what people normally seek emotionally with me is all jangled and dissonant

some nut in florida was going to get a gun and shoot me with uranium depleted bullets, he had a photo of himself on the web brandishing a pistol, i located his phone number, address and the nearest police station to him

it's fundamental not to overlay yourself with the ideas of others but learn to express yourself

originality is this synchronous rhythm with infinity and you in identity with yourself and it's rich and inexhaustible

repeating clichés is the most contemptible activity and speaks nothing but a contracted and painfully curtailed existance

the group mind says  “ kill the spirit within you, don’t be an individual! ”

it's sorta like someone enforcing a bleak day on themselves, cutting any life and joy out,

really really weird

endless endless grey

i noticed this comment as self-appropriate  (thank-you for reminding me eileen : o )  when i wrote it which was a criticism of ted lemon on the hczb spouting about how creativity should take secondplace to subservience to the “teacher ”

khru, the net is full of great art like escher, why not follow what you are interested in artistically and get more breadth ?

the real fiction of zen is you can oversimplify and get adequate understanding

you can't

it's all there on the web, research dogen if you like  ; o )

but the fiction is to just sit and listen to the teacher and you will get there

in reality you become calcified ignorance and the system self-perpetuates by then taking these zazen fossils and they become teachers in turn

nobody with any understanding would claim to teach

“ not one zen teacher ever acted superior and claimed to be awakened and better than others, like you are ”

well i wasn't that reluctant  : o )

as far as i can see i am the only one with an authentic understanding since the korean monk kusan sunim who died in 1983

yeah i am awakened, superior i don't buy, we all have a fundamental equality

but awakened is awakened and non awakened is nonawakened, what can i do, it's just the fact?

the reason you are deluded is precisely what this exchange is showing, you just take everything shallowly and never go the extra mile to sorting anything out so it is real and just exist in a deluded and rather dull fantasy

crap ted, the fake likes quiet and to be left alone to it’s own bullshit, you’re another person who could do some real life checking on what you spout !

ted stretch yourself and say something original?

i think it can actually hurt cause it means going outside our boundaries, but hey where is buddha if not outside the boundaries?

let me say it again, the problem with translations is you are not reading what the author wrote or said, but some-one's opinion of what they wrote and in fact a lot of nuances are lost forever because they are so specific to the culture it was spoken or written in !

also with religious writings translators seem unable to let go their view of themselves as being the “true arbiters” of what is said and as a result the translations are heavily biased to certain interpretations !

the original trumps the clichéd !

for gods sake, be original and yourself and your own experience, how ever pitiful what you have to say may seem, it's still 100x better than regurgitating crap!

if you don't know something, then you don't know? whats the big deal? self honesty is where it starts

mark, you are not speaking from that space that comes from your own certainty, but relying on others flawed bullshit !

if you don’t know that yourself, what can i say?

if you are in touch with buddha he/she/it will give you your own original take and words and the half assed quotes around will seem what they are, bullshit !

reguritating pap is regurgitating pap, you can call that enlightenment or awakening but i don’t

  women spit an egg into their uteruses once a month and this determines most human behavior

life is purposeless and has no beginning or ending

the harmony of waves of a calm sea

breaking on the shore

this was in the asbestos ranges national park, ... on some sandhills looking at the sea in the morning .... i was just standing there looking and listening then i thought, well that's sorta sonorous cause the waves can really crash on this beach, but these were littles, just sorta percolating along

life is purposeless and has no beginning or ending

the harmony of waves of a calm sea

breaking on the shore

this was in the asbestos ranges national park, i was on some sandhills looking at the sea in the morning .... just standing there looking and listening then i thought, well that's sorta sonorous cause the waves can really crash on this beach, but these were littles, just sorta percolating along

life is purposeless and has no beginning or ending

the harmony of waves of a calm sea

breaking on the shore

our mania gives rise to ourselves

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between heaven and sky who am i

i see it again and again, malign, ill-targeted supplementation with an unquestioning over-reverence of medicine

message boards are like  tank battles

feel

like

a

tiger

among

shermans

there's

too

many

of

you

i

am

not

going

to

win

the

war

 am i ?

you raping conning pure da free john bullshitter

not to mention herpes spreader : o)

find a good lay , yeah john taught you well didn't he?

christ da free john was wordy bull all the way to the bank and the law courts and you reject sense like what i am writing

your

eyes

are

full

of

sperm

jesus i hate you creeps with your tantric bullshit and creepy crawly sleaziness

  you so little believe in the possibilty of the absolute you think that sex is no obscuration

fred, look at some videos with jim harrison  I    II    III ,  he actually says something interesting

you don't say anything, just a sheep rattle, you just gotta step back and be open to the proposition that since you don't do any real work in this area, how can you expect to have any sort of interesting insights ?

