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Mx: Max Tollkopf(sp?)- Host

J: John

R: Robby

Mx: Tonight we are back in LA. Like we never left I was actually in NY for 2 was. Hardest 2weeks of my life

J: What ya' do in NY

Mx: you don't want to know

J: started crawling around the bowery (both are laughing)

Mx: there was a lot of that

Mx: ummm,(sarcastically)ya' know our guests tonight are first timers to the show, and I just want to say where you guys from? And where did you did that name Goo Goo Dolls?...(Robby is giggling).....that was one intro the other one is

J: what's the other one?

Mx: the stupendousness and humongosity of you guys is so huge now.

J: are you kidding?

Mx: whatever those words mean... that I'm surprised that you actually visit our little show

J & R: (both saying) .......oh, stop

J: and we brought, and we bring gifts

Mx: and you bring gifts

J: we brought, we brought baked potato chips and, and bi, libations

Mx: what you did, you brought me an alcoholic drink and as you know the host is not supposed to drink and host

J: I know, I know well you can't do that. I'm making sure that you don't do it and when the ice melts I'll drink it

R: (in his very low,sexy voice) we're watching you Tollkopf.

Mx: so Goo Goo Dolls tonight actually we have Robby. Say hi Robby

R: Hi Robby.

Mx: good to have you back

R: good, good to be back

Mx: and Mr Rezezenik (butcher's his name on purpose) it's good to see you

J: (laughing)thanks a lot, ah, thanks a lot, thanks a lot for that

Mx: ok, now we'd like to say hi to Mike as well

R: yeah we don't know where Mike is tonight

J: I'll be Mike tonight, here give me that microphone

R: hang on

J: I'm going to be Mike

Mx: ok, where the hell is Mike

R: well you didn't have to say he wasn't here

J: (imitating Mike) Hi

Robby: (giggling) yeah it's Hi I'm Mike

J: (imitating Mike again) Hi

Mx: don't you think it would have been a little obvious that we'd be talking and there would be no Mike so we have sorta acknowledge it

R: Well he could a just went, he could have just went Hi I'm Mike and then we could have just sat this down

Mx: do we know that Mike is on his way

J: no, we don't know where Mike is

R: we don't where Mike is

J: Mike if you're listening somewhere, just, just come here will ya'

R: yeah please it's just not the same

J: alright

Mx: alright, I have something for you guys

J: oooohhh.....see it's such a lovefest every time we come here

Mx: we have gifts ...(both R&J are oohing and aahing) I found some instant dyno activity kit, their like dinosaurs and gelcaps

J: excellent , excellent you know what dude

R: I've had those

J: look at these ....I took some these at a party once, I couldn't, I couldn't, listen, I was a slow guy for a few days....(they are all laughing and Max say something else but I can't make it out)

Mx: Robby for you I have the adventures of Joe Bender the bendable wire hero

R: OMG and there's a Joe Bender in there

J: he's so cool, ya' see Joe Bender would make a really good....(gets cut off)

Mx: and for Mike we had Crazy paints and we still have those

J: crazy pants?

R: well perhaps, well perhaps we'll split Mike's crazy paints

Mx: now, for the piece du resistance, I've had this in my garage for like the last.....

J: yes

R: this is not what I think it is

J: yes, is this?

Mx: this is the scrammy

J: the scrammy

R: OMG

Mx: which is finally done

R: this is sorta of become legend

Pulls it out and they are both oohing and aahing, OMGing

Mx: that the think my dad made

J: your dad made it?

Mx: cause you guys got blown out at the grammy's

J: yeah, we got blown out again this year too

Mx: there it is

J: that is soooo nice, you know what tell your dad,

Mx: the official ceramic scrammy

R: that is amazing

J: does daddy-o listen?

Mx: he use to

R: he use to? What happened?

Mx: he's bored with show (Robby busts out laughing)

J: you know what I'm going to do, I'm going to do with the scrammy what I was going to do with the grammy

Mx: you're going to drink out of it

J: I'm drinking out of...

Mx: Johnny is now drinking out of the scrammy

R: yes, yes, wonderful

Mx: very good

J: aaah....that sweet taste of success

R: and you know what he's drinking? He's drinking the official drink of the Buffalo bowlers

J: yes, I'm drinking the official,the official drink of the Buffalo bar league bowling thing

Mx: have you been back there lately, what's going on in Buffalo?

R: no

J: I'm going back there in a couple weeks

Mx: what's going on in your hometown?

J: I'm getting a lawn put in my house

R: nice

J: cause the dog burned the other one out

Mx: really?

R: Burnt it out?

