More Goo Stuff

Bob (introduced as "a boy named Bob"): What a bunch of goo that is.

*John & Robby groan*

Bob: Here we go, off and running. You know, so much has happened since the Goo Goo Dolls were last on Rockline. They've sold six bazillion more CDs -

John: Thank God.

Bob: They've made their 2000th appearance on the Tonight Show, they've appeared on Sesame Street, they almost died in a plane crash, but they kept coming back to what they know is their second home and that is Rockline.

John: That's right.

Bob: So lets welcome John Rzeznik and Robby Takac. How are you guys doing tonight?

John: Hello, how are you?

Bob: I'm doing great. Good to talk to you guys again, man. So I want to know, have you taken possession of Jay Leno's dressing room yet?

Robby: No, but John borrowed a pair of red pumps from him actually.

John: They weren't pumps, they were stilettos.

Robby: They were very nice.

John: Size 12 men's.

Bob: Size 12 men's?

Robby: Yeah, we were wondering what Jay had those hanging around his dressing room for, ya know?

Bob: Yeah, you gotta kinda wonder.

Robby: Yeah, we did this little thing. He was auditioning Supremes actually and we did a little performance as, uh –

John: And being the egomaniac that I am I said that I didn't want to be Diana Ross' back-up singer, I want to be Diana Ross.

Robby: You're a diva, Rzeznik.

John: So then I was quickly transported to the make-up room.

Robby: Where they put on, uh…

John: I don't know, you know?

Robby: Some stuff.

John: So I was transformed into Diana Ross.

Bob: Now I'm coming through Malibu Canyon yesterday and I see this really old care, this giant old car – looked like a Bentley from the 20s. It was huge! It looked like a railroad car. It looked like an engine or something and I look and its Jay Leno behind the wheel. He's got this big grin on his face, bugs on his teeth, the whole nine yards.

Robby: (Leno impersonation) I'm going out for a ride. I gotta go out for a ride.

Bob: Jay and one of his 300 cars that he owns, you know?

Robby: Its unbelievable man.

John: He's really cool. He's actually really cool.

Bob: He's a great guy.

Robby: We've been on the show – I think we've been on like seven times or something, right?

Bob: I know, it's unbelievable.

John: Seven times, yeah.

Robby: And I've never seen the same car out front. It's just crazy.

Bob: Yeah, he's got really cool stuff. I've been there several times. He's got great cars. Now you guys got other TV stuff going on. You've got "Charmed" coming up and that's pretty soon, right?

John: I don't know.

Robby: Yeah, we're not sure when it's on.

Bob: Its April 27th, that's the date I have.

Robby: Oh. Thanks.

John: Thanks for letting us know.

Bob: Just thought I'd clue you in on when you're gonna be on and all that, the busy schedule that you guys keep. And Robby you've got an appearance on The List in May?

Robby: Yeah, yeah. John actually hosted a week of The List.

Bob: I was gonna say.

Robby: About two months ago.

John: Yeah, I did. That's a good gig, man. I wouldn't mind doing that all the time.

Robby: Being a talk show host?

John: Well, you know, for a little while.

Robby: Got any tips, Bob?

Bob: Yeah. Defer to your guest when they're on a roll and when they're not, fill in the gaps.

Robby: That's it, baby.

John: Oh wow. That's good advice.

Bob: That's the key to the whole thing, believe me.

John: "All right, let's go to our next caller."

Bob: That's right. Yeah, "Thanks so much for being on." And I'm doing the "kill" sign on the radio here. Cutting my throat, "kill, kill."

John: I gotta know something Bob. Have you ever had someone – and I know you're not gonna tell me who – but have you ever had somebody on the radio that was so wasted that they were just making a complete mess of everything and you had to like pre-empt them?

Bob: Yeah, we had a band on one time and we bailed out seven minutes early on the show because all three of them were wasted and I can't say the name of the band –

Robby: Can we guess?

Bob: but I can say Izzy Duff and Slash.

Robby: Oh! I gotcha.

John: Oh! Wow.

Bob: We've had a couple of nights with Vince Neil where Vince had some moments.

John: Oh man.

Robby: Those were the days man.

Bob: I'd rather work with those kind of guys – and of course Diamond Dave when he was with Van Halen in the early days and everything. I'd rather work with those guys though than the guys who don't have anything to say because those are the ones that are really a problem.

John: Yeah that's always a problem. But it's a cool job you have. How long have you been doing this?

Bob: I've been doing this –

John: 29 years?

Bob: Since 1903. Yeah, since 1903. And actually, Marconi taught me how to make the vacuum tube.

Robby: "I've got this great idea."

John: The McKinley administration was winding down.

Bob: That's right. I charged up the hill with Teddy Roosevelt and was struck with this idea, you know?

John: Excellent.

Robby: And it's been going ever since!

John: We were just discussing Marconi and the invention of radio. Do you know about the history of radio?

Bob: Oh I know a little bit about it, yeah.

John: Like when Howard Armstrong, that guy, he invented FM?

Bob: Yeah, Howard Armstrong, yeah.

John: And David Sarnoff was the guy that started RCA.

Bob: That's right. And FM is located between channels 3 and 4 on your television so it's a little narrow band that's there. It stands for frequency modulation and amplitude modulation for AM so there you go.

John: That's right.

Bob: That's our lesson.