the hard fact is there is no solitude in a crowd, you need real solitude and substantial periods of it

i think suburban zen is the fiction that you can live with the wife, kids whatever and still get real insight

well

you

C

A

N

'

T

there's emptiness as an idea and emptiness as a fact and sadly or perhaps not sadly for most it remains an idea though they claim otherwise !

when you move into emptiness as a fact everything changes, there's huge energy and destructive and useful change and the blather of zen and advaita and christianity seems what it is, balther by slack no-nothing idiots

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  mark,  why not step beyond what you “think” and do some actual research !

i think people like you read about three words in a bad translation and think, well that's it, i now have agood feel for dogen !

what exactly did he have to say and why not quote and discuss it, not be some spaced out acolyte who can't be bothered writing anything except his own fatuities?

i am sorry you have so little feeling for mountains that you can think aperson would move there for so called political reasons, whatever you imagine them to be, he was being given ahard time in kyoto by other priests, but that's about it

why not read the mountains and rivers sutra, what was he talking about?

you fucked up pumped up stupid would be priest  : o )

what i have found reading dogen is most of his writing is rubbish, but occasionally you can actually work out what he was saying and it's the most amazing mysterious thing, it's like that poem of jim harrison's that is just below, you can read it and it makes sense

there's this whole industry around dogen as the deliberately obscure genius and that's how it's supposed to be with it's interpretors who are the translators and zen teachers and they know and you don't

but in fact it's the translations that are appallingly misguided and the voynich is swallowed whole by everybody

but the revelation is, when he is at his best and you can actually figure out what he was saying, it's just like that poem of jim harrison's, you can understand it !

Form in the woods; the beast,

a bobcat padding through red sumac,

the pheasant in brake or goldenrod

that he stalks – both rise to the flush,

the brief low flutter and catch in air;

and trees, rich green, the moving of boughs

and the separate leaf, yield

to conclusions they do not care about

or watch – the dead frayed bird,

the beautiful plumage,

the spoor of feathers

and slight, pink bones.

ersatz mysterion, yeah hunting competely changed my perspective too !

i don't shoot casually, i eat what i kill mostly and try for one shot kills, but all the same a barnes solid copper bullet (no lead in the carcass!) through an animal is a brutal business and tho people don't use guns on each other in normal life, that's basically how it is

vegetarianism, buddhism and religions generally try to create the illusion of some safe  “feel good”  space that one can exist in a blind comfort in but as brad warner is finding out with his health, it's just an illusion

interestingly the vegetarian sect hare krishna is known for it's high levels of domestic violence !

i honestly think that the chanting in hare krishna is a deliberately designed hypnotic drug to keep what is insane and so non-functional together

in a similar manner music is now used like that socially, the all pervasive synthetic media we are now immersed in !

fred, you are a woman btw, so you having sex is lesbian? was dogen a poof? likely given the zen track record for it  : o )

you guys live your suburban lives, pick up zen like it's some sort of sticky label and just plaster it over everything deliberately ignoring it was a supposedly abstinent and celibate tradition and completely crowd out any real work you might do in favour of sensual pleasures like sex and music where in reality a strong degree of abstinence is required to give real space for the sort of thought and work required

zazen is no substitute for abstinences and solitude !

there's no space sicker than this sort of bad suburban zen compromise that you live, but hey that's how it is usually implemented now !

you just need some time away by yourselves, none of you would write the way you do on this  board  with some proper solitude in natural beauty under your belts !

the retreats of that stupid christie mcnally bitch et al are not retreats, living with the boyfriend like that!

a couple of hours walk a week in an area of natural beauty rather than zazen and blathering on this board is what is needed, but hey, who wants to be real?

brad since you are going up to tassajara why not explore this ? you have obviously missed it to date !

why did dogen go and live in the mountains for god's sake?

my reply

fred you put that sort of voynich reply between you and any real dealing !

you people who write about dogen like that don't know anything about him, have done no reading on him beyond the usual promulgated blather

he used to love being out in the natural enviroment and by the time he had died was becoming like basho and discarding the zen crap entirely

you wouldn't have spent even an hour researching him, let alone the man months required to get a real feel for him

fred if you know so much and are so enlightened why can't you manage more than what a retarded 17 year old would say?

where is your real experience of solitude and all that it brings?