Robby's giggling.......they are all laughing

Mx: as in

J: burnt out the lawn,man

Mx: as in, burnt out the lawn

J: so the landlord calls and says (using a voice to imitate the landlord) What the hell's your dog doing to my lawn? ...I'm like what? I'm not even there. And then, and then I call Laurie and I'm like what the hell is the dog doing to the yard?....(kinda makes a groaning sound) so she's like, so she wanted to have a big party and replant the lawn cause she has 19 brothers and sisters so they were all going to come over and replant the lawn. And I was like, forget it call the Batavia Turf Farm, ya know, get instant lawn.

Mx: I don't understand you guys could now probably buy huge undeveloped tracts of upstate NY, at this point in time and the dog can anywhere he wants

J: yeah, yeah well especially around Love Canal you can get that stuff (cracking up) reeeallly cheap

Mx: really cheap (all of them are giggling)

J: picking up some bargains up there

Mx: alright, so another song that is now getting attention of radio off of DUTG is Broadway

R: it's a great song

Mx: are you surprised at this? Ya' know that we are still mining data off this record

J: yeah, I'm really, I'm shocked at what ,at what an anomaly this record is, cause I mean, ya know, you know the way things are now

Mx: yeah, I know

R: it's weird

J: you had the BSB anytime soon?

Mx: Backstreet Boys want to do some stuff with you

J: yeah I'm sure

Mx: none of it having anything to do with music by the way....(they are all laughing).. they want to

J: they want to kill me, that's what they want

Mx: GGD's with us tonight for the entire show.....let's listen to Broadway and then we'll come back

They play Broadway and then there is the typical intro MRL.

Mx: joining us here are Robby, John and Mi ...ah....hey, Mike was just here what happened to him?

R: I don't know

J: He had to go pee

Mx: what happened?Alright, GGDs. Two thirds of the GGD are here. Mike apparently thought he was attending an opening of Krispy Kreme.

J: yes

Mx: he got sidetracked somewhere Tells everyone to call if they have questions and tells them that whoever gets on the air tonight will get a copy of DUTG, John adds that they will autograph them. Then Max tells them his idea about asking each caller what path they should take on their next album. Discussion begins about what categories to have punk, post punk, techno, swing(John says he's working on his dance moves), ska,(Robby says) reggae, or covers of Joni Mitchell records.

J: I love Joni Mitchell

Mx: I'm going to take a running tally

J: Max has got his pen out

Mx: then they can ask whatever they want to ask but we should find out first what direction your listeners think the GGDs should go in. Is that alright?

J: can I tell you a funny story?

Mx: yeah

J: I was in San Francisco this week. Guy walks up to me on the street. He's is some band. His band just got signed they were working with John Kolaudner (sp?)the very famous, the industry icon that nobody in the real world knows but he's very famous in this world. Um...(laughs) So....so he walks up to me and he says "Hey man, ya' know what?, my band just opened for Korn over at the dadada arena ya' know" and I was like "Yeah, that's cool" I'm just standing on the street, ya' know. Then he said "Man,I really don't like your band man but I saw the Behind the Music, man and I thought you were pretty cool after." (he's laughing and he says sarcastically) and I was like "Thanks buddy". That's all I needed was that.

Mx: OMG, that's all you needed on the streets of San Francisco

Takes a call from Joanna- Hartford CT...she picks punk as the direction for them

Mx: punk? (goes through choices again they add rap/metal)

Mx: oh, we forgot the rap/metal

J: ya' want us....we have to find a guy who plays the turntable, Max you've been a DJ in your life?

Mx: yes

R: you can wiggy, wiggy with the best of them

Mx: yeah, I'll be like the big bald fat guy turntable dude in a big sweatsuit (all are laughing)

J: now it's our turn to ask the questions. I want to reach out to the audience tonight everybody knows all about us, they are sick of us, I'm bored of us (Robby is giggling away in the background) So what's it like to grow up in the insurance capital of the world?

Joanna: says babbles about not really living in Hartford but East Chatham. Then tells them she met them.

J: we're we jerks to you?

R: did we offer you potato salad, chicken salad? She tells them it was at a radio station and she gave them drawings she had done of them.

J: yeah, I swear to God I remember that

Mx: you remember this?

J: she's a very pretty girl that's why I remember Then she asks if their tour manager gave them the drawing she had done of the 3 or them

J: no, and you know why?...p-r-i-c-k on this?

Mx: you just did. You can spell it

J: he's a prrrrr

R: 1,2,3,4 .....ick (giggling)

J: I'll have to shake him down for them next week. He's probably selling them on Ebay.(J&R are cracking up) Everybody sell our stuff on Ebay. (merchandising:-)) They say their goodbyes to her.

Liz from Washington ...they go through the choices again and then...

J: or, or I've been working on my dance moves and I think we should just play to tapes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sport my new dance moves

R: ok, we'll add that

Liz: my friend will kill me if I don't say ska, but I mean I don't know, I like what you guys were doing last album and all the albums before so.

J&R: thanks

J: that's option, we could just be ourselves So then she asks her question like she doesn't realize she is talking to Johnny.

