this is work in progress or homilies or miscellaneous items

that don't warrant a page by themselves

or seem to fit better here

pending poems  index

chronological order is from the bottom to the top of the page

audio files can be complemented by listening to them  with the eyes closed   !

ewk you obviously don't have any research background, as a consequence you don't go to the right/necessary level of detail . .

it's gruelling and cruel, but that /it is what is required to make the investigation of what zen is about work for you !

ewk you obviously don't have any research background, as a consequence you don't go to the right/necessary level of detail . .

it's gruelling and cruel, but it/that is what is required to make the investigation of what zen is about work for you !

the book was published in 2006 ,   but the quote is from a  2003  ‘ japanese journal of religious studies ’    article  and doesn't have the inserted passage of the book and as consequence reads quite a bit better imo !

[ . . . ]  the mt. ta-mei patriarch handed dõgen a branch of plum blossoms because he had a dream in which a master he supposed to be the disciple of ma-tsu, who founded the monastery, told him to give a plum tree twig to an authentic seeker who would come by boat to study in china

that night, dõgen reports, he also had a mystical dream in which   the original mount ta - mei patriarch handed him a branch of blooming blossoms that were more than a foot in diameter as reflected in the patriarch’s mirror ,   which is “ the most reliable of instruments ” ,   and dõgen takes this to be the flowers of the udambara

the third dream occurred, dõgen learned, when the night before his arrival back to mount t’ien-t’ung, where ju-ching had been installed as abbot for just about a month in the fourth month of  1225 ,   the chinese master dreamt that tung-shan appeared in the form of a reincarnation

another episode with supernatural implications is dõgen’s account in the shobogenzo  “ busshõ ”  fascicle of a vision of the round full moon at mount a-yü-wang temple while looking at portraits of the thirty-three patriarchs

this section of the fascicle follows a lengthy philosophical discussion of an anecdote in the   ‘ ching-te ch’uan-teng lu ’  vol.  1 ,   in which nagarjuna is manifested as the moon

dõgen says that “ in former days, while traveling as a cloud ” ,    he went to mt. a-yü-wang in the first year of his journey to china but when he saw the paintings he did not understand the meaning

then he returned to this site about two years later, during the summer retreat of  1225 ,    apparently a short time after his enlightenment experience under ju-ching

this time he alone among the monks understood the vision, whereas the others either took it too literally or did not see it at all

dõgen sensed the deficiency of the others, for whom there are “no nostrils in their complexion” and “no sword in their laughter”

this episode marks the moment in the traditional account of when dõgen becomes clear and confident of his spiritual authority and superiority

twistpixel  recounts

I was visiting idaho falls, and someone nearby says ,   ‘ whoa, this is so great, ’  and a few minutes later says ,   ‘ they're everywhere! ’  the water level was low, the rocks mostly dry and colorless and there just wasn't anything at all to get excited about.

thinking maybe something was hiding in the shadows, I took off my sunglasses. which were polarized and had destroyed the dozens of rainbows that were happening in the mist, that even helped make the mist visible

once you see infinity  (ed.   ‘mind’  in the book) ,   why pay attention to doctrines ?

a bodhidharma quote

once you see infinity ,   why pay attention to doctrines ?

a bodhidharma  quote

once you see infinity, why pay attention to doctrines ?

a bodhidharma quote

once you see infinity, why pay attention to doctrines

my

if you say  ‘ hinder ’  the dull sun finds the weary t r a v e l l e r  !  :o)(

sight and blind

blind ! :o(

one of napoleon's maxims is  “ when your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him ! ”

when is a higgs boson not a higgs boson ?

instead, it consists of so-called techni-quarks, which we believe are elementary

“ love is not everything in this   life  ”

“ without love life is boring ”

35 : 40

greenrushwars  asks/ states

my

dogen had a vision of the full moon when viewing the portraits of the  33  patriarchs at the mount a-yü-wang monastery !

w h y ?

greenrushwars  replies

I like to imagine you in a costume similar to the riddler's with a feather in your cap

who can say why ?  perhaps the wisdom from the patriarchs was complete but only a reflection of the sun-sized realisation.  perhaps not

my

perhaps there was really something that distinguished them and you are not being honest about your lack of understanding of what that is ! :o)(

greenrushwars  replies

I think this is possible

my

my personal experience is it is an endless process which is very different from my first days in zen when I thought, like most do that there's just this plateau you arrive at and that's it . .

there is actually a plateau like that, you just arrive

but from a practical view there is an endless sorting out . .

so there's just this process of getting some contemplative solitude and sorting out and improving understanding so really from the point of view of  “ the way ”  there's just this process and actually your asking about it and being open minded enough to ask is this exact process ! :o)

dogen had a vision of the full moon when viewing the portraits of the  33  patriarchs at the mount a-yü-wang monastery !

w h y ?

the mower was going outside and i was thinking  “ there's too much noise/sound to think ! ”

and then i thought

that's literally so, it's hard to think because of the noise/sound !

