 is doing constructing a simulation of the picking down to fake padlocks and doors and calling this “enlightenment”
why people do this is they are too afraid to start real self deconstruction and rather than get into the real deal push scriptures, hubric self aggrandizement as “ one who knows ” and other bullshit . . . .
he lacks the stomach for real work and will just masturbate on with nike crap endlessly. . . .
ewk states
you make stuff up
it's not even particularly entertaining or original stuff
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ewk, I keep telling you it really happened !
it's the m a j i c !
:o)
there's a heap of stuff that comes with it, that's how you can tell, plenty of fools make claims with a bare cupboard !
like you for instance ! :o )
ewk replies
you pretend it really happened
we both know better
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the cupboard is not bare, where does it come from ?