Liz: at the end of Slide Johnny like mumbles something and I have tried everything to get it down and I kinda wanted to no if you knew what it was?

J: if I knew what it was?

Mx: I know what it is

J: Max knows what it is but he's a trained professional (R. is giggling). (J. clears his throat ) Umm.....But I said something about a girl climbing into my bed with me. That's, that's what it was.

Mx: that's not what I thought it was

J: what did you think it was

Mx: Paul is dead

J: Oh, Paul is dead. Alright, ok, so secret is out. I said something....it wasn't really a sexual reference....(hems and haws).....it was just me going climb into to bed with me and we'll cuddle up and......(trails off....then laughs)

Mx: ok

Jessica from Jacksonville....she picks Joni Mitchell cover tunes.

J: I love Joni Mitchell, Max are you familiar with the Blue record?

Mx: yes I am

J: so good and a lot of people they don't know about...the young people don't know about

R: the whipper snappers

J: those young whipper snappers

Mx: Jessica how old are you?

Then Jessica tells about how she has tried to meet the guys for 3yrs and wants to know if they will just take a piece of paper and sign it and send it to her.

During her explanation

J: is she stoned?

J: sign a piece of paper and send it to you?

R: yeah, we can do that

J: sure why not? We'll get you off the air

Mx: we'll get you off the air

J: and the wonderful engineer here will get your name & address and send that right out to you. Can we ask you a question?

Jessica: sure

J: wait, where is she from?

Mx: Jacksonville, FL

J: Isn't that the home of Molly Hatchet?

R: I believe it's the home of Lynard Skynard, actually

J: or it that Gainesville

Jessica: Skynard

J: Do you like the southern rock?

Jessica: (grunts & mumbles)...it's ok

J: It's ok?,you sound sleepy, are you tired darlin'

Jessica: no

R: it's late there

J: are you stoned?

Jessica: (whines) no

J: yes, you are. You're on the weed, your whacked up on the weed.

Jessica: I have never done drugs

J: Really?

R: God bless you

They say their goodbyes....then Max gives the scoop about calling and that they are looking for a direction for the new album

J: cause we're lost

Mx: it's not that you're lost we just thought we'd poll some people and find out...

R: our drummer can't even find his way here, man.

J: seriously, how many bands seven records?

R: he's, he's probably, he's probably driving around Studio City

J: how many bands are working on their seventh record?

Mx:I don't know

J: that still exist

R: not a lot

J: we're lost

They play Dizzy when they come back they are all laughing (especially Robby)

Mx: it's like a vacation when you guys are here. You've been here like twelve times and we just have fun

J: we're on the payroll

Mx: it's good to have you back

J: they keep us on standby, we come and hang out here in front of the studio, we're like napping in the car

R: just in case Lenny Kravitz don't show up(in a funny voice, giggling)

J: yeah, in case Lenny Kravitz doesn't show up

Mx: talk about (clears his throat) interesting interviews, um

J: have you seen our new video?

Mx: no I haven't, tell me, we were just talking, I had no idea you were in a plane crash, that you played on an aircraft carrier, that you were playing in Bosnia and that your manager Pat Magnarella is actually working you way too hard.

R: yes he is

J: and ya' know his wife had the foresight to not let him come with us. She called me on the phone, well I called him, and she picked up the phone and said "Pat's not going with you" (laughs)

R: I suppose we should tell people what happened

R: I suppose we should tell people what happened

Mx: is the aircraft carrier/plane crash thing related?

R: everything you just mentioned happened in like 8 days

J: ya' know what happened....we,we decided right around Christmas we were gonna do, ya' know, in the spirit of Bob Hope, ya' know, cause he's kinda just, ya' know, we wanted to go see the troops. We met a lot of service guys and gals when we were out touring. We played a couple of military bases in the states and they told us about their,ya' know, their comrades in arms, I guess,(laughs)or whatever.

R: sure, that works.

J: and umm... so we hooked something up, they gave us our own airplane

R: right

J: which was very nice until we found out it was older than all of us and we flew over to Europe and played a bunch of shows

R: we played Ramstein (they debate the pronunciation of the base)

Mx: so where was the plane crash

J: what happened was the last show we did was in Bosnia, on a military base in Bosnia, pretty much what it was a tent with an 8' wide 8' high concrete blocks around it and, and

R: and snow up to your...... nibblets

J: depending on how tall you are (j laughs and r says nibblets again) up to your stuff....umm.....so we did the show and we got outta there and we ran right to where the plane was, got on the plane and it was snowing

R: we have explained tho....the show was like...

J: the show was amazing because it was like..

R: it was like a 1000 people or maybe less, maybe 800 people in like fatigues w/ guns

J: and they all had machine guns cause it's still like, I guess it's like a hot zone

R: yeah

Mx: so they're attending the show with the guns?

