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Sleepless in Fulham: Rambling and gambling by David Young
Tuesday, 9 August 2005
Just to make a change.
Topic: Religion
You've probably read a lot of pieces about Islamic extremists supporting the bomb attacks in London, so just to make a change I'm going to link to some support from the attacks that come from a Christian preacher.

It is of course from Fred Phelps, whom I have mentioned before. He's really surpassed himself with this expression of support for the bombing and the wish that more had died.

Wednesday, 10 August 2005 - 10:09 AM BST

Name: Jan Sjavik

Sorry to interrupt here, David, but would you please send me an email? I need to know yours and Neil Channings email adress...

Wednesday, 10 August 2005 - 11:07 AM BST

Name: JayBee

Come, friendly air liners, fall on us now.

Beaten before the final conflict.

Wednesday, 10 August 2005 - 12:39 PM BST

Name: Commie Boy

Hi David

I'm fairly sure it was the same bloke, but did you ever get hold of the Michael Moore episode when he chases him around with the "Sodo-mobile?" It's absolutely brilliant. I highly recommend it if you fancy watching the prick get made to look even more of a prick.



Wednesday, 10 August 2005 - 12:55 PM BST

Name: David Young

Just did a hunt for it on google and it was indeed the same man whom Moore ambushed. Phelps doesn't have a large following and to an extent both Moore and I are reaching for low-hanging fruit when we expose him. What's interesting for me is that everything Fred does is genuinely understandable once you believe in the existence of hell in the afterlife, which I don't.

If you think that someone is headed for an eternity of damnation in hell, then attacking them for a finite period while they are alive in an attempt to make them change their ways is morally unimpeachable. Fred claims he's the only friend the 'fags' have.

But I can't help thinking that the idea of fire and brimstone for sinners brings out the sadist in some people and Fred is a prime example. For all the talk of love, remember that there is a lot of hate in the bible also.


Thursday, 11 August 2005 - 12:01 AM BST

Name: JayBee

This is another thing that makes the socialists/liberals stand out as fools.

Standing up for a Muslim's rights... which includes their hatred/execution of homosexuals.

How do Galloway and Livingstone sleep at night pondering that???

Thursday, 11 August 2005 - 12:58 PM BST

Name: Commie Boy

Can I presume then that I can be thrown into that comment? Being a wussy liberal, pinko scumbag, I guess I must have trouble sleeping at night as well.


Thursday, 11 August 2005 - 2:56 PM BST

Name: David Young

Being a wussy liberal, pinko scumbag, I guess I must have trouble sleeping at night as well.

Not necessarily. What James is saying is that Livingstone and Galloway have both embraced people with homophobic views. Have you done that?

Come to think of it, what is your take on Fidel Castro and Che Guevara's homophobia? Don't you use Che as your avatar on Pokerstars?


Thursday, 11 August 2005 - 3:04 PM BST

Name: David Young

For some background on Cuba's past and present treatment of gays, check out Peter Tatchell at:


Friday, 12 August 2005 - 12:33 PM BST

Name: Commie Boy

Correct David, Che is my Avatar on Pokerstars. However, I have yet to find a single other human being who agrees with everything I agree with. Even people I greatly admire (Che and Fidel among others) have beliefs that I completely disagree with. Homosexuality being the most prominent in this case.

If we only ever admired those people who believed exactly the same as us on every single subject, we'd end up thinking everyone else on the planet was nuts and we were the greatest.



Incidentally, another hero of mine is Bob Marely. Now whilst he is not on record saying anything about homosexuality, it is reasonable to assume that with his Christian beliefs and coming from jamaica, he would have been homophobic. Should this mean that I can't respect other stuff about him? Same goes for Fidel and Che. Unfortunatly, without actually talking to the person directly, you never know what one person thinks about another or why.

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