: o)(

the mower was going outside and i was thinking  “ it's too noisy to think ! ”

and then i thought

that's literally so, it's hard to think because of the noise/sound !

: o)(

the mower was going outside and i was thinking  “ it's too noisy to think ! ”

and then i thought

that's literally so, it's hard to think because of the noise/sound !

: o)(

the mower was going outside and i was thinking  “ it's too noisy to think ! ”

and then i thought

that's literally so, it's hard to think because of the noise/sound !

from reddit relationship_advice

I'm pretty sure that a lady that I work with is being catfished.  we aren't close at all but she's one of those   oversharers   and I have heard this guy's story.  he is from the uk and is working in south africa doing road construction, has stake in the company, and is there on a contract until the end of the month.  the guy is very good looking and the coworker...isn't.  I know for a fact that they haven't chatted via webcam.  I want to bring this up to her and offer to do some research for her to make sure that the guy is legit but I'm not sure how to go about it

....  (different poster)  this is a shockingly common problem with a lot of my female friends in singapore.  they are  ALWAYS  being conned by nigerians

...  (Op again)  well I sent her a message on facebook and she's definitely being catfished. I offered to do an image search for her and he's using pictures of a model based in the  UK

“ is zen an atheistic religion ?  thanks ”

zen is a restaurant or hair salon ! don't get high falutin ! :o)

you can't beat them, you don't want to join them, how do you cope ?

let them work for you ! :o)(

to avoid carpel tunnel in the hand when using a mouse it helps to alternate the hands, ambidextrous really !

also if standing for a while move the legs and rotate the ankles and foot in a circular movement occasionally to move the blood and lymph !

he's 83 and has for the last 20 years had daily full body sun   exposure ,   i think it has kept the cardiovascular wolf from the door ! :o)

of course that is sydney ! :o )

loved the poem, it has a euphonic   cadence   that comes through if your read it aloud to yourself !

dontgetborn   writes

the myth of power

the hall of echoes, our gonzo ontology: burning fire with fire

deep into winter, something wakes and readjusts; you show your hand again

alone together, slaves to the cause of freedom. It's not what it seems

singlefinger  replies

a mote of perception, our shared history: bundled twigs as rafters

summer peals eternal, soft across my brow and back; my hand dips to the water

monadic dichotomy, freedom to take up chains. It is what it is

my

“ gonzo ontology ”

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dontgetborn   writes

the myth of power

the hall of echoes, our gonzo ontology: burning fire with fire

deep into winter, something wakes and readjusts; you show your hand again

alone together, slaves to the cause of freedom. It's not what it seems

singlefinger  replies

a mote of perception, our shared history: bundled twigs as rafters

summer peals eternal, soft across my brow and back; my hand dips to the water

monadic dichotomy, freedom to take up chains. It is what it is

my

“ gonzo ontology ”

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dontgetborn   writes

the myth of power

the hall of echoes, our gonzo ontology: burning fire with fire

deep into winter, something wakes and readjusts; you show your hand again

alone together, slaves to the cause of freedom. It's not what it seems

singlefinger  replies

a mote of perception, our shared history: bundled twigs as rafters

summer peals eternal, soft across my brow and back; my hand dips to the water

monadic dichotomy, freedom to take up chains. It is what it is

my

“ gonzo ontology ”

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singlefinger, sock it to him !

or

did you

both

get

socked

by

sunrise shows a clapped out temple and no-ones up yet except me

just liquid in the porridge

looking out the window with its cracked walls

alone and friendless except for the chattering sparrows

now and then windblown leaves scurry by

many miles from my home and family

time sends me t e a r s

christmind  asks

why can't you go home ?

my

yeah an interesting question, some monks left home and some didn't, there's an interesting exchange in the record of joshu were he went to visit shuyu and shuyu told/asked him  “ you are so old why haven't you found some place to stay ”  (section 461)

whereas  the elderly monk who encountered eihei dogen on the ship at  ching-yüan  (now ning-po)  when looking to buy shiitake   mushrooms  from japan, later visited dogen at the mt. tiantong monastery on his way back to his home village to retire !

in joshu's case his parents would have been long dead and an aged relative needing care would not be welcome !