there

is

it

and

you

can't

disguise

it

so

why

not

be

honest?

yeah

you

crazy

S

H

I

T

efforts

we

go

to

to

avoid

being

alone

with

our

own

thoughts !

a self portrait perfect,

I see her colors and fingerprints,

all over my canvas.

reply

 in the same way men build things women deconstruct and build men  : o )

as

natural

for

poets

to

be

injured

as

birds

to

fly

as

natural

for

poets

to

be

injured

as

birds

to

fly

un-american

to

think

not

copy

be

original  !

it's

american

to

copy

rob

give

your

life

for

stupid

causes

and

be

very

very

wealthy

and

be

worshipped

because

of

that

wealth !

to

adults

the

plasticity

of

children

is

just

amazing

“ there is more discrimination against men these days than there is against women ”

  absolute fucking crap !

  try an islamic culture !

of course there is an awful lot of historical bullshit so i can't quite give it an all time historical high!

buddha and jesus are comic book characters and so are you !

fucking

way

no

fucking

way

for

sure

those

fuckwits !

“god” is just a word, but whatever it means, closed and ignorant is not it  : o )

ed. reply to a comment  on

martin scholler, a  photographer  i actually  like !

When you chain language

With antiquated constraints,

You have missed the point

exactly. imo haiku doesn't work in english except as vehicle for pretentious crap which it does admirably : o )

( ed. graham mcgregors  “marketing”  bullshit  column )

ultimately people buy products for utility and not personal impress !

who wants to be burdened with constant personal contact!

i don't know why the herald is giving space to this sort of nonsense

(ed. mcgregor deleted my reply, iron spikes beneath the honeyed talk  : o )

me

a

quiet

sea

the

gentle

dusk

and

moon

flecked

waters

over

a

woman

anyday

me

a

quiet

sea

the

gentle

dusk

and

moon

flecked

water

over

a

woman

anyday

are

truth

is

not !

the

crowds

are

truth

is

not!

looking

back

i

t

s

t

i

m

e

to

not

look

back !

a perfect plane

reflecting the glow

of autumnal trees

on the shore

above

a cloudless sky

the wind blows

as frigid as the waters

wouldn't the wind ripple the surface?

eileen replies

Unless it was a breeze that sprung up after the observations...

my reply  !

glow the dull autumnal trees

b

o

v

e

t

h

e

s

h

o

r

e

so full

of

the

tender

honeyed

joyful

suicidal

sweet

flowery

dripping

honey

sentimental

too

puking

bring

back

N

A

S

T

Y!

modern life i guess, not a genuine thought or sentiment anywhere !

not even plagiarisim, just some sort of dull “sad sack” universe, not experienced or felt in the slightest part genuinely !

how

they

ignore !

  quote  by marilyn munroe

be

unusual

simply

because

one

of

the

partners

died !

from

another

point of view things

 appear to not be distinct and occur again !

another

point of view things

appear to not be distinct and occur again !

men

are

not

realised

and

fornicate

with

ostriches

and

horses

and

tumble

around

and

go

up

and

down

and

only

enter

the

mountains

when

the

dirt

covers

their

bodies !!!!!!

“ wise ones and sages have made the mountains their own chambers, their own body and mind. and through these wise ones and sages the mountains have been actualized.

however many great sages and wise ones we suppose have assembled in the mountains, ever since they entered the mountains no one has met a single one of them.

there is only the actualization of the life of the mountains; not a single trace of their having entered remains ”

contemplation

recursion

bites

back

and

P

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UP

I

N

F

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at this time, because earth, grasses and trees, fences and walls, tiles and pebbles, all things in the dharma realm in ten directions, carry out buddha work, therefore everyone receives the benefit of wind and water movement caused by this functioning, and all are imperceptibly helped by the wondrous and incomprehensible influence of buddha to actualize the enlightenment at hand ”

warner

regarding

the

let

me

take

a

knife

and run it from

the

chin

through

the

throat

and

down

the

neck

and

maybe

crack

open

the

ribs

with

a

bolt

cutter

then

run

the

knife

down

through

the

belly

and

out

through

the

balls

and

the

end

of

the

penis

and

let

all

that

putrid

crap

come

out!

the diseased zen crap about  “true self ”  and the blathering from the psycho dogen gets my goat, but i was just looking at this  video  about the egyptian mummies and tombs and their underground palaces for the pharaoh to live in the afterlife and which is more crazy?

no answer to that one and that is how humans and animate life has always been, wants to continue in one form or another !