R: they are crowd riding

J: they're crowd riding with machine guns

R: with grenades (j cracks up) on their belts it's the weirdest thing

J: we're exaggerating a little but it's good, it doesn't matter if it's crap it's still a good story

R: actually, actually just to back track a couple of days, 2 days before that we were in the middle of the Persian Gulf playing on an aircraft carrier

J: we were on the USS Kennedy, if anyone can actually hear us we want to say hi to you guys

R: do you do arm forces radio with this

Mx: I'm sure. Short wave, long wave

J: It was awesome, I have never some many people work so hard and a, a.....

R: focused

Mx: alright can we just cut to the ...

J: we're going to cut to the chase ...we fly out of Bosnia and it's snowing and we have to fly to Sicily to

R: to change ....

J: crews or whatever anyway...so there's a giant thunderstorm, like an unbelievable t-storm, which in my opinion and it's just my opinion....umm, they probably....

R: as someone who's not in the aviation field

J: as a novice

Mx: you're thinking we should not be landing

J: we should not be landing cause the guy tried to land

R: 3 times

J: 3 times pulled out had to circle around, do it again, do it again, do it again and then the 4th time it was like KABOOM! And, and, and the stewardess started screaming MAYDAY, MAYDAY grab your ankles,

Mx: No

J: I thought she was kidding

R: yeah, yeah

J: so we started hearing....... all the lights went out, the luggage compartment collapsed on top of us the thing skidded off the runaway, one of the engines was smoking like crazy

R: the wing hit a bunch of stuff and one of the wheels broke right off Sound effects and they are talking over each other....

Mx: how come this did not make news, was this on the news, did anyone hear about this

R: it did

J: it did, well ya' know it's a big government coverup (r cracks up), but uh...us and the UFOs

R: from the files of J Edgar Hoover (giggling)

They go to break come back and play Slide ...comes back with intro

J: it always sounds better on your show

Mx: it does? It's the compression, broadcast...(mumbles)

J: I thought, I thought it was the love that it was played with Max does promo for future shows

Mx: Johnny and Robby from GGDs are with us tonight. Mike is MIA, we don't know where he is, he hasn't called in

R: he's like the most responsible guy I know

J: MIA Mike in absentia

Mx: Mike in absentia Lauren from Atlanta (they thought she was calling from Buffalo cause she was listening to a Buffalo radio station on the internet)

J: you know what like?

Lauren: what

J: you know what I like the fact that we haven't talked to one guy tonight.

Lauren: yeah you always have girl callers

J: I know I'm so happy

Lauren: I'm sorry if that bothers you

J: no, it doesn't bother me at all I told you I was happy She picks "straight up rock" for the next album

Lauren: I love all your albums

J: leave it the way it is and sorta just make the next natural move

Lauren: yeah

J: I think that's what's going to wind up happening

Lauren: don't go with any fads cause you guys are awesome

J: but I just bought some plastic pants (j and r are giggling) I've got to do something with them

Mx: Lauren what's your question?

L: I was wondering if you have seen any movies you like recently or if you have any old favorites that you watch over and over again

J: wow, that's a good....yeah, actually my favorite movie, my favorite movie of all time....well "It's a Wonderful Life" was removed cause I really loved that movie

Mx: you did not

J: yes, I did (said like he was a 10yr old defending his choice:-)) You don't understand the dark corrupt life I had before I saw that movie (r is laughing at him) my favorite is by a really great famous director Billy Wilder who did some great movies with Marilyn Monroe "Some like it Hot" and he made a movie with James Cagney called "1-2-3" where he is the head of the Coca-Cola bottling company in Germany right at the time when they were putting up the Berlin wall. It is a fantastic, it is possibly one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life.

R: we saw that on the big screen

Mx: I have a whole new respect for you

J: What, What you'd think (in a "Rocky" dufus voice) uh!...I like "Mortal Combat 3" uh.....that's my favorite movie

R: I like to watch that tape I got out of the glove box in my VW bug

Mx: we are talking to the guys who gave me "Iron Eagle 3" as gift

J: yes

R: also a classic film

J: don't start with Louis Gossett, Jr., alright

Mx: Robby what's yours

R: um... uh...I actually saw a movie that I didn't think I was going to like called "Detroit Rock City" did you see that?

Mx: no I didn't. Was it good?

R: yeah, It's sorta an odd tragedy sorta in a weird way

J: you know what else is a really brilliant movie too? Which I actually saw and I hate Bruce Willis (laughs) but I love this movie

Mx: Sixth Sense? (groans)

J: Sixth Sense

R: yeah it was a good movie

J: c'mon Max

R: c'mon Max

J: you're a sensitive guy, you're sensitive man

R: Hey, if you had any hair on the back of your neck it would have stood up

J: no, wait a minute, why didn't you like the Sixth Sense?