I really recommend reading the whole   song of the twelve hours  ,   one of the most wonderful and lyric writings in zen, you really get a feel for living like joshu, a true home leaving monk living in what was probably an abandoned temple in a small village in 9th century china !

sunrise shows a clapped out temple and no-ones up yet except me

just liquid in the porridge

looking out the window with its cracked walls

alone and friendless except for the chattering sparrows

now and then windblown leaves scurry by

many miles from my home and family

time sends me t e a r s

what's the diet like for these   children  at the emergency housing unit and when they are at home or whatever ?

does it feed a   growing  brain ?

if they are busy fighting each other they are not fighting you

claire greenwood/gesshin   writes

aoyama roshi uses a useful metaphor to talk about the relationship between practice and study.  in buddhist practice, imagine we are trying to play the piano.  the historical buddha and the various buddhist masters are like great composers.  they created beautiful symphonies and wrote those melodies down as sheet music.  the buddhist teachings  ‑  sutras, commentary, history, writings  ‑  are like sheet music.
the sheet music tells us how and what to play

my  comment

the point is to be the great composer yourself, recitation is proxying and not what zen is about, what you are doing/your approach  is a religion  ! : 0 ()

“ O, my, I am remembering so vividly one of the times when your parents were away and I was caregiver. . .  you and I were headed down the steps and   you  asked me  “ katy, who is the smartest person you know ? ”   “ Which kind of smart ? ”  I asked

you looked at me as if I had spoken swahili and said  “ what do you mean  ‘ which kind ’ ”  ?

I said that there are so many kinds of smart that I'd seen people when I travelled that had never been to school but who could cut a piece of bamboo and create a water system down from a mountain with just a machete for a tool and fix anything with some wire and old bits of things

I said that your mom and dad were another kind of smart and I think of them as some of the smartest people I know and then there's me who isn't academically particularly smart but really smart about making connections between things and smart about feelings and intuition

I told you about some folks in caz who were amazing at problem solving the challenges of living on the land and working with animals

you listened so intently . . . your tender young self ”

“ do some sort of strenuous exercise first. I usually run, and then meditate ”

there is always cardiovascular damage with vigorous exercise, I think to move straight from that to the circulating restricting positions of seated meditation is dangerous !

meditating in a seated posture when first getting up in the morning is also dangerous from a cardiovascular point of view imo, tho I often lie in bed for a while just ruminating !

it becomes much more of an issue the older we get !

joints are another problem area !

meditation is best approached as  ‘ instructionless ’  or if you feel you must do something then  ‘ shikantaza ’

problems/developmental   abnormalites    with myelin make the nerve cells more sensitive to muscle and blood changes !

“ damage to the myelin sheath may make the nerves more prone to irritation by the dynamic structure surrounding them, such as muscle and blood vessels, potentially triggering migraine attacks ”

normality is like a container that i can't see out of  !

v6

normality is like a container that i can't see out of

v5

normality is a container that we can't see out of  !

v4

normality is a container that we can't see out of

v3

normality is like a container that we can't see out of  !

v2

normality is like a container that we can't see out of

v1

“ last night I  (ed.  male 22,  australia   ‘ currently under a lot of stress  ‑  writing a thesis ’  )  lost consciousness, but it was very different to normal fainting

I got a nosebleed and went to the bathroom to deal with it. I'm not great with blood but usually I just go a little pale and recover within a few minutes (vasovagal).  I felt a little dizzy so I went to get a glass of water and something weird happened

It was a very different sensation to fainting.  instead of my vision going black and getting extremely lightheaded, my vision was in extremely low frames per second and sounds became a metallic ringing.  I could not balance and my thoughts were strange almost like I was on mushrooms.  the vision and sounds were similar to when I have had laughing gas.  this happened in about 1 second and got to the point where I lost consciousness.

I came to stumbling severely a few metres from where I was previously.  for about 5 seconds the symptoms continued, with me unable to regain my balance.  after getting my balance, my thoughts, vision and hearing returned to normal within a few seconds

I have tried a few things  (marajuana, mushrooms, laughing gas)  but never more than twice and not in the last year.  I do not believe this has any relevance to what happened other than some of the symptoms were similar to some drug effects . this leads me to think something weird may be going on in my brain

does this sound like a seizure ?

an alternative hypothesis is my heart. I had consumed about 200mg of caffeine that day  (compared to occasionally having 1 coffee).  I'm not sure if it was me being a hypochondriac but my heart beat seemed irregular after the event.  could a temporary lack of blood to my brain have caused this ?

within a few minutes of recovering there were no effects ”

my

when i first read this it looked like migraine to me, but didn't fit and i was interested later to read in this   study   that electrical spikes, seizures and spreading depression  ( migraine )  were all part of a spectrum of nerve cell behavior

“ there is a very sensitive link between oxygen concentration with reliable and rapid changes in nerve cell behavior ”

irregular heartbeat and nosebleeds are associated with epileptic seizures !

take these broken wings   is well worth looking the whole way through and having a bit of a think ! :o)

the filmmaker daniel mackler has a number of good   videos  !

joanne greenberg who is interviewed in the film is the author of  “ i never   promised   you a rose garden ”

“  [...]   many times, people refer to osho, or nisargadatta, or similar people who have talked about existence as is, which corresponds to zen in many ways   [..]  ”

ewk   replies

that's perennialism, not zen

my

how can it be in all of human history with its great mystics like Sappho, Heraclitus, sa'di, rabia basri, sabistari, john of the cross, Emily Dickinson, wang wei, li po, jane austen, cao xueqin, Katherine mansfield, Charles dodgson and janet frame that zen is unique ?