John: Now that we've bored America with the history of radio

Bob: Let's listen to "Broadway" by the Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline on Am and FM all over the nation

**"Broadway" plays**

Bob: "Broadway", the latest single by the Goo Goo Dolls. We got John and Robby from the band with us tonight. If you'd like to talk with the guys just call the toll-free Rockline.

**commercials**

Bob: Welcome back to Rockline. I'm Bob Coburn with Johnny and Robby from the Goo Goo Dolls and we're gonna take a call from Erica in the Philadelphia area. Hi Erica.

Caller1: Hi guys.

John: How are you doing, Erica? What's up?

Caller1: I wanted to know what your favorite banner is that your fans have made for you during your shows.

John: Favorite banner?

Robby: Hmm…

John: Uh, there were some funny ones, that's for sure. Like "I'd like to…blank you". You know, it's just funny. People are funny like that. I love when people show up with that kind of stuff because it's – it always makes me laugh. There's tons of them. But, do you remember any in particular?

Robby: I can't think of any in particular really. I know there's a lot of people claiming to be May.

John: Yes this world is full of psychotic women. And men.

Bob: I was gonna say, don't count us out.

John: I had some trouble with a girl who thought she was the name of a girl that I was singing in my song and she followed me from one end of the country to the other.

Robby: Yeah.

John: It was very scary.

Bob: Yeah, that's no fun at all. I've been through that my own self and that is no fun at all. Now Johnny, did you take anybody up on the boinking offer?

John: No!

Bob: You knew I had to ask that.

John: Of course, this is Rockline!

Bob: Absolutely. Lets get the rock back in line. Thank you Erica for being on.

Robby: I mean, its just because your up on stage you know. Would you sleep with someone who was walking down like Main Street with a big sign like "I want to boink you"?

Bob: Oh absolutely.

John: That whole thing is a little strange. Its flattering at first but then, you know, when they show up on your door every single day looking for you, it's a little scary.

Robby: (weird voice) Stalking can be fun!

Bob: We'll swap stalker stories off the air.

John: Yeah, we'll swap stalker stories.

Bob: Let's talk to Ruth. She's in the Dayton, Ohio area. Hi Ruth.

Caller2: How you guys doing?

John: Hey, what's up?

Caller2: Quick question – of course, that's why I called. When you write a song about somebody, do you tell them that it's about them or do you let them figure it out on their own?

John: Wow…uh…I don't know if I write songs directly about anybody in particular. I mean, there might be one thing that I want to say to somebody and then I'll just put all kinds of stuff around it. As long as I get to tell them what I'm thinking about.

Robby: Sometimes I think you gotta, or at least try sometimes, to disguise things a bit. So it's not so obvious.

John: Yeah, try to be a bit more vague. But they always wind up knowing what it's about.

Bob: I was gonna say. And on occasion they mistake thinking it's about them and they follow you all over the country.

Robby: Exactly!

John: All over the country and scare the pants off you. It's absurd.

Bob: That's right. Ruth, thanks for being on the air. Miami here we come. Erica, you're on Rockline with the Goo Goo Dolls

Caller3: Hi Johnny. Hi Robby.

John: That's the second Erica of the night. Hi.

Robby: Hi.

Caller3: When you guys write a song, do you go to a specific place in your house to get inspired and write your song?

John: Well, I know you're not going to believe me but its absolutely true that I used to keep a guitar in my bathroom and I would sit in there and play a lot and it worked!

Robby: It sounds good in there.

Bob: I've heard that from a lot of people and that's exactly it – it sounds good in there.

Robby: Absolutely.

John: And plus you can relax.

Bob: And that's how Robert Plant wrote the song "Big Log" too so –

John & Robby: Ooooooohhhhhh!

Bob: Let's go back to Erica on a different subject here. Elian Gonzalas. Did they do the right thing, did they do the wrong thing, are you sick of hearing about it?

Caller3: I'm really sick of hearing about it. There's riots in the streets. You can't get out of your house.

John: Where?

Caller3: Here in Miami right now.

Bob: She's calling from Miami.

John: Oh, oh. You're from Miami, yeah.

Caller3: I'm actually from Brazil.

John: Really? Wow.

Caller3: There's a long story but I came to the US because of you guys and I wanted to let you know that. I heard you guys when I was 14 years old and your music completely made me who I am today.

Robby: Oh wow.

Caller3: And I just wanted to let you know that.

John: Thanks.

Robby: Do you like it here?

Caller3: I love it here, I love it.

Robby: Well that's good then.

John: What do you do in Miami now?

Caller3: I'm actually a music reporter.

John: Really?

And I'm writing concert reviews. I actually saw you guys in Houston and I'm going to Wango Tango in two weeks for my birthday.

Robby: Oh cool.

John: Wow, so are you going on assignment?

Caller3: No I'm just going because I'm a Goo Goo Dolls fan. I'm gonna go support you guys.

Robby: Oh that's so cool.

John: Thanks. Will you protect me from the Backstreet Boys?

Caller3: Its actually N'Sync.

Robby: We get a little nervous around large groups of men like N'Sync.

John: Large groups of men in matching outfits. Except police. Well no, especially police.

Robby: From what I understand, they're pretty good at synchronized ass-whipping.

John: Actually the guys in N'Sync are really nice.

Robby: It's so weird. Like everybody, you know, musically that you kind of want to hate, you know you meet them and they're generally pretty cool most of the time.