Mx: it was boring I slept thru most of it, it was boring

R: Really (amazed)

Mx: not that I knew what was going to happen but I think they were just playing us along(my comment: duh...that's the point of the movie.....if you haven't see the movie they give away the ending so don't read this:-)) why couldn't he figure out that he was dead when he was talking to the kid's mom?

J: I guess I'm not as smart as you, Max, I'm sorry (sarcastically, R is giggling) I didn't figure it out until the end, ok?

Mx:I didn't figure it out until the end, either

J: I'm going back to my cage with the other primates

Mx: no... but you named some movie, I have all new respect for you

J: "1-2-3" , it's a great movie you should really, really check it out They take a call from Jenny from Washington DC she says

Jen: I think they should just stay how they are

J: can I asked you something

Jen: you can

J: how do you feel about the way modern music is going these days?

Jen: I love it, I've been buying all these new CDs, lately

J: well who ya' listening to? Cause I want to buy some new CDs but I don't like anything

Jen: Vertical Horizon

J: Oh....they're a good band

Jen: you guys are actually playing with them when you come down here

J: Really?

Jen: on May 20th

R: where are you?

Jen: Washington D.C.

J: D. C., I know, that's so cool I'm so excited to play in Washington

R: Hey, could you give me that date again the information is a little slow from the office,man( J is laughing)

J: (R is giggling, again:-)) yeah I believe it's the 20th of May, the 20th of May we're playing Washington D.C. I hope I get some time to go to the Smithsonian.

Mx: Robby make sure Mike knows about this

J: yeah, he's going to ride his bike there

They say their goodbyes to Jen and play Acoustic #3

R: Max? Max?

J: Max?, you're awake? What a professional you are (R giggling) you're such a professional you woke up right when the red light came on

R: it's a short song

Mx: (whispers) I see dead people (this line is from the movie--Sixth Sense)

J: I see dead people Hope calls from Philly, PA her choice for direction of the new album

H: I was originally going to answer Barbra Streisand but if I have to give an honest answer I just say stay how they are

Mx: stay how they are

J: stay how they are, seems pretty good

Mx: wow, that's 4 votes for stay how there are

J: now can we ask you a question Asks how it is to live in Philly and she whines about wanting move anywhere else Buffalo or Northern CA where her grandma lives

J: are you going to go there for college or something

H: yeah, I want to go to Stanford

R: Well, Oh well

J: that's nice, Stanford's nice

H: I haven't actually ever seen it

J: neither have I

Mx: no, none of us have

J: they wouldn't let me in, max did you go to college?

Mx: No I did not

J: and see you're a self made man, a very successful man

Mx: I went to one yr in Syracuse

J: oh, you're an Orangeman, ay. I got thrown out

Mx: thrown out?

J: I got thrown out of Buff State cause I had this little thing going

R: call the GGDs(cracks himself up)

J: yes, I got thrown out cause of the band but mostly what my thing was there was this very window that most people didn't know about where you could, where you could, sign up for a full load and then, and then there was a day where you could like drop the 2 classes you were failing and the go to school fart, part, fart time (they are now all belly laughing) PART time

Mx: fasten your seat belts

J: part time and still get financial aid

Mx: really?

J: yeah

Mx: ok

J: (jokingly)be all you can be kids

Bob from Grand Rapids

J: Bob are you going to tell us we're sissies?

B: no you guys aren't sissies, you guys are pretty cool They asked about the direction of the band's next album running thru the choices again this time adding "Message in a Bottle"

J: where are you calling from

B: Sparta MI

J: is that anywhere near Romulas (sp?)

B: yeah

J: yeah, you're right by the airport. We have so many friends in Detroit

R: We're going to be there soon actually

J: I want to say hi to my good buddy Holly Padrosy(sp?)

Mx: give a genre

J: max, is moving the show along

B: punk or message in a bottle

J: message in a bottle

R: message in a bottle like (laughing)

J: it's so like faux reggae, what do think is going to happen in music in the next 5 yrs? Bob has no answer to this question

Mx: what's your question

B: do you guys enjoy making your music videos

J: you know we actually been having a lot of fun making videos with our good friend Nancy Bartiweil she's very, she's an excellent director

R: It's nice when you finally find someone you can trust

Mx: oh, you've been using her for awhile?

R and J: both saying five videos

R: and we got a free set of steak knives(cracks himself up)

J: it's hilarious, our guys in the front office said ...so this is our 5th video do we get a free set of steak knives?(R is totally cracking up) So the guy who owns the video company went out he got, he bought us a set of steak knives and put them on a plaque that said 5 videos free steak knives then he had the name of each video engraved on the blade on each knife

R: it's hilarious

Mx: wow

J: (thru his teeth) which I'm sure someone is going to stick in my back someday

R: but when you find someone who, who it's fun to make videos with you kinda stick with them because you don't have to worry to much

J: yeah

Mx:that's right

J: we were talking a little bit about the last video which is sort of a, it's sort of, actually Bobcat Goldwait(sp?)the excellent comedian, he wrote the video

Mx: he wrote the video

J: he wrote the video and we tried to get him to be in it but he didn't want to be in

R: he didn't want to be in it

J: so, but he wrote a really brilliant , funny video treatment, which a treatment is like a script and um....not for you (talking to Max) for the people in the audience

Mx: nah, for me too

J: but he wrote this video treatment called the "Pop Star Factory" where they have kind of schubby blue collar guys going..