you are a very narrow view, sorta quite uneducated really, it has dawned on me that even for being such a pusher of psychiatry as you are, you still don't have any clues about it !

there's no excuse for being an ignorant hick with the wealth of research material available, but as you spend your time in games and futile pointless posting what can be said ! ?

you have made your choice and priorities, choking on    dust   is it ! :o)

“  [...]   many times, people refer to osho, or nisargadatta, or similar people who have talked about existence as is, which corresponds to zen in many ways   [..]  ”

the zen/ch'an view is solipsistic, that is each individual is all that is . .

you are weighing with consensus social opinion which is not zen actually . .

rather than look into this question of visions and their role in zen/ch'an you just try to twist it as not conforming to the brutal psychiatric view of life

that is what's twisted and would your shell break with you once you start to open this up?

however zen has equivalents in quality christian and sufi/Islamic mysticism ! :o)

ewk  replies 

  no  !

people who have   visions   are either phony psychics or people who should consider talking to mental health professionals

my

poor old salvador dali and john of the cross, they should have been    seeing    “ mental health professionals ”  instead of pursuing god/christ and painting  !

ewk  replies

my

you are actually unreal about psychiatry, most are much more open minded than you and your terminal closure !

you cling to  “ mental health professionals ”  like they can save you from the dryness and stupidity of your life is like the way you to cling to zen, some unreal construct that enables you to waste your time with computer games without any twinges or regrets, after all the   buji ethos  is  “ nothing to do ! ”  :o)

ewk   writes

people who have  “ visions ”  are either phony psychics or people who should consider talking to mental health professionals

my

like game playing is  i n f i n i t y  y o u  w a n k e r! ?

amber   writes

do you see me as a fire or a flower ?

I want to burn the cities inside of other people

I want to kiss the parts of them that need to heal

my

the red of a rose congeals rather than ignites

but the flame of an hibiscus throws the cities to ruin and kisses seem pale ! : o)

healing is an illusion and death stalks the suburbs ! :o)

amber   writes

I turned my soul into the sharpest weapon

but I can't talk about my love of knives at parties

my

i have honed myself

sharp as aknife

all who

come

near

meslice

themselves

“ she may not have been an intended victim. one of the killers, patricia krenwinkel, let it slip once that  ‘ she wasn't supposed to be there ’  the real targets were voytek frykowski, jay sebring and abigal folger and i believe the motive was  drugs  ”

you will never understand the world if you look at it from the viewpoint of  normal  !

: o ) (

you will never understand the world if you look at it from the viewpoint of  normal  !

you will never understand the world if you look at it from the viewpoint of  normal

you will never understand the world if you look at it from the viewpoint of  “normal”

you will never understand the world if you look at it from the viewpoint of normal

paul hedderman's turning moment on the voyage out of alcohol and drugs !

12 : 20

ewk  replies

that's not enlightenment, that's   eureka

my

ewk  replies

anybody can have eureka experiences

if you like puzzles then they happen all the time

my

tell us about yours then ? no puzzle, no experience . .

the puzzle is  “ what is life ”  !

: o)(

ewk  replies

I encourage you to talk to a mental health professional about how your visions are   the beautiful bits   of life

my

just more of your coughing in the dust ! :o) 

has the flatscape of iowa infected you ?

paul hedderman's turning moment on the voyage out of alcohol and drugs !

12 : 20

what is the male attraction for breasts ?

it's your offspring's necessity for milk, that's all !

ewk, what do your   ramblings  have to do with zen ! :o)

what that   sit   has to do with zen is they breached a social boundary condition, very illuminating !

you just keep within boundaries, it's not zen at all ! :o()

ewk's  reply

I encourage you to talk about your religious experiences with a mental health professional

my

that's the 100th time you have posted that reply ! :o)(

you are stuck in a shell and whenever I tap on it that's the reply you use ! :o)

ewk's  reply

after you convinced me that you really believe that you have psychic visions about your own importance then we passed out of the realm of rational conversation and into the realm of mental health problems

I encourage you to discuss your religious experiences with a mental health professional

my

the zen/ch'an view is solipsistic, that is each individual is all that is . .

you are weighing with consensus social opinion which is not zen actually . .

rather than look into this question of visions and their role in zen/ch'an you just try to twist it as not conforming to the brutal psychiatric view of life

that is what's twisted and would your shell break with you once you start to open this up?

intelligence seems to translate sometimes into stupidity !

intelligence sometimes seems to translate into stupidity !

v2

intelligence seems to translate sometimes into stupidity

intelligence sometimes seems to translate into stupidity

v1

“  karen  richards offers a look into the nature of reality for just a measly 45 pounds !

my

there's an element of donation in that sum and she is imo the leading non dual teacher . . it's so hard to make a living in this g a m e !  . .

she also highlights the problem with zen, a million alan watts wankers now

zen is selectively pulling the  “buji”  schizophrenics and anybody even slightly real doesn't bother with it  n o w ! .  :  o ( )