John: And then everybody you want to like is a jerk.

Robby: Yeah. It's very weird.

Bob: Funny how that works. Well Erica we're glad you're here and making a contribution too, which is very cool. All the way from Brazil, man. One thought comes to mind – Brazilian women are about the best-looking women in the world.

John: I was just thinking that.

Bob: It's true.

John: They're beautiful.

Robby: They grow a hell of a nut too.

Bob: That's right, a real big one! Alright, lets go to "A Boy Named Goo" for "Long Way Down". It certainly is. An evening with the Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline.

**Long Way Down plays**

Bob: "Long Way Down", the Goo Goo Dolls for you on Rockline. Robby and Johnny joining us tonight to take your calls and we have up next April. She's an internet caller. Where are you located ands who are you listening to?

Caller4: I'm listening to 94.9 in Miami on the web and I'm in Tallahassee, Florida.

Bob: Welcome to the show.

Robby: How are you tonight?

John: What's up?

Caller4: I'm fine, and how are you guys?

John: Doin' all right.

Caller4: I just wanted to know if you had a chance to collaborate with anybody in the studio or on the stage, who would you pick to work with?

John: Uh, there's a lot of guys. I would like to work with Paul Westerburg again, I would like to work with John Mellencamp and Tom Petty and Tommy Keene, a great guitar player.

Robby: He actually played guitar on Broadway

John: Yeah, we have to say thank you to Tommy Keene who has a lot of records out and you should all go and buy them because they're very good. I'm sure you can find them on the web somewhere.

Bob: And Robby, quickly, who would you add to that list?

Robby: Uh, I'd really like to work with, you know, Tom Petty. We actually got to work with Ben Montenge from the Heartbreakers on the last record which was pretty great, you know, and the vibe seems pretty cool with those guys so I think that would be a lot of fun.

Bob: Great keyboard player, Ben Montenge. We'll return with the Goo Goo Dolls in just a moment.

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Bob: I knew you'd come back. Welcome back to Rockline. I'm Bob Coburn with Johnny and Robby from the Goo Goo Dolls and this weeks encore question. Last week Full Devil Jacket joined us in the Rockline studio and left a question for the Goo Goo Dolls.

FDJ: This is Michael Reese from Full Devil jacket and I'd like to ask Johnny – I hear that he's a really great guitarist and I admire what they're doing and how does he find the balance between writing good songs and melody and the inclination to maybe show a little more of his guitar work.

John: Wow. That's an easy one to answer. I'm a really lousy guitar player!

Robby: So I guess it's about the songs, isn't it?

John: I have no choice! I gotta write songs 'cause I can't play! No, I can play. I just, you know, that was never my thing. I never took any lessons or anything and I talked to a couple people about the stuff I do and they tell me what I'm doing and I'm like "Wow, cool. I didn't know that."

Bob: But you're doing it anyway.

John: Good question.

Bob: Isn't that a good question? From some really nice guys. I enjoyed hanging with them last week. So then we can infer that Nathan December is a pretty good guitar player?

John: He's alright. You know, he holds down the foundation.

Robby: Nathan makes big rock.

Bob: There you go. And Johnny, open up that guitar work a little more. We're gonna check out "Black Balloon". It's the Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline.

**Black Balloon plays**

Bob: It's the Goo Goo Dolls, "Black Balloon" from "Dizzy Up The Girl". Have you guys heard that song before?

Robby: Uh…yeah!

John: Never heard it before, although I hate the way that guy sings and he sucks on the guitar.

Bob: We've got Jared in Amarillo, Texas. Join the party Jared.

Caller5: Hey.

Robby: How ya doing?

Caller5: Alright.

Robby: Alright.

Caller5: What was it like working with Bobcat Goldthwait on the Broadway video and also what was it like performing in South Africa?

Robby: Two very nice questions.

John: Two good questions.

Robby: Thank you.

John: You know what? We hooked up with Bobcat Goldthwait, who you might remember directed "Shakes The Clown" – a great funny movie – and we did a cover of a Rolling Stones song for a record that came out a few years ago called "No Alternative" which was the "Red Hot and Blue" thing and we wanted him to direct the video but the people at Arista said no.

Robby: (strange voice) "That man is a loose cannon. No no no."

John: So we didn't get the video for that but we always wanted to work with him 'cause he's hysterical. He's really a brilliant funny person and he didn't wind up directing the video – Nancy Bardiwell did.

Robby: She's done all the videos from this record.

John: Yeah, she's done 5 of our videos so we're really comfortable with her. But he actually wrote the concept for the video called "The Pop-Star Factory" which was just a little tongue-in-cheek jab at the record industry, you know? And we took it out of ourselves worse than anybody else in the video so if anybody gets mad at me for it, too bad!

Bob: And the other part was South Africa.

Robby: South Africa, yeah. That was really – well, let me start by saying this: Oh my God that's a long plane flight man!

John: It's unbelievable.

Robby: It's unbelievable! You know we have been all over the place and I have never had a physical reaction to traveling like I did there, it was unbelievable. But, yeah, we did shows with Lenny Kravitz and The Cult and a few local South African bands and it was great. Big rock everywhere.

John: Yeah, it was pretty amazing because these concerts were massive events there and it was really exciting to actually go there and see what was going on.

Bob: It's just a long-ass way to get there.