  got better things to do than give life to those sickos !

suckers !  : o )

ed.  last comment on the hczb, good riddance to abunch of sleezy leeches : o )

humans are a gender blurred species

sexual orientation is only one part, you can get very gender mixed male and female heterosexuals

“half a bee”  is actually a pretty good  example  of voynich !

the eric  skit

you cannot speak of  “understanding”  in terms of utility to the world, in fact it is usually the opposite tho for survival's sake you have to bridge some survival/non-survival no-man's land

fact

both

brad

warner

and

myself

all

do

that

that

they

miss

what

it's

really

about

just passing

the

time

pissing

into

a

urinal

both

of

them !

words

one

can

create

any

sort

of

fake

reality

seen

it

time

and

time

again

the

speakers/

writers

have

no

interest

in

it

being

otherwise !

words

one

can

create

any

sort

of

fake

realities

seen

it

time

and

time

again

the

speakers/

writers

have

no

interest

in

it

being

otherwise !

words

one

can

create

any

sort

of

fake

realities

seen

it

time

and

time

again

the

speakers/

writers

have

no

interest

in

it

being

otherwise !

feeling

a

bit

better

because

i

couldn't

feel

any

worse

feeling

a

bit

better

because

i

couldn't

feel

any

worse

you

are

not

distracted

by

people

infinity

emerges

am

glad

to

hear

you

are

different

perhaps

revolving

in tiny

narrow

worlds

call

it

enlightenment  !

revolving

in tiny

narrow

worlds

call

it

enlightenment !

a

quiet

satisfaction

in

an

involvement

ended

perhaps  ; o )

always suppose

there's

nothing

to

see

and you

won't

be

disappointed

and

you

will

be

disappointed

there's

nothing

to

see

and you

won't

be

disappointed

and

you

will

be

disappointed

i have advice on fish oil on my pages, it will help, but there are other things as well and i am not optimistic about what is happening with you, but we are designed to just breed and be disposed of which is the paradigm for most  : o )

too bad about the navy, i really think the vaccination schedules in the armed services are crucifying and half the problem with afghanistan and iraq is the way they cripple servicemen with too many vaccines given at once !

the other problem is getting involved in tribal wars that have been going on for thousands of years ; o )

people like anything they agree with and if they are wrong in the first place? the proof of the pudding is writers block which is a symptom of an atrophying brain........

you can't handle what i am writing, that should wake you up to something ! : o )

the thing with health is right or wrong we bear the consequences, it only matters our ourselves and close family.......

in ten years you won't be able to deny..............

i'm not trying to be abrasive, but the reality is like your poetry, lacks something but you are capable of more

you are in the foothills of something that will rip your head off in 10 in 15 years

imo ; o )

the way you are eating is W R O N G, i just know from the effect and writing poetry displays a person very deeply : o )

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can't

say

more

biofilm is a complex community of bacteria, viruses and fungi and what's in your gut and somewhat or very out of control for the people on this board!

actually the usa is now a nightmare of out of control viral, biofilm and developmental issues, in part from your abusive and unscientific vaccine program which is messes the natural immune system's control of the gut biofilm !

i'm a bit suspicious you are in the foothills of pre-diabetes because you don't seem to be very flexible or able to consider new ideas and the sad reality of diabetes is the brain gets slowly fried !

short attention span and somewhat flicky?

been there  ; o )

insomnia?  emily dickinson didn't sleep well and died at age 56 !

any culture that starbucks and macdonalds were born in deserves what it gets which is actually the worlds worst health!  : o )

(excepting gross protein shortage)

you are not replying to me because you don't have a problem !

bit of a no-brainer actually with anyone who writes : o )

i do have people who try to imitate my writing style, but i have yet to see one who manages it, sorta weak and like dishwater compared to my P U N C H !

oh and drug addicts and drunks?

that's the usual poetic profile of course : o )

it's the painful decay i can do without, an early sudden death does not seem to be on the cards : o )

if you are drinking a fruit juice for a rush you could already be pre diabetic

vege juices are not very digestible and create problems, rather than help

when i read what comes through hello potery everybody seems well below their neural potential

anyway i have some pages on the biofilm carbohydrate diet and supplement program

that

you

will

read

people

seem

incapable

of

leaving

their

disaster

course !

smooth

river

indeed !

i can get good lamb brains here in australia, fish oil helps as well as a few other things like adequate sun on the skin and vitamin D!

but really a well nourished brain just floods the words  ; o )

lol, some men see the predator prey relationship in reverse, perhaps they see more truely ? .