I wouldn't be bothered except for the  6th  patriarch's transmission to me and the relatively recent discovery for myself, thanks in part to reddit zen and its habit of quoting the old records, that there is a genuine tradition mostly in the ch'an days !

this   explains  a lot about human behavior, a sort of brainless grasping with very little emphasis on    careful   use beyond sex  !  : o ()

“ ground-breakers/ing ”  is definitely a  50+  feeling ! :o)

it took me a while to get it, something is being said in quite a subtle way

a very good bit of   writing   and photos ! :o)

the world is about  .005%  sane and  99.995%  insane ! :o()

the world is about  .05%  sane and  99.95%  insane ! :o()

the world is about  1%  sane and  99%  insane ! :o()

:  o )

:  o )

:  o )

: o)

: o)

: o)

hello  mr.   broken   wings  !  : o)

a good interview,  the   working   musician /composer

beck hansen had a very artistically   influenced   early life  !

not fresh at all   !  : o ()

lynn    johnson ,  like charles bukowski was severely and continually beaten as a child, charles by his father and lynn by her mother ! : o()

lynn    johnson ,  like charles bukowski was severely and continually beaten as a child, by his father and her mother ! : o()

E. R. /emergency departments are only interested if you are going to die within the next week, otherwise you are just in the way of their  important  work  !  :o)

e.r /emergency departments are only interested if you are going to die within the next week, otherwise you are just in the way of their  important  work ! :o)

e.r /emergency departments are only interested if you are going to die within the next week, otherwise you are just in the way of their  “ important ”  work  !  :o)

ed.  she tapered off her meds over nine months, very sensible ! : o (. . ' . )  * )

daniel mackler   doesn't   have a high opinion of most psychotherapists ! :o)

“ two qualities that i see  .  .  good therapists have both a vulnerability and humility !

i like the definition of humility as teachable, they are open to learn ”

plenty of that sort of crap in the uk ! :o)

  dick

clit     [   I    II   ]

so which guru do you suck the dick or clit of  ?

c a l l i n g  f a k e s  i s  a n  o c c u p a t i o n !  : o  )

nisargadatta maharaj

n i s a r g a  f a r t a  b l a h a r a j

another masturbatory fuckwit like ramana fraudshi

nisargadatta maharaj

n i s a r g a f a r t a  b l a h a r a j

another masturbatory fuckwit like ramana fraudshi

nisargadatta maharaj

n i s a r g a  f a r t  t a  b l a h a r a j

nisargadatta maharaj

n i s a r g a f a r t t a  b l a h a r a j

“ is there a world outside your knowledge ”

I quite like these   worlds  “ outside my knowledge ”  ! :o)

mundelbulber

“ the plate fades as well as the table into the thin air ”

“ the plate fades as well as the table into the thin air ”

“ the plate fades as well as the table into the thin air ”

“ the plate fades as well as the table into the thin air ”

“ the plate fades as well as the table into thin air ”

“ the king and the pawn are put back in the same box at the end of the game ”

shingles pretty much runs in dermatomes, so if the pustules are in the same or contiguous dermatomes, that is pretty indicative !

there's fools, complete fools, not fools and old fools !

:o( .' . . )  .(

there's fools ,  complete fools ,  not fools  &  old fools  !

there's fools,  complete fools,  not fools  and  old  fools  !

there's fools, complete fools, not fools and old fools !

there's fools ,  complete fools ,  not fools  &  old fools

there's fools,  complete fools,  not fools  and  old fools

there's fools, complete fools, not fools and old fools

an alternative take   [  I  II  ]  on frozen

i think i prefer the original story

“ gerda finds kai alone and almost immobile on a frozen lake, which the snow queen calls the   mirror of reason  on which her throne sits

kai is engaged in the task that the snow queen gave him  :   he must use pieces of ice like a chinese puzzle to form characters and words

if he is able to form the word   eternity   (danish  :   evigheden)  the snow queen will release him from her power and give him a pair of skates  ”

“ sire clerk of oxenford ”  oure hooste   sayde

sir clerk of oxford, our host said

ye ryde as coy and stille as dooth a mayde

you ride as demure and quiet as does a maid

were newe spoused, sittynge at the bord

who is just married, sitting at the banquet table

this day ne herde I of youre tonge a word

this day I heard not one word from your tongue

I trowe ye studie aboute som sophyme

I suppose you are thinking of some sophistry

but salomon seith  ‘ every thyng hath tyme ’

but solomon says  ‘ everything has it's time ’ 

john foss on   psychosis   [  5 : 46  ]

“ this person is spaced out, he is now including you in his personal space ! ”

being an old soul is a very autistic trait ! :o)

being an old soul is a very autistic trait !

being an old soul is a very autistic trait

rubacavanights   writes

riddles have answers

you will find no solution

just old men talking

my

riddles have answers

you will find a solution

young men wanking, old men talking

it

all

comes

they

to

an

.