John: Yeah, I'm in no hurry to get back. I think we're gonna make a lot of stops on the way there. But, you know, its cool. Find a McDonalds and you don't have to eat anything strange. I ate very little yak while I was there, no wildebeest.

Robby: We refer to McDonalds as the American Embassy.

John: Whenever you're out of the country and you can't find something good to eat.

Robby: What would Taco Bell be? The Mexican Embassy maybe?

Bob: Or the Mexican-American Embassy, yeah.

John: But, you know, we just tell everybody "I'll be dining at the American Embassy".

Bob: About a month ago we had Henry Rollins on Rockline and he went to India and from New York it took him 33 1/2 hours to get there by plane. He said he had already changed skin and hair color by the time he got there.

John: Yeah, and put a new record out.

Bob: That's right. To Richmond, VA we go. Kim, welcome to Rockline.

Caller6: Good morning you guys.

Robby: Hey.

John: Hi. What do you mean "good morning"?

Bob: She's in Richmond so it would be 12:07 there.

John: Oh. Well good morning to you.

Robby: Richmond, VA. That's like the only smoker-friendly city in the world it seems.

Caller6: It's the only city that you do not come to. You have not been here.

Robby: To Richmond? Sure we have.

John: Yeah, you were out of town.

Caller6: Oh no I wasn't. I work for a company that has been trying to get you here forever and –

Robby: I know we've played Richmond.

John: Have we? I don't remember.

Robby: At some point. Very early on we did.

John: We used to play there but for some reason we haven't gotten a lot of shows there.

Robby: In 1986 we opened for a band called Gangrene there years and years and years ago.

Bob: But surely that's not why you called.

Caller6: I'll be attending my first Goo show next month in DC at the Chili Cook-Off. We actually have a mutual friend so she's bringing me backstage to meet you guys so I'm looking forward to that.

John: Who is this mutual friend?

Caller6: I don't know if I should say on the air but she was a DJ in Washington –

Bob: Let's not go there. What's your question for the guys tonight?

Robby: Do you like chili? I love chili!

Caller6: I'm going for the beer.

John: Well if you're gonna drink beer you have to eat chili.

Robby: Actually you might want to lay off the chili if you're gonna be drinking some beer.

Caller6: God forbid, if your careers were to end tomorrow what would you guys do?

Robby: Weep.

John: Whine and cry for a couple weeks and then get a job.

Robby: That's a weird thing to think about really.

John: What would you do Bob if it all ended tomorrow?

Bob: Probably go with your answer.

Robby: Weep!

Bob: Whine and cry a couple weeks and then get a real job.

Robby: Gotta make the simoleons man.

Bob: Thank you very much. We're gonna head to Washington, DC right now to talk to Megan. Hi Megan?

Caller7: Hi.

John: Hi Megan. What's up?

Bob: Do you like chili Megan?

Caller7: I'm going to that actually.

John: Me too!

Bob: What's your question for the guys?

Caller7: I'm a really huge fan and I've done so much research on you guys and I know that you guys have been through so much just trying to make it and I just wanted to know what gave you the strength to go on, 'cause you guys give me the strength to go on.

John: Well, you know, Robby and I have always had each other to lean on and bitch to and all that and I think if you've got a solid partner it helps.

Robby: And Wheaties.

John: W had a really big party yesterday for Easter and we were discussing the meaning of life and all that kind of stuff, metaphysics and all that crap, and we came down to there's a few basic rules and if you live by them life will be good.

Robby: That's it. Be nice.

John: Don't be a jerk to your friends.

Robby: That's one.

John: Don't lie, cheat or steal.

Robby: Two.

John: Get enough sleep, don't drink too much.

Robby: And eat Wheaties.

John: And eat your Wheaties.

Bob: And wear sensible shoes.

John: And wear glasses if you need them.

Robby: And no straw hats in the winter. That's just tacky.

John: Yeah, no straw after Labor Day.

Bob: Time to "Slide" with the Goo Goo Dolls here on Rockline.

Robby: (excited) Oh yeah.

**Slide plays**

Bob: Back again with the Goo Goo Dolls doing a little "Slide" there from "Dizzy Up The Girl" and we've got Debbie from Austin, Texas, waiting her turn. Debbie, you're up.

Caller8: Hey guys.

Robby: Hey.

John: Hey Debbie, what's up?

Caller8: I love y'all.

John: Thank you. We love you too.

Caller8: I was wondering if you guys were happy about the "VH1 Behind the Music" episode that was done on y'all.

John: Do you think we shouldn't be? I only saw it once.

Caller8: Well I love it.

John: It was cool.

Caller8: And I was wondering if you had another favorite episode besides your own.

John: I like the Ted Nugent one. I love that one.

Robby: You always get great Ted Nugent stories from people who travel around the country.

John: It's fantastic.

Robby: I think is mother has a show too. "Ask Ma Nug" or something like that.

John: And what's the other question?

Bob: Did you have another question Debbie?

Caller8: I was wondering if you were happy with your episode.

John: It was cool. It's a little strange watching your life neatly edited into a 1 hour docu-drama, you know?

Robby: I think they were pretty nice to us.

John: The guy, Jamie, who built that whole thing, was really really cool to us. We said "Don't' make us look bad" and he was ok with that.

Bob: It's gotta be tough to sit and watch your life summarized in 60 minutes, you know?