R: schubby?

J: schubby! Blue collar guys going into a factory then they lead them down a conveyor belt and drop them into these chairs and then they pulled the chairs go back and these two...um..like evil construction workers came in at them with a makeup brush and an eyelash curler and they, they start putting them all together and assembling these pop stars and then

R: and they are us

J: they are us and then there are some other pop icons that were in the video as well yeah, and in the middle of the video we take a lunch break and guys pull their shirts and open up their girdles and (vvmmm sound effect) their stomachs all came flying

R: took their wigs off

J: and took their wigs off and it was so much fun to make

Mx: Do you know Bob? How did you know him?

J: yeah, well he was, he was supposed to....we did an album a bunch of yrs ago.....ummmm

R: called "No Alternative"

J: called "No Alternative" and they asked if we wanted to do the video, we did a cover of the Rolling Stones song "Bitch" and umm .... and umm.... What happened was we said we want this guy to make the video because his idea was so amazing and funny and brilliant and he had directed a feature film at that time

Mx: "Shakes the Clown"

J: "Shakes the Clown" which is an amazing brilliant movie

R: absolutely

J: and Arista said "no way". Ol' Clive Davis came down hard. (starts talking in a funny voice to imitate Clive) he said " Ah, what the hell are you thinking?"

R: that guy's is a loose cannon

J: that guy's nuts but actually he's a great writer and he made a great video

Mx: We're back on MRL on a Sunday. It's all GGDs all the time tonite

J: yes (R is giggling)

Mx: can't believe it, I'm still thinking about the airplane story

J: yeah, it's pretty insane, ya' know you guys have Hong Kong Fooy in your, in your little intro. You know who the voice of HKF is?

Mx: who?

J: Scatman Crothers

R: there you go

Mx: really?

J: yeah, why would I lie to you?

Mx: you are a wealth of....

J: useless (giggling) information

Mx: Who wants to be a millionaire info

Jo from Biloxi, MS calls in

J: JO!(says it like he thought Jo was a guy)

Jo: Jo, yeah

J: JO! What's up Jo?

Jo: It's a great place live down here in Biloxi

J: I've, we've been to Biloxi, yeah, it's very beautiful

Mx: asks her to choose the one of options like before

Jo: here's what I think they should do, they should not try anything as far as change the way their music is whatever has happened to get you this far it's working

R: there's a stay the course

Jo: I think you should just allow themselves to grow as musicians like you're doing

J: ok, that's a stay the course, ok good, it's nice to know that people want us to just be us

Jo: my question is I want to know how you've stayed so focused and not been caught up in the success and glamour like so many musicians tend to do and it really shows in their videos

R: our manager doesn't give us any days off to enjoy ourselves. So we can't...

J: (in the background says, laughing) he hits me

R: go out get drug habits and ya' know, ya' know like date models

J: he slaps me around

Mx: you know they had a day off last year and Pat the manager said I think it's time to do something with the muppets ( R is giggling) so instead of the day off I turn on the TV and there you guys are singing with Elmo.

R: yeah

J: yeah, you're still watching Sesame Street that's so good

Mx: it is amazing isn't it?

J: it's, it's the little maxies around the house

Mx: what happened?

J: the little minis

Mx: Did we have to do that?

R: yeah of course we did

J: we had to do that

Mx: c'mon

J: cause it's so cool

R: we've focusing intently of the age 4-9 (then J and R say in stereo) demographic

J: we had a marketing meeting

R: yeah

J: (laughing) and decide

R: I don't know it came up, we thought it'd be cool. I saw, I saw Stevie Wonder on there when I was a kid. I said to our publicist one day, our publicist Mary, I said it would be great if we could do this and she said "I'll call them" and within days it, it......

J: yeah, it was all hooked up. You know what is really cool? Um... I still watch Sesame Street you know if I'm in a hotel room and (makes a sound effect for flipping channels) flipping threw channels it's either CNN or PBS and then Sesame Street is on and some of it is still really amazing.

R: I kind of dig everything that goes on on Sesame Street but when they break away to the playgrounds and stuff

Mx: yeah

R: I don't really dig that stuff

Mx: what if they go to the zoo?

R: well if they go to playgrounds or the zoo

Mx: is this like TRL live only the Sesame Street version?