.

.

“ there is only one person that can reveal delusion and it is you ”

you   only seem to write pompous bullshit !

why ?

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“ I have a friend, yes a friend, and she seems to have a few major problems with sleeping, or just her daily schedule. she is only 16, but she is homeschooled as she's not from here  (from the  UK  now living in  USA )

from what I can tell she stays up until around 6 or 7 am before she goes to sleep

she often complains she doesn't feel well. I've told her to go to a doctor but her parents won't take her because she doesn't have medical insurance. we've tried to slowly change her schedule back to normal but it always reverts back. what could it be ? ”

do you understand how the circadian rhythm works and is set by light ?

the brain perceives red light as dark for the circadian rhythm, so if you use that after normal   “ lights out ”  then you don't disrupt the circadian rhythm !

she will need to go onto an hour of no computer or phone screen and having low yellowish or red light about an hour before 9 or ten

then on red light at ten, this is like sunset and then dark

the time of going to sleep and how long one sleeps for are two separate problems

but basically if you don't get the light right you are always going to be jet lagged and it will take a week or more to get the circadian rhythm back to  “ normal ”

“ do you   get  it ? ”

yes i get that you are a screwed up fake and that your posts are tapped out by a million maggots scrunching on your brain !

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

is

something

and

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

is

something

and

nothing

! : o)(

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

is

something

and

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

is

something

and

nothing

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

are

something

and

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

are

something

and

nothing

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

are

something

and

sepehr g. says

I recently had a dream where I talked to zoroastra

he told me ,   “ time is the primal matter ”

my

words and wordlessness are the primal matter

and

then

what

are

something

and

nothing

what i found fascinating about scientology is the the way david miscavige targeted and destroyed the will to succeed within the church of the two people most able to run the church successfully ,   jefferson   hawkins   and karen de la carriere    [   I II   ]  !

of interest in the  BBC  radio interview of karen de la carriere is that she had the awful pain of being cut off from contact with her son, and him dying through negligent action by the church, when if she had been allowed contact she would have got him to a doctor and the antibiotics he obviously needed for his puemonia ,  yet she helped build scientology for 35 years

in the second video she talks about how church is obsessively focused on money and the ethics divison of scientology uses anything self incriminating from confessional sessions against its own members !

a regular little stalin david miscavige was/is ! :o)

songhill  quotes  me and  states

sort of like saying you are a millionaire having only one dollar to your name but having the faith that, within your lifetime, you will earn the rest of it

my

there's some constancy behind the changing view and you have to let go and trust that

that's where people have difficulty they can't let go and stick to their inept constructs ! :o)

l e t  .  i n f i n i t y  .  i n f u s e  .  t h e  .  c o n s t r u c t s  !  : o )

i feel like i am looking at the end of   monasticism   just like the angry gay pope is looking at the    end of scientology  !

there have been huge social changes and the monastic form is dying !

actually poor internet access is one of the problems now with monasteries, they are competing with people like me who can put days in on the internet researching . . .

i have no difficulty in making them look i g n o r a n t !  . .  : o ) (

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just below is my reply to gesshin who doesn't pass and perhaps doesn't read my comments, oddly i far prefer people react to me like this, less dealing with people burden and really what i write is just for my own processing anyway !

the fatigue is worrying, you could try a few drops of iodine tincture on the wrist or foot, or a little bit of betadine antiseptic applied to the skin, you may find them in a medical kit

the   iodine  is slowly absorbed through the skin and helps pep up the thyroid a bit, apply it in the morning !

the way you are writing it's only a question of time before you disrobe, you are going to need your parents help to leave !

dogen had Tb, they don't mention this of course, but the monastic environment is terrible for health . . living in close quarters with not necessarily well people and a crude diet untailored to the individuals needs  . .

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one word  ‘ putdowns ’  are one word laziness  !

one word  ‘putdowns’  are one word laziness !

one word   putdowns  are one word laziness !

one word  putdowns  are one word laziness !

one word putdowns are one word laziness !

one word putdowns are one word laziness

my writings are 1,000,000 miles of koans

my writings are 1,000,000 miles of koans

ewk  tells  me

i encourage you to talk about the enlightenment you think you have gotten with a mental health professional

my

a    honey   for   you   ewk  !  : o)

ewk has very normative suburban values and is anti-literary and anti-artistic which is not the real zen at all which is quite literary and artistic !

he gets conflicted by things outside  “suburban normal”  scriptural christianity is his  normal  and the way he handles zen is to create an  “inerrant scripture”  and preach from that, so it's still his normal, my being the 7th patriarch unseats all his suburban tea swilling trash . .