Robby: We just wanted to figure out who to apologize to when it was all over, you know. But it all seemed to be all right.

John: It's funny. They should put together a whole greatest hits of the "Behind the Music" of everybody saying "We got screwed".

Robby: "We got screwed!"

Bob: That's right. "We lost the money that we were due and our manager screwed us over".

John: Let that be a lesson to you kids. If you want to be a rock star, you're gonna get screwed.

Bob: There you go, that's it. The truth revealed. Thanks Debbie. Next week STP are gonna join us.

John: Last of the great rock bands.

Bob: I love these guys man. What a treat. Good friends of the show and we can't wait to have them back in. We'll be back with you guys, also great friends of the show. More Goo Goo Dolls in a moment.

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Bob: It's Rockline. I'm Bob Coburn here with Johnny and Robby from the Goo Goo Dolls and its time to go back to "A Boy Named Goo" for the song called "Naked".

**Naked plays**

Bob: It's the Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline. "Naked" is the name of that. I'm Bob Coburn. We got Robby, we got Johnny, and we got a call from Daphne in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Caller9: Hi you guys.

John: Hiya Daphne. You have a cool name.

Caller9: I just wanted to say that you guys are awesome and I can't wait for you guys to come back to DC.

John: Yeah we're coming back for the chili cook-off or something.

Bob: Beer drinking contest!

John: Who's got the best chili there in Washington?

Caller9: I really can't say. I wanted to ask you, if anybody made a movie about you guys what actors would you pick to play your character and –

John: Well, lets see. I think Charlie Callas is dead.

Robby: Charlie Callas?!

John: No one remembers Charlie Callas. Larry Storch is dead. I don't know. I have no idea who would play me. Who should play me?

Caller9: I don't know.

John: Then why are you asking?

Bob: Because maybe she thought YOU might know.

John: Yeah, I sit around all day thinking about who should play me.

Robby: "I can't wait until they make a movie about us".

John: Jennifer Aniston is gonna play me.

Bob: There you go.

John: She'll also play my love interest.

Bob: Daphne did you have another question?

Caller9: Are any of you guys interested in acting at all?

John: Maybe I'll play myself in my life story.

Bob: There you go. Who could do it better?

John: I don't know. Well, probably some actor.

Robby: I think the last thing the world needs right now is another rock star turned actor.

John: Yeah. I got asked to do a couple things. I haven't done anything yet. I don't know if I'm really into that.

Bob: Would you consider it?

John: Yeah, if it was cool. If I could play somebody cool. I wouldn't want to play something stupid. I got asked to do an episode of "Sex In The City" but I couldn't do it because we went away to Africa and I was supposed to play Sarah Jessica Parker's boyfriend in this episode –

Bob: Oh man!

John: who turns out to be bi-sexual.

Robby: Oh that's nice.

John: It was really funny and I wanted to do it but we couldn't do it 'cause I was busy.

Bob: That wouldn't have slowed me down, I guarantee that. The bi-sexual part wouldn't slow me down if I got to play Sarah Jessica Parker's boyfriend.

John: She's got the best nose. I love her nose. She's so sexy.

Bob: I haven't gotten that far yet.

John: Thanks Daphne for your call.

Bob: Yeah thanks. I saw a rock star in a movie this past weekend.

John: Jon Bon Jovi in that U-movie?

Bob: Yeah, "U-571".

John: The morning-after pill.

Bob: That's what it sounds like, doesn't it?

Robby: It's huge! Can you imagine swallowing that thing?

Bob: It's a big-ass submarine. It's unbelievable.

Robby: Yeah, almost.

John: How as that movie? Can he act? I heard he can act.

Bob: I forgot it was him after a while but what I couldn't get was Matthew McConehey directing a submarine. I couldn't get past that.

John: He directed the movie?

Bob: No, he was the captain of the submarine.

John: Oh.

Bob: It was ok.

John: I wouldn't let him captain a softball team.

Bob: That would be the team playing without pants. Let's hit the phones again. Medford, Oregon. Robin, you're on Rockline with the Goo Goo Dolls.

Caller10: Good evening gentlemen.

Robby: Gentlemen?

John: Where?

Caller10: I heard earlier John where you had said some dumb girl had scared the pants off of you. I don't think you scare that easy. My question is what in the hell does it take to scare the pants off you.

John: Uh, I don't know. Gosh, I don't know. There's a lot of scary people. That girl scared me really bad 'cause I thought she was gonna shoot me or something.

Bob: What girl are we talking about here?

John: Uh…Gigi or whatever her name was. The girl at the Bel Age hotel who pulled an empty wine bottle on me. And being the brave man that I am, I jumped over the front desk! She scared the hell out of me! What does it take? I don't know. You could come up behind me and pop a paper bag. That would scare me pretty good.

Robby: Do you think it would be easier to scare or charm the pants off of you?

John: Much easier to charm the pants off of me. My pants are easily charmed off but rarely scared off.

Bob: Some woman I don't know wielding an empty wine bottle would do the trick I would think.

John: See, I tried to run the riff with her where I was like "Ok, everything's cool. Everything's cool." And I have four older sisters who I did a lot of fighting with when I was growing up, you know? So then I decided I'm going to take the aggressive approach and I started yelling right back at her. She's yelling at me and I'm going *nonsense words* and she just kept getting louder and louder and I couldn't get any louder and I was just like "Note to self – do not try to out-psycho a psycho." It didn't work. It just made her more angry. Boy she went off on me! I'm like "You're not even my girlfriend! How can you yell at me like this?!"