R: well they break away they do like breakaway things when they come back to Sesame Street

J: it's amazing, like the set there and to see how they actually pull that show off every single day really it's an amazing feat it really is.

Mx: Meghan from Buffalo

J: (to Mx)what? You hate, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on a second Meghan, you hate Sesame Street don't you

Mx: I don't hate Sesame Street

J: well then what the hell you doing watching it? (laughs) ( R busts up, that giggle is contagious) c'mon dude

J: Meghan in the hot seat

R: are you really in Buffalo or are you just listening to an internet station?

Meg: I'm in Toronto and I get it

J: wait a minute, you're in Toronto but your from Buffalo?

Meg: no I'm in Toronto but I get the station from Buffalo

J: oh....from 103.3, the edge

(then he makes sound effects from the edge)

Meg picks punk cause she loves the 1st album The guys are kind of rumbling at that answer

R: How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Meg: 14

J: (loudly) OMG

R: (thoughtfully) interesting

J: do you know how old you were when that first record came out?

R: zero (starts laughing)

J: no, she was probably a yr and half old. You were a yr and half old when that record came out maybe 2 yrs old

R: that's interesting

J: what do think of that Meghan?

R: very cool, very cool

J: so what's it like to talk to old men on the radio?

Meg: weird

R and J: both start saying weird (in strange voices and cracking up)

J: on icky

R: weird, weird.....so do you have an interesting question?

J: yeah, what's the question?

Meg: if you could back in time and start over, the whole fame thing what would you do differently?

R: we've answered this question 20,000 times (J is saying yeah in the background) now this is completely unsolicited between the two of us Because

J: yeah, we talk about this all the time

R: we haven't talked about this just now but we would definitely take about 10 or 15 minutes and uh....

J: and ummm...

R: try to come up with a new name

J: yeah,come up with a new name

Mx: no you would not

R: yeah, I think we would

J: I swear to God we would

R: I mean if we could go back 15 yrs

Mx: yeah

R: I think we would do that

J: yeah well 14 yrs

Mx: you're not happy with the name?

J: we've been a band since 1986 do you know that?

Mx: yeah..but ,but, but...what

R: what..does he know that?....you're asking max if he knows of course Max knows that?

J: well started the band when we were 10 (r is cracking up)

Mx: you would change the name?

R: yeah

J: yeah, but it probably would have been some ridiculous thing

R: you don't how many yrs....

J: everything bizarre happens for a reason

R: especially before we had any success. People would go like what's your band's name? I can't tell you how many times I've said the name (they both start imitating mumbling the band name) ya know now it's not so bad

J: we make our mgr say it like if I'm hanging out the D'Hayes (sp?) who's sitting out there in the hallway

R: what's your band called?

J: what's the name of your band?( in a little scared voice) you tell'em

R: you tell'em ( r is giggling)

J: it's, it's been an old thing

Mx: so you could do something now you could do a Chris Gaines thing you could change the whole...you could come up with a completely new persona

R: yeah,

J: yeah

R: sure...what would the name be John?

J: oh.....Dick Rambone ( this cracks them up) I don't know, I don't know

Mx: while we ponder that

They play Black Balloon....they could back talking about DUTG

Mx: we're going to work every single song from this record

R: that's fine

J: you think? I don't know man

Mx: well you have say over that

J: no . we...well...ya know, ya know what's really cool our record company. Warner bros had never really interfered with what we've wanted to do. Which is, which is interesting and I think it's and I think it's...umm

Mx: they've been helpful

R: and odd, and odd in this day and age

J: they've been really great

Mx: yeah, but they're known as an artist driven company( the guys are agreeing) they're known as an artist development company

J: they had a few problems a few years back but, all the, all the

Mx: you mean with those Batman movies

J: (in a low voice) I don't wanna talk about the Batman movies. Why ya' gotta bring that up? Why ya' gotta bring that up? Yeah the last Batman movie was called Batman Sucks ( laughs) that's were Steve Guttenburg played Batman (they are all belly laughing) you couldn't get anyone else mx: that's too funny...alright Rebecca from Dallas

R: (still talking about Batman) one of the Corey's (this starts them all cracking up again)

J: Corey Aim ....(they are laughing hysterically) Corey Feldman as Batman...oooohhhh, yeah, God.....I kill me

Mx: Rebecca? Next album?

Rebecca: I wanted to add my own genre

R: that's good

Reb: ever since I saw Jay Leno I think they should do the Supremes

J: OH!!! Did you see that?

Reb: yes I did (R is belly laughing again)

J: Man, How did I look in a dress? Was I.....