it was only many years after being enlightened that the mumonkan started to make sense to me, one of the big issues is it is somewhat voynichated since translations only ever get about  10% ,  the book itself is not written by mumon/wumen, but is a compiliation made possibly after his death  (mumon himself was writing illiterate like most ch'an teachers)  of the recordings of others so that can introduce a lot of difficult to see past distortions

zen/ch'an is so obscure and rooted in a very alien medieval culture that it's difficult to make progress in if you just stick to it's  “ records ” ,   a lot of what is said is much more plainly understandable in poetry and literature . .

singlefinger  asks

[...]  ... my question to you is this :

how is the biochemical aspect of picking up a book different than taking  LSD ?

all of perception is biochemical

I think heavy use of these things is problematic, but I also don't see the distinction that prevents hallucinogenics as being a useful for exploring paradigm-shifting

my

one of the ways I look at doing the work of what zen is about is that we live short lives and need to take short cuts because we don't have the ten thousand years it would take to work things out for ourselves !

when you pick up   these  sorts of books you are doing that sort of short cut  .  .

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they can all be pretty different like my interest comes from reading the  18th century chinese classic ,   the   story  of the stone   (also known as the dream of red mansions !)

that I feel is an authentic road  .  .  it's going back to a genuine ch'an tradition  .  .

the problem with drugs is the road is not authentic, it's a perception/cognitive randomizing paradigm, strictly biochemical and without semantic heft !

people just come from very conventional normal attitudes that then are modified to accommodate perceptual and cognitive distortion and it's just stupid lunacy and doesn't even scrape the surface of what zen is about !

you  (ed.  rubacavanights)  and bluenpink are good   evidence  ,   both away with the fairies  .  .  .

being  100%  wrong is no recommendation   .  .

unless you come on the right road, you just don't get there, in fact your difficult childhood is much more the right road, but you seem to be offended by the injury of it which is not quite the right response, or one that gives the necessary insight  .  .

alan watts and yuanwu are not right roads either !  .  .  .

reddit zen is no different from real life zen, a very large number of people on different roads, the vast majority of which are dead, meaningless ends and the more meaningless they are, the louder they object to anything true ! :o)

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the road starts and finishes in childhood, as adults we just recapture it ! :o)

the whole developmental process is way weirder than any drug ! :o)

a bodhidharma  quote

those who worship don’t know, and those who know don’t worship

by worshipping you come under the spell of devils

i don't think the monastic experience works out in modern life at all

if you been around the religious/spiritual scene a bit, everybody is into the fake  “ holy idiot claim ” ,  it's just part of the delusion

the  “ idiot ”  is a standard religious/zen rhetorical technique to lay a claim to the  “ holy fool paradigm ”  and throw people off the scent

rubacavanights   writes

you look down on people so much that everything goes over your head

my

people like you are so up themselves they can't see sense, like in fact I am   offering   to help  ‘healthspin’

do you see what I am saying ?

so you have just given an opinion

“ you look down on people so much that everything goes over your head ”

if you had some skill level you would deconstruct what I say !

posting on reddit is sorta socratic dialogue in a way, let reddit zen build your s k i l l s

“ socratic dialogue is the conversation that results from the socratic method, a discussion process during which a facilitator promotes independent, reflective, and critical thinking ”

zen is about personal enlightenment which buddhism can also be, but in addition whereas mahayana thinks that anyone can be s o  e n l i g h t e n e d ,  zen accounts only very few !

the  7th  patriarch  is   one  !  : o)

zen is about personal enlightenment which buddhism can also be, but in addition whereas mahyana thinks that anyone can be s o  e n l i g h t e n e d ,  zen accounts only very few !

bluenpink   writes

I did  acid  on my friend's porch

I had just gone through about an hour of feeling deep fear that I was dying and I had nothing left to grab onto

then I surrendered, and slowly an overwhelming joy filled me and I looked at the  self  I'd always carried with pity

I felt weightless and more free than I'd ever experienced

I figured that this is what those sitting eastern guys were talking about, and I began to let alan watts tickle my curiosity.... this was quite a few years ago

I'm still an idiot

my

lsd gives fake /ersatz enlightenment experiences which is why you are so full of bullshit  !  :o)

zazen is something you grow out within several years, if you don't then there is a problem  !  : o )

zazen is something you grow out within several years, if you don't then there is a problem  !  : o)

zazen is something you grow out within several years, if you don't then there is a problem  !  :o)

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you are so stupid and  hubric  I am not even going to try to explain your error to you !

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you are so stupid and hubric I am not even going to try to explain your error to you !

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you are so stupid and hubric I am not even going to try to explain your error to you !