Bob: There's that old line, "You can't argue with a sick mind" and boy is it true. "You're not even my girlfriend." Let's go to Detroit. Hi Karen.

Caller11: Hi, how ya doing?

Robby: Good.

Caller11: First of all I would like to tell both of you John and Robby that you are both very beautiful people. I had met you guys in Ypsilanti last October and you didn't have that "I'm a rock star, kiss my feet" attitude. You're really down to Earth people.

Robby: That attitude won't get you very far.

John: We didn't play in Ypsilanti, we went out there. Did we play there?

Robby: I think so.

Caller11: Yeah, you did. The Convocation Center in October.

John: Oh yeah. But we did go out there the night before 'cause someone I was with picked up about a half a dozen strippers and hauled them all over Ypsilanti.

Robby: That's nice.

John: I was like, "Great. See ya later! I'm going home."

Bob: Life on the road. Did Karen ask her question?

Caller11: No I didn't.

John: I rudely interrupted her.

Caller11: I wanted to know how you guys felt about playing small venues like that vs. the big ones and Johnny I want to know when your birthday is.

Robby: I'll tell you when John's birthday is.

John: Don't tell her when my birthday is.

Robby: I know.

John: No, 'cause you're gonna get it wrong and I'm gonna feel like crap for the next three weeks.

Robby: I'll get it wrong? Come on man, you've been guilt-tripping me for forgetting it for 15 years man. Of course I know when it is. December 5 is John's birthday.

John: Same birthday as Little Richard, Bob uh – no, not Bob Hope. What am I saying? Little Richard, Walt Disney and Dick van Dike.

Robby: And our friend Merle who works down at the Wilson Farms down by my house.

John: Is that Tooth? Remember Tooth? There was this guy who worked in the convenience store around the corner from our house. We used to go in there and buy beer and stuff, and he had one big tooth. We called him Tooth.

Bob: How appropriate.

Robby: Nice guy.

John: What's up Tooth?

Bob: The other was about the venues.

Robby: Playing small venues is really cool, you know?

John: It's more intimate.

Robby: We did a tour this summer with Sugar Ray and Fastball and it was very big and – you know, 10 to 20 thousand seats most of the time –

John: Which is a different thing. I like doing that too because how often are you gonna get to do that in your career? You might as well enjoy playing big rooms because you may not do it on your next tour. You may not be as popular as you were on this record.

Robby: When we finished that tour we went out and did kind of a smaller one with Tonic and the vibe is like a lot different but its still cool either way.

John: Yeah, its fun.

Bob: In this business, when the work is there, take it.

John: You know, in the words of Irv Weinstein, the most famous reporter –

Robby: In all of Buffalo. Ever.

John: "You gotta make hay when the sun is shining". Let me tell you a story about Diana Ross and Irv Weinstein.

Bob: Ok.

Robby: This is great. This is one of my favorites.

John: Diana Ross came to town to do a concert and the news crew showed up at the airport to interview her.

Robby: It was a big deal!

John: When Diana Ross comes to Buffalo it's a big deal. The news was out in force. She started screaming at the camera and – they aired the whole thing – she started screaming at the camera and she wasn't very nice and then they cut back from the film footage to Irv Weinstein and he was shuffling his papers and his comment was *impersonation* "Well, its nice to be important. But it's more important to be nice."

Robby: There you go.

Bob: Yeah! Round of applause for that one.

John: Thank you. Thank you Irv! We love you Irv!

Robby: As you can see it's affected her career horribly. She doesn't have much success 'cause of that attitude.

John: You don't mess with Irv Weinstein.

Bob: Alright, rock and roll time with the Goo Goo Dolls. It's "Dizzy" on Rockline.

**Dizzy plays**

Bob: "Dizzy" by the Goo Goo Dolls. A reminder – everyone who gets on the air tonight gets a copy of "Dizzy Up The Girl" courtesy of Warner Brothers Records. Back with your calls and more of Johnny and Robby in just a moment on Rockline.

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Bob: And welcome back. It's a party! It's Rockline. It's the Goo Goo Dolls. I'm Bob Coburn with Johnny and Robby and we have a call from Patty. She's in Iowa City listening on the internet I believe.

Caller12: Hi guys.

Robby: Hey, how are ya?

Caller12: Pretty good. I've been a fan for years and I love all your stuff but Superstar Car Wash is very special to me and I have a question about "Cuz You're Gone". During the live version you do the Thousand Words interlude and I'm wondering why you added that and why it's not on a CD yet.

Robby: Well, that's interesting. Actually John's outside getting cancer at the moment but I will try to answer that myself. That's just something that kind of happened during the live shows and sort of just gave us a chance to bring the show down a little. I think we try to balance things out a little bit so it's not all whack-whack-whack all night. It's just kind of a time to come down. We never really talked about putting it on an album.

Bob: Now let me just ask you since John's not here to defend himself –

Robby: Actually he just turned the corner.

John: Sorry.

Bob: Well never mind then. Never mind.

John: What? Stop talking about me! That's not nice man!

Bob: I was just gonna ask a question with you not there.

Robby: It beats dead air.

Bob: Believe me, anything beats dead air you guys.