Reb: you looked better than I do (she starts cracking up too which mx and r going even harder)

J: How HOT was I? Look if I'd have shaved my legs might have actually been able to pull it off

R: or at least you could have made $80 or $100 bucks

J: Listen...I looked..... there is this drag bar in LA

R: that's what I mean...top dollar

J: in Studio City, in Studio City called The Queen Mary and they have, they have live female impersonators every night and we went there a couple of times and I gotta tell you, man, I look way more like Diana Ross

R: than Diana Ross

J: than Diana Ross over at The Queen Mary did. Yeah....that was, that was beckoning back to the days of Uncle Miltie style comedy

R: I hope she's not listening (talking about Diana)

Mx: not afraid to dress up like a woman

J: No, you dress up like a woman ya know it's like, it's like it's hilarious

Mx: it's a right of passage

J: it is ya know Monty Python even Shakespeare

Mx: absolutely

J: lots and lots of men dress like women in the Shakespeare

Mx: alright, so Rebecca votes for the cover album

J: what's your question?

Reb: I wanted to know where you got your inspiration to write your music?

J: wow, that's a, that's a good question

R: what ...you mean the last batch of music?

J: yeah.....I think most of it comes from real life. you kind of sit down and, and just like you write in your journal or a...or a whatever I mean you're, you're expressions of what you do is kind of a reflection of where you're at in your head. Which is kind of caused some trouble with people who listen to us cause they expect things from you their like...well, your this..

Mx: yeah there is a certain expectation

J: right and it's like no I'm me and whatever I happened to be I'm going to do. Elvis Costello had a really great quote about that "you know if I feel like making a Country and Western record, next record I'm gonna" and then he did. "Almost Blue" right? Wasn't it?

Mx:I don't know was it?

J: I don't remember but Elvis Costello was a great Country and Western songwriter, ya know, I think so but I mean you just gotta stay true to your heart and as cliché and tacky as that is sounds

Mx: you're a man of great depth, we learn more about Johnny every day

R: I'd ....umm....ya know

Mx: huge depth...I'm not kidding

J: Noooo....I'm not I'm a mook but, but .....but if you stay honest and true to yourself then you know what it's like it doesn't matter how many records you end up selling cause you created something you're proud of and happy about ya know, ya know it's really because we've had a little bit of success ummm ...it's really easy for me to make statements like that cause I'm not worried about paying the rent ( r starts cracking up and then everyone else)...ya know so I can have high ideals cause I got some money in the bank They say good byes to Rebecca and play January Friend

Mx: we're back with R and J of the GGDs are here for the entire show it's been a lot of fun as usual it's always good to have you guys

J: yeah, it's always good to see you, man, it's always good to see you

R: we thought for sure the last time we were here would be our last time

Mx: why

J: where's the last time I saw you? We were doing a gig? We were doing a gig, you remember?

Mx: no I thought it was at the party commemorating the 1 millionth spin

J: yes, that..... but before that at gig, I think we were in FL remember that?

Mx: yeah(he says this like he wishes J didn't remember)

J: (laughs)Dickie Barrett was with you, ( everyone is making sounds of remembering) Dickie Barrett was with you.

R: you remember that right?

Mx: Do YOU remember that?

R: vaguely

J: uuhhhhh.....well I'm telling you about it ain't I?

Mx: I remember things about it that you probably don't want want to remember

R: shhhhh

Mx: anyway....

J: I'm sorry I have a couple of cocktails and my pants end up around my ankles.

Mx: speaking of W.Palm Beach....Jerry from WPB

Terry: it's Terry but yeah

J: how ironic is that? It's not ironic it's just weird

R: it's like ...it's just the way it is They ask him about the genre

T: I'm going to come up with a new category

R: good

J: what's it gonna be "not sucking" how about you guys just don't suck

T: I'd have to go with the Jackson 5

R: write in, God Bless ya'

T: in all honesty you guys just keep going and playing your music from your heart cause this is some good stuff...I've got a couple of the records and it's some good stuff

R: wow

J: wow, cool

Mx: so that's really a vote for stay the course

J: what's the question,dude?

T: If you could be anybody who would it be and why?

J: (laughing really devilishly) oooohhhhh

R: I would be Puff Daddy and I don't think I have to explain why( they are cracking up )

Mx: yeah it's that fascination with firearms

J: yeeaah!.....YES

R: that was a good question

Mx: that was a great answer

J: that WAS a great answer....right off the top of his head

Mx: thank Terri

J: that's like the time we were watching the Dating Game, Robby and I were watching the Dating Game and one of the....

R: I don't think you can say this

J: I'm going to say it...no.no, no....I can say it I'll make it

Mx: don't worry the network censors will take care of whatever they don't want us to say

J: ok, so we're watching the Dating Game one day and we're laughing our behinds off about the DG and then the girl asks (he imitates a girls voice) Bachelor #2 "If you were a vehicle what would you be?" and Robby pipes up (J and R are cracking up and J has to stop before answering) I'd be one of those trucks that comes around and cleans out the septic tank cause I suck and I'm full of crap!

They play Iris ...then take a break and then the show is over.