I got knocked unconcious once ,  I wouldn't quite say it was like waking up the second after I got hit at all . .

ed.  my reply to some idiot in denial about   this

“ the zen/ch'an masters wrote stuff down ”

“ the zen/ch'an masters wrote stuff down ”

the process is called  euhemerization ,   Richard carrier    explains   how that happened with jesus ! :o) (

dethfiesta   replies

to be fair, this is extremely controversial among historians of jesus and far from proven

I would imagine the same is true of it being said of the buddha

my

hey I have seen the forged birth certificates ! :o)

the buddha and jesus had anal sex and got shit all over their dicks and that's always how it has been and always will be ! :o)

the earliest Buddhist archeological excavation is a tree shrine !

the process is called  euhemerization ,   Richard carrier    explains   how that happened with jesus ! :o) (

no.  98  of the record of tung shan

one time when the master was washing his bowls, he saw two birds contending over a frog

a monk who also saw this asked  :   why does it come to that ?

the master replied  :   it's only for your benefit, reverend

no.  94  of the record of tung shan

one day, when the monks had all gone out for general labor, the master made the rounds of the monk's quarters

seeing a monk who had not gone out for general labor, he asked ,   “ why haven't you gone out ? ”

“ because I am not well ”  replied the monk

“ have you ever gone out when you were in normal health ? ”  asked the master

“ one day yuan took   a hoe   into the teaching hall and crossed back and forth ”

could have been a passive-aggressive complaint about the amount of manual work he was having to do ! :o()

so I kinda have a double headache

problems  with mri's

migraine

in the cases the old   masters   took what was said and deconstructed it to create their replies/responses, they didn't just offer vacant opinions about what they disagreed with

the cesspools of time   deconstruct   garbage eventually, but until then it takes an active approach

f r o n t  u p  y o u  c o m p l e t e  f a k e

there is thought, you are never free from recollection and attachments, to be  ‘ undeceived ’  of deceptive falsehoods take the identity condition of recollection and attachments  !   .  .

christmind  quotes  me  and  asks

“ take the identity condition of recollection and attachments ”

my

you picked the right passage, so first off you do have a feel for what this is about, but it takes a lot of work to develop that !

to understand what was written you have to look at the contexts in the OP and my reply

my complaint was that the OP picked voynich and my reply has a number of different levels, it can transit between sense and voynich for a start . .

but the identity condition is the  “ escape clause ”  to the human problem . .

we are never free from  “ thought, recollection, and clinging ”

so for most people zen just becomes more  “ thought, recollection, and clinging ”

all I can say is there are “ self cancelling sums ” for the above problem and that's really what the lifetime's work is a b o u t !  : o ( )

there is thought, you are never free from recollection and attachments, to be  ‘ undeceived ’  of deceptive falsehoods take the identity condition of recollection and attachments !  . .

I don't know why people who post this  shit  are so r e t a r d e d , like bottom of the bucket IQ 30 retarded ! :o(

it's all the same mistake, you take voynich as bedrock certainty and then proceed to pollute your lives forever with this filthy excrement of deranged  ‘ creators of the voynich ’  !

the platform sutra was written 200 years after huineng/ the sixth patriarch's death and to what extent it represents what the sixth patriarch said is an open question, in part perhaps because there is a very original voice there that is sometimes seen and glimpsed, but for the majority it's just the most arrant puking projectile vomiting crap ! :o(

retards like  mountaincat  seek out the projectile vomit and think it means something while rejecting the original !

there is thought, you are never free from recollection and attachments, to be  ‘ undeceived ’  of deceptive falsehoods take the identity condition of recollection and attachments !  . .

grasping and rejecting disappear through this  ‘ self-grasping ’

there it is in black and white but what can you say to a trash can with an IQ of 30 ? :o(

dota2nub  replies

and in the middle a big, fat, bold cock, refusing to eat and starving to death

my  reply

hitler was the worst kind of madman, with vision  !  : o(

hitler was the worst kind of madman  with vision  ! : o(

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hitler was the worst kind of madman   ,  with vision  !

hitler was the worst kind of madman, with vision  !

hitler was the worst kind of madman  with vision  !

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hitler was the worst kind of madman, with vision

hitler was the worst kind of madman  with vision

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“ she has been to the mental hospital    twice   in the last two years ”

the blue cliff record, case 35

ma tsu asked  :   “ what is that ? ”

pai chang replied  :   “ wild ducks ”

ma tsu asked  :   “ where have they gone ? ”

pai chang replied  :   “ they've flown away ”

ma tsu then twisted pai chang's nose

chang cried out in pain

the great master said  :   “ when have they ever flown away ? ”

my

the blue cliff record, case 35

ma tsu asked  :   “ what is that ? ”

pai chang replied  :   “ wild ducks ”

ma tsu asked  :   “ where have they gone ? ”

pai chang replied  :   “ they've flown away ”

ma tsu then twisted pai chang's nose

chang cried out in pain

the great master said  :   “ when have they ever flown away ? ”

my

“ is ewk zen ? ”

“ is ewk zen ? ”

“ is ewk zen ? ”

kuki    gallmann

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it's not hagiography  it's real life isn't it  full of these butchering mistakes  ! ?

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it's not hagiography  it's real life isn't it  full of these butchering mistakes  ? !

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it's not hagiography  it's real life isn't it  full of these butchering mistakes

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it's not hagiography, it's real life, full of these butchering mistakes !