John: Let me ask you something Bob. You've been in the radio business for quite a while here. Where do they dig up the zombies that they put on classical radio stations and NPR? The song will end and this really timid voice comes in (really slow and quiet) That was Bartoch from the 4th concerto" or something. I don't even know what that stuff is. Lots of dead air.

Bob: Do you ever go to the symphony?

John: Uh…

Bob: All the people that go are like that. Think about it.

John: I guess it's their riff. I'm sure that those people could turn into Booger in the Morning if they had to.

Bob: A piece will end and there's like 4 seconds and then thunderous applause you know? It's like a grace period that you have to go through. I don't know.

John: You just never know when they're gonna start playing again.

Bob: That's it. My theory is that most of the people who go don't know the songs, don't know the music, and wait for the person next to them to clap.

Robby: I always thought it was so people could record shows 'cause when I was a kid I would record songs on my little AM radio with my little tape player – I'd set it next to the AM radio and record Deep Purple songs, you know, and –

John: Who's Deep Purple?

Robby: It's this band. You might have heard of them. Robert Plant and that other guy.

John: All that hippie crap.

Robby: I remember calling the DJ going "Would you mind – could you play this record for me and I'd really appreciate it if you didn't talk over the top because I'm trying to record it."

John: Rob Takac, precursor to Napster.

Robby: Oh boy.

John: What's up with the Napster?

Robby: I dunno. It's weird.

John: That guy – you know, if that guy starts stealing money from the wrong band, he's gonna wind up getting an ass whooping.

Robby: Just to educate the people listening –

John: He must be living in a bunker, man, 'cause everybody I know wants to kill that guy.

Bob: Let's take a step back for those who may not know.

John: Ok.

Robby: Napster is a digital download service that's on the web.

John: Basically what happens is people can steal your music for free.

Robby: Yeah, pretty much.

John: So go on there, kids, and steal it all. I'm not telling anybody to steal music but everybody is.

Robby: I heard something really bizarre happened. Metallica had a lawsuit with them –

Bob: Yeah, Metallica has taken them to task.

John: Good. They should.

Robby: I heard that they went in and crashed their site and did all sorts of –

John: Who crashed whose site?

Robby: Someone crashed Metallica's site.

John: Allegedly.

Robby: No, someone did in the name of Napster. They claim that they didn't actually do it.

John: It's all just bunk man. In the end result though – you know, it's cool because kids are getting music for free and music is an expensive thing, but in the end result it's like you're screwing the bands over, you know, and that's wrong because the bands are already getting screwed.

Robby: Yeah, it's coming from both ends now.

John: What are you gonna do?

Bob: Well I know Metallica's taking them on, Dr Dre's taking them on, and but you've got Limp Bizkit that's probably gonna go on tour for a large sum of money with them sponsoring the our.

John: You know…

Robby: Well ,you know….

Bob: Back to that dead air thing. And now ladies and gentlemen –

John: (really slow and quiet again) That was John Rzeznik –

Bob: "Eyes Wide Open"

John: (really slow and quiet) "Eyes Wide Open"

Bob: By the Goo Goo Dolls

John: (really slow and quiet) on Rockline.

**Eyes Wide Open plays**

Bob: "Eyes Wide Open", Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline. We have Johnny and Robby from the band with us. I'm Bob Coburn. We're gonna take a call fromJonesboro, Arkansas and her name is Jaysa. I like that name.

John: Jaysa. Very cool.

Bob: I like that name. Isn't that nice?

Caller13: Hi.

John: Hi Jaysa. What are you doing? What's doing on in Jonesboro tonight?

Caller13: Nothing.

John: Nothing?

Caller13: No.

John: Surely something must be going on.

Caller13: Well I was working on a lyme disease presentation earlier and that's about it.

Robby: A lyme disease presentation?

John: You know, that's a very serious thing though. You gotta understand something. Now if a tick, if a certain kind of tick – Jaysa tell us which type of tick is most likely to give you lyme disease?

Robby: Let me guess. Let me guess.

John: Is it a blue tick?

Robby: No, it's a deer tick I bet you.

John: Is it a deer tick?

Caller13: On the East Coast it's the deer tick.

John: Have you ever seen a tick magnified up close?

Caller13: Yes I have.

John: It's on eof the scariest-looking things I've ever seen in my life, don't you agree?

Caller13: Yeah.

John: That image haunted my brain for days after that.

Robby: Yeah, but anything up close is kinda gross.

Caller13: Yeah.

Robby: If I just, you know, put my face right up to you it's kinda gross.

John: Forget it, forget it. What I'm talking about here is the tick and the lyme disease. Now you really have to be careful, especially with your pets when you take them out into the woods. Is this right Jaysa?

Caller13: That's correct.

Bob: Now you ask where they're from and all that and I think they're different for East Coast and West Coast, is that right?

Caller13: Yeah, the other species on the West Coast is the black-legged tick.

John: That's a bloodthirsty bastard!

Robby: Yes, those are ticks.

John: Those black-legged ticks are bloodthirsty bastards!

Robby: Yeah they are! I'm telling you –

Bob: There's too many cheap one-liners wrapped up in here. We've talked about the invention of radio and ticks so far tonight with the Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline.

John: Wait a second, lets talk about the tick. What do you do when you get one on you Jaysa? Just as a public service announcement. Do you burn it off with a cigarette?

Robby: That's what I did. I had one on my head once.

Caller13: You do not burn it off with a cigarette.

John: You do not burn it off with a cigarette?

Caller13: You do not because if you do, they're more likely to transmit the disease than if you just pull it out.

Robby: Oh that's great.

John: Oh great.

Bob: Aren't you supposed to turn it counter-clockwise?

Caller13: You take sterile tweezers and you take the head and you pull it out.

Robby: Gross!

Bob: This is full-service radio here people.

Robby: And you were saying there's nothing going on in Jonesboro.

John: There's a lot going on in Jonesboro. We have an expert on the tick!

Robby: Absolutely.

John: Do you like the cartoon "The Tick"?

Caller13: I do actually.

John: It's one of my favorites. I love it! Why are you doing a report on lyme disease? Are you a veterinarian or something?

Caller13: No, I'm a graduate student. It's for a class.

John: Really?

Robby: Really?

John: And what are you a grad student in?

Caller13: Biology.

John: Really?

Bob: What a surprise that is.

John: Are you gonna be a doctor?

Caller13: No, I probably want to teach.

John: Really?

Robby: She's studying to be a tick.

John: What do you want to teach?

Caller13: Hopefully in a nature center.

John: Biology?

Caller13: Yeah, probably biology.

John: Nature Science?

Caller13: Wildlife management, that sort of thing.

John: Wildlife management. Cool.

Caller13: I still have a question though.

Robby: Oh yeah, that's right. I'm sorry.

John: Oh yeah. I'm sorry.

Bob: Welcome to the Art Bell show ladies and gentlemen.

John: Do you believe in aliens? Right now I'm in a heavily fortified bunker in New Mexico and I'm asking everyone in America to please bring me water. We're running out of water.

Bob: Jaysa, what's your question?

Caller13: I heard that you were gonna release a live CD and a concert video this summer and I was wondering if there was any truth to that.

John: No.

Robby: We heard that too but no, we're not actually.

John: If you find a copy let me know.

Robby: Absolutely.

John: I don't know. Do you think it's too soon for that kind of thing? I don't know. I think it's too song for that kind of business.

Robby: Yeah.

John: Maybe a couple records down the road, you know?

Robby: Bands don't usually start releasing "greatest hits" and live records until they start having trouble with their label. And we're fine right now.

John: Right now there's a big love-fest at Warner Bros.

Robby: Ooo baby.

Bob: And why bother when it's on Napster anyway?

John: (strange voice) Why must you be so cruel?

Bob: Jaysa thank you very much.

John: Tick expert Jaysa.

Bob: We have Diane on the line, she's in Great Neck, New York listening on the internet. Hi Diane.

Caller14: Hi Johnny. Hi Robby.

John: Hi.

Robby: Hi.

Caller14: I just wanted to ask you guys if your appearance on Sesame Street was your idea or your management.

John: Robby concocted that scheme.

Robby: I saw Stevie Wonder on there when I was a kid and I thought it was pretty cool and I talked to our publicists and they were really excited about it.

John: It's really cool.

Robby: I can't believe more people don't ask.

John: I know. It's really fun and it's an amazing operation.

Robby: It's crazy.

Bob: They've had some great people on there over the years, they really have. It's been on for so long.

John: It's awesome.

Robby: Yeah, we were counted by The Count too, Bob.

Bob: You were counted by the count?

Robby: He came in and counted us. It was amazing.

Bob: That's the big time.

Robby: Guess how many of us there were? Three. There were three of us.

Bob: Today's number is three.

Robby: (very good imitation of The Count laughing)

Bob: Back with the Goo Goo Dolls on Rockline in just a moment.

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Bob: Welcome back to Rockline. I'm Bob Coburn with Robby and Johnny from the Goo Goo Dolls.

John: Are you related to Bruce?

Bob: No, no. He even spells his name differently. Mine's C-O-B-U-R-N and his is C-O-C-K-B-U-R-N which is some Canadian weirdness or something.

John: Say it.

Bob: We'll its "Coburn" but it sure looks like something else, doesn't it? But that's a different show. I believe that's Loveline.

Robby: You don't want to make fun of him. That guy's bucking for a rocket launcher.

Bob: If only I had a rocket launcher, yes indeed.

John: (muffled) Hello, Dr. Drew? My name is Coburn but everybody calls me –

Bob: Let's get the shout-outs out of the way here. **credits** We only have seconds left but somebody either say "yes that is true" or "it's just an ugly rumor" that you're thinking about doing the next album with horns.

John: (muffled) Hello, Dr. Drew? Is this Loveline? I have a problem. Yeah, my name is Jason. I'm 17 from Anaheim –

Bob: Horns or not?! You're not leaving without answering that.

John: I don't know. Who knows?

Robby: Who knows, man?

John: If the horns sound good and everything's groovy then sure.

Robby: We've got a really good joke for you about horns.

Bob: Be quick.

John: Oh no. Oh no no no no no. You can't tell that. We'll tell you when we're off the air. You can't tell that on the air.

Bob: Oh the Rockline listeners are gonna love that.

Rob: We'll give you the joke. What's the difference between a moose and a ska band?

Bob: I don't know.

John: The moose has the horns in front and the a…….hole in the back.

Bob: Thank you very much Robby. Thank you Johnny. Goo Goo Dolls rule. Thank you guys for being on.

John: Thank you America!

Robby: Yes!

Bob: Goodnight America.

